S14 -> 350z track edition brakes

[inertiaticism]

Originally Posted by OptionZero

and if you're a 4-lug owner that's too cheap to convert to 5-lug, you're probably not going to spend $2K on these calipers and MAX rotors

Not really, I just don't want to have to if I don't need to.
I'm building my s14 up as a track car and wheel selection isn't all that important to me, I'd rather save 5 lug money and put it towards something more productive.
I have a feeling I'm going to have to anyway, I just realized that it would be beneficial to have a brake upgrade that uses easily available, cheap parts store rotors if I'm going to be doing a lot of HPDEs with aggressive pads.

[300hp owen]

holy bejeezus never thought this upgrade would be so simple.
awesome write-up, you kick arse.
thank you!
my s14 wants more mods!

[jasonyang]

i was wondering if anyone knows the spec to the 14mm bolts needed to mount the 350z caliper to the s14 bracket...i want to find this out and get the correct bolts and nuts before having to take anything apart.

thanks

[FinalDrive]

no specs, but here is the nissan part #
08044-4501A
$3.68 each x 4

[BAY240]

+1 Great Write up!
so what was the final decision that was most cost effective on a 4 lug? z32's?

[OptionZero]

wilwoods w/ 4 lug rotors

[FinalDrive]

most cost effective...meaning cheapest?
good pads on oem calipers

[INeedNewTires]

How about the compatibility with the new G37 sport brakes and rotors? anyone know how close they may come? and with the 14" rotor wheel clearance would be even tougher. This setup is probably overkill on the 240 but just wondering if anyone is in the know

[OptionZero]

that shit is so new it's probably over $2k per caliper

so yeah its overkill pricewise and for what you're getting

18 inch wheel minimum, i have 3z calipers on 350z rotors and its already close, some 17s' won't even clear (diameter)

[5t341tH]

dude u dont need these...
just buy these

caliper covers: goes over ur stock calipers to look cool

[INeedNewTires]

Originally Posted by OptionZero

that shit is so new it's probably over $2k per caliper

so yeah its overkill pricewise and for what you're getting

18 inch wheel minimum, i have 3z calipers on 350z rotors and its already close, some 17s' won't even clear (diameter)

Not when you work at Infiniti.......... and Especially not when i just sold a dude who's all about getting some 6 pots for the car..... kinda gay but shit i'll take his old ones..... Any idea on compatability?

[OptionZero]

if they're so cheap, just buy 'em, try 'em, and you tell us

if they don't fit, figure out what it takes to make 'em fit

if u can't make 'em fit, then sell 'em

[INeedNewTires]

no no no, not cheap at all..... but your right i should just try and make something work. i'll try and get something together and then create a new writeup. i have 18's now but by the looks of how they fit on the coupe with the 19s i bet its gonna be close.

[racer98]

Originally Posted by INeedNewTires

How about the compatibility with the new G37 sport brakes and rotors? anyone know how close they may come? and with the 14" rotor wheel clearance would be even tougher. This setup is probably overkill on the 240 but just wondering if anyone is in the know

working on that one now, rears are a direct bolt on buy you have use that factory spec rotors fronts its a 14in disc.

[INeedNewTires]

Originally Posted by racer98

working on that one now, rears are a direct bolt on buy you have use that factory spec rotors fronts its a 14in disc.

are you doing full front and rear conversion? and what about ebrake? let me know if you need any parts from the manufacturer (infiniti) i can see what price i can get you, just give me a part number.

I decided to hold off on this project because of cost, and i already have Z32 front and rear, and would like to concentrate more on other things. Plus its more show than performance IMO because of weight and the Z32 are already killer brakes for an S14.......... Swee though keep us updated!

[racer98]

Originally Posted by INeedNewTires

are you doing full front and rear conversion? and what about ebrake? let me know if you need any parts from the manufacturer (infiniti) i can see what price i can get you, just give me a part number.

I decided to hold off on this project because of cost, and i already have Z32 front and rear, and would like to concentrate more on other things. Plus its more show than performance IMO because of weight and the Z32 are already killer brakes for an S14.......... Swee though keep us updated!

will post photos etc as I go !

[sijia10358]

wow! this is a very useful post!!! +1!!!!!!!!! btw...does the 350z track brakes fit onto a S13?? and also does the back caliper fit??

[garagelu]

Originally Posted by sijia10358

wow! this is a very useful post!!! +1!!!!!!!!! btw...does the 350z track brakes fit onto a S13?? and also does the back caliper fit??

well let see.....if 300zx brakes fit both s13 and s14 with no mods doesnt it make sense that if the 350z brembo fits the s14, it will fit the s13 also? Just think about it a little buddy.

And no the rear 350z brembo do not bolt on. Only factory brembo that is bolt on for s chassis is the r33 and r34 brembo or sti brembo.

[sijia10358]

Originally Posted by garagelu

well let see.....if 300zx brakes fit both s13 and s14 with no mods doesnt it make sense that if the 350z brembo fits the s14, it will fit the s13 also? Just think about it a little buddy.

And no the rear 350z brembo do not bolt on. Only factory brembo that is bolt on for s chassis is the r33 and r34 brembo or sti brembo.

so..your sayin that the STI rear brembos should fit onto a S13?

[racer98]

Originally Posted by sijia10358

so..your sayin that the STI rear brembos should fit onto a S13?

No, you will need to fabricate a mount for it


the Z33 350z brembo disc and caliper bolt on the front


the rear you wil need to use the z32 break set up to use the z33 brembo disc and caliper.

[racer98]

Originally Posted by garagelu

well let see.....if 300zx brakes fit both s13 and s14 with no mods doesnt it make sense that if the 350z brembo fits the s14, it will fit the s13 also? Just think about it a little buddy.

And no the rear 350z brembo do not bolt on. Only factory brembo that is bolt on for s chassis is the r33 and r34 brembo or sti brembo.

can you clear this up a bit ?


so you are saying what now ?

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by garagelu

well let see.....if 300zx brakes fit both s13 and s14 with no mods doesnt it make sense that if the 350z brembo fits the s14, it will fit the s13 also? Just think about it a little buddy.

This logic is not correct. You did not show that S13 and S14 are identical.

While smaller Z32 brakes may fit both S13 and S14, the S14 may have more provisions so that the larger Z33 brembos can fit. If the S13 doesn't have the same provisions, the Z33 brembos will not fit.

[silnismo]

Originally Posted by racer98

No, you will need to fabricate a mount for it


the Z33 350z brembo disc and caliper bolt on the front


the rear you wil need to use the z32 break set up to use the z33 brembo disc and caliper.

actually racer98, the STI rear brembos DO NOT need to be fabbed up at all.

the mounting bolts on the rear STI brembos line up to the stock mounting holes, but requires a washer or two to offset the brakes.

dont mean to reiterate the same crap, just don't want fasle info spread'in.

[JETBLACK89]

Originally Posted by 5t341tH

dude u dont need these...
just buy these

caliper covers: goes over ur stock calipers to look cool

Will these work with Infinity G35 brakes? If so where can I find them?

[gunluvS14]

Mmm, I think those are fake...
they look like urethane caliper cover, it was pretty big on ebay back in the day. It covers your caliper and make it looks like you have BBK.

[OptionZero]

Originally Posted by g6civcx

This logic is not correct. You did not show that S13 and S14 are identical.

While smaller Z32 brakes may fit both S13 and S14, the S14 may have more provisions so that the larger Z33 brembos can fit. If the S13 doesn't have the same provisions, the Z33 brembos will not fit.

i'm pretty sure 350z brake install is identical on either s13 or s14

enlarge the holes, bolt up

[garagelu]

Originally Posted by g6civcx

This logic is not correct. You did not show that S13 and S14 are identical.

While smaller Z32 brakes may fit both S13 and S14, the S14 may have more provisions so that the larger Z33 brembos can fit. If the S13 doesn't have the same provisions, the Z33 brembos will not fit.

How is my logic incorrect. Basically what I am saying is that if the z32 calipers bolt up to both the s13 and s14, then the 350z brembo will fit both chassis also. The hole distance and dimensions are all the same on both cars.

And why would s14 have more "provisions". Tell me what you have to do extra on a s14 that you wouldnt have to do on a s13 when doing a 300zx brake upgrade. Hmmmm.....nothing. The install process on both the s13 and s14 is exactly the same.

[roel03]

If you use evo rotors with sti rear brembos you need a washer to bolt right up.

If you use z32 rear rotors with sti rear brembos it bolts right up and the z32 ebrake assembly works perfectly.

[sijia10358]

Originally Posted by racer98

No, you will need to fabricate a mount for it


the Z33 350z brembo disc and caliper bolt on the front


the rear you wil need to use the z32 break set up to use the z33 brembo disc and caliper.

thanx for the info man!!

[OfourTHREEfive]

Great writeup.