Official old grumpy assholes of zilvia thread

[jedi03]

the locals here were cutting them up for scrap...one guy last I saw ~4 years ago had 5 shells in different positions of teardown...


I feel its definitely about being patient, learning and waiting till a good life balance comes along...I was broke with lots of time and motivation, currently some time, money and motivation...kids and wife definitely take away from car time but making lifestyle changes to allow all my interests as well as theirs has allowed me and my wife to have an understanding of making my cars fast and fun...not to the point where I could get a porshe or lambo or any real race car, but enough to daily a decently modded sti...and some mods to the minivan lol...will see how far she lets me go with that one!

[Initial Drift]

So your saying they part out a good shell then just scrap the shell?

I do agree that there needs to be a balance between your hobbies and everything else.

[spooled240]

Anyone interested in a stock salvage kouki for $25k?

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/...997138350.html

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by spooled240

Anyone interested in a stock salvage kouki for $25k?

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/...997138350.html

Sure that's not $2,500?

[duballstar37]

Originally Posted by spooled240

Anyone interested in a stock salvage kouki for $25k?

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/...997138350.html

We should see if the seller is willing to part it out.

[spooled240]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Sure that's not $2,500?

I don't think so. The words "extremely rare" were used..twice lol

[dorkidori_s13]

98 S14 kouki in stick (not converted) IS extremely rare. there were only a few hundred made in stick out of the 2000 odd S14s produced that year.

[Initial Drift]

Jesus..... that price. I can't even comprehend the pricing people do now. And its always some stupid ass high price with a "no low balling" or a "I know what I got" included on the post. Don't forget to include the "I see other stock 240's posted for higher prices" not accounting for the fact that many of those are at least painted 1 color and have body panels that line up pretty decently.

Plus people don't seem to think salvage affects pricing at all.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

98 S14 kouki in stick (not converted) IS extremely rare. there were only a few hundred made in stick out of the 2000 odd S14s produced that year.

Soo $4,500 then?

That is not a $25,000 car.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by Initial Drift

Jesus..... that price. I can't even comprehend the pricing people do now. And its always some stupid ass high price with a "no low balling" or a "I know what I got" included on the post. Don't forget to include the "I see other stock 240's posted for higher prices" not accounting for the fact that many of those are at least painted 1 color and have body panels that line up pretty decently.

Plus people don't seem to think salvage affects pricing at all.

Hey bro, just cause u broke ass low baller.

Lolzz

[dorkidori_s13]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Soo $4,500 then?

That is not a $25,000 car.

not saying its a $25,000 car... simply stating that 1998 S14s in stick ARE rare as there were only a few hundred of them made like that from the factory

Originally Posted by Corbic

Hey bro, just cause u broke ass low baller.

Lolzz

thats pretty much all i think anymore when i see someone bitch about price on anything 240sx related because they cant afford it, dont know how to budget and think everything should be ebay chinese made garbage pricing

[duballstar37]

I'm budgeting for a time machine to go back and collect pignose lips.

[dorkidori_s13]

Originally Posted by duballstar37

I'm budgeting for a time machine to go back and collect pignose lips.

wont need to in a year or so when i bring mine in urethane, though youll have to drill a few holes in your bumper for the nuts to go into to prevent any sort of sagging.

[spooled240]

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

98 S14 kouki in stick (not converted) IS extremely rare. there were only a few hundred made in stick out of the 2000 odd S14s produced that year.

True, but does anyone really care? lol The car is identical to a '97

[duballstar37]

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

wont need to in a year or so when i bring mine in urethane, though youll have to drill a few holes in your bumper for the nuts to go into to prevent any sort of sagging.

I've heard that urethane time machines are "ebay chinese made garbage".

[Initial Drift]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Hey bro, just cause u broke ass low baller.

Lolzz

Thanks Corbic..... Appreciate it. Not a broke ass boi. I am willing to spend good money on a good car.

Usually when I have dealt with the people who make it a point to add "no lowballers" they really mean "no other offers" or "firm". The "no lowballers" comes off much worse tho because it implies that they will entertain counter offers but they tend to think anything not at asking price is low balling on usually already over priced items.

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

not saying its a $25,000 car... simply stating that 1998 S14s in stick ARE rare as there were only a few hundred of them made like that from the factory

What would you say is somewhat fair for this car? From the pics I would say 8kish if it wasn't salvaged.

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

thats pretty much all i think anymore when i see someone bitch about price on anything 240sx related because they cant afford it, dont know how to budget and think everything should be ebay chinese made garbage pricing

I detest cheap ebay parts and knockoffs if genuine is available. I would pay good money for genuine/OEM kits or high quality ones like I have heard yours are. Paying a decent amount of money for a knockoff kit that doesn't fit right hurts me more than good prices hurt my wallet.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by Initial Drift

Thanks Corbic..... Appreciate it. Not a broke ass boi. I am willing to spend good money on a good car.

I thought the lollz contained the hint I was being sarcastic.

[Initial Drift]

Sometimes I don't know with written word when there is sarcasm.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

thats pretty much all i think anymore when i see someone bitch about price on anything 240sx related because they cant afford it, dont know how to budget and think everything should be ebay chinese made garbage pricing

Meh, problem is value.

A 10 year old mint 240 for $10k was a steal. A 25 year old shit box for $6k is garbage.

The whole hobby went to shit. Cars got worse but more expensive. Parts got worse and more expensive and just being able to easily pick up stock parts and part outs is nonexistent anymore.

15 years ago I could Craigslist 240sx and find 30 cars for sale and dozens of guys selling parts. I could swing by a pick-N-pull and find at least one 240.

So yeah, supply v demand / scarcity... But the problem I have is when you are looking at a stock Kouki for $25k... That's in spitting distance of an Aircooled Porsche, C6, C5Z06, brand new GT86, R32 GTR, Imported N/A MKIV.... Etc.

There is just Soooo much out there $20, $25 and $30k can buy.

I saw a guy score a 2010 salvage title GT500 for $23k.

What made the 240 great to me was the whole package, today that package is more aligned with a C5 Corvette.

You can get a C5 for $9-15k that's well cared for, parts are cheap, mods are simple and cheap and the cars are great to beat on. Buying a project isn't a total restoration with impossible to find interior parts, dashes and weather stripping.


That said, I'd buy a brand new 180sx Type-X for $20-25k.

[jedi03]

so makes it worth 10x as much obvs

[dorkidori_s13]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Entire Corbic response... just to save space

oh i completely agree this guys asking price is outrageous.. someone above stated $8,000. THAT would be more inline with what the car is worth.

Also, in regards to your parts cost thing (like replacements or restoration stuff)... i tend to buy all that i can from Japan. just picked up a fully remanufactured SR20det power steering pump with pulley, nuts, bolts and bracket for $100 + $60 in shipping. the rebuilt KA pump i bought here was like $180 shipped and only included the pump. price gouging for junk/poor condition used parts (from people wanting top dollar) in the US is really annoying and if you know how to buy parts out Japan, thats totally worth the little extra in shipping costs.

also, someone above said something about "car is identical to a 97". well, there were only a few hundred made in 97 that were stick as well. 98 is the last production year, so its kind of special to those of us who still value these cars.

also... not sure what this was about...

Originally Posted by duballstar37

I've heard that urethane time machines are "ebay chinese made garbage".

if shit talking, dont care. go waste your breath with the people who dont approve of what i do (im sure theres a thread about it somewhere) caaaaaaaause no fucks given on my end of what people think anymore!

[Initial Drift]

Oh dang. I'm glad to know that sourcing parts from Japan isn't as cost prohibitive as I believed.

[dorkidori_s13]

Originally Posted by Initial Drift

Oh dang. I'm glad to know that sourcing parts from Japan isn't as cost prohibitive as I believed.

no. but it requires a lot of time in translating and figuring out what works with what... ive been hunting around japan for my aero parts that i reproduce for the past 5 odd years, so ive gotten really good at where to go on various sites and also what words to use to find what im looking for. for a novice, it will be frustrating and discouraging. its also something that needs to be done on a computer to make it much easier with switching between windows, copy and pasting and navigating around various open tabs to make it all happen. you also need to set up an account with Buyee AND an importer. the importer is REQUIRED for large or super heavy items.

[Initial Drift]

Makes sense. Not speaking the language and expecting to be able to easily acquire things is foolhardy.

I imagine finding a reputable and trustworthy importer is one of the harder pieces. Especially if you are very inconsistent with your frequency of purchases.

[deolio]

but google translate exists...

[duballstar37]

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

also... not sure what this was about...



if shit talking, dont care. go waste your breath with the people who dont approve of what i do (im sure theres a thread about it somewhere) caaaaaaaause no fucks given on my end of what people think anymore!

Not shit talking and my comment wasn't directed at your products or hustle, just trolling and being an "Old grumpy asshole of ziliva" because the OP once said:

Originally Posted by dizzariot

...but hey, I'm just an asshole. Following rules is 'mean' and 'counterproductive.'

[jedi03]

it was pretty funny imo...especially as there was no bashing dorki's actual product but the theoretical item that was implied by the prior posts!

[S13SilviaGirl]

Originally Posted by spooled240

True, but does anyone really care? lol The car is identical to a '97

Some do. I know I would prefer a 98 over a 97...but alas I have 2 97s

[dorkidori_s13]

Originally Posted by S13SilviaGirl

Some do. I know I would prefer a 98 over a 97...but alas I have 2 97s

oh shit... HIDE!!! SHES GOT THE BAN AXE!!!

also... ITS YOUR FAULT!

[spooled240]

Originally Posted by S13SilviaGirl

Some do. I know I would prefer a 98 over a 97...but alas I have 2 97s

As would I if all things are equal on the 97 and 98.

But I'd take a slightly cleaner 97 any day.

The price difference between model years makes sense for other cars with more differences, like FD's. 94 and 95's had more performance available options not limited to the R1/R2, they had better interior finishes, better interior color combinations, passenger air bags, better paint quality, different paint colors all on top of just being more rare.

So that's why I find it funny when people are like, "ninety fucking eighttttt!!!! Extremely RURRR!!" ..It was one of a smaller batch of identical s14's that rolled off the assembly line 12 months later, who gives a shit.