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mbmbmb23 · 12-29-2006, 02:54 AM

I believe there is no RWD $25k market because the target market for those type of cars are happy buying a used Supra or slightly used WRX, RX8, etc.

-m

*exitspeed* · 12-29-2006, 07:41 AM

^
I don't believe that to be completely true. Not everyone wants used cars.

theicecreamdan · 12-29-2006, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Autoblog is reporting about 240/200sx/Silvia rumors now. I consider them to a be a very good source too.I like that if they find the info they have to be false or not accurate they will change or get rid of it.

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/12/15/n...a-replacement/

Same news over at Leftlane.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/12/...00sx-sucessor/

DId everybody already forget about this? And the one with the glass see through roof?

*exitspeed* · 12-29-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by theicecreamdan

DId everybody already forget about this? And the one with the glass see through roof?

Noonetens to me...

wootwoot · 12-31-2006, 04:12 PM

I know in 5-10 years when I can afford to buy a new car I definitely will. I want a car with 0 miles on it so I can know everything that has ever happend to it. I'm sick of other peoples problems/mistakes/negligence.

EchoOfSilence · 12-31-2006, 07:51 PM

The kabura looks like an rx-8 hatchback. looking good though

What nissan needs to do is follow suit already and fucking being direct injection stateside. Mazda, Audi, etc. have been capitalizing on this shit recently and Nissan's just missing out. *-HR engines + direct injection and vvl = winning shit.

I think i'd take a less edgy Urge than the Foria. But I would rather take the updated 510 than any of them.

fuck it, used Elise here i come

wootwoot · 12-31-2006, 10:10 PM

^^^ I've been pissed for quite sometime now that the VQ series is not direct injected. Toyota has even done it now but they were lazy and it only runs on the DISI injectors as primaries (low RPM). It cuts emissions seriously so there is enough of a reason to do it.

~4N~ · 01-01-2007, 11:22 PM

The Foria resembles a whale, and the Kabura looks like the RX-8's ugly sibling.
I'm not a big fan of the new car styling trends. Triangular headlights, ugly tall body, huge wheels, and huge high front ends. New cars look like battering rams. The 350Z looks awesome like that, but now that every new car coming out looks like a variant of the 350Z, it's getting way played out.
I love the 240's low stealthy sloping profile.

Baka Sama · 01-02-2007, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ~4N~

The Foria resembles a whale, and the Kabura looks like the RX-8's ugly sibling.
I'm not a big fan of the new car styling trends. Triangular headlights, ugly tall body, huge wheels, and huge high front ends. New cars look like battering rams. The 350Z looks awesome like that, but now that every new car coming out looks like a variant of the 350Z, it's getting way played out.
I love the 240's low stealthy sloping profile.

How old are you by the way? I find alot of people in their early/mid 30's dont care for the newer styles. I personally think the Kabura is the best looking car I've seen in a long ass time. I'll even go as far as to say its a lot better looking than the 350z. One car I cant stand as far as looks is the Lancer Evo. Gees... Thats one ugly car.

~4N~ · 01-02-2007, 11:33 AM

I'm 18, haha, and I think the Evo is hot, well, at least better looking than the new STi.

*exitspeed* · 01-02-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Baka Sama

How old are you by the way? I find alot of people in their early/mid 30's dont care for the newer styles.

I find this to be true also. Though I'm not quit 30 (27 to be exact), I like a lot of the newer style cars. I do prefer the lower beltlines, lower cowels, etc. I think car designs now push the limits of car design more then ever before (retro crap designs aside

).

I look forward to what lies in store. Cars are becoming more dependable, and the bang for your buck ration is awsome.

~4N~ · 01-10-2007, 09:37 AM

RWD Toyota FT-HS concept. It's supposed to have at least 400 hp.

EchoOfSilence · 01-10-2007, 10:12 AM

g35 + gtr + cube-ish lights + crack

it looks pretty cool, i guess

*exitspeed* · 01-10-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ~4N~

RWD Toyota FT-HS concept. It's supposed to have at least 400 hp.

http://www.zilvia.net/f//showthread.php?t=124329

chibo · 01-10-2007, 11:00 AM

Ugh, what's with almost every new car looking like a piece of smoothed lard. I hate the way auto design is going, I liked the straight lines of the 90's. Oh well, times change. I suppose the era of light weight, rwd, turbo sportscars that are cheap is gone. I can't think of a single current production car that I'd buy other than an IX Evo or STi... I hate the way the 350z looks (too goddamn round) and the RX8 doesn't have enough power.

*exitspeed* · 01-10-2007, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by chibo

Ugh, what's with almost every new car looking like a piece of smoothed lard. I hate the way auto design is going, I liked the straight lines of the 90's. Oh well, times change. I suppose the era of light weight, rwd, turbo sportscars that are cheap is gone.

S14's, Supra's, RX-7's, 300ZX's, 3000GT's...weren't cheap.

chibo · 01-10-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

S14's, Supra's, RX-7's, 300ZX's, 3000GT's...weren't cheap.

This is true - however they're all lighter weight than normal (except the 3kgt), have beefy internals, not filled with electronics, and completely overengineered. (I was mostly thinking of the SW20 MR2, FD RX7, and S13 240) There isn't that much of a choice now - you've got the Evo and STi if you want to make power cheap.

irax · 01-10-2007, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ~4N~

looks like a boat, it needs fore and aft lights and a mast.

*exitspeed* · 01-10-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chibo

This is true - however they're all lighter weight than normal (except the 3kgt), have beefy internals, not filled with electronics, and completely overengineered. (I was mostly thinking of the SW20 MR2, FD RX7, and S13 240) There isn't that much of a choice now - you've got the Evo and STi if you want to make power cheap.

The point of this thread though was not actually the Toyota, but that cars that are leightweight, RWD, and inexpensive are coming back out. There are plenty of cars that are going to fill these voids in the near future. I've named off a good 4-5 models so far that I'm aware of.

~4N~ · 01-10-2007, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

http://www.zilvia.net/f//showthread.php?t=124329

Sorry, I had a feeling it could be a repost.

*exitspeed* · 03-28-2007, 01:56 PM

I know we've had some other threads bout different cars lately, but I didn't want to start another one specifically.

Seems Hyundai Tiburon could be next. Based off their new Genesis sedan. There's could possibly compete with the G37, and 335 though; [raises eyebrow]

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/28/c...drive-tiburon/

*Yuri* · 03-28-2007, 02:04 PM

BMW 1-series coupe.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-conte...50&idg=2&idi=3

OptionZero · 03-28-2007, 02:07 PM

its gonna be waaay overpriced

Baka Sama · 03-28-2007, 04:49 PM

Way to step up Hyundai!

*exitspeed* · 04-30-2007, 12:55 PM

Updates from R&T posted on Autoblog today. RX-7 styling after the Kabura and a real Toyota sports car are ont he way:

"When the newest issue of Road & Track arrived in our mailbox, we were impressed that the 60th anniversary issue was sport compactalicious. The cover sports the new Mitsubishi EVO X alongside a photochopped '08 Impreza STI, and the inevitable shootout consists of the Civic Si, MazdaSpeed3, MINI Cooper S, Sentra SE-R Spec V and the VW GTI.

What was more interesting was one of the subtitles proclaiming that a new RX-7 is in the works by Mazda and that Toyota is (finally) beginning to develop an honest-to-God sports car based off the Lexus IS platform.

As for the RX-7, R&T's inside sources say that due to slowing sales of the RX-8, the engineers at Mazda are hard at work improving the 13B rotary's output. If (when?) the new RX-7 debuts, it will be powered by this new and improved Renesis, supposedly sporting an electrically assisted supercharger, much like the one found on the RX-8 Hybrid that debuted in Tokyo in 2003.

Additionally, the rumored RX-7 will grab styling cues from the Kabura concept (pictured) that was unveiled at Detroit in 2006 and will be built on the platform that underpins the MX-5/RX-8. Whether or not the next gen. 7 will come in a 2+2 configuration remains to be seen, but regardless, don't expect anything until the end of the decade."

*exitspeed* · 06-07-2007, 03:58 PM

OK folks. More 240 successor rumors. This time coming from Autocar.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/07/b...oupe-redesign/

Just wanted to keep you posted. I'd be willing to bet a few bucks wee see a more production ready car during this the 07/08 car show tour.

atom · 06-07-2007, 04:56 PM

Nissan has been putting out some pretty decent looking cars lately, I hope they seriously DON'T base any car off the urge concept. That car is barf city.

BOROSUN · 06-07-2007, 05:39 PM

have you seen the hyundai commercial, where they quickly show all their platforms/cars at the end. it showed a weird coupe.

Kn1ves · 06-08-2007, 09:09 AM

^^^ probably new tiburon?

havent seen the commercial

*exitspeed* · 06-08-2007, 09:30 AM

Ok since Nissan is actually talking about it now there's gonna be a million more threads coming soon. So let's make it official.

It's supposedly going to take sytling cues from the Urge Concept shown at the NAIAS in 2005.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/07/b...oupe-redesign/

12-29-2006, 02:54 AM	#61
mbmbmb23 Zilvia Contributor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC. Posts: 1,776 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: mbmbmb23 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I believe there is no RWD $25k market because the target market for those type of cars are happy buying a used Supra or slightly used WRX, RX8, etc. -m __________________ 400x200

12-29-2006, 07:41 AM	#62
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^ I don't believe that to be completely true. Not everyone wants used cars. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

12-31-2006, 04:12 PM	#65
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 38 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know in 5-10 years when I can afford to buy a new car I definitely will. I want a car with 0 miles on it so I can know everything that has ever happend to it. I'm sick of other peoples problems/mistakes/negligence. __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

12-31-2006, 07:51 PM	#66
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The kabura looks like an rx-8 hatchback. looking good though What nissan needs to do is follow suit already and fucking being direct injection stateside. Mazda, Audi, etc. have been capitalizing on this shit recently and Nissan's just missing out. *-HR engines + direct injection and vvl = winning shit. I think i'd take a less edgy Urge than the Foria. But I would rather take the updated 510 than any of them. fuck it, used Elise here i come __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

12-31-2006, 10:10 PM	#67
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 38 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^ I've been pissed for quite sometime now that the VQ series is not direct injected. Toyota has even done it now but they were lazy and it only runs on the DISI injectors as primaries (low RPM). It cuts emissions seriously so there is enough of a reason to do it. __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

01-01-2007, 11:22 PM	#68
~4N~ Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kansas City Age: 36 Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The Foria resembles a whale, and the Kabura looks like the RX-8's ugly sibling. I'm not a big fan of the new car styling trends. Triangular headlights, ugly tall body, huge wheels, and huge high front ends. New cars look like battering rams. The 350Z looks awesome like that, but now that every new car coming out looks like a variant of the 350Z, it's getting way played out. I love the 240's low stealthy sloping profile. __________________ Last edited by ~4N~; 01-01-2007 at 11:46 PM..

01-02-2007, 11:33 AM	#70
~4N~ Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kansas City Age: 36 Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm 18, haha, and I think the Evo is hot, well, at least better looking than the new STi. __________________

01-10-2007, 09:37 AM	#72
~4N~ Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kansas City Age: 36 Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	RWD Toyota FT-HS concept. It's supposed to have at least 400 hp. __________________

01-10-2007, 10:12 AM	#73
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	g35 + gtr + cube-ish lights + crack it looks pretty cool, i guess __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

01-10-2007, 11:00 AM	#75
chibo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tempe and Scottsdale, Arizona Age: 36 Posts: 1,425 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ugh, what's with almost every new car looking like a piece of smoothed lard. I hate the way auto design is going, I liked the straight lines of the 90's. Oh well, times change. I suppose the era of light weight, rwd, turbo sportscars that are cheap is gone. I can't think of a single current production car that I'd buy other than an IX Evo or STi... I hate the way the 350z looks (too goddamn round) and the RX8 doesn't have enough power.

03-28-2007, 01:56 PM	#81
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I know we've had some other threads bout different cars lately, but I didn't want to start another one specifically. Seems Hyundai Tiburon could be next. Based off their new Genesis sedan. There's could possibly compete with the G37, and 335 though; [raises eyebrow] http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/28/c...drive-tiburon/ __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

03-28-2007, 02:07 PM	#83
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 40 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	its gonna be waaay overpriced

03-28-2007, 04:49 PM	#84
Baka Sama Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Metro Atlanta Age: 40 Posts: 1,130 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Way to step up Hyundai!

04-30-2007, 12:55 PM	#85
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Updates from R&T posted on Autoblog today. RX-7 styling after the Kabura and a real Toyota sports car are ont he way: "When the newest issue of Road & Track arrived in our mailbox, we were impressed that the 60th anniversary issue was sport compactalicious. The cover sports the new Mitsubishi EVO X alongside a photochopped '08 Impreza STI, and the inevitable shootout consists of the Civic Si, MazdaSpeed3, MINI Cooper S, Sentra SE-R Spec V and the VW GTI. What was more interesting was one of the subtitles proclaiming that a new RX-7 is in the works by Mazda and that Toyota is (finally) beginning to develop an honest-to-God sports car based off the Lexus IS platform. As for the RX-7, R&T's inside sources say that due to slowing sales of the RX-8, the engineers at Mazda are hard at work improving the 13B rotary's output. If (when?) the new RX-7 debuts, it will be powered by this new and improved Renesis, supposedly sporting an electrically assisted supercharger, much like the one found on the RX-8 Hybrid that debuted in Tokyo in 2003. Additionally, the rumored RX-7 will grab styling cues from the Kabura concept (pictured) that was unveiled at Detroit in 2006 and will be built on the platform that underpins the MX-5/RX-8. Whether or not the next gen. 7 will come in a 2+2 configuration remains to be seen, but regardless, don't expect anything until the end of the decade." __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

06-07-2007, 03:58 PM	#86
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	OK folks. More 240 successor rumors. This time coming from Autocar. http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/07/b...oupe-redesign/ Just wanted to keep you posted. I'd be willing to bet a few bucks wee see a more production ready car during this the 07/08 car show tour. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

06-07-2007, 04:56 PM	#87
atom Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,196 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nissan has been putting out some pretty decent looking cars lately, I hope they seriously DON'T base any car off the urge concept. That car is barf city.

06-07-2007, 05:39 PM	#88
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 43 Posts: 5,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	have you seen the hyundai commercial, where they quickly show all their platforms/cars at the end. it showed a weird coupe.

06-08-2007, 09:09 AM	#89
Kn1ves Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ɐɔ 'sǝlǝƃuɐ sol Posts: 1,281 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Kn1ves Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^ probably new tiburon? havent seen the commercial __________________ there's something here

06-08-2007, 09:30 AM	#90
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The Official 240sx Successor thread Ok since Nissan is actually talking about it now there's gonna be a million more threads coming soon. So let's make it official. It's supposedly going to take sytling cues from the Urge Concept shown at the NAIAS in 2005. http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/07/b...oupe-redesign/ __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com