4k ultra hd tv's?

[Felipe]

I was so I even made them put on a Blu-ray dvd (because they was running a 4k demo)and still was like until I saw the price, then I was like lol

are they really worth it?

[tricky_ab]

If you have the cash, heck yeah!

Seriously, there's no real content, but it's coming. Everything that I've viewed on 4K displays had an amazing image. There was great added depth to the image. I'm more sold on 4K tech with front projectors. My last projector was a 4K lite model, so it wasn't true 4K spec. It was rather close, and I LOVED the image it produced.

The demos I had of Sony's true 4K spec projector was $14,000. I'm hoping to see them under $10,000 in the next year or two. I'm still in the planning phase for my basement so I have time

I'm planning to buy one to replace the 55" LED I have in my loft space, I'm just waiting for the larger sizes (65"+ models) to be priced under $5K Canadian. CES is in a week so hopefully I'll see something up my alley.

[HyperTek]

i barely got my step pops a bluray player. I think my fam here doesn't see much difference between 720 and 1080p lol.

Give it some time I say.

[WIKID S4TEEN]

Yeah, goggle Sony 84" UHD.
$24K LOL

[BOROSUN]

right now, 4k content is missing. unless you like pc media/photo/gaming with massively dope resolution.

for tvs I would wait a little bit. wait for content and technology to mature...like oled 4k and actual true 4k resolution. for monitors that LG 31mu91 true 4k, It's making me itch for it. but, I wish they made a faster response 4k monitor already.

def. the larger the better for 4k

[Felipe]

I saw them at best buy. they had sony 55" and Samsung 65" the Samsung I made them play BR. he explaind that since the movie is not 4k the tv upconverts it to like 3k or some thing similar. the 65" was at $3k

[drift freaq]

Seriously guys don't let them snow you. Fact is 99% of broadcast is still 720p . Blue Ray is 1080P . 4K? Only people even near that realm are high end graphics. No viewing content yet that is that high. It will be several years before there is considering broadcast has not even gone to 1080 yet. Ya it does not matter cable/ Dish etc.... its just not there.

[silverarrow27]

^^^True, I think the only movie available in true 4K is The Hobbit only according to an article I read a while back about the movie and Peter Jackson. I would definitely wait on getting these overpriced televisions until more content is available to actually utilize 4K.

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by silverarrow27

^^^True, I think the only movie available in true 4K is The Hobbit only according to an article I read a while back about the movie and Peter Jackson. I would definitely wait on getting these overpriced televisions until more content is available to actually utilize 4K.

All the movies on digital cinema projectors since 2012 are 4k. They all run on 300gb hard discs.

The problem is BluRay is 1080p. There is no 4k content optical disc. Cable, Satellite don't have enough bandwidth to be pumping multiple streams of 250 megabit-per-second into peoples houses. They can barely do 720P. Everything is going to be upscaled for a while until a bluray killer emerges.

When setting up (average)peoples equipment, no one can tell 720p from 1080p. I have to hold my tongue when they can't tell 480p from 720p. It kind of pisses me off that they are throwing so much behind 4k TV's when they totally botched 21:9.

Can someone explain why DCP is 4096x2160 but the 4K tvs are 3840x2160? 4K Scope (2.39:1) is 4096x1716 and 4K Flat (1.85:1) is 3996x2160.

[tricky_ab]

For movies, this could be quick. Storage is a concern, if we move to HEVC on the codec side, even better. HEVC could be a software upgrade for your PS4's, brand new bluray players, etc. So people buy a new TV, upgrade their player, voila! 4K home movies!

Broadcast, whole other story. Over the air stations will probably never do it. Because of bandwidth limitations for both Cable and Satellite, you will definitely need HEVC. This will require new set top boxes so it would have to be a premium service, at least initially.

HBO and ESPN in 4K are definitely possible. All content will be upscaled from 1080p60 to 4K initially, it will still look great. Native 4K live content will come when the HEVC codec matures.

[BOROSUN]

Originally Posted by S14DB

Can someone explain why DCP is 4096x2160 but the 4K tvs are 3840x2160? 4K Scope (2.39:1) is 4096x1716 and 4K Flat (1.85:1) is 3996x2160.

it has to do with tvs sizes / aspect ratio 1.78:1 so, resolution is watered down. I guess they call it industry standard 4k 3840x2160.

monitors can run ultra wide and the wider format is becoming more popular. i expect to see more true 4k res 4096x2160. its a great direction because multi monitor setups are a pain.

[tricky_ab]

Originally Posted by upsdude

720p/1080p looks good enough anyways. if you want your picture to look even more realistic than that, then just go outside and look at real stuff lol

edit:
this kind of stuff always happen-remember when 1080p was brand new, and the tv's capable of such resolutions were so expensive? just wait out the initial hype and the technology will get cheaper.

Meh, flag ship models always demand top dollars for the best PQ. It's not to say that the technology overall will not trickle down to cheaper models, but they won't share the same overall quality.

Originally Posted by drift freaq

The funny thing about all this stuff is I have come to prefer the picture on a Plasma be it 1080P or 720P over the picture on a LED backlit LCD. The LED TV pic is just strange to me. It does not look like you are watching analog or digital film. That may seem strange but its just something I have noticed.

Nah, motion is a lot better on plasma sets overall. The only set I've seen that has come close, were Sony's XBR series units. Samsung is getting better, but for LED, it's a Sony that you're after (and this is coming from someone who owns both a high end Samsung LED and plasma set.

Originally Posted by BOROSUN

it has to do with tvs sizes / aspect ratio 1.78:1 so, resolution is watered down. I guess they call it industry standard 4k 3840x2160.

monitors can run ultra wide and the wider format is becoming more popular. i expect to see more true 4k res 4096x2160. its a great direction because multi monitor setups are a pain.

Well stated...

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by tricky_ab

Nah, motion is a lot better on plasma sets overall. The only set I've seen that has come close, were Sony's XBR series units. Samsung is getting better, but for LED, it's a Sony that you're after (and this is coming from someone who owns both a high end Samsung LED and plasma set.

I know that, its why I own and love my Panasonic Plasma. I was just commenting on how odd LED/LCD's look in comparison. Of course I have not checked out the Sony XBR's.

[upsdude]

720p/1080p looks good enough anyways. if you want your picture to look even more realistic than that, then just go outside and look at real stuff lol

edit:
this kind of stuff always happen-remember when 1080p was brand new, and the tv's capable of such resolutions were so expensive? just wait out the initial hype and the technology will get cheaper.

[drift freaq]

The funny thing about all this stuff is I have come to prefer the picture on a Plasma be it 1080P or 720P over the picture on a LED backlit LCD. The LED TV pic is just strange to me. It does not look like you are watching analog or digital film. That may seem strange but its just something I have noticed.

[Felipe]

a aint going that big, more like 55"-60". 65" is too big for me

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by Felipe

a aint going that big, more like 55"-60". 65" is too big for me

I own a 50" Panasonic. I was going to go 42 but the right deal came along on the 50 and now I cannot see going any smaller. lol Smaller sets look tiny.

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by Felipe

a aint going that big, more like 55"-60". 65" is too big for me

That's what she said...

Originally Posted by drift freaq

I own a 50" Panasonic. I was going to go 42 but the right deal came along on the 50 and now I cannot see going any smaller. lol Smaller sets look tiny.

It's funny how when I look at someone's set up and they want to put a certain size TV in and I tell them they should get the next size up. Most of the time they end up swapping it out for the next size up.

[tricky_ab]

I always say to buy the largest display you can for your space. Nothing is worse then buyers remorse...

[Felipe]

im looking at 60" tvs 55" is ok, but I know with tvs its "go big or go home"

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by Felipe

im looking at 60" tvs 55" is ok, but I know with tvs its "go big or go home"

How long is the throw distance? TV to seat backs.
Optimum HDTV viewing distance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I like Samsung's new UHD TVs...

[Felipe]

my throw is good for that size. I can even do 65" but don't have the tv space for it.


now I have to wait for 4k content (movies), buy a good 4k player for my 4k tv with hdmi 4k cable... ugh ( upgrade everything. that's not gonna happen till 2yrs min?

[tricky_ab]

Originally Posted by Felipe

my throw is good for that size. I can even do 65" but don't have the tv space for it.


now I have to wait for 4k content (movies), buy a good 4k player for my 4k tv with hdmi 4k cable... ugh ( upgrade everything. that's not gonna happen till 2yrs min?

It's a damn shame that these companies are not working together on an actual standard for distribution of the signal, and media.

Right now it's all up in the air. The only company who's willing to double down is Samsung. If you currently buy one of their 4K tv's, they will update the distribution box (HDMI) for the next 4 years if the tech changes (and a actual standard come out).

[Felipe]

damm you 4K lol

now even the 4K tvs the 3D picture will drop down to 720p? thats no bueno on a 60" and up... heck 720p on a 55 makes me kinda ehhh o.O lol

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by Felipe

damm you 4K lol

now even the 4K tvs the 3D picture will drop down to 720p? thats no bueno on a 60" and up... heck 720p on a 55 makes me kinda ehhh o.O lol

No, 4k 3D is two 2k images.

[tricky_ab]

Originally Posted by S14DB

No, 4k 3D is two 2k images.

So it would either be 1920*2160 or 2840*1080.

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by tricky_ab

So it would either be 1920*2160 or 2840*1080.

1920×1080 for UHDTV(16:9).

[Felipe]

Originally Posted by S14DB

1920×1080 for UHDTV(16:9).

[Felipe]

so I decided to set aside this beautiful monster of definition and just focus on whats in now. Even tho I will end up buying this sht few years down the road and replacing all of blueray crap lol but for now...

so far im liking.. 240hz and up, Samsung, 3d, 55 - 60... stick to plasma or go led?

[tricky_ab]

Originally Posted by Felipe

so I decided to set aside this beautiful monster of definition and just focus on whats in now. Even tho I will end up buying this sht few years down the road and replacing all of blueray crap lol but for now...

so far im liking.. 240hz and up, Samsung, 3d, 55 - 60... stick to plasma or go led?

If you have a more lighted controlled room, I'd go with plasma. Better motion, and colour accuracy. And this is coming from a guy who owns both a high end plasma and LED set.