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Dutchmalmiss · 03-03-2021, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Uh whoa, Nissan possibly just teased the next GTR. At first I thought it was the GT-R50 but the twilights and wing are significantly different. Looks like they are leaning into a more super car shape from the teaser.

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Looks like they derived from the Vision GT concept they put in Gran Turismo 6/Sport. Picture below is the closest to the same angle I could find and looks nearly spot on. So....that means they barely changed it since 2014 haha.

altitude · 03-03-2021, 08:24 AM

Volvo going full EV by 2030 and sold exclusively online: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUKKBN2AU0AU

The following article lists electrification plans for 16 car makers, but does not list Mazda... https://www.edie.net/library/From-Au...ansition-/7036

deolio · 03-03-2021, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutchmalmiss

that means they barely changed it since 2014 haha.

Barely? I see a ton of changes just in that small section. The recent pic looks far more polished and more like a production model with the smoother edges and molded tail lights.

Dutchmalmiss · 03-03-2021, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by deolio

Barely? I see a ton of changes just in that small section. The recent pic looks far more polished and more like a production model with the smoother edges and molded tail lights.

Still doesn't look like much for 7 years IMO. But hey, detailed eye for design isn't my forte haha. We'll see what it looks like once it's all revealed.

BryanSayWhat · 03-03-2021, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutchmalmiss

Still doesn't look like much for 7 years IMO. But hey, detailed eye for design isn't my forte haha. We'll see what it looks like once it's all revealed.

Seems to be on course with the previous GT-R...

2001 GT-R concept:

GT-R Proto in 2005:

Finally the 2008 release:

SimpleS14 · 03-04-2021, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Uh whoa, Nissan possibly just teased the next GTR. At first I thought it was the GT-R50 but the twilights and wing are significantly different. Looks like they are leaning into a more super car shape from the teaser.

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It looks like the spoiler is flush on top of the taillights when its at a rested state. As cool as it would be to see it take more of a mid-engine super car shape, I don't think Nissan is in a financial position to pull that off. I'm going to guess that they will follow the same route with the Z and rework the exterior/interior on the existing GT-R platform.

cured13 · 03-04-2021, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

I'm going to guess that they will follow the same route with the Z and rework the exterior/interior on the existing GT-R platform.

and why not, is there anything wrong with current platform?
I think it's very smart move to modify instead of replacing what's not broken.

The money that this move saves, Nissan should spend on better exterior and interior designers.

Hey Nissan, ask Gordon - he will hook you up lol.

*exitspeed* · 03-04-2021, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

It looks like the spoiler is flush on top of the taillights when its at a rested state. As cool as it would be to see it take more of a mid-engine super car shape, I don't think Nissan is in a financial position to pull that off. I'm going to guess that they will follow the same route with the Z and rework the exterior/interior on the existing GT-R platform.

Good observation on the wing.

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*exitspeed* · 03-15-2021, 05:57 AM

https://www.autoblog.com/2021/03/13/...ort-questions/

20 GR Super Sport hyper cars are being built. If there?s any doubt of Toyota?s sports car intentions this should change your mind.

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DRIFTER-M · 03-15-2021, 12:51 PM

It's weird that Toyota is leading the last, remaining charge for our scene.

I always felt like modern Toyota was so far removed from cool, the FR-S/ BRZ didn't initially excite me much, and the initial news of the new Supra had me pretty negative a couple of years ago.

BUT,

Is there anybody really fighting the fight anymore besides them? Honda never made much cool in the middle class sport car range (sorry, Honda fans), Nissan is but a shell of their former (granted, they are trying). Never thought Toyota would be the voice of reason these days, but I find myself more and more attracted to the 86 and even the Supra (if they would just add a manual).

Hope the new GT-R is cool, but please - stay away from Mid-engine Nissan. Definitely hyped for the new Z, but I know it's going to be a boat.

SimpleS14 · 03-16-2021, 07:08 AM

T.50 working prototype first drive. Even though its limited to 3K rpm, it does sound nice and the final product is going to be amazing.

Dutchmalmiss · 03-16-2021, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DRIFTER-M

It's weird that Toyota is leading the last, remaining charge for our scene.

I always felt like modern Toyota was so far removed from cool, the FR-S/ BRZ didn't initially excite me much, and the initial news of the new Supra had me pretty negative a couple of years ago.

BUT,

Is there anybody really fighting the fight anymore besides them? Honda never made much cool in the middle class sport car range (sorry, Honda fans), Nissan is but a shell of their former (granted, they are trying). Never thought Toyota would be the voice of reason these days, but I find myself more and more attracted to the 86 and even the Supra (if they would just add a manual).

Hope the new GT-R is cool, but please - stay away from Mid-engine Nissan. Definitely hyped for the new Z, but I know it's going to be a boat.

As far as sub-$30k imports? You're right, it's basically just Toyota and Mazda at this point. Additionally, Toyota appears to be on the verge of debuting an MR2 successor and GR Corolla for the US, and Mazda's got their tried and true Miata, which happened to somehow continue to sell during this pandemic. The new Z's probably going to crest $40k. Honda's pretty mum about any details on an S2000 revival. Hyundai's been stepping up their game with each N-line release. I'm liking what they got with the Veloster; makes me think it's the CRX that Honda wishes they made.

cured13 · 03-16-2021, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

T.50 working prototype first drive. Even though its limited to 3K rpm, it does sound nice and the final product is going to be amazing.

Most people don't think or feel about cars as an art.
This car is an instrument like a Stradivarius violin that takes a real master to build and real artist to play/drive to be really appreciated.

The way it moves and reacts to steering, how it sounds even at 3k is special.
Italian cars of sixties were like that - No limits, No BS and pure Beauty.

*exitspeed* · 03-22-2021, 02:53 PM

Oh shit look at the 400z in gray!!!! Freeeesh.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMu1A0CH...d=i0eceu369nc4

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Dutchmalmiss · 03-22-2021, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Oh shit look at the 400z in gray!!!! Freeeesh.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMu1A0CH...d=i0eceu369nc4

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I don't know if my eyes are crazy but that fuel-filler door is HUGE. Other than that, looks fantastic in that color.

*exitspeed* · 03-22-2021, 05:01 PM

MT is reporting that this is a production model. And yeah that fuel door does look huge. We?ll see.

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altitude · 03-23-2021, 06:07 AM

/me likes it

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

yeah that fuel door does look huge.

Room for a plugin hybrid option under that door?

cdlong · 03-23-2021, 08:49 AM

I noticed that too. Given the angle of the fender at that point, it's probably oversized so the pump handle doesn't rest against the body.

BryanSayWhat · 03-23-2021, 10:48 AM

^^This.

Also, new pump handles have gotten bulkier for whatever reason... I've had a couple that are super close when filling up my STI.

cured13 · 03-23-2021, 04:19 PM

drift freaq · 03-23-2021, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Oh shit look at the 400z in gray!!!! Freeeesh.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMu1A0CH...d=i0eceu369nc4

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Ok this is moving fast towards a definite purchase. I guess the ever increasing value M car is going to get shifted. It should pay for at least half of the cost or more right off the bat.

*exitspeed* · 03-23-2021, 05:25 PM

Yeah so there?s two cars here. One gray one and one silver. And one has a black roof. You can also see the grill has a higher sheen finish on it. It?s not chrome at least. Seems like there might be a good number of options.

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Dutchmalmiss · 03-23-2021, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Yeah so there?s two cars here. One gray one and one silver. And one has a black roof. You can also see the grill has a higher sheen finish on it. It?s not chrome at least. Seems like there might be a good number of options.

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I'm thinking the silver/black one is like a sports/enthusiast trim
Grey one is definitely a Grand Touring trim

I wonder if the digital dash is standard throughout all trims.

tb13 · 03-23-2021, 08:23 PM

Gray looks great, seems to show off the car a lot better than the yellow.

I still can't get behind the front bumper, the angles seem so jarring compared to the curves of the headlights. I know its a homage to the 240z, but it just looks weird, for sure going to need to see it in person. Also think its kinda odd they are using nearly the exact same hood design from the HR 350z, if they had brought the bump down a bit further making it seem thinner I think it would look more at home.

rvns14 · 03-26-2021, 09:41 AM

Some speculation on the new Z below.

https://www.400zclub.com/forum/threa...sion-more.147/

The Z35 will still be a "Fairlady Z" in Japan, all other markets the Z35 will be called "Nissan Z"

MSRP: $34,995 (this is for the base with 0 options)
There will be 2 packages
- Base: 0 options.
- Type S: Brembos, thicker sways, coolers, other stuff.
- Type T: Leather, Power Seats, Heated and Cooled, Auto cruise, blind spot, etc
- Type ST: Both S and T Packages
- Each package will be roughly 5k each, ST will set you back 10k

Base gets Akebonos, Sport or Nismo get the Brembos - No more floating calipers.

All cars get...
- The 400hp Flavor of VR30DDTT
- The Digital Dash
- Android Auto / Car Play
- Rear Duckbill

Dry Weight = 3,252lbs

- There is a Nismo version coming....it won't just be a body kit, exhaust, tune and some badges this time

The 6 spd manual is a carryover from the 370Z

There is not a roadster in the cards right now, sorry folks.
Nissan is gunning for the Supra and the Mustang but it's main target is the Supra - make no mistake.

cured13 · 03-26-2021, 06:37 PM

$35K is almost what some people here are asking for their rust buckets stretched up to 350hp

drift freaq · 03-26-2021, 11:22 PM

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$35K is almost what some people here are asking for their rust buckets stretched up to 350hp

$35k and it handles well and they will have a lot of buyers.

olah.inc · 03-27-2021, 02:06 PM

No way it’s gonna be 35k, not even for the base. Cmon people

cured13 · 03-27-2021, 05:55 PM

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No way it?s gonna be 35k, not even for the base. Cmon people

I think it is possible. It's about time we should be able to buy directly from manufacturer and not from a Nissan "stealer".

BryanSayWhat · 03-27-2021, 08:42 PM

Can't wait to see how it does on Tsukuba and Gunsai.

Also, I wonder how long it will be until we see a complete VR30DDTT M/T swap in an S-chassis?

03-03-2021, 08:24 AM	#13772
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03-15-2021, 05:57 AM	#13779
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	https://www.autoblog.com/2021/03/13/...ort-questions/ 20 GR Super Sport hyper cars are being built. If there?s any doubt of Toyota?s sports car intentions this should change your mind. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

03-15-2021, 12:51 PM	#13780
DRIFTER-M Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in my car Posts: 711 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's weird that Toyota is leading the last, remaining charge for our scene. I always felt like modern Toyota was so far removed from cool, the FR-S/ BRZ didn't initially excite me much, and the initial news of the new Supra had me pretty negative a couple of years ago. BUT, Is there anybody really fighting the fight anymore besides them? Honda never made much cool in the middle class sport car range (sorry, Honda fans), Nissan is but a shell of their former (granted, they are trying). Never thought Toyota would be the voice of reason these days, but I find myself more and more attracted to the 86 and even the Supra (if they would just add a manual). Hope the new GT-R is cool, but please - stay away from Mid-engine Nissan. Definitely hyped for the new Z, but I know it's going to be a boat. __________________ I Love Drifting Thread > Drifting is Stupid thread

03-16-2021, 07:08 AM	#13781
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 40 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	T.50 working prototype first drive. Even though its limited to 3K rpm, it does sound nice and the final product is going to be amazing. __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

03-22-2021, 02:53 PM	#13784
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Oh shit look at the 400z in gray!!!! Freeeesh. https://www.instagram.com/p/CMu1A0CH...d=i0eceu369nc4 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

03-22-2021, 05:01 PM	#13786
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The Future Automotive Thread MT is reporting that this is a production model. And yeah that fuel door does look huge. We?ll see. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

03-23-2021, 08:49 AM	#13788
cdlong Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Age: 43 Posts: 1,864 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: cdlong Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I noticed that too. Given the angle of the fender at that point, it's probably oversized so the pump handle doesn't rest against the body. __________________

03-23-2021, 10:48 AM	#13789
BryanSayWhat Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 291 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^This. Also, new pump handles have gotten bulkier for whatever reason... I've had a couple that are super close when filling up my STI.

03-23-2021, 04:19 PM	#13790
cured13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Almostthere Posts: 719 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews

03-23-2021, 05:25 PM	#13792
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yeah so there?s two cars here. One gray one and one silver. And one has a black roof. You can also see the grill has a higher sheen finish on it. It?s not chrome at least. Seems like there might be a good number of options. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

03-23-2021, 08:23 PM	#13794
tb13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Arizona ٩( ᐛ )و Subaru Parts Consultant Age: 29 Posts: 848 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Gray looks great, seems to show off the car a lot better than the yellow. I still can't get behind the front bumper, the angles seem so jarring compared to the curves of the headlights. I know its a homage to the 240z, but it just looks weird, for sure going to need to see it in person. Also think its kinda odd they are using nearly the exact same hood design from the HR 350z, if they had brought the bump down a bit further making it seem thinner I think it would look more at home. __________________

03-26-2021, 09:41 AM	#13795
rvns14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Maryland Age: 36 Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Some speculation on the new Z below. https://www.400zclub.com/forum/threa...sion-more.147/ The Z35 will still be a "Fairlady Z" in Japan, all other markets the Z35 will be called "Nissan Z" MSRP: $34,995 (this is for the base with 0 options) There will be 2 packages - Base: 0 options. - Type S: Brembos, thicker sways, coolers, other stuff. - Type T: Leather, Power Seats, Heated and Cooled, Auto cruise, blind spot, etc - Type ST: Both S and T Packages - Each package will be roughly 5k each, ST will set you back 10k Base gets Akebonos, Sport or Nismo get the Brembos - No more floating calipers. All cars get... - The 400hp Flavor of VR30DDTT - The Digital Dash - Android Auto / Car Play - Rear Duckbill Dry Weight = 3,252lbs - There is a Nismo version coming....it won't just be a body kit, exhaust, tune and some badges this time The 6 spd manual is a carryover from the 370Z There is not a roadster in the cards right now, sorry folks. Nissan is gunning for the Supra and the Mustang but it's main target is the Supra - make no mistake.

03-26-2021, 06:37 PM	#13796
cured13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Almostthere Posts: 719 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	$35K is almost what some people here are asking for their rust buckets stretched up to 350hp

03-27-2021, 02:06 PM	#13798
olah.inc Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Germany Age: 38 Posts: 261 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No way it’s gonna be 35k, not even for the base. Cmon people

03-27-2021, 08:42 PM	#13800
BryanSayWhat Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 291 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Can't wait to see how it does on Tsukuba and Gunsai. Also, I wonder how long it will be until we see a complete VR30DDTT M/T swap in an S-chassis?