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Old 06-04-2013, 04:47 PM   #61
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Nah it's right on point. He's poor because he's building his dream S13... Especially with those fancy arms.
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Nah it's right on point. He's poor because he's building his dream S13... Especially with those fancy arms.
This is pretty much what it comes down to.

Hopefully I can get some serious work done this weekend.
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We sure wouldn't mind seeing that lovely front suspension installed
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Holy shit! That is fucking awesome man!
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holy shit!!!
that setup pretty much allows you to make a u turn in the same lane

that is insane

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That is stupid angle... I really dig the RC correction!
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Sweet lock!

What is the distance between center of the outer spherical bearing and center of the bearing shaft? Just to clarify the specs on their site
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Thanks guys, I'm stoked on driving this thing soon.

From what I can measure, there is 70mm of correction in the hubs. I'm not sure where the 90-100mm comes from.

There are so many adjustments on this kit it's crazy. I've pulled the camber plates almost all the way back to try and keep the strut in the PCD. This caused a lot of camber. I reduced it as much as I could at the knuckle, but these Kei-office coils are so long they hit the knuckle at the bottom.
In this position, the tie rods are just a bit too long to let you run the control arms at their shortest setting. I have them at 16.5in bolt to ball joint center, but I think that's too far, as it has some toe out now for sure. I think I'll probably trim the sleeve on the tie rod a bit so I can run the LCA's shorter.

There is more angle to be had for sure, the toe out needs to be fixed and there is still some ackerman in the steering. If I zero everything out I should get a few more degrees.
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oh my god! thats crazy. i want to see it in action!
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sweet stuff dude. i'm working on a VQ s14... still. running into wiring problems. post up when you get into that stuff and get it started up.
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That amount of angle with your little baby wheels is unbelievable. Makes me want even smaller wheels in front.
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Yeah it's pretty crazy. The great thing about these lower control arms is that, at least at the current settings, there is room to spare on the inside at full lock. Crazy I know. I'm hoping that the additional 40mm of inner rim on my 8.75's won't limit me too much. I might try a 10mm slip on spacer, or even moving down to an 17x8.25in rim. With an 8.25in wheel and a 10mm slip on, I would only have 20mm more of the wheel on the inside, which I know I have room for.

The front fenders will go up and out quite a bit from where they are now, so I think I'll have outer clearance for either. We shall see!
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Yeah it's pretty crazy. The great thing about these lower control arms is that, at least at the current settings, there is room to spare on the inside at full lock. Crazy I know. I'm hoping that the additional 40mm of inner rim on my 8.75's won't limit me too much. I might try a 10mm slip on spacer, or even moving down to an 17x8.25in rim. With an 8.25in wheel and a 10mm slip on, I would only have 20mm more of the wheel on the inside, which I know I have room for.

The front fenders will go up and out quite a bit from where they are now, so I think I'll have outer clearance for either. We shall see!
Yea I need 40mm overs so I can run another 5mm spacer and less front camber to get more angle but I'm still not anywhere near that with full PBM stuff.
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so dope man!

Pics on here do no justice, to seeing your own car with that much angle i bet!...lol

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Just found the suspension brand, do you mind me asking how much the front set up like that ran you?
Mighty fine build thread you have here sir, props!
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so dope man!

Pics on here do no justice, to seeing your own car with that much angle i bet!...lol

Cant wait to see it all ironed out and driving
Thanks man. Yeah it's pretty mental in person, and to think there's a bit more in it? Blows my mind really.

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It was about $2400 shipped. Depends on how much your bank wants to screw you on the exchange from USD to Euros.

A lot I know, but nothing touches this as far as angle, roll center correction, and adjust-ability go. I could convert this to a purely road course set up in a day just by messing with the adjustments and drilling a hole for a sway bar.

Hopefully I can get some work done on this weekend, I'm so close to having this running and driving! Cashflow is definitely limiting me at the moment.
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wow that's ridiculous angle. Let us know how it handles , etc. Curious.
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Alright you got me hooked. This is pretty sweet. Some in bay pictures at full lock would be nice, to see if tubs are required. what size wheels do you have on there now?
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I definitely will. I think I'll make a full review thread on the kit when I get some time on it.

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Alright you got me hooked. This is pretty sweet. Some in bay pictures at full lock would be nice, to see if tubs are required. what size wheels do you have on there now?
I'll get everything tight and a little better adjusted this weekend and snap some pictures. The wheels are stock S14 wheels which should be 16x6.5 +40mm, and I have a 25mm spacer so +15mm.

I'll stick my 18x8.75+20's on this weekend (no tires unfortunately) and see how they fit as well.
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So I got the toe a lot closer and test fitted the XXR's. they do limit my travel by about a quarter of an inch.





Actually mounted a fender to see what it would look like, fitment is going to be on point, maybe even too aggressive haha.



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Totally worth the cash spent with the quality and r&d that went into those parts

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Right now I have it where the strut axis is inside the PCD of the tower. As you can see this gives me quite a bit of caster. I wanted to start with it like this for two reasons. One, I wanted to see how it drove "inside the rules" and two, the rear isn't going to have much grip for a while so I don't think I'm going to be able to take advantage of the greater front grip from a big contact patch.

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I finally got all four wheels on. My budget SUCKS for the next few weeks, so progress is going to be slow for a bit here

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Apparently -8* (reduced from above pic) is the least camber I can run at the moment, and my shock axis isn't quite inside the PCD of the strut tower. If I had shorter coilovers I could run less, but at the expense of more positive camber at lock. Hmmm, not sure if I'm going to say screw it and move the axis outside the PCD, or leave it like it is and wait till I get shorter coilovers....



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