Gaming PC Builds & Hardware

[ronmcdon]

curious how much better the 3090 performs in 4k sans dlss, especially the higher clocked aib cards. read somewhere the evga kingpin might get a 360 radiator which is kinda insane..

damn amd has been terribly complacent with enthusiast gpus in the past few years. have my fingers crossed they’ll redeem themselves with big navi in Oct

[Future240]

No fucking way AMD brings anything close to the 3080.

My guess is they will somewhat matchup to the 2080ti. Maybe exceed by 3%.

[ronmcdon]

I know. I know. Trying really really hard to be positive and open minded but maybe it's just denial.

If they can exceed the 2080ti at 700-800 its still a step forward. If its a cheaper 500 navi card that matches the 2080ti would be really happy for them. Anything better than the ancient 1080ti would be a victory. Rooting for them anyways. Competition is always good.

[ronmcdon]

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-...n-rtx-2080-ti/

Wow, 20% faster than 3080. 3090 damn tempting. Can't wait to see what the higher end OC aib cards can do on 8k. glad its not just a titan replacement.

[Future240]

Like the Titans used to be compared to the XX80 cards. I'm calling it now within 8 months 3080ti for $999 within 5% of the 3090 in gaming performance.

[ronmcdon]

geez at this rate wouldn't be surprised if a 3090ti came out in Dec. Yeah best to wait things out a bit

[Future240]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gi...80-20gb-models

[ronmcdon]

predictably, 3090 sold out everywhere.

[Future240]

Yea. It is a great workstation card for 1000 less than the usual titan. Plus all the hardcore enthusiasts who want the best of the best.

Bet it is going to be the same thing when RDNA2 launches on 10/28.

[SupaDoopa]

Yes, but the 3090 will be available again shortly. The more expensive units with added features should eventually stabilize as being in stock soon. Most will just opt for the Founders or something at the lower end just to obtain it. I planned to get one of the upper tiered units for not only the simulator but also some design work and desktop gaming. Hopefully they're back in stock shortly as predicted.

[ronmcdon]

oh I dont disagree. doesnt make a lot of sense to buy anything right now even if there werent supply issues. I dont plan to get anything anytime soon and dont mind holding on to my 1080ti for another year. a highly oc kingpin 3090 does get my interest for sure.

I think some buyers who jumped on the 3080 now might regret not waiting for the model with higher vram

[zombiewolf513]

Great review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrNmxyEclGk

[Future240]

4 more days until Ryzen 4. Who else is pumped??

I am waiting to see what they come out with to decide on my new build. The 4790K is good and all but it is majorly showing its age.

[ronmcdon]

10600k seems like the sweet spot so far for gaming. if i didn't already have a 8700k would consider that or 10700k

[SupaDoopa]

What are you comparing the Ryzen to? I haven't done much research in comparison to the 3000-series. I am a sheep and just plan to flex and get the 3090 and be good for a couple years in my stupid gaming PC for the sim/other silly tasks.

[Future240]

Agreed on 10600k, however I want to "future proof" a bit and get more cores.

On Ryzen 4 it depends. Im looking at the 4700X. If at 1440p it can be within 5-7% of the 10700K then that is what I will go with.

[Future240]

https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/8/2...e-release-date

Available 11/5

MD RYZEN 5000 ZEN 3 CPUS
Model Cores/ Threads TDP (Watts) Boost / Base Frequency (GHz) Cache (MB) Price
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16C/32T 105W Up to 4.9 / 3.4 GHz 72 $799
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12C/24T 105W Up to 4.8 / 3.7 GHz 70 $549
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8C/16T 105W Up to 4.7 / 3.8 GHz 36 $449
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6C/12T 65W Up to 4.6 / 3.7 GHz 35 $299

also

Rocket Lake 1st quarter next year

https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/7/2...rs-q1-2021-amd

[ronmcdon]

must be a typo when they say 12 core, 32 threads. looking forwards to reviews if amd claims it being the best gaming cpu

[Future240]

Gents

I am a COLOSSAL idiot.

Built the current machine in 2017.

I just realized now that my ram was only running at 1333mhz instead of 1866.

The gaming gains are rather noticeable


sidenote: I am still calling BS till I see hard proof. The fact they only teased three games IMO means the big navi is doa.


edit: this seems more like it
https://www.techpowerup.com/273150/a...omparable-gpus

[BOROSUN]

pretty much rip intel

[ronmcdon]

Originally Posted by Future240

sidenote: I am still calling BS till I see hard proof. The fact they only teased three games IMO means the big navi is doa.

edit: this seems more like it
https://www.techpowerup.com/273150/a...omparable-gpus

it's not unreasonable either & I think it's great news if that's case. I've always gotten the vague sense nvidia does better with dx11 vs dx12.

I'm with said reviewer much of this will come down to price, value and supply issues (Nvidia and/or samsung did botch). this is great news as finally amd is giving nvidia competition with enthusiast grade gpu and this not some vega or radeon 7 gpu that only amd fanboys rally behind. If this were not to happen, you might see Nvidia get complacent again.

wish I could find that article that I read Nvidia might be going switching back to TSMC after disappointing yields from Samsung. More speculation maybe but sounds plausible to me;
https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/10...-7-nm-process/

Might be worthwhile to hold on to that 1080ti for another year.

[Future240]

Eh. The 3080 legitimately is a huge performance increase from a 1080ti.

Seeing as the 3070 will be similar and/or faster than a 2080ti the 1080ti will basically become a midrange card.

[Future240]

Eh. The 3080 legitimately is a huge performance increase from a 1080ti.

Seeing as the 3070 will be similar and/or faster than a 2080ti the 1080ti will basically become a midrange card.

[ronmcdon]

3080 is an improvement for sure over the 1080ti. That being said my 1080ti still holding out pretty well on widescreen 3440x1440 monitor with higher settings and getting around 50fps with a lot of games still. Not quite convinced 3080/3090 and maybe big navi quite there with 4k gaming around 100fps.

if nvidia goes tsmc 7nm in '21 or '22 optimistic there will be good gains. also curious to wait out ryzen 5900x and rocket lake performance in a couple of months. I think it's more interesting to wait out at least until summer of next year.

[Future240]

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

3080 is an improvement for sure over the 1080ti. That being said my 1080ti still holding out pretty well on widescreen 3440x1440 monitor with higher settings and getting around 50fps with a lot of games still. Not quite convinced 3080/3090 and maybe big navi quite there with 4k gaming around 100fps.

if nvidia goes tsmc 7nm in '21 or '22 optimistic there will be good gains. also curious to wait out ryzen 5900x and rocket lake performance in a couple of months. I think it's more interesting to wait out at least until summer of next year.

That is my problem right there. I have a 1440p 144hz monitor. I want 100+ fps. 1080ti cannot do that on AAA titles with highest settings.

Rocket lake is a weird one. Rumored to be 10nm or 14nm but slot into existing mobo. I personally think it will end up being like the 4770K vs the 4790K. Same thing but a bit more refined.

Once benchmarks are out for ryzen, I will decide if I am doing team red or team blue build.

[ronmcdon]

Yeah with 1440p resolution gaming, 3080 w/ a 5900x should get great fps. No plans to upgrade ultrawide?

[Future240]

Not right now. My monitor is 27" ips and looks great. It suits my tastes for now.

[Future240]

Naw. The Asus is 27" and ips. It is more than enough for right now.

[Future240]

Threw a new intel build list for gits n shiggles.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($377.77 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X63 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.85 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($111.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB Founders Edition Video Card
Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G1+ 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($189.94 @ Office Depot)
Total: $1249.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-16 11:27 EDT-0400

For some reason gpu price not showing up so really would be 1849.

[ronmcdon]

thats a fun site. nice build for under 2k. maybe only thing I'd do different is taking a chance with the samsung 980 pro 1 or 2tb