The Future Automotive Thread

[exitspeed]

Those all sound like garbage, timid excuses. It’s sounds exactly like the type of excuses that got Nissan into the situation it’s in right now; a struggling brand with no soul or identity. Top to bottom both Nissan and Infiniti are the epitome of mediocrity. They’re like the 90’s Kia and Hyundai.

This decision was THE decision that soured me on the brand and the start of truly tarnishing it’s legacy with enthusiasts.

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Those all sound like garbage, timid excuses. It’s sounds exactly like the type of excuses that got Nissan into the situation it’s in right now; a struggling brand with no soul or identity. Top to bottom both Nissan and Infiniti are the epitome of mediocrity. They’re like the 90’s Kia and Hyundai.

This decision was THE decision that soured me on the brand and the start of truly tarnishing it’s legacy with enthusiasts.

And now I drive a Ford! lol need more be said?

Oh Nissan Oh Nissan what have you done.
You went and killed Datsun to so much confusion
Got a Frenchman to run the company
to bring it back from near bankruptcy
but you gave him to much leniency
and he drove you into mediocrity
Oh Nissan Oh Nissan what have you done.

[dorkidori_s13]

i just saw a thing on FB from like one of those car publications that said "10 of the cheapest sports cars to buy in 2019" and the 370z was the cover photo... and thought to myself

"wow look, its the 370z... isnt that thing older than the 240sx now?"

[ronmcdon]

370z can only grown in appeal at this point. Stuff like hydraulic steering, hand brake, having a manual tranny, lack of tech, no 20 inch wheels, it not being a coupe suv only makes it stand out more in todays market. it will be the most amazing new car you can buy in 2030 if it stays the same and the auto market moving forwards the way it does today.

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

370z can only grown in appeal at this point. Stuff like hydraulic steering, hand brake, having a manual tranny, lack of tech, no 20 inch wheels, it not being a coupe suv only makes it stand out more in todays market. it will be the most amazing new car you can buy in 2030 if it stays the same and the auto market moving forwards the way it does today.

Stranger than Fiction and quite true.

[ronmcdon]

speaking of which it would seem now and the next few years are going to be pretty great for importing japanese cars.

sucks that nissan and japanese carmakers dont deliver today and the future being so bleak. I’m sorta ok with that as theres going to be a lot more import choices. i imagine silvia s14s and r33’s are at least obtainable. I myself will definitely be eyeing some fd rx7s if they’re a better deal than domestic used and also the evo 3-4’s.

https://jalopnik.com/we-have-reached...1820776253/amp

[Future240]

Too bad some many S-chassis have been chopped up and gutted for their SR’s....

[Dutchmalmiss]

Originally Posted by Future240

Too bad some many S-chassis have been chopped up and gutted for their SR’s....

Seriously. I wonder if there is a stat out there for number of front clips exported out of Japan.

If it weren't for CA laws, I'd be chasing down an S15 right now.

[TheRealSy90]

Man, the world would be so different if Nissan had made the IDX.

[S14rebuild]

Shit looks ugly^ but atleast nissan would have something out there new.

Just never had intrest in any new rwd, manual trans car. Had an opt to get a new 86 or frs, passed it up for a corolla and kept the s14 for the fun stuff. That was back in like 2013(i think). Even now nothing catches my intrested. Stick with s-chassis or even evo 7 or 8

[exitspeed]

IDX is truly the last sports car concept I’ve been excited about.

[cured13]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

IDX is truly the last sports car concept I’ve been excited about.

I quess we all know that plus you have a lot of spare time lol, and honestly nobody will ever pay more for that than Sentra SER today's ($)equivalent.

We all need new "s" chassis car.

[ronmcdon]

I think it if the miata and 86 could ask for 26-35k (or whatever they go for these days) the IDX could have also as long as it measured up. One of the problems I anticipate is that Nissan won't be bothered or can't afford to update it, making less competitive to the miata and 86 in time.

Personally not a fan of the look either aside from the smaller dimensions, but I'd appreciate it for the sake of providing more competition to its market segment even though I'm not sure it's even relevant today. Regardless can't hurt to have more choices.

Kinda think complaining about Nissan today is beating a dead horse. Have to ask yourself if you want to move on at some point or continue ruminating for no good reason. Much rather celebrate their past.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by cured13

I quess we all know that plus you have a lot of spare time lol, and honestly nobody will ever pay more for that than Sentra SER today's ($)equivalent.

We all need new "s" chassis car.

No idea what the amount of spare time I have on my hands has to do with this conversation. Lol

I’d pay 86 money for IDX right now. If Nissan released a legit competitive IDX I’d 100% be the first one to have one in WI.

[exitspeed]

Have you guys seen this dudes render? Pretty dope. If only Nissan would go all out like this. I’d be in.




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[S14rebuild]

Front looks like frs/86ish to me

But that rendering is appealing to me

[deolio]

pretty sure another z is second from the top on the list of cars nissan shouldn't produce, just behind the convertible murano...

[exitspeed]

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-50964040

This is just crazy. Ghost is now a damn fugitive! Wow.

[ronmcdon]

that was hilarious, Ghosn escaping in a piano case.

[Future240]

Dang hahahaha. I cannot believe Ghosn escaped Japan.

[Corbic]

Nissan is hard up right now. Massive layoffs and cost cutting. I don't foresee a new GTR or Z35 any time soon.

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[Corbic]

Originally Posted by Future240

Dang hahahaha. I cannot believe Ghosn escaped Japan.

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

that was hilarious, Ghosn escaping in a piano case.

Originally Posted by exitspeed

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-50964040

This is just crazy. Ghost is now a damn fugitive! Wow.

I'm sure the guy is crooked and guilty.. But as an American, WTF Japan!?

Dude was arrested and charged in 2018, had been under house arrest with no access to the outside world and can't see his wife.

Then the Japanese delay the trial another year to May 2021? Clearly there is no mandate for a "speedy trial".

Guilty or not, I can see why the guy feels he's being rail road by a pissed off and proud-to-a-fault country. Let's not forget all the sneaky illegal shit Sony, DENSO and Takata have done recently.




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[Future240]

It's their fault for building shitty cars. I wouldn't touch an Nissan with that cvt.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by Future240

It's their fault for building shitty cars. I wouldn't touch an Nissan with that cvt.

I wouldn't touch anything with a CVT. Such a POS design/concept.



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[ronmcdon]

Apprently interpol is after Ghosn. I'm not sure he's innocent either, but I can't say I'd trust the Japanese if I were in his shoes.

“I am now in Lebanon and will no longer be held hostage by a rigged Japanese justice system where guilt is presumed, discrimination is rampant, and basic human rights are denied,”

https://jalopnik.com/interpol-wants-...ove-1840562039

[Dutchmalmiss]

Wow this looks like a string lots of people, important people, may start pulling on.

Nevertheless, fuck Nissan still haha.

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

Apprently interpol is after Ghosn. I'm not sure he's innocent either, but I can't say I'd trust the Japanese if I were in his shoes.

“I am now in Lebanon and will no longer be held hostage by a rigged Japanese justice system where guilt is presumed, discrimination is rampant, and basic human rights are denied,”

https://jalopnik.com/interpol-wants-...ove-1840562039

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

Apprently interpol is after Ghosn. I'm not sure he's innocent either, but I can't say I'd trust the Japanese if I were in his shoes.

“I am now in Lebanon and will no longer be held hostage by a rigged Japanese justice system where guilt is presumed, discrimination is rampant, and basic human rights are denied,”

https://jalopnik.com/interpol-wants-...ove-1840562039

He's in Lebanon, they won't allow him to be extradited. It's his home country and he's well connected there.

Goshen is the poster child of corporate corruption and its a bad reflection on Nissan, France and the Japanese for letting him stay in charge as long as he did.

His early efforts to clean up Nissan where good, but Nissan has been stagnant since 2008, that's over a decade.

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[ronmcdon]

Yeah I dont blame him. I can barely tolerate staying in Japan more than a week. Id probably take my chances in a US prison instead. I believe him when he says theres discrimination.

[Future240]

[BOROSUN]

Originally Posted by Future240

lol how old is this kid? 240sx was a flop. 300zx was a flop.