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Old 12-10-2018, 01:49 AM   #301
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I love you Dario haha. Although I am partially guilty of some things you mentioned, I am slowly getting out of this whole Instagram thing. Maybe I am becoming an old grumpy asshole.
I don't know which aforementioned things you're guilty of...but don't worry because becoming an OGA is great. Not really, but maybe? No it kind of sucks but it's fun sometimes.

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1.) ...the kids on Facebook who are literally a 5min google search away from the answer they seek on these s-chassis related groups. If you want to have some fun tell those kids to stop being lazy and search. Then all the crybabies come out of the woodwork with all their butthurt. Thatís a good time.

2.) I remember buying my first S13 15yrs ago when forums were young and fun. And you didnít dare ask a question that had already been covered.
1.) Yeah man. It's like telling them to do the footwork is a fucking sin punishable by being banned on a forum/Facebook page. Even if you try to be a 'nice' asshole they just drop the "iN tHe TiMe U tOOk 2 RoAsT mE, U CouLDa JuSs AnSwEReD"

That's true, but it doesn't negate the fact that you're fucking lazy.

2.) Dude yes. Even recently I've gotten super lazy with my cars. I still don't come here to post questions when I feel like a lazy piece of shit.

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...so is TAS. SpeedHunters does a decent job of making everyone think it's 'all about passion' and 'love of the craft' but it's mostly shitty trends just like SEMA.


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Juucso being positive, even when pointing out negative aspects of this community.
Juucso I wish I could be as positive as you...but then my car would probably belong on the cover of Need For Speed.

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Old 12-10-2018, 03:46 AM   #303
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I never had instagram. Guess im grumpier and likely younger than most of you. Lets fuck and fight.
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Old 12-10-2018, 05:50 AM   #304
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Your kouki was so good. It’s no surprise that your cars since have been just as clean.
Honestly, based on the “turboshoebox” name, I was really hoping you’d have some sort of crazy turbocharged shoebox Ford somewhere among the fleet. Lol
Ah lol that would be me, lol and I’d be damned if I did not say the little fucker is a beast. Never thought I would fall for a Hot Hatch but my FiST is not to be messed with, lol.

No S13 in the fold right now. If I found the right clean one I might buy it, big if there.

Do plan on dumping the M3 in favor of getting back into S30’s a long overdue desire.

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1.) I don't think it was ever like that for me. When I came to this forum with pictures of my first S13, I posted in the wrong spot and got the usual response. I didn't argue, I didn't call anyone an asshole, I made a joke and moved on. I just think it's how people are raised: if you want to become a member of a community you take your lumps (in stride) and try to be a good person...not a self-righteous cunt who wants to post shit in all the wrong sections because 'rules are antiquated' or whatever. I'm 29 and work with a ton of young people in the military. The vast majority are entitled little shits. It might be a generation thing. I get it, people my age are still considered millennials but I'd argue that this shit start with people my younger brother's age (currently 23).

2.) I've gotten super savvy with unfollowing people that have cool cars but just seem...hollow to me. The kid with the white hatch that's always on jackstands is always posting the same picture at the same angle. Some Florida dudes put bronze TEs on a hatch and it's like the second coming of Jesus. Other kids call people out for being hypebeasts and then go through 3-4 DIFFERENT cars (S14, S14, and now the new hotness: JZs) in a year with the same AVS wheels on each different car. Where's the love? You're telling me these dudes posting this pictures with veritable PARAGRAPHS worth of hasthtags really just love their cars? Really? I don't think anyone would do this shit if they just loved their cars.

In a lot of ways it's not so much them, but the people in their comments that get to me.

3.) I feel like this has already happened.

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- People selling S15 shit in the marketplace are either stupid as fuck or trying to rip people off. It seems like the term 'S15' is always accompanied by 'SpecR' and any moron can tell you that the fucking cars are all the same besides the motor. So a steering wheel is a steering wheel, not a SpecR steering wheel. For fuck's sake.

- StanceNation dudebro's car. Is anyone else sick of seeing it or is it just me? When you're connected in the car industry is it really that astounding to see a clean car on Work wheels when you have connects at Work?

- Dickriding on IG stories. Fuck dude all I see in IG stories are other people's cars nowadays. We've moved from slanging our own cocks to slanging everyone else's'.

- ...parts/wheel/car prices. It's always a razor's edge thing with me: feel like I owe someone the service of telling them shit is marked drastically up or keep my mouth shut and hope to profit when I need to make some extra cash fast.
1. Sounds like you were the 2%, Kudos. I tried to listen to adults within reason but I certainly didn't listen to all of them. Plenty of adults are morons, too. I really don't think it's a generational thing but more prevalent in the hormonal and curious youth. Entitlement is like racism, you usually get it from your relatives.

2. I kinda bounce around with cars but i'm also a car salesman by profession, so it's a little different for me. I meet a lot of people who always want a sick build but find some arbitrary obstacle and just sell the car for someone else to neglect it further. It's really ironic when it's a 240 kid talking about messed up frame rails when they're gonna get another 240 and ruin the frame rails anyways. Just run the shit. There are also some people who just want to try out a bunch of different platforms and find the one right for them. I can respect that.

3. Tru


Elvis s13 is chill. I think you just don't like anything hyped because other people like it lol. I don't see what Work has to do with it, they ask for the make/model for any set ordered to verify they'd fit. So it's not like he gets some special spec treatment.

Dickriding on IG is crazy. I barely post anymore besides sales promotions and memes on my story. I lost almost 3k followers when I sold my s2000 lol

Parts prices are funny to me. Nismo mounts went up so much from when I got my first set. But it's supply and demand. Imported wheel prices went down and now they're picking up. Cerb 1/2 in JP used to go for pennies and even those went up double, so they go for nickels now lol.

Speaking about cerbs, I find it funny you're complaining about people running cool/kinda rare wheels when there are people out there running ugly ass cerberus*, painting their VSKF faces white, and people running XXR still. I mean, neither of us are right or wrong, it's all opinion based...


*I ran a set for a month while waiting on a set of Rotiforms to come in
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my grumpy rant

People can't keep their word for shit anymore. I lost $400 the other day when I had to replace some parts on a used suspension setup I sold, but I already accepted the money and gave my word i'd send the parts out. My word is worth way more than $400, so risking my reputation for that amount would be pointless. The parts weren't even mine, they were off my mom's fucking car. But I kept my word.


I've had soooooooooo many people flake on me in the past few months because someone "randomly" came by and offered em a little more for the part before I could get there, or i'd be on the way and/or make plans to go buy a car and some bullshit would come up. If you give your word, fucking stick to it. Otherwise it isn't worth shit, just like you. Don't say things you don't mean. It's a very simple premise.

I had my friend's dickhead roomie come at night to buy a bolt in roll cage out of a car, didn't even have the shit listed for sale yet, had the car 24hrs. I had a date with a hot big titty goth chick I blew off for him. We rip out my sparco seats, unbolt the cage, and we couldn't get one of the arms loose. barely really did shit to get it out besides bang on it. I go grab a torch and the fucker throws in the towel and says he's over it and going home. He puts the roll cage down and bounces with all the tools. Doesn't even offer help to put the cage back in or at least help me bolt in 1 of the damn seats so I can move the fucking car. I didn't say a word about it. Whatever, cool. I'll remember that dude.

Oh yeah, he offered me $500 (HIS offer) and then tried to give me $400 when he arrived with his friends. Then his boys tried to jump into the negotiation. Wanna piss off a brown guy? Bring 3 dudes to negotiate 1 fucking deal. I honestly would have done $400 if he didn't put a bad taste in my mouth off gate. Plus, I turned down pussy. I need that $100 for an escort later, dickhead.

Long story short, he's cool I guess but I wouldn't even sell him a bottle of piss after that transaction. I forgive but don't forget.
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^LOL good times, man I hear you tho, people talking out of their ass, I mean there's nothing wrong with saying hey it's not gonna work out, thanks for your time. It's the people who dick you around and waste your time. Have some balls, tell the truth and keep your word or don't say anything!!
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Attend local meet. See a bunch of newer model cars (aka BLAND) modified. Finally see a super clean FC and AE86 roll in. OG guys flock to the clean 80's-90's chassis, discuss the trash in the parking lot and talk about how the 90's Japanese tuner cars will never be equaled. Kids in the lot glance at the cars and move on to the slammed/stanced/bagged cars.

I would like to think its because kids in the "scene" do not have taste but perhaps its because I am now that old guy in the lot who is stuck on the classics.
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I don't mind younger kids being into different things. Everyone's going to have different taste when it comes to cars. I CAN NOT stand how fucking cheap everyone is these days though. All the OG's pay asking price and all the new 240 owners want to low ball 50% off asking price. Shit is annoying as fuck.
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I had my friend's dickhead roomie come at night to buy a bolt in roll cage out of a car, didn't even have the shit listed for sale yet, had the car 24hrs. I had a date with a hot big titty goth chick I blew off for him. We rip out my sparco seats, unbolt the cage, and we couldn't get one of the arms loose. barely really did shit to get it out besides bang on it. I go grab a torch and the fucker throws in the towel and says he's over it and going home. He puts the roll cage down and bounces with all the tools. Doesn't even offer help to put the cage back in or at least help me bolt in 1 of the damn seats so I can move the fucking car. I didn't say a word about it. Whatever, cool. I'll remember that dude.

Oh yeah, he offered me $500 (HIS offer) and then tried to give me $400 when he arrived with his friends. Then his boys tried to jump into the negotiation. Wanna piss off a brown guy? Bring 3 dudes to negotiate 1 fucking deal. I honestly would have done $400 if he didn't put a bad taste in my mouth off gate. Plus, I turned down pussy. I need that $100 for an escort later, dickhead.
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Attend local meet. See a bunch of newer model cars (aka BLAND) modified. Finally see a super clean FC and AE86 roll in. OG guys flock to the clean 80's-90's chassis, discuss the trash in the parking lot and talk about how the 90's Japanese tuner cars will never be equaled. Kids in the lot glance at the cars and move on to the slammed/stanced/bagged cars.

I would like to think its because kids in the "scene" do not have taste but perhaps its because I am now that old guy in the lot who is stuck on the classics.
Same thing happened to me. I stopped going to those meets. I now have fallen into the Cars and Coffee stuff, you know, old guy meets.
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I don't mind younger kids being into different things. Everyone's going to have different taste when it comes to cars. I CAN NOT stand how fucking cheap everyone is these days though. All the OG's pay asking price and all the new 240 owners want to low ball 50% off asking price. Shit is annoying as fuck.
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Same thing happened to me. I stopped going to those meets. I now have fallen into the Cars and Coffee stuff, you know, old guy meets.
Agreed. These meets have been a nice refuge from the import shows I used to attend.
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Like it would be nice to find a solid group of guys that genuinely have a passion for these shitty Japanese cars. Like i don't see myself getting rid of my 240 anytime, i've had it almost 10 years and i don't think any young lad with any price tag could get me to sell it.
I have way too much money into my 240, but I'll admit that everything has a price. If someone offered me $20k for my car, best believe that thing is getting sold before they finish the sentence. Whether its worth $20k is a subject that everyone would love to argue about, especially in this thread LOL
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I CAN NOT stand how fucking cheap everyone is these days though. All the OG's pay asking price and all the new 240 owners want to low ball 50% off asking price. Shit is annoying as fuck.
Cheap to buy, fucking mark-up-masters when they sell. I always price things to sell at about $100 - $200 off the going rate and I still make a little money for my time.

I'm happy I have 2 sets of LMGT4s because with the way the prices are going I'll be able to retire when I sell them. /sarcasm.

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I have way too much money into my 240, but I'll admit that everything has a price. If someone offered me $20k for my car, best believe that thing is getting sold before they finish the sentence. Whether its worth $20k is a subject that everyone would love to argue about, especially in this thread LOL
Dude I have the same thought process with my Type X. I've always wanted it, it's the car everyone replicates, but I really should've stepped into a SpecR before the inevitable price bubble. That being said, I honestly feel like my car in particular will see a price hike and I'm holding out for a payday north of what my initial cost was....but if someone comes knocking you best believe I'm answering.
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Also cars & coffee sucks. So boring.
Yeah I mean I'm getting stuff for less out here in Japan but I'm meeting (or beating by like $200) the going rate. I just don't want to contribute to the fucking inflation. TEs are like $2300 right now and LMGT4s are about $2800. I don't want to deal with the prices getting more gnarly than that. Most motherfuckers can't be bothered to translate on YAJ but they sure as hell can type in '9j +22' to search.

I've never been to Cars & Coffee, but I AM from California. We have the highest concentration of fuckboys next to FL. The difference in tone is probably a huge relief.
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Yeah I mean I'm getting stuff for less out here in Japan but I'm meeting (or beating by like $200) the going rate. I just don't want to contribute to the fucking inflation. TEs are like $2300 right now and LMGT4s are about $2800. I don't want to deal with the prices getting more gnarly than that. Most motherfuckers can't be bothered to translate on YAJ but they sure as hell can type in '9j +22' to search.

I've never been to Cars & Coffee, but I AM from California. We have the highest concentration of fuckboys next to FL. The difference in tone is probably a huge relief.
I think TE's and LMGT4's will always stay inflated because of the limited amount that are in circulation. Look how flooded the 3pc market has gotten, those rims are pretty affordable now.
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I have way too much money into my 240, but I'll admit that everything has a price. If someone offered me $20k for my car, best believe that thing is getting sold before they finish the sentence. Whether its worth $20k is a subject that everyone would love to argue about, especially in this thread LOL
I mean i would have to agree that everything has a price. But i would most likely cry like a little girl seeing my car drive away.

And by going off what scottie said, im in Cali for a few months and deciding to see as much of the "car scene" as possible, especially low riders(fucking love the paint). I went to a show called clean culture over the weekend and oh my god.... only saw like two 240s that worth a dam. I drove my JZX90 (illas 90 from team proceed) to the show and so many people were freaking out saying it was the best car there. At that moment, i knew people have lost taste and what they consider clean or whatever. Maybe its the JDM hype or what but like holy dick strokers.

AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY I DONT CARE FOR SHOWS.....two stepping comps are the dumbest thing i have ever witnessed. I now have cancer.
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I mean i would have to agree that everything has a price. But i would most likely cry like a little girl seeing my car drive away.

And by going off what scottie said, im in Cali for a few months and deciding to see as much of the "car scene" as possible, especially low riders(fucking love the paint). I went to a show called clean culture over the weekend and oh my god.... only saw like two 240s that worth a dam. I drove my JZX90 (illas 90 from team proceed) to the show and so many people were freaking out saying it was the best car there. At that moment, i knew people have lost taste and what they consider clean or whatever. Maybe its the JDM hype or what but like holy dick strokers.

AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY I DONT CARE FOR SHOWS.....two stepping comps are the dumbest thing i have ever witnessed. I now have cancer.
I would too, but I know exactly what car will replace it and it will bring back a smile to my face.

And the shows, yea fuck that. I had to google Clean Culture, it already sounds like a trendy Instagram shit show. Wheels and Coils on a FR-S and its "built" LOL
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I def hear you guys on the scene. I’m old enough to be most 240 kids Dad lol. Been hosting SChassis & Skyline meets for over 15 years here in Miami but I do it invite only, nothing posted online, so everyone behaves & always has a great time. Never had one broken up by cops, nobody does stupid stuff. We just park, pop our hoods, talk about our mods, then go for a spirited cruise or caravan to the track. Good times.

Selling stuff? Why bother, to get lowballed? Rather keep it as a paperweight than sell for what these kids try to offer. Rather sell to mature adults that have the money. Children have empty wallets & lots of free time to lowball.
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At that moment, i knew people have lost taste and what they consider clean or whatever. Maybe its the JDM hype or what but like holy dick strokers.
This is everyone that has a JZX chassis now. The kid that had the cherry red S13 on white LMGT4s is a good example. He seems super nice, his S13 was the shit, then he sells it for a JZX90 on shit-fitting wheels? If you're telling me he went from an S13 with a TON of work into it to an essentially stock (do wheels and suspension count? It's the norm to me) JZX90 for the fuck of it? Or was it for IG traffic? I swear man so many of these kids bother to take the time to hunt, restore, then use the cool shit we all like only to sell the car when it's done...and they never pick some obscure shit as the next car. It's always something that's poppin'.


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This is true, but the price should cap at about $2800 in my honest opinion. I paid more for the silver ones than the bronze ones, but that still hurt me to spend the money...IN FUCKING JAPAN. They're watching us, and every time some cunt like BSpliner sells some shit they notice and mark-up accordingly. That's why I try to match the 'normal' price and beat it by a couple of hundred or so. If I REALLY like the buyer I'll even ask less, but I'm NOT making a fucking killing just to buy some tight-fitting, acid washed jeans.


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Yeah man I'm sick of the Elvis shit. The default argument is always 'you're jealous' but I could give two fucks. I honestly wouldn't trade my NA/auto coupe for his turbo'd/manual K's. It's the dickriding aspect that kills me.

If you're into this sort of shit, you can look up studies about how desensitized we're all becoming. You can click to 'like' something in an instant without really thinking of why (or if you actually do) like something. It's like diarrhea: shit just flows from your thumbs instead.


...as a side note, I really enjoy how we can come in here and just be Grumpy Assholes without going for each others' throats. This is the kind of debating I like to do: respectfully disagreeing and not getting sand in our vaginas, even though they're irritated enough for us to be here.
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My beef is the wheels I want don't even seem to come up for sale in Japan. I've been searching for over a year for two sets of wheels.

As of right now, I have three wheels total.
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My beef is the wheels I want don't even seem to come up for sale in Japan. I've been searching for over a year for two sets of wheels.

As of right now, I have three wheels total.


Same problem. I ended up buying 3 pairs from 3 different countries.

The partouts are really fucking this up.
1. Buy $500 non title 240.
2. Sell ďmintĒ door panels for $375
3. Sell cloth seats for $200
4. Profit.

Itís honestly just sad anymore. Itís like the wannabe ďgood guy part importersĒ on Instagram and shit are doing me a favor by riding the wave. This isnít an American classic car that you can sit there and ask for $3500 for a gauge cluster that you donít even know if it works.


I am just hoarding parts for the long game. I agree with the idea of keeping it as a paperweight instead of selling to some lowballing kid. If I had to get rid of it, Iíd part it out instead of selling it to one person, just for the fact that I donít want anyone else to have it.


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My beef is the wheels I want don't even seem to come up for sale in Japan. I've been searching for over a year for two sets of wheels.

As of right now, I have three wheels total.
So many people got in the wheel reselling business that you basically have to buy what you want from a third party these days if you want used stuff. IMO, wheel prices should be tied to quality first, then their rarity. For example, as nice as TEís are, & I do think they are a great versatile wheel, with so many sets in so many variations I just donít get how the used market stays so high with them.
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Elvis-- overhyped? Yes. I follow him on ig but I don't really keep up with him. I think he's a much better influence on these kids than a lot of the other popular people out there. At least he uses authentic parts. It's hilarious to me how many questions he gets on his AMA's, people really fucking idolize him.

Car "meet" scene is screwed where I am. I know a lot of people with really cool cars who won't take them out because of all the mishaps we've been having at our Friday night meets. Fights, getting kicked out of basically every spot we had repeatedly, a car caught on fire in a parking deck cause of a shitty stereo install, etc. Nowadays it's just a bunch of bolt on Z's, corvettes, n54 cars, etc. who go to MeXiCo and race...or cars with more stickers than mods. I know a few people with r34 gtr/supra/etc. who might bust theirs out and meet up if I tell them i'm going or if they want to take advantage of some good weather. Car shows are actually decent, some people bring out their toys, but there's obviously tons of BS too and it really depends on who is throwing the event. The track events by me are okay but I don't even really want to get into it, I don't have enough room to talk.



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Just say "maybe" or "we will see" lol. At the end of the day a lot of the shit just makes me laugh. You have to be diligent if you want to buy/sell shit from people.

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So many people got in the wheel reselling business that you basically have to buy what you want from a third party these days if you want used stuff. IMO, wheel prices should be tied to quality first, then their rarity. For example, as nice as TEís are, & I do think they are a great versatile wheel, with so many sets in so many variations I just donít get how the used market stays so high with them.
Dickriders.

If you've ever owned a set of OG finish, ANODIZED TEs (or LMs) you know it fucking sucks. Cleaning them sucks, everything eats away at the finish, and they get hazy over time...oh and Rays still keeps the paint code secret so there's virtually no saving them unless you get them fully redone. This is why Bulletproof Automotive is going to make a killing refinishing wheels in their version of the OG finish.
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Dickriders.

If you've ever owned a set of OG finish, ANODIZED TEs (or LMs) you know it fucking sucks. Cleaning them sucks, everything eats away at the finish, and they get hazy over time...oh and Rays still keeps the paint code secret so there's virtually no saving them unless you get them fully redone. This is why Bulletproof Automotive is going to make a killing refinishing wheels in their version of the OG finish.
Never owned a set of TE’s but I do have a set of WORK Equip 01’s in the 18” Five Star pattern so I know what a PITA it is to keep their finish in good shape. I try my best to keep them clean.
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