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Old 11-07-2009, 09:49 AM   #121
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Man i cant wait to get a roll bar in my Z!!
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:56 AM   #122
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aside from that mustang getting messed up, anybody have more information regarding the reinforcement? pictures would be nice as well.
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:21 PM   #123
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Usually its 6"x"6x .120" plate at all chassis mounting points on a unibody car. Ive seen smaller plates for the support bars but on the hoop the 6x6 is good.

Also in the case of that mustang, or in any car that went front end over on the roof. That is about the worst way to flip a car. I wouldn't be suprised if even a 4 or 6 point weld in would have done the same thing. The force of the car on 4 or 6 points just isnt going to hold up to the sheet metal floor.
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Old 11-27-2009, 06:25 PM   #124
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My cage all bolted up...Will switch to Full welded cage once i make it my track car.



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damn! how bad is the rear visibility on that lol. it probably won't matter since you're gonna make it a track car, but still hah.

paint on it looks great btw
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Old 11-27-2009, 07:48 PM   #126
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yes its a through dash.

no but i can get you some. ill take pics 2morrow and send them to you.
Superior S14, I'd be interested in some pics as well, please.

So even with all the bolt-together joints, the Safety 21/Cusco 6+ pt. cages add a significant amount of rigidity to the chassis? Well, I guess anything would make these flexy hatches feel better...

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Old 11-28-2009, 02:13 AM   #128
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Here is the view from the rearview mirror

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Old 12-30-2009, 11:43 AM   #129
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Quesiton for all you who have roll cages

Hey will the cusco roll (or godspeed) cage fit even with my three guage pod on the pillar? I dont like the look when the pods are on the dash or attached to the cage. If any one has this set up please answer or post pictures.

Info. S13 chasis, three autometer guages, ebay full pillar pod. I tried search, and tried to google pictures (no luck) sorry.
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Old 12-30-2009, 11:46 AM   #130
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People usually mount a pillar gauges to the roll bar since it won't fit
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oh how i'd like a safety21 through dash cagezors
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There was a S14 one for sale here recently.... I don't know if it sold or not.
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Old 12-30-2009, 11:59 AM   #134
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I dont know if it sold or not




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http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/26882...roll-cage.html

maybe....... worth a PM?
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emailed that guy not to long ago, sold already.

I just got a autopower 6 point with door bars for s14 with non sunroof.
I have a sunroof : /

I read somewhere that the sunroof cage fits like dog shit and i got a good price on this one so i just bought it.
I read that i have to cut the tracks out in the back, and take the sunroof motor out too.
Is there anyway i can have the motor there to have it pop up?? I don't care if doesn't go back and forward
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Quesiton for all you who have roll cages

Hey will the cusco roll (or godspeed) cage fit even with my three guage pod on the pillar? I dont like the look when the pods are on the dash or attached to the cage. If any one has this set up please answer or post pictures.

Info. S13 chasis, three autometer guages, ebay full pillar pod. I tried search, and tried to google pictures (no luck) sorry.
nope won't work.

i bough Auto meter's "roll cage gauge pod" there about $30+ there is some STI performance site that sells them for like $23 or so a peice.
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so the bolt-in cage DID work.
Its called a roll bar, not a faceplant bar.

If that car had rolled, instead of flopping over like that i bet ya it would of worked.
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I think some of you are mistaking what "roll" means when some of these cages are being discussed.Its an anti roll cage; as in handling characteristics, not a type of crash. Bolt-ins are fine but the purpose is less of a safety concern as handling.Consider when purchasing. <think about it.

Granted a mustang is a hell of a lot heavier than a 240 same thing prolly woulda happened with a weld in. A cage to keep the roof from caving in on a roll over wreck has got to be beefier than most the cages posted on this thread. A truly independent cage, with proper gussets and bars cut in a manner that keeps them from shearing off and doing more damage. Thats what you need for a roll over, especially at speed.
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anyone got pictures of sunwoofed s14s with cages?
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I think usually cheaper.
Put it in a new car if you crash the old one.
You get the name brand so you can add to your mod-list.
Autopower bolt in cage is around $800-900?. There are people that will do a full NASA cage for around $1000.

Would you really want to reuse a cage from a car that has been in a crash?


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In the picture where the roll bar tubing penetrated the floor boor probably would have happened even with a weld in cage. Even if you would have put on 1/4" steel plate than welded the bar onto it Im still pretty confident that weak unibody flooring would fail with all of the force of the roll over.
I disagree. I would say less than half the force would be applied comparing a roll bar to a full welded cage, or even bolt in cage. A roll bar only has two supporting trusts, where as a cage has 4 attached to the floor. Not to mention, the additional trusts that extend out to the trunk, and other attachments that redistribute the vertical load.
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anyone got pictures of sunwoofed s14s with cages?
yup. wish i could do this too. i don't wanna rip out my headliner/roof.
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yup. wish i could do this too. i don't wanna rip out my headliner/roof.
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If you look anywhere there isn't many companies that make bolt in cages for s14's with sunroofs. Go on any site and look at cusco and saftey21 cages, non of them offer bolt in cages with sunroofs for s14s. They do offer it for s13s though.
From what I searched it looks like autopower is the the only company that makes one for sunroofs and they don't fit to good. The cage sits alot lower and your more likely to bang your head on the cage.

look how close the bar is:


If you don't want/like the autpower one and really want a bolt in cage and keep your sunroof just get someone to build you a custom bolt in. Its gonna be pricey though
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what are the pros and cons of

bolt in cage, and weld in cage, besides it being gangster as fucking possible?
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Weld in - In theory, better quality and safety than a bolt in cage. However, generally more expensive, more "permanent"

Bolt in - Easier to buy and install. Possibility to remove and sell or transfer to a new car. They are, in theory, not as safe as a welded in cage.
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Autopower bolt in cage is around $800-900?. There are people that will do a full NASA cage for around $1000.

Would you really want to reuse a cage from a car that has been in a crash?

Well, Autopower NEVER would even be a considerable option for me. I've seen them. I think they are horrrible.

I would reuse a cage if it fit fine in the car or new car still.
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for the bolt in cages do you drill holes in the car or what how do you install them
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Yes you drill holes where the base plates go.

They give you the bolts and nuts and metal plates to put under the car
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for the bolt in cages do you drill holes in the car or what how do you install them
hot glue or "gorilla" glue

then hold it down for 30 min. its a sticky process
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