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Old 02-19-2014, 01:19 PM   #1681
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I probably do but it's unconsciously so I really can't say.
But for the most part I can feel when I'm getting too much.
Must be very talented to drive while unconscious
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Old 03-15-2014, 05:58 PM   #1682
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This is still funny every time I read it lol
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Old 03-20-2014, 09:55 AM   #1683
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Old 03-21-2014, 05:10 PM   #1684
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I recently started drifting my E93 m3
and found my main trouble is when for example I enter in 2nd with a feint(drifting to the left)
and when I finish the long drift I need to slow and transition into a slower left then swoop right.. that slowdown, into the 2nd turn, maintaining drift is hard for me.
I have the power, but my seems to want to keep following the long/fast drift trajectory...

From what I read so far e-brake is preffered for something like this?
what technique could I use to slow and make that second turn better?
e-brake? clutch kick?
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Old 03-21-2014, 05:23 PM   #1685
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Was that you in that M3 at the Vegas Drift event?
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Old 03-21-2014, 05:28 PM   #1686
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Was that you in that M3 at the Vegas Drift event?
Yea, I drove both mine and my girls cars.
mine was on stock susp. hers had coils, when i switched to hers it helped a lot.. then i got back in mine and did decent the rest of the day.
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Old 03-21-2014, 10:03 PM   #1687
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Brake towards the end of the long drift then use the eBrake for the switch/transition for the slower turn and clutch kick to gets the traction broken again if your too far down in the power band.

Vids of said turn/runs?
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Old 05-05-2014, 09:50 AM   #1688
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Old 05-05-2014, 10:39 PM   #1689
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What kind of diff does the M3 have? If its a helical diff, that might be your issue. By design, it applies more torque to the wheel with more load, which is the outside wheel during a drift, and this naturally wants to make the car straighten out.
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Old 06-04-2015, 08:05 AM   #1690
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down hill drifting...

So I am not new to drifting and have had several setups. Most of are 220-300whp with a good neutral feeling and proper ride height, real lsd, and a 4.6 final drive. I am comfortable dry or wet(favor wet, easier on car and saves tires. Plus I live in the seattle area).

I do most of my drifting at PARC, Evergreen, PGP, Pacific Raceways,and on/off ramps.

My latest venture is down hill. Steep not just on ramps, but steep like you need to know what your doing. I am curious to know some of your feelings and preferences.

I know ALOT of it is mental and commitment. But once you initiate(ebrake) do you let gravity take over(lets say its wet) ? Do you use throttle ? foot brake and ebrake ? Or is it just seat time and being familiar where your driving ?

I am aware there is no single answer.I just want to hear some of your thoughts.
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Old 12-18-2015, 04:50 PM   #1691
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As far as entrances go, why do most drifters over here stick with handbrake entries? I understand if you're going for high speed entries in competition but I'm used to seeing drifters in Australia use Scandinavian flicks and mostly use the handbrake for correcting lines or extending your drift more angle, not so much as a means of entry/initiation.

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Old 12-18-2015, 05:28 PM   #1692
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Because it's easy and predictable. Not very stylish though.
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As far as entrances go, why do most drifters over here stick with handbrake entries? I understand if you're going for high speed entries in competition but I'm used to seeing drifters in Australia use Scandinavian flicks and mostly use the handbrake for correcting lines or extending your drift more angle, not so much as a means of entry/initiation.

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Everybody in the US that does the "scandanavian flick" attempt to initiate ends up making it look like a manji. It slows them down a lot, it's not always a constant entry and it looks bad especially when someone is trying to chase them.
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I never do handbrake entries. I only use it for slowing down and sometimes I need it to link certain corners.
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Old 12-23-2015, 12:31 PM   #1695
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Because it's easy and predictable. Not very stylish though.
This. Its much easier to do consistent entries.
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down hill drifting...

I know ALOT of it is mental and commitment. But once you initiate(ebrake) do you let gravity take over(lets say its wet) ? Do you use throttle ? foot brake and ebrake ? Or is it just seat time and being familiar where your driving ?

I am aware there is no single answer.I just want to hear some of your thoughts.
Have you done the downhill hairpins at Pacific? Iirc I initiated in a similar fashion as most corners but waited a little longer to lay into the power. You still need to use the throttle to push yourself though the end of the corner.

Gravity will keep you sliding initially but you still need to follow through. Also, yes, mental as well. I found myself straying wide most of the time I messed up. Just look through the corner like riding a motorcycle and you should be fine.
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Old 12-30-2015, 11:35 AM   #1697
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Have you done the downhill hairpins at Pacific? Iirc I initiated in a similar fashion as most corners but waited a little longer to lay into the power. You still need to use the throttle to push yourself though the end of the corner.

Gravity will keep you sliding initially but you still need to follow through. Also, yes, mental as well. I found myself straying wide most of the time I messed up. Just look through the corner like riding a motorcycle and you should be fine.
Yea there's an s turn like that on one of the the east coast tracks (summit point, wv) where the second half of the s dips down fairly steep. During the event it took me a while to realize I didnt have to throttle into it to keep the slide going. I was keeping on throttle when I hit the dip and ended up spinning out, repeatedly.

Since I was in the middle of a transistion, the inertia and eventual pull of the downhill gravity gave me enough speed to slide through it without mashing the accelerator. But yea after you need to get on it to stay sideways.

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Have you done the downhill hairpins at Pacific? Iirc I initiated in a similar fashion as most corners but waited a little longer to lay into the power. You still need to use the throttle to push yourself though the end of the corner.

Gravity will keep you sliding initially but you still need to follow through. Also, yes, mental as well. I found myself straying wide most of the time I messed up. Just look through the corner like riding a motorcycle and you should be fine.
Yeah I've done the hairpins at pacific. They are not all that hard or steep. At least for non pro entries. I don't really struggle there. I do grab ebrake, wait a few seconds longer than normal than throttle on as normal. It an odd feeling having the car 4 wheel slide then hook and go like normal. A lot of down hill feels like you initiate, steer, the whole car slides a bit, then power on to finish it out.
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