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Old 03-05-2011, 02:22 AM   #1
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awesome headlights for the pop up lover in you

the main drawback to the pop ups are lighting options. most buy the ebay setup with or without HID, some dish out the cash for the Pegasus lights, and others swap fronts. The non HID ebays have terribly poor lighting while the HID version is responsible for blinding all of us. Pegasus make an excellent product as far as function goes, but they look awkward imo and the $200+ price tag isnt exactly practical. I was stuck using the Kragen Sylvania Silverstar sealed beams until now.

For $100 Hella makes a complete H4 conversion kit which includes a Left and Right headlight with special E Code lenses, two H4 bulbs, and two rubber boots to cover the plugs. *THIS IS NOT HID*

The E Code lenses are specially designed to direct your light output properly to give razor sharp cutoff, excellent performance, and affordability. Below you can visually see how they accomplish this.



Here's a side by side comparison of the Hella's and some Ebay lights. The red lines depict where your light is being directed.



The Ebays are blasting light anywhere and everywhere, where as the Hella's show where cutoff begins, where side to side light is directed, where light illuminates the ground, and on the far right side the light is sent farther and higher to give you sidewalk/bike lane/etc visibility (this does mean you have a Left and Right headlight. Swap the two and your sidewalk vision is now blasted into oncoming traffic so please take this into account)

Hella VS OEM




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Old news.

I had HELLA e codes. Wish I never sold them. -_-
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I had HELLA e codes. Wish I never sold them. -_-



this is for the un-educated.
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Nice!
You can deff see quality!
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You should show people where to buy some for CHEAP.

I'm STILL looking
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You should show people where to buy some for CHEAP.

I'm STILL looking
Could get these instead.

89-94 NISSAN 240SX EURO 200mm H4 H6054 HEADLIGHTS KIT - eBay (item 270381702775 end time Mar-18-11 22:27:34 PDT)

The man wanted cheap. I'm not offering an opinion, just stating a fact that these are cheaper H4 housings.

Personally, I have the Hella H4 housings and a pair of NSX headlights I'm going to use at a later date.
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Old 03-05-2011, 10:49 AM   #7
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^knockoffs.

and you can buy the hella conversion kits for $100 on Amazon/Ebay/Etc.

if they aren't being sold for some reason I can order them from my parts dealer
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what bout these Pegasus?

NorCal MR2 Pegasus Headlight Conversion
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Good info! I like those hella ones.
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yup had hellas since iv had my popups two years strong
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the main drawback to the pop ups are lighting options. most buy the ebay setup with or without HID, some dish out the cash for the Pegasus lights, and others swap fronts. The non HID ebays have terribly poor lighting while the HID version is responsible for blinding all of us. Pegasus make an excellent product as far as function goes, but they look awkward imo and the $200+ price tag isnt exactly practical. I was stuck using the Kragen Sylvania Silverstar sealed beams until now.

For $100 Hella makes a complete H4 conversion kit which includes a Left and Right headlight with special E Code lenses, two H4 bulbs, and two rubber boots to cover the plugs. *THIS IS NOT HID*

The E Code lenses are specially designed to direct your light output properly to give razor sharp cutoff, excellent performance, and affordability. Below you can visually see how they accomplish this.
Here's a side by side comparison of the Hella's and some Ebay lights. The red lines depict where your light is being directed.



The Ebays are blasting light anywhere and everywhere, where as the Hella's show where cutoff begins, where side to side light is directed, where light illuminates the ground, and on the far right side the light is sent farther and higher to give you sidewalk/bike lane/etc visibility (this does mean you have a Left and Right headlight. Swap the two and your sidewalk vision is now blasted into oncoming traffic so please take this into account)

Hella VS OEM

some know about these, some dont. this is for the un-educated.
That pic LOL. now i am educated! Good find as I still have pop ups
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Where can i find the hella lights?
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the main drawback to the pop ups are...
what the fuck is this, a time capsule? did we just enter 1990?


besides the fact that this has been discussed over a million times (mostly by me), your post makes no sense. razor sharp cutoff? is that supposed to mean that you're driving with a superior set of lights, because of the cutoff? nothing else matters other than cutoff? cutoff is only one variable in the list of many that can determine whether or not a light is high quality.

hella has been around forever, they are inexpensive entry-level solutions for the 200mm headlights. the pegasus stuff is garbage. the autopal shit some other tool listed is also garbage. the projector nonsense you are using for comparison is utter SHIT.

if you want better than those shitty hella h4's, buy some cibies from me.. then you can write a review about how wrong you were and how right i am.


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hella lights can be purchased from the nice folks over at Susquehanna MotorSports - High Performance Vehicle Lighting and Competition Accessories

cibie lights can be purchased from this asshole over at ClearCorners.Com > Exotic Automotive Lighting for Show & Race Tuner Applications


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or for ~$200 you could have a bixenon hid projector retrofit that actually performs well, and obviously with bixenon you have high beams.

$120- FX-R bixenon projectors The Retrofit Source online: headlight upgrades for all applications
$40- 4500k D2S hid kit www.ddmtuning.com
$20- ebay clear 4x6 housings
$25- h4 bixenon plug and play wiring harness, also from TRS

example of retrofit: S13 240sx H6054 retrofit. FX-R / Apolo shroud / glass lense

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angel eyes still look best on bmw.... i dunno if pop up 240s can pull it off...
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hey bros, how do i get that sharp as glass cutoff. i need to make it look like i have lights from a 2010 car on my 1993 nissan.
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Where was anybody talking about angel eyes...
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Paying so much for something as trivial as headlights was never an interest of mine..
Both of my 240's rock the 29.99 H4 squares from sonic motor...plenty bright and they look sharp..
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Paying so much for something as trivial as headlights was never an interest of mine..
Both of my 240's rock the 29.99 H4 squares from sonic motor...plenty bright and they look sharp..
When you get into a front end collision because you blinded the shit out of oncoming traffic, we'll see how something trivial like "headlights" really is for you.

I'm buying some Hella e codes tonight to replace the current H4 housings I have right now. I can't take them anymore.
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I did a lot of research and ended up getting Cibie housing and Philips bulb recommended by Daniel Stern(Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply). Hella came very close, but decided to get Cibie.

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if i already have the hella housings, what bulbs do i get?
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or for ~$200 you could have a bixenon hid projector retrofit that actually performs well, and obviously with bixenon you have high beams.

$120- FX-R bixenon projectors The Retrofit Source online: headlight upgrades for all applications
$40- 4500k D2S hid kit www.ddmtuning.com
$20- ebay clear 4x6 housings
$25- h4 bixenon plug and play wiring harness, also from TRS

example of retrofit: S13 240sx H6054 retrofit. FX-R / Apolo shroud / glass lense
thats all fine and dandy if you want something that isnt legal
no offense but all of those parts are made in china. the replicated projectors, the transformer and bulbs, its all cheap stuff. you're basically taking a bunch of lemon products and attempting to make lemonade

also, the pics arent representative of the light output, the photo is over-exposed. no car with factory xenon lights up the road like that, let alone aftermarket.
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thats all fine and dandy if you want something that isnt legal
no offense but all of those parts are made in china. the replicated projectors, the transformer and bulbs, its all cheap stuff. you're basically taking a bunch of lemon products and attempting to make lemonade

also, the pics arent representative of the light output, the photo is over-exposed. no car with factory xenon lights up the road like that, let alone aftermarket.
I was posting an inexpensive option that is affordable to many. Going the oem only route is certainly better and is what I have done with all my personal retrofits.
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or for ~$200 you could have a bixenon hid projector retrofit that actually performs well, and obviously with bixenon you have high beams.

$120- FX-R bixenon projectors The Retrofit Source online: headlight upgrades for all applications
$40- 4500k D2S hid kit www.ddmtuning.com
$20- ebay clear 4x6 housings
$25- h4 bixenon plug and play wiring harness, also from TRS

example of retrofit: S13 240sx H6054 retrofit. FX-R / Apolo shroud / glass lense

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output of FX-R retrofit in a truck


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yeah i agree this thread is done,

if you want to not have cheap parts then rob ballasts projectors from a tsx. its not legal as we know but a near legal and better than cheapassebayblindingontheothersideoftheroad lights
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I did a lot of research and ended up getting Cibie housing and Philips bulb recommended by Daniel Stern(Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply). Hella came very close, but decided to get Cibie.

This actually look pretty good...which Phillips bulb did you buy? Link?
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thats all fine and dandy if you want something that isnt legal
Why isn't this legal?
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Just picked up my Hella DOT ecodes tonight. Can't wait to install them.

I'll be posting up some H4 housings all over the place I have like 2 sets I need to sel.
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