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Old 10-28-2015, 04:56 PM   #361
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Bumping for e85.


I'm going to be staying rubber fuel hose on my setup, doing a flex fuel tune with a GM ethanol sensor wired to my AEM EMS 2.


Walbro 255 in pump, Integrated Engineering Bosch 044 surge tank.

Is the 2005 GMC Savanna fuel filter the best option for 3/8" clamp/line as mentioned in a previous post? Something about needing a filter with stainless media, not a paper one like a z32 filter.


Also, anybody found a good place to buy a drum for storing e85? Closest pump for me is almost 2 hours away, so i'll be having to take a drum and cans there and back to fill it whenever I run out.


Slightly off topic; can a surge tank be mounted either below or above the fuel tank? I haven't found a good place to mount it under the car, leaving me having to mount it in the trunk area. Only qualm with that is the possibility of needing a rear firewall installed...
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Old 10-29-2015, 12:47 PM   #362
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^ I've actually been using an Aeromotive 40 Micron for the past year and a half with zero problems. ALso push fit/push-lock hose with a few small sections of good old regular autozone rubber hose with no problems so far. I honestly believe that in dryer climates such as yours and mine, you won't be needing the crazy filtration that some on the east coast or up north may need.. but either way I'm still swapping to a 10 Micron Filter for this season. I've also stored E85 for up to 4-6 weeks without any problems over this season. All in 5 Gallon fuel jugs.
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Yeah I'm glad about the area I live in, don't have all those moisture worries like the Midwest and north guys have.
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Just wanted to get some feedback as I'm still in the process of learning.

Current set up:

9:0:1 CR
1000cc ID(-6 return / feed)
3076r
Aeromotive intank 340lph

Want to run E85 - only want to push around 500whp+ is that possible?

Thanks
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Just wanted to get some feedback as I'm still in the process of learning.

Current set up:

9:0:1 CR
1000cc ID(-6 return / feed)
3076r
Aeromotive intank 340lph

Want to run E85 - only want to push around 500whp+ is that possible?

Thanks

You Will probably need to turn your base fuel pressure up
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In the process of swapping my 14 to e85. I have historically run a 255 in tank to a bosch 044 in-line. I am going to a Walbro 450 in tank to parallel 044s. What is the deal with wiring up a walbro 450 in tank, how have you guys gone about it? I see that the 450 has a nice sealed connector... but is this necessary or can I just snip the wires and crimp like I have done with the 255s???

Wondering since walbro went to such effort to seal up their electrical connections, is special alcohol resistant wire needed or have you guys got away with solder and heat shrink?

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Just wanted to get some feedback as I'm still in the process of learning.

Current set up:

9:0:1 CR
1000cc ID(-6 return / feed)
3076r
Aeromotive intank 340lph

Want to run E85 - only want to push around 500whp+ is that possible?

Thanks
You will need to up the fuel pressure to 4 bar.

Or you could just get ID 1600CC and be at 500whp.

You are limited with 1000cc, those should max out a little over 400whp, unless you up the fuel pressure.

I just recommend ID 1600cc for the 500whp range.
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I think he means ID 1700's but you can also do ID 1300's

According to Martin of Enthalpy he can push a little over 500 on E85 and ID1000's but you will need to run higher fuel pressure and have the pump and lines to support it.
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1000cc injectors on E85 should be good for around 450.


edit- I am sure people can push it further than that, but I mean- 450 wheel on a SR is pretty nasty
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I think he means ID 1700's but you can also do ID 1300's

According to Martin of Enthalpy he can push a little over 500 on E85 and ID1000's but you will need to run higher fuel pressure and have the pump and lines to support it.
Yes, 1,700cc thanks

But I think Injector DYnamics is developing a 1,600cc version.
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But I think Injector DYnamics is developing a 1,600cc version.

What would be the point?
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Siemens deka have 2400cc flex fuel injectors that are a good price. $170 each.
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What do you mean?
Why would they make a 1600cc injectors when they already have a 1700?
They don't even make them , Bosch does.
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Why would they make a 1600cc injectors when they already have a 1700?
They don't even make them , Bosch does.
http://ipgparts.com/blog/injector-dy...00-are-coming/

I seen this a while back.
Not sure if they are considered 1,700cc though.
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http://ipgparts.com/blog/injector-dy...00-are-coming/

I seen this a while back.
Not sure if they are considered 1,700cc though.

That's from 5 years ago. The ID 1700's are the same injector FIC has been selling for a few years now as FIC 1650's.
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We were talking about the SR20. Is this even possible? That's like 100 hp over how much airflow that turbo can provide. I know E85 provides gains from the advanced timing but this seems a bit much.
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We were talking about the SR20. Is this even possible? That's like 100 hp over how much airflow that turbo can provide. I know E85 provides gains from the advanced timing but this seems a bit much.
I call bs, with my gt2871r and stock long block I made over 340 at 18psi or so.
My little t28 I think put down 298 a year before that.
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Sorry to change the subject guys but I'm looking for someone to point me in the right direction on some things if possible. I Have a 1990 240sx. Just got my LSX built and I will be running on E85. It's NA and is around 620 H.P. at the crank so we are thinking around 500 at the wheels. I was wondering what size fuel pump would be the best for me. I was looking at the Aem 340LPH but would hate to find out it's not enough. And also a good company to get my fuel lines and filter from. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!!
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Lets keep this thread going!

I am in search for a fuel filter at the moment, I think a 40 micron ss mesh filter would be good, any one running one in replacement for the stock fuel filter?

Also, how important is running a filter before the fuel pump??? Any one running one of these on their set up?
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Sorry to change the subject guys but I'm looking for someone to point me in the right direction on some things if possible. I Have a 1990 240sx. Just got my LSX built and I will be running on E85. It's NA and is around 620 H.P. at the crank so we are thinking around 500 at the wheels. I was wondering what size fuel pump would be the best for me. I was looking at the Aem 340LPH but would hate to find out it's not enough. And also a good company to get my fuel lines and filter from. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!!
The AEM pump will likely do it as your pressure will be pretty low given its not a boosted setup.

That said, I'd still go with a Walbro 450 E85 pump. It's almost the same price, but a much better pump than the old "drop in" fitment size.
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Lets keep this thread going!

I am in search for a fuel filter at the moment, I think a 40 micron ss mesh filter would be good, any one running one in replacement for the stock fuel filter?

Also, how important is running a filter before the fuel pump??? Any one running one of these on their set up?
that is what i've been using. i believe its an earls from summit.
need to ditch that stock filter as the e85 can dissolve the glue and what not that used with paper filters.
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Hey guys, starting to go full E85 soon. Im currently on:
stock block
TD05 @ 17
900 sidefeed sard
stock fpr but have tomei type s to swap.
Jim wolf tuned

Seen some people on 555cc getting 360whp.
Im looking for the same numbers! Will I be maxed out?
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Hey guys, starting to go full E85 soon. Im currently on:
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Seen some people on 555cc getting 360whp.
Im looking for the same numbers! Will I be maxed out?
No you'll be fine. That's more than enough injector for 360hp.
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Hey Guys,

So I went though a lot of the post here regarding the E85. I yet have still two thing unconfirmed only because there’s people saying it works and some say it doesn’t. So I have a 2002 Silvia S15, but I’m not sure if I should use the stock rubber fuel line for E85. Like will it work, or just eat through it in a matter of weeks? The other question was for the Walbro E85 fuel pump, do you just splice the wires together or is there a specific connector or adaptor available? Below are the details of my setup:

750cc Injectors
Top mount Garret GT3071 .72 AR
Front mount intercooler 3 inch core
3inch intercooler piping all around
Pushing roughly 380whp
Haltech ECU

*the goal is to get to like close to 500whp on stock internal via E85*

And let’s say that I put the walbro E85 fuel pump in, I put a flex fuel sensor and tune it via haltech. Would that be all I need to run E85? Am I missing anything crucial? Like what about the stock fuel filter?
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No, the stock rubber lines on the s15 are not e85 safe.

The walbro e85, installs like any other fuel pump. Splice in the wires.

Run a fuel filter that is e85 approved.

Ull need larger injectors aswell
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So I went though a lot of the post here regarding the E85. I yet have still two thing unconfirmed only because there?s people saying it works and some say it doesn?t. So I have a 2002 Silvia S15, but I?m not sure if I should use the stock rubber fuel line for E85. Like will it work, or just eat through it in a matter of weeks? The other question was for the Walbro E85 fuel pump, do you just splice the wires together or is there a specific connector or adaptor available? Below are the details of my setup:

750cc Injectors
Top mount Garret GT3071 .72 AR
Front mount intercooler 3 inch core
3inch intercooler piping all around
Pushing roughly 380whp
Haltech ECU

*the goal is to get to like close to 500whp on stock internal via E85*

And let?s say that I put the walbro E85 fuel pump in, I put a flex fuel sensor and tune it via haltech. Would that be all I need to run E85? Am I missing anything crucial? Like what about the stock fuel filter?
You will need a minimum of injector dynamics 1,300cc top feeds for 500whp range on a 4 cylinder engine.

Rubber fuel hoses are ok. Replace with new rubber hose rated at 225psi fuel pressure. I have been using mine for over 5 years now.
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Rubber fuel hoses are ok.
No!......

https://www.kaizenmotorsports.com/bl...ect-fuel-hoses


Id recommend ptfe line AN hoses. Never have to worry..EVER
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https://www.kaizenmotorsports.com/bl...ect-fuel-hoses


Id recommend ptfe line AN hoses. Never have to worry..EVER


Of course PTFE is the BEST way to go.

However I have been using these rubber hoses my self for over 5 years with NO issues what so ever! Fuel tank to hard line hoses are rubber and will continue to be! As long as hoses are changed out every 5-7 years there?s no issues
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Of course PTFE is the BEST way to go.

However I have been using these rubber hoses my self for over 5 years with NO issues what so ever! Fuel tank to hard line hoses are rubber and will continue to be! As long as hoses are changed out every 5-7 years there?s no issues

I guess u could go that route. But all the rubber hoses ive seen with e85, they split, and deteriorate from the inside clogginging up fuel filters and pumps
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