The 2020 Presidential Race

[Future240]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

This is exhausting......

Fukn round and round in the wheel.

Came here for car parts and enthusiasts

Have a headache instead

Funny how loud noises can cause that.

[lewisfk]

I don't understand how someone yells about their personal freedoms but bash women for making a life-changing decision. I never said ban guns, I only ask for reasonable solutions I got few from future and zenk. It is 2019 why are people talking about a well-organized militia? There are men and women who volunteer to protect this country, and sacrifice their lives. I honestly believe to many citizens are sitting on their asses crying about personal freedoms and do nothing to earn them!

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by lewisfk

I don't understand how someone yells about their personal freedoms but bash women for making a life-changing decision. I never said ban guns, I only ask for reasonable solutions I got few from future and zenk. It is 2019 why are people talking about a well-organized militia? There are men and women who volunteer to protect this country, and sacrifice their lives. I honestly believe to many citizens are sitting on their asses crying about personal freedoms and do nothing to earn them!

Cause in 2019 anything is possiable?

I mean hell its 2019 and crazy people with guns are shooting 4 or more people at a time... who thunk?

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by lewisfk

I don't understand how someone yells about their personal freedoms but bash women for making a life-changing decision. I never said ban guns, I only ask for reasonable solutions I got few from future and zenk. It is 2019 why are people talking about a well-organized militia? There are men and women who volunteer to protect this country, and sacrifice their lives. I honestly believe to many citizens are sitting on their asses crying about personal freedoms and do nothing to earn them!

Yeah, 2019

The "Progressive" Party that claims "the science is in" on Climate Change and mocks the religious...

Also believes in 56 Genders

Believes a Fetus isn't human and can be terminated at convince... But then also shrieks about eating meat or wearing fur.

Refuses to belive any scientific data or statistics on..

Guns
Gender/Sex
Economics, Micro and Macro
Intelligence
Reproduction
Psychology
Crime
Geography
History

[lewisfk]

Who would of think it, the FBI! They warned of the alt-right hate groups for the past 8 years. Fact, there is been more domestic terrorism in the US than foreign terrorism. Even major police departments across the U.S. advocate for the end of assault weapons, but hey what do they know? I just want reasonable reforms.

[lewisfk]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Yeah, 2019

The "Progressive" Party that claims "the science is in" on Climate Change and mocks the religious...

Also believes in 56 Genders

Believes a Fetus isn't human and can be terminated at convince... But then also shrieks about eating meat or wearing fur.

Refuses to belive any scientific data or statistics on..

Guns
Gender/Sex
Economics, Micro and Macro
Intelligence
Reproduction
Psychology
Crime
Geography
History

Who is mocking religion? Climate change is real! There are many lefties who believe in Economics and the markets. Elizabeth Warren is one of them. You might know agree with her views but when it comes to the numbers no one is calling her out on that.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by lewisfk

Who would of think it, the FBI! They warned of the alt-right hate groups for the past 8 years. Fact, there is been more domestic terrorism in the US than foreign terrorism. Even major police departments across the U.S. advocate for the end of assault weapons, but hey what do they know? I just want reasonable reforms.

The same FBI that tried to cover up Ruby Ridge, Waco, OKC and failed to do shit about 9/11? The same FBI that has God knows what to do with Epstine and litterally spent two years with thr DNC trying to stage a Soft-Coupe of a rightfully elected president?

Kay, sure.

Also, sensible reform? You've litterally been asked 15 times what the fuck that means. "I just want to stop all murder and bring about world peace"

Since you didn't read it: Here is what your confiscation and "more" background checks get you:

Originally Posted by Corbic

What does "your solution" solve?

Violate 350 million peoples constitutional rights.

Confiscate guns from Law Abbiding Citizens : potentially leading to civil violence

Take guns from rape and domestic violence victims

The 4-6 people that commit mass homicide each year, are still going to obtain guns on the black market or devise ways to kill +10 people in a single instance (bombs, blades, vehicles, poison)

Gangs and Violent Criminals will still have black market access to guns, member who don't will innovate.

Background Checks:

Check fucking what? Someone posted a Trump meme or Hitler Joke? Someone has anxiety? Someone was late for work? Bad credit? Banned from Facebook?

What are you going to do when it comes to.. Someone is Black and lives in Chicago? Someone is Muslim and married to a Saudi? Someone is Gender Queer and was bullied in school? Someone voted for Bernie Sanders and hates Capitalism? They are a Seahawks fan?

Are you going to create a giant information data base and generate a "social credit score" for everyone in the US? Hmmm sounds like a marvelously totalitarian dream!




I better stop talking to you, I don't need your low SCS to impact mine.

[exitspeed]

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...er-ncna1042931

Framed differently, the picture is this: Men need heterosexuality to maintain their societal dominance over women. Women, on the other hand, are increasingly realizing not only that they don’t need heterosexuality, but that it also is often the bedrock of their global oppression.

This is the kind of shit that is going to get Trump re-elected. This is the radical Left.

[lewisfk]

Republican Mark Sanford is going to make a run for the GOP nomination. Approve or disapprove?

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by lewisfk

Republican Mark Sanford is going to make a run for the GOP nomination. Approve or disapprove?

16 times now...

Originally Posted by Corbic

What does "your solution" solve?

Violate 350 million peoples constitutional rights.

Confiscate guns from Law Abbiding Citizens : potentially leading to civil violence

Take guns from rape and domestic violence victims

The 4-6 people that commit mass homicide each year, are still going to obtain guns on the black market or devise ways to kill +10 people in a single instance (bombs, blades, vehicles, poison)

Gangs and Violent Criminals will still have black market access to guns, member who don't will innovate.

Background Checks:

Check fucking what? Someone posted a Trump meme or Hitler Joke? Someone has anxiety? Someone was late for work? Bad credit? Banned from Facebook?

What are you going to do when it comes to.. Someone is Black and lives in Chicago? Someone is Muslim and married to a Saudi? Someone is Gender Queer and was bullied in school? Someone voted for Bernie Sanders and hates Capitalism? They are a Seahawks fan?

Are you going to create a giant information data base and generate a "social credit score" for everyone in the US? Hmmm sounds like a marvelously totalitarian dream!




I better stop talking to you, I don't need your low SCS to impact mine.

[Future240]

He himself even admitted he is unlikely to defeat the potus.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e1c_story.html

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mar...s-lost-our-way

[midnight zenki]

Originally Posted by Future240

He himself even admitted he is unlikely to defeat the potus.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e1c_story.html

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mar...s-lost-our-way

Doesn’t matter much when Greed Over People is silencing challengers to Trump by eliminating primaries in multiple states https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pol...engers-1483126

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by midnight zenki

Doesn’t matter much when Greed Over People is silencing challengers to Trump by eliminating primaries in multiple states https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pol...engers-1483126

Did you come up with a clever acronym when Hilary and the DNC conspired and gave her the nomination over Bernie?

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Did you come up with a clever acronym when Hilary and the DNC conspired and gave her the nomination over Bernie?

Naw, they just murder dudes.

Just ask Shawn Lucas and Seth Rich... Oh wait.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Corbic

They are a Seahawks fan?.

Well I'm fucked.

[lewisfk]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Did you come up with a clever acronym when Hilary and the DNC conspired and gave her the nomination over Bernie?

^^Agreed!

The DNC is a basket case and is out of step with middle America and rural America. I believe moderate Republicans need t start their own Party! this will draw in Independents like myself and moderate Democrats. Will Hurd always gets my vote, he is a veteran, willing to compromise for the greater good, and doesn't compromise his morals.

[midnight zenki]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Did you come up with a clever acronym when Hilary and the DNC conspired and gave her the nomination over Bernie?

Nah, but Do Not Care comes to mind pretty quickly.

[Future240]

Originally Posted by lewisfk

The POLITICAL SYSTEM is a basket case. I believe moderates need to start their own Party!

Fixed.
We need a real viable 3rd party.

[midnight zenki]

Originally Posted by Future240

Fixed.
We need a real viable 3rd party.

I also agree with this.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by Future240

Fixed.

We need a real viable 3rd party.

Can you imagine, being elected with only 26% of the counties votes instead of 46%? #NotMyPresident

A 3rd party sounds great I till you realize it may end up just being the party of California, Washington and New York.

[S14rebuild]

Trump 2020......done

[lewisfk]

^^ Ok. I think things like this will be his down fall, even the most die hard Republicans are pissed about this.

I find it insane that the CIA or FBI felt compelled to pull a deep Russian asset in 2017 because of the POTUS inability to keep his mouth shut. Fears confirmed in late 2017 when he leaks Israeli intelligence to Russia.

[feito]

Originally Posted by lewisfk

It is 2019 why are people talking about a well-organized militia?

hong kong and venezuelan protesters come to mind

Originally Posted by lewisfk

There are men and women who volunteer to protect this country, and sacrifice their lives.

hong kong and venezuelan military and police fighting off the protesters come to mind.
See how that works?
You dont want your freedom? Fine, but you wont force us into surrendering ours.
Freedom be scary yo.

[Future240]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Can you imagine, being elected with only 26% of the counties votes instead of 46%? #NotMyPresident

A 3rd party sounds great I till you realize it may end up just being the party of California, Washington and New York.

I get why it sounds bad on paper but a lot of people only vote for left or right because that is all there is and it’s been done that way so long.

We hand all this power to two parties and they play political softball with our nation.

Remember all the articles concerning the health of Hilliary? Now they are doing the same thing to Trump.

Barack put in regulations regarding climate change and the EPA Trump undos them.

If a democrat is elected then he or she will likely softball them back screaming climate change.

The parties now see to be more focused on beating the other party versus getting stuff done.

That being said I will say 45 is not part of the Republican Party. He is like Bernie in being an independent who adopted a label to get elected under one of the two parties.

In his own way he is trying to get stuff done. Can’t argue with that. His congress however......

Washington warned of this.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geor...tical_factions

Washington recognizes that it is natural for people to organize and operate within groups such as political parties, but he also argues that every government has recognized political parties as an enemy and has sought to repress them because of their tendency to seek more power than other groups and to take revenge on political opponents.[5] He feels that disagreements between political parties weakened the government.

Moreover, he makes the case that "the alternate domination" of one party over another and coinciding efforts to exact revenge upon their opponents have led to horrible atrocities, and "is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism." From Washington's perspective and judgment, political parties eventually and "gradually incline the minds of men to seek security... in the absolute power of an individual",[1] leading to despotism. He acknowledges the fact that parties are sometimes beneficial in promoting liberty in monarchies, but argues that political parties must be restrained in a popularly elected government because of their tendency to distract the government from their duties, create unfounded jealousies among groups and regions, raise false alarms among the people, promote riots and insurrection, and provide foreign nations and interests access to the government where they can impose their will upon the country.

[bmhossain]

Originally Posted by feito

hong kong and venezuelan protesters come to mind

hong kong and venezuelan military and police fighting off the protesters come to mind.
See how that works?
You dont want your freedom? Fine, but you wont force us into surrendering ours.
Freedom be scary yo.

Pretty sure we've seen this happen several times throughout history. Always in the name of peace initially. If you think the political elite don't believe that they should have total control over everything you're wrong. Once freedoms are lost it's not exactly easy to get them back. These two countries are a fine example.

[lewisfk]

Originally Posted by feito

hong kong and venezuelan protesters come to mind

hong kong and venezuelan military and police fighting off the protesters come to mind.
See how that works?
You dont want your freedom? Fine, but you wont force us into surrendering ours.
Freedom be scary yo.

Hong Kong is the only place in China were the citizens have full access to the internet, not controlled by the Government. They have the right to protest and show their frustration, there is no need for a militia! if you want to understand how militias work in the modern era, google Iraq. Militias are no different than mercenaries killing for power and money. (MODERN ERA)

Venezuela is fighting to overthrow a dictator who is propped up by Russia and Cuba. There is a food shortage, vaccine shortage, medicine, and electricity shortage. The people of Venezuela are fighting because the government is inept and miss handled the country's finances.
Venezuela
• Proven oil reserves: 303.2 billion barrels (17.9% of world total)
• 2017 daily oil production: 2.1 million barrels
• 5 yr. oil production change: -22%
• GDP per-capita: N/A

[lewisfk]

Everyone please check your favorite new outlet to verify this! Odesa Texas shooter failed Federal Background check to purchase a weapon. He purchased his guns from a private seller, and used those guns to kill 7 and wounded 25.


https://www.texastribune.org/2019/09...kground-check/

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/09/us/un...nvs/index.html

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by bmhossain

Pretty sure we've seen this happen several times throughout history. Always in the name of peace initially. If you think the political elite don't believe that they should have total control over everything you're wrong. Once freedoms are lost it's not exactly easy to get them back. These two countries are a fine example.

[Future240]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/09/04/us/....google.com%2F

Some Sources say the investigation is still underway
Some say he for sure did a private sell.

Some say the seller was illegally making and selling guns
https://www.wsj.com/articles/authori...ng-11567639127
Curious as to what the fbi will turn up.

Also
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...es/2268924001/


https://www.dailywire.com/news/48863...20-josh-hammer

[Future240]

So 45 wants to ban flavored vapes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/11/h...mp-vaping.html

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/09/11/pol...le.com%2F&rm=1

This opinion piece pretty much sums of my thoughts
https://www.dailywire.com/news/51649...and-matt-walsh