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godrifttoday · 11-08-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DC Dan MAX USA

Just to clarify, our original MAX super angle knuckle mod has the adjustable settings. (this is the parts kit we sell if you want to mod yourself) $250

The MAX Pro knuckle (servive to your knuckle $400) is fixed after much testing from myself, Ross Petty, and Matt Field. This is the most aggressive knuckle available today with up to 62 degrees of angle and the lowest usefull ackerman ratio, 8.5 degrees difference at lock.
45mm roll center correction, OEM bump steer, quick steering.

BOSO S15 is running Parts Shop MAX pro knuckles which is why our logo has been on their side skirt in recent FD events, check out the you tube videos on the car testing and Ross Petty interview.

How much does the pbm pro knuckle drop the car ? If it does or not, driftworks drops the car 50mm I believe . Any info would be great

rbs14kouki · 11-08-2011, 10:06 PM

it doesnt drop the car ... it drop your pick up point for flca and tie-rod !!! (you will stay at the same heigth the stock)

DC Dan MAX USA · 11-09-2011, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ill.

These arrived!

Quality is good. Soo beefy.

Looks like Parts Shop MAX New Zealand for their new pro multilink shipment in ahead of the USA. Oceana just got a touch of undercarriage bling. Thanks for the feedback. I reposted your blog on Facebook.

prego · 11-09-2011, 03:24 AM

i have the driftworks knuckles and i kind of wish i had went with psm i havent even driven the car yet, but the fitment is so atrocious every hole needs to be sanded, the stubs needed to be sanded, the face mounting to my shock needed to be sanded, i have a bbk and i needed to shave my caliper abit to avoid hitting my 2 piece rotors because the caliper mounts are slightly closer to the stub, i wanted to retain abs so i needed to drill a hole for the sensor and ended up using heavy duty automotive sika-flex to hold it in place, for a part i payed alot of money for it really isnt up to scratch, atleast with psm you know everything is going to fit back in without hassle, just for me they were too far away for it to be worth it

ill. · 11-09-2011, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC Dan MAX USA

Looks like Parts Shop MAX New Zealand for their new pro multilink shipment in ahead of the USA. Oceana just got a touch of undercarriage bling. Thanks for the feedback. I reposted your blog on Facebook.

Hahaha. That's sweet man. Super happy.

godrifttoday · 11-09-2011, 11:23 AM

Matt power is using driftwork knuckles right?

rbs14kouki · 11-09-2011, 11:28 AM

^Yup driftworks front and rear knuckles , kw Clubsport coilovers (i'm not sure)

Csomme · 11-10-2011, 12:22 AM

They're pretty much clubsports, just different shock bodies.^^

s13 loverr · 11-10-2011, 07:03 AM

[/QUOTE]

Yep I saw your new version and decided yes! How come your new version isn't on your website though? On your website its the old version listing only 25mm for roll center correction.

DC Dan MAX USA · 11-10-2011, 10:07 AM

Tell me about it, admittedly updates to our virtual world have been struggling because we have been so busy making new stuff in the real world = )

People have been calling us about the PRO knuckle and just checking out directly through PayPal after the phone quote.

Basically $400 for the knuckle mod, $500 for the knuckle and LCA mod. +sh

I'll pick up the slack

rbs14kouki · 11-10-2011, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Csomme

They're pretty much clubsports, just different shock bodies.^^

diff bodies to go lower ???

does anybody know : are the clubsport height ajustable by the bodie or only by the spring perch , im talking about the front one ... i know the rear are only adjustable by the spring perch

im waiting on rear shock bodies for my PSM coilovers right now Dan ship some to me ... if its not enought to raise the car like i want

ill be looking into clubsports coilover but i have PSM front knuckle and DW rear knuckles .... i dont want to have the back of the car 3 inch lower cause of my DW(drop spindle) and not bein able to adjust the front to go as low !!!

PoorMans180SX · 11-10-2011, 06:30 PM

KW doesn't make a double height adjustable coilover. You'd have to get them to make you custom housings with your length specs.

slideways90 · 11-10-2011, 07:59 PM

i have clubsports and drift works front and rear. im on 17s and my car is stupid low for a track car. the driftworks stuff drops alot

codyace · 11-10-2011, 08:56 PM

Call me a newb, but I'm confused as to if the DW knuckles outperoform my ChinaChamg FLCA, with new bearing and RC correction added. For the Extra 300 dollars for DW or PSM knuckles, I want to really know if it's better than what I made myself.

PoorMans180SX · 11-11-2011, 06:08 AM

For people on a budget and just using their car as a street car, then yes.

The increase in ackerman you just put into your steering isn't good for anything really.

PSM and DW guys get 45mm correction. Yours looks like... 20mm? Plus they give a nice bump in steering speed.

rbs14kouki · 11-11-2011, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

KW doesn't make a double height adjustable coilover. You'd have to get them to make you custom housings with your length specs.

Thanks , thats What i thought

*ManoNegra* · 11-11-2011, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codyace

Call me a newb, but I'm confused as to if the DW knuckles outperoform my ChinaChamg FLCA, with new bearing and RC correction added. For the Extra 300 dollars for DW or PSM knuckles, I want to really know if it's better than what I made myself.

duuuuude, you don't have that sick angle that let your front wheels point backwards!!!

DC Dan MAX USA · 11-11-2011, 11:30 AM

Cody, its all about getting the roll center and ackermen correct, and the advantage to drifters is steering quickness, angle, and drastically reduced ackerman
That's why the knuckle mod is worth the money
this shows what's going wrong with your setup! No one wants more ackerman

Mano, sounds like sarcasm, we do offer a roll center knuckle mod with stock angle and turn in speed if you dont care for drifting

'97 S14 SE Turbo · 11-11-2011, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codyace

I'll call you a noob for the upside down caliper... Kinda hard to get the last bit of air out of the system that way...

PoorMans180SX · 11-11-2011, 08:34 PM

I'm pretty sure it has bleeders on both top and bottom.

Purestock240 · 11-11-2011, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

I'm pretty sure it has bleeders on both top and bottom.

this, thought the same

Def · 11-11-2011, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by '97 S14 SE Turbo

I'll call you a noob for the upside down caliper... Kinda hard to get the last bit of air out of the system that way...

Forged Superlite Internals don't have a crossover tube, so they have 4 bleeders.

So I'll call you a noob for your general dbagness and lack of knowledge of the most awesome brake setup ever for an S chassis.

*ManoNegra* · 11-11-2011, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Mano, sounds like sarcasm, we do offer a roll center knuckle mod with stock angle and turn in speed if you dont care for drifting

sarcasm indeed
I appreciate drifting but don't care for culture and nutswigging that goes with it
I like your company though and agree the knuckle mod sans angle is indeed worth it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Def

So I'll call you a noob for your general dbagness and lack of knowledge of the most awesome brake setup ever for an S chassis.

I think you may be a tad, just a tad, biased there.

I keep bugging Mike to quite lagging and install his set

godrifttoday · 11-12-2011, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManoNegra

sarcasm indeed
I appreciate drifting but don't care for culture and nutswigging that goes with it
I like your company though and agree the knuckle mod sans angle is indeed worth it

I think you may be a tad, just a tad, biased there.

I keep bugging Mike to quite lagging and install his set

And while your add it, get make me a set, so I may run those brakes

Motary · 11-12-2011, 03:11 AM

Does anyone know how much has the rear subframe's lower control arm's front pickup point been lowered on S14 compared to S13?

*Jonnie Fraz* · 11-12-2011, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motary

Does anyone know how much has the rear subframe's lower control arm's front pickup point been lowered on S14 compared to S13?

Approx. an inch and a half.

*ManoNegra* · 11-12-2011, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godrifttoday

And while your add it, get make me a set, so I may run those brakes

Hit up Def or look in the Group Buy section of NRR
there's a group buy for them going on right now
and little birdie says parts will be ready to ship very soon

s13silvia123 · 11-12-2011, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC Dan MAX USA

Tell me about it, admittedly updates to our virtual world have been struggling because we have been so busy making new stuff in the real world = )

People have been calling us about the PRO knuckle and just checking out directly through PayPal after the phone quote.

Basically $400 for the knuckle mod, $500 for the knuckle and LCA mod. +sh

I'll pick up the slack

i've been wondering for awhile now if your knuckle mod will work on my SPL LCA.

godrifttoday · 11-12-2011, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManoNegra

Hit up Def or look in the Group Buy section of NRR
there's a group buy for them going on right now
and little birdie says parts will be ready to ship very soon

But I was hoping I can just go to your shop

Def · 11-12-2011, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godrifttoday

But I was hoping I can just go to your shop

You can possibly pick up from their shop, but it's still my design that I have Mike and Juan do the machining for some parts.

11-08-2011, 10:06 PM	#3302
rbs14kouki Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Montreal , Canada Age: 37 Posts: 817 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	it doesnt drop the car ... it drop your pick up point for flca and tie-rod !!! (you will stay at the same heigth the stock) __________________ AV FABRICATION Built thread sr20vet s14 http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=535574

11-09-2011, 11:23 AM	#3306
godrifttoday Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: los angeles Age: 40 Posts: 3,120 Trader Rating: (82) Feedback Score: 82 reviews	Matt power is using driftwork knuckles right? __________________ NEED Bolt kits for your car?

11-09-2011, 11:28 AM	#3307
rbs14kouki Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Montreal , Canada Age: 37 Posts: 817 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^Yup driftworks front and rear knuckles , kw Clubsport coilovers (i'm not sure) __________________ AV FABRICATION Built thread sr20vet s14 http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=535574

11-10-2011, 10:07 AM	#3310
DC Dan MAX USA Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,478 Trader Rating: (79) Feedback Score: 79 reviews	Tell me about it, admittedly updates to our virtual world have been struggling because we have been so busy making new stuff in the real world = ) People have been calling us about the PRO knuckle and just checking out directly through PayPal after the phone quote. Basically $400 for the knuckle mod, $500 for the knuckle and LCA mod. +sh I'll pick up the slack __________________ How To order: You can order directly from our zilvia advertiser threads. When you add to cart, you get an instant shipping estimate, & the cart will remember all of your items as you move between forum threads and our website www.poweredbymax.net until you remove them or check out. I can also calculate estimates manually for you but the cart's estimates are way faster and more accurate. Order Inquiry: IM me your real name and paypal address. Thanks for your business!

11-10-2011, 06:30 PM	#3312
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	KW doesn't make a double height adjustable coilover. You'd have to get them to make you custom housings with your length specs. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

11-09-2011, 03:24 AM	#3304
prego Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bris, Aus. Posts: 40 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have the driftworks knuckles and i kind of wish i had went with psm i havent even driven the car yet, but the fitment is so atrocious every hole needs to be sanded, the stubs needed to be sanded, the face mounting to my shock needed to be sanded, i have a bbk and i needed to shave my caliper abit to avoid hitting my 2 piece rotors because the caliper mounts are slightly closer to the stub, i wanted to retain abs so i needed to drill a hole for the sensor and ended up using heavy duty automotive sika-flex to hold it in place, for a part i payed alot of money for it really isnt up to scratch, atleast with psm you know everything is going to fit back in without hassle, just for me they were too far away for it to be worth it

11-10-2011, 12:22 AM	#3308
Csomme Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: north carolinazzz Age: 33 Posts: 1,009 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	They're pretty much clubsports, just different shock bodies.^^

11-10-2011, 07:03 AM	#3309
s13 loverr Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Mexico Posts: 203 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	[/QUOTE] Yep I saw your new version and decided yes! How come your new version isn't on your website though? On your website its the old version listing only 25mm for roll center correction.

11-10-2011, 07:59 PM	#3313
slideways90 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 111 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have clubsports and drift works front and rear. im on 17s and my car is stupid low for a track car. the driftworks stuff drops alot

11-10-2011, 08:56 PM	#3314
codyace Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poconos, PA Age: 39 Posts: 8,030 Trader Rating: (58) Feedback Score: 58 reviews	Call me a newb, but I'm confused as to if the DW knuckles outperoform my ChinaChamg FLCA, with new bearing and RC correction added. For the Extra 300 dollars for DW or PSM knuckles, I want to really know if it's better than what I made myself. __________________ *Want Air Conditioning in your SR20 Swapped car? Check out www.sr20acbrackets.com for more information! Quest Alternator Conversions for SR20!* Check my Group Buy! Tired of lousy internal gates? Go external wastegate with one of my manifolds, Check out my group buy

11-11-2011, 06:08 AM	#3315
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	For people on a budget and just using their car as a street car, then yes. The increase in ackerman you just put into your steering isn't good for anything really. PSM and DW guys get 45mm correction. Yours looks like... 20mm? Plus they give a nice bump in steering speed. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

11-11-2011, 11:30 AM	#3318
DC Dan MAX USA Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,478 Trader Rating: (79) Feedback Score: 79 reviews	Cody, its all about getting the roll center and ackermen correct, and the advantage to drifters is steering quickness, angle, and drastically reduced ackerman That's why the knuckle mod is worth the money this shows what's going wrong with your setup! No one wants more ackerman Mano, sounds like sarcasm, we do offer a roll center knuckle mod with stock angle and turn in speed if you dont care for drifting __________________ How To order: You can order directly from our zilvia advertiser threads. When you add to cart, you get an instant shipping estimate, & the cart will remember all of your items as you move between forum threads and our website www.poweredbymax.net until you remove them or check out. I can also calculate estimates manually for you but the cart's estimates are way faster and more accurate. Order Inquiry: IM me your real name and paypal address. Thanks for your business!

11-11-2011, 08:34 PM	#3320
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	I'm pretty sure it has bleeders on both top and bottom. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

11-12-2011, 03:11 AM	#3325
Motary Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Estonia Age: 35 Posts: 450 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Does anyone know how much has the rear subframe's lower control arm's front pickup point been lowered on S14 compared to S13?

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