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Antihero983 · 08-12-2008, 09:32 AM

Alright, I have a 1978 Datsun 280Z 2+2.

It's rotted badly, but it runs, and needs a shit ton of chassis/body work.

But I love it.

I mean I picked it up for 250$ and put another 200 into it to get it running (which the previous owner couldn't do) so I'm into it for short money, and really have no problem continuing on with it, because I love old cars, especially Zs, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER ITS 2/2 OR NOT.

However, I grew up on musclecars and old skool cars, and I'm really really wanting one.

Hell I almost bought a 1964 Dodge Polara 4 door with a 318 V8 a couple years ago.

I'm to the point now where I can dump a shitload of money into the Datsun, but even after all is said and done, the car really doesnt have mcuh longer to live I think, MAYBE another year or two.

I dunno. I just want an old car other than my beetle, Datsun or otherwise.

So, do I sell the datsun for like 500$ and move one, or do I dig my feet in for the long haul with it and try to keep it among the driven?

and please don't base your decision soley on the fact it's a 2/2, cause it's still a Z.

Fonix36 · 08-12-2008, 10:29 AM

do what feels right but make sure your not going to regret it a z is a z there is nothing like it in the world

((sr)) kelly · 08-12-2008, 11:33 AM

sell the 2+2 and get a 2 seater

singlecamslam · 08-12-2008, 11:52 AM

well you probably dont have to worry about smog where you live, so you can probably just make that a project car and restore it?

Antihero983 · 08-12-2008, 11:58 AM

and to add to my post, if i do go older skool, I will be getting something older than both the beetle and the Z, as in 65 or older.

1five10 · 08-12-2008, 11:59 AM

Try to sell to a Z enthusiast in your area that's willing to revive it. A Z is a Z, no matter what. Good luck...

nismo tuned s14 · 08-12-2008, 12:27 PM

I say go old school. I was about $2000 away from being able to buy a 1969 Mustang Mach 1 before I found my S14.

Muscle car love.

punkrico · 08-12-2008, 12:42 PM

get a 240z they look so much hotter

Antihero983 · 08-12-2008, 12:51 PM

^god i'm so sick of hearing that.

rich280zxt · 08-12-2008, 01:57 PM

Do both. Keep the z, throw a turbo motor in it and track it. Then get an older muscle car for a project. Come on, what good is selling the z for a lousy 500 dollars. Keep it man!

punkrico · 08-12-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RedEvilRPS13

^god i'm so sick of hearing that.

i like the smaller bodied car but its all in personal pref

hustlervibes · 08-12-2008, 07:48 PM

Save the Z, not many people build up the 2+2s

Antihero983 · 08-12-2008, 08:09 PM

i might. i may have found a dude that'll help me.

posdriftin · 08-12-2008, 11:17 PM

why not get an older 60's bluebird... not the fasteest thing in the world but way more rare than some 69 rs z8 clone crap... it depends on what you after now...raw power (z with small block) great handling (510 with ka or sr20de) or fun to drive with ok handling (roadster) or truck wise a 520 (with ka in it)

silviaguy240 · 08-12-2008, 11:33 PM

z with small block is ghetto, unless its a ls2 or 7. all that 350 carb'd shit is fucking stupid. and people that carb the l28's are stupid too. i want to build my 2+2 but i just dont have the cash flow to do what i want right now.

soreballz · 08-13-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RedEvilRPS13

^god i'm so sick of hearing that.

lol, it is true though. 2+2's just look... odd, compared next to the 240/260.

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Originally Posted by silviaguy240

z with small block is ghetto, unless its a ls2 or 7. all that 350 carb'd shit is fucking stupid.

Why is that so dumb? They're proven reliable motors that can make great power. Not everyone wants to spend the money for an LSx, and lots of people prefer the simplicity of carbed setups.

I say ditch the Z. Go old school. '49-'65 cars = win.

((sr)) kelly · 08-13-2008, 10:18 AM

get a 260-280z and throw a Rb in there..

Antihero983 · 08-13-2008, 02:37 PM

^ no RB. i like my L series.

and i think i might keep it and once its more drivable, get an older skool vehicle

rich280zxt · 08-13-2008, 03:31 PM

I have a 3.1 liter stroker with triple webers, and it beats the hell out of fuel injection.

drift freaq · 08-13-2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rich280zxt

I have a 3.1 liter stroker with triple webers, and it beats the hell out of fuel injection.

3.1 strokers suck LOL. IMHO. That said a 2+2 280z is worthless do not sink money into restoring it. If you do restore a S30 make sure its a non 2+2 and a 240z or a 260z(260 only because they were only made one year i.e. even rarer) Plus L26's can be dope ass engines. They were the best of the L series because they ran a L28 crank and rod with L24 piston and bore. It had a nice broad flat torque and HP band i.e like a RB25/RB26. Both the L24 and L26 had the revs the L28 always wished it had. LOL
Now going older with something else is cool as well. It all depends on what your intentions are or if your just being ADD about it.

Antihero983 · 08-13-2008, 07:37 PM

honestly, i have wicked bad automotive ADD.

twistedsymphony · 08-14-2008, 05:13 AM

Personally I like the 280z better than the 260z Rare cars are cool and all but the roof-line of the 2+2 is just ugly IMO.

Either way it's not like you can just go to the Z store and buy another Z car... those things are rare gems in our area (north east us) rust seems to demolish most cars inside 15 years... if they last longer than that it's a miracle.

Personally, there are only 2 Z cars that I would go out of my way to own and the 280 isn't one of them. If I was going for old school I'd import an old school imported Datsun.

69 Skyline GT

Or maybe a 510 or 710.. mmmm

((sr)) kelly · 08-15-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rich280zxt

I have a 3.1 liter stroker with triple webers, and it beats the hell out of fuel injection.

wow.. you are a complete dumbass... how many years did your family inbreed for you to come up with this assumption??

((sr)) kelly · 08-15-2008, 03:09 PM

i vote 280z

posdriftin · 08-15-2008, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ((sr)) kelly

wow.. you are a complete dumbass... how many years did your family inbreed for you to come up with this assumption??

acually i does make more power (na wise) just not as reliable as f.i.
well tuned sidedrafts are powerfull, exspecially with that diesel crank...(stroke)...most people that say carbs are bad on a datsun prob had crappy su's or stock downdraft carb..ive had dellorto 40mm and weber 45 on both datsuns on my 2.3 litre 4 cyl.. and i willing to bet it was faster than most beat to crap sr 240sx...both ways are good thoughjust depends on what you like...

rich280zxt · 08-15-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by posdriftin

acually i does make more power (na wise) just not as reliable as f.i.
well tuned sidedrafts are powerfull, exspecially with that diesel crank...(stroke)...most people that say carbs are bad on a datsun prob had crappy su's or stock downdraft carb..ive had dellorto 40mm and weber 45 on both datsuns on my 2.3 litre 4 cyl.. and i willing to bet it was faster than most beat to crap sr 240sx...both ways are good thoughjust depends on what you like...

Thank you. YouTube - datsun240z

zylvia213 · 08-15-2008, 07:30 PM

I say sell it or turn it into a BBQ grill lol.... no honestly i would get rid of it and get my self a 2 seater. 2+2's look weird.

silviaguy240 · 08-16-2008, 05:27 PM

which is why i regret buying my 280 2+2 every day. for the money ive spent on my 240 and purchasing the 280 and other shit...god i would have a sick s30.

Antihero983 · 08-17-2008, 07:31 PM

i love my 2+2 because it's a 2+2. it makes people go wtf?

and besides, its still an S30, regardless of seat count.

s13dan · 08-26-2008, 10:49 AM

If it was a 2 seater i would say keep it but since its a 4 seater i am saying keep it...i love datsuns

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08-12-2008, 09:32 AM	#1
Antihero983 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilmanton, NH Age: 39 Posts: 4,409 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Antihero983 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Datsun or Older Skool? Alright, I have a 1978 Datsun 280Z 2+2. It's rotted badly, but it runs, and needs a shit ton of chassis/body work. But I love it. I mean I picked it up for 250$ and put another 200 into it to get it running (which the previous owner couldn't do) so I'm into it for short money, and really have no problem continuing on with it, because I love old cars, especially Zs, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER ITS 2/2 OR NOT. However, I grew up on musclecars and old skool cars, and I'm really really wanting one. Hell I almost bought a 1964 Dodge Polara 4 door with a 318 V8 a couple years ago. I'm to the point now where I can dump a shitload of money into the Datsun, but even after all is said and done, the car really doesnt have mcuh longer to live I think, MAYBE another year or two. I dunno. I just want an old car other than my beetle, Datsun or otherwise. So, do I sell the datsun for like 500$ and move one, or do I dig my feet in for the long haul with it and try to keep it among the driven? and please don't base your decision soley on the fact it's a 2/2, cause it's still a Z. __________________ "So here I am, right back at it again, just like I've always been"

08-12-2008, 10:29 AM	#2
Fonix36 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: southern cali Age: 34 Posts: 2,457 Trader Rating: (34) Feedback Score: 34 reviews	do what feels right but make sure your not going to regret it a z is a z there is nothing like it in the world __________________ DRiFT 4 A Cure!

08-12-2008, 11:52 AM	#4
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,534 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	well you probably dont have to worry about smog where you live, so you can probably just make that a project car and restore it? __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

08-12-2008, 11:58 AM	#5
Antihero983 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilmanton, NH Age: 39 Posts: 4,409 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Antihero983 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	and to add to my post, if i do go older skool, I will be getting something older than both the beetle and the Z, as in 65 or older. __________________ "So here I am, right back at it again, just like I've always been"

08-12-2008, 11:33 AM	#3
((sr)) kelly BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Zebulon... NC Posts: 1,035 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	sell the 2+2 and get a 2 seater

08-12-2008, 11:59 AM	#6
1five10 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The OC Posts: 840 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Try to sell to a Z enthusiast in your area that's willing to revive it. A Z is a Z, no matter what. Good luck...

08-12-2008, 12:27 PM	#7
nismo tuned s14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Nashville Age: 36 Posts: 425 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I say go old school. I was about $2000 away from being able to buy a 1969 Mustang Mach 1 before I found my S14. Muscle car love.

08-12-2008, 12:42 PM	#8
punkrico Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: memphis Posts: 126 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	get a 240z they look so much hotter

08-12-2008, 12:51 PM	#9
Antihero983 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilmanton, NH Age: 39 Posts: 4,409 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Antihero983 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	^god i'm so sick of hearing that. __________________ "So here I am, right back at it again, just like I've always been"

08-12-2008, 01:57 PM	#10
rich280zxt Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jax Posts: 225 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Do both. Keep the z, throw a turbo motor in it and track it. Then get an older muscle car for a project. Come on, what good is selling the z for a lousy 500 dollars. Keep it man!

08-12-2008, 07:48 PM	#12
hustlervibes Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Rep Power: ∞ Age: 35 Posts: 2,453 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Save the Z, not many people build up the 2+2s

08-12-2008, 08:09 PM	#13
Antihero983 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilmanton, NH Age: 39 Posts: 4,409 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Antihero983 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i might. i may have found a dude that'll help me. __________________ "So here I am, right back at it again, just like I've always been"

08-12-2008, 11:17 PM	#14
posdriftin Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: so cal...north ..sd... Posts: 832 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	why not get an older 60's bluebird... not the fasteest thing in the world but way more rare than some 69 rs z8 clone crap... it depends on what you after now...raw power (z with small block) great handling (510 with ka or sr20de) or fun to drive with ok handling (roadster) or truck wise a 520 (with ka in it)

08-12-2008, 11:33 PM	#15
silviaguy240 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Delaware Age: 35 Posts: 3,719 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	z with small block is ghetto, unless its a ls2 or 7. all that 350 carb'd shit is fucking stupid. and people that carb the l28's are stupid too. i want to build my 2+2 but i just dont have the cash flow to do what i want right now. __________________

08-13-2008, 10:18 AM	#17
((sr)) kelly BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Zebulon... NC Posts: 1,035 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	get a 260-280z and throw a Rb in there..

08-13-2008, 02:37 PM	#18
Antihero983 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilmanton, NH Age: 39 Posts: 4,409 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Antihero983 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	^ no RB. i like my L series. and i think i might keep it and once its more drivable, get an older skool vehicle __________________ "So here I am, right back at it again, just like I've always been"

08-13-2008, 03:31 PM	#19
rich280zxt Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jax Posts: 225 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I have a 3.1 liter stroker with triple webers, and it beats the hell out of fuel injection.

08-13-2008, 07:37 PM	#21
Antihero983 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilmanton, NH Age: 39 Posts: 4,409 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Antihero983 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	honestly, i have wicked bad automotive ADD. __________________ "So here I am, right back at it again, just like I've always been"

08-14-2008, 05:13 AM	#22
twistedsymphony Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NH Age: 41 Posts: 399 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Personally I like the 280z better than the 260z Rare cars are cool and all but the roof-line of the 2+2 is just ugly IMO. Either way it's not like you can just go to the Z store and buy another Z car... those things are rare gems in our area (north east us) rust seems to demolish most cars inside 15 years... if they last longer than that it's a miracle. Personally, there are only 2 Z cars that I would go out of my way to own and the 280 isn't one of them. If I was going for old school I'd import an old school imported Datsun. 69 Skyline GT Or maybe a 510 or 710.. mmmm Last edited by twistedsymphony; 08-28-2008 at 07:50 AM..

08-15-2008, 03:09 PM	#24
((sr)) kelly BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Zebulon... NC Posts: 1,035 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	i vote 280z

08-15-2008, 07:30 PM	#27
zylvia213 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: LOST ANGELES Posts: 1,978 Trader Rating: (36) Rides Gallery: zylvia213 Feedback Score: 36 reviews	I say sell it or turn it into a BBQ grill lol.... no honestly i would get rid of it and get my self a 2 seater. 2+2's look weird. __________________

08-16-2008, 05:27 PM	#28
silviaguy240 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Delaware Age: 35 Posts: 3,719 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	which is why i regret buying my 280 2+2 every day. for the money ive spent on my 240 and purchasing the 280 and other shit...god i would have a sick s30. __________________

08-17-2008, 07:31 PM	#29
Antihero983 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilmanton, NH Age: 39 Posts: 4,409 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Antihero983 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i love my 2+2 because it's a 2+2. it makes people go wtf? and besides, its still an S30, regardless of seat count. __________________ "So here I am, right back at it again, just like I've always been"

08-26-2008, 10:49 AM	#30
s13dan Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,519 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	If it was a 2 seater i would say keep it but since its a 4 seater i am saying keep it...i love datsuns __________________ 89 240sx hatch #933-the hot rod 91 240sx coupe #131,603-the daily