the perfect coilovers?

[sicknamehere]

so for everyone that says you can't get good coils for less than $900, you're idiots. my friend just got a set of barely used stance gr+'s for $700. the guy bought them new about a year ago, put them on his car and drove it around for about a month. then went to school and left the car parked in a garage. he needed money so he sold them. just because something is expensive new, doesn't mean you can't get a good deal on them used. people just can't wait to flame someone for asking a simple question

[PoorMans180SX]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Feal 411 coilovers. Odi is a cool guy and knows how to properly valve coilovers.

Feal Suspension, Inc. - Feal 441 Coilover kit (Nissan)

Other than that, Fortune or PSM pro coils. I don't think Stance are anything special.

Don't cheap out. Why does everyone need everything so fast? Wait, have some patience, and you'll realize how much better off you are after you have a nice car with nice parts.

[zooopreme]

Originally Posted by sicknamehere

so for everyone that says you can't get good coils for less than $900, you're idiots. my friend just got a set of barely used stance gr+'s for $700. the guy bought them new about a year ago, put them on his car and drove it around for about a month. then went to school and left the car parked in a garage. he needed money so he sold them.

Damnit, Florida.

Yeah, we're idiots for wanting to buy new with warranties/free rebuilds. I could very easily clean up a set of coilovers, brand it "barely used/ scratches from installation wear", and sell it as such.

Stance coils? Lol.

Oh & do you want a cookie for your friend scoring on "barely used" coilovers?

[The Dude]

Bad news, bro. Stance is shit as well.

[DJ-of-E]

Originally Posted by BKdaMoRoN

Bad news, bro. Stance is shit as well.

Depends on what you get, but for the price range....yah they are crap.

Can we /close thread already?

[240zach]

Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

Can we /close thread already?

+1 on that post

[FU12]

These threads are usually closed by now. Guess the mods are enjoying their friday.

[SlideOrDie831]

fortune auto.........end of story.

[RedSiBaron]

majority of people on this forum just want to do whatever it takes to dump their car as low as it will go.

if you are looking for performance, you have to pay for it, if you dont care, any of the cheaper brands with a warranty will do. if you want quality and actually engineered performance, tein is probably your best bet, i regret not buying from them for my first street setup. Function Form has a really good warranty as well, but its the same chinese made coilover as anything youll find under 1400 short of tein or apexi.

other than that, you really need to just deal with your stock ride height car and wait until you save enough pennies for the good stuff like fortune if you want something quality.

or if you dont care about dumping your car on its frame, and care more about performance, all of these coilovers are junk in terms of dampening when compared to konis. add Ground Control sleeves and eibach springs, and then you have a big boy's suspension.

it wont be dorifto cool, but its a setup that has been proven time and time again on the track by scca national champions for its performance and reliability.

[DJ-of-E]

Originally Posted by RedSiBaron

mor if you dont care about dumping your car on its frame, and care more about performance, all of these coilovers are junk in terms of dampening when compared to konis. add Ground Control sleeves and eibach springs, and then you have a big boy's suspension.

it wont be dorifto cool, but its a setup that has been proven time and time again on the track by scca national champions for its performance and reliability.

Quoted for truth. Koni/GC combination is definitely the best bang for your buck perfomrance. I worked with Motion Control suspension on other cars and they literally will change how your car feels and how one feels about suspension. However, they're freaken $6000 coilover system.

[PoorMans180SX]

Originally Posted by RedSiBaron

majority of people on this forum just want to do whatever it takes to dump their car as low as it will go.

if you are looking for performance, you have to pay for it, if you dont care, any of the cheaper brands with a warranty will do. if you want quality and actually engineered performance, tein is probably your best bet, i regret not buying from them for my first street setup. Function Form has a really good warranty as well, but its the same chinese made coilover as anything youll find under 1400 short of tein or apexi.

other than that, you really need to just deal with your stock ride height car and wait until you save enough pennies for the good stuff like fortune if you want something quality.

or if you dont care about dumping your car on its frame, and care more about performance, all of these coilovers are junk in terms of dampening when compared to konis. add Ground Control sleeves and eibach springs, and then you have a big boy's suspension.

it wont be dorifto cool, but its a setup that has been proven time and time again on the track by scca national champions for its performance and reliability.

A couple problems with your post sir.

1. Teins are junk if they aren't custom valved. If you've ever driven a car with Super Drifts or Basics, you know what I'm talking about.

2. Apex'i is made by BC, who also makes BC Racing and Megan, to name a few. BC is based in Taiwan, not China.

I'll third the Koni/GC setup though

[shinobis13hb]

FEAL suspension. Best Coilover. 1350.

[travypoo]

i went with the fortune auto 510s with swift springs with 7 and 9 spring rates. they are amazing so far. car has never felt so good

[xoxide]

Stance arent crap coilovers... Theyre up there with Fortune and PBM. Stewart Leask trusts them enough to run them on his S13, so I think you can trust them to be good enough to run on your street cars.

Tein is over rated.... Ugly too.

[chriskilla2]

Stance is great for dd imo. can get it somewhat stiff if thats your thing.

[blessed.240]

Originally Posted by dreaMervaj

Everyone says that Megan sucks. Lol. I rode on my Megans for 6 years with no problem.

Good luck on your search.

I've been riding on megan tracks for a while. good shit

[KevinEdgar]

Can't wait till these come in, so I can give an honest opinion. I've driven 2 S14s with these coilovers and they were great. But they were friends cars so I didn't wanna slide them.

[FU12]

Good buy, I just wish CA didn't have such a shitty tax rate

[YA DIG]

lots of assholes in here... basically if you dont title it i want to buy coils that are shitty because they arnt name brand they wont be happy. Everybody must be super rich and buy top line shit and hard park like a BOSS. Good buy tho you'll like those alot

[FU12]

Originally Posted by YA DIG

lots of assholes in here... basically if you dont title it i want to buy coils that are shitty because they arnt name brand they wont be happy. Everybody must be super rich and buy top line shit and hard park like a BOSS.

If you call anything between 1-1.5k top of the line your kidding yourself. They're just telling him that for 900 you're not even getting budget coils. I bought PBMs. Thats being cheap compared to top of the line .

[zooopreme]

Originally Posted by KevinEdgar

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Can't wait till these come in, so I can give an honest opinion. I've driven 2 S14s with these coilovers and they were great. But they were friends cars so I didn't wanna slide them.

You bought the comp coils. Your comparison to your shitty ebay stuff will be "These are hella stiffer than my old junk but the stiffness makes me think that these are giving me added performance benefits."

Pro's and Comp's are entirely different & feel different. The only way I can see you remedying this is by increasing the spring rate while revalving to something way softer. But at that point, you should have gone with Pro's instead of Comp's.

Originally Posted by YA DIG

lots of assholes in here... basically if you dont title it i want to buy coils that are shitty because they arnt name brand they wont be happy. Everybody must be super rich and buy top line shit and hard park like a BOSS. Good buy tho you'll like those alot

This entire thread is full of entry level coilovers. And I'll never understand why people knock on "brand names". What is wrong with a company that is known with great prices and service to their products?

You get what you pay for, folks.

[slammed04tsx]

guy posted up today some stance gr+ for 800 shipped hit him up
http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/45437...oilovers.html\
not sure what the difference in the s13 2 s14 just seen them today hope it was helpful

[SlideOrDie831]

it's alright because they don't drive hard enough to tell the difference.

[240zach]

Originally Posted by slammed04tsx

guy posted up today some stance gr+ for 800 shipped hit him up
http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/45437...oilovers.html\
not sure what the difference in the s13 2 s14 just seen them today hope it was helpful

s14 rears are a shitload longer, and the perch bolt holes on s14 fronts is 2mm bigger. only differences. lol and a lot of the damper adjustments on 14s is on the bottom unlike the 13s here its at the top

[RedSiBaron]

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

A couple problems with your post sir.

1. Teins are junk if they aren't custom valved. If you've ever driven a car with Super Drifts or Basics, you know what I'm talking about.

2. Apex'i is made by BC, who also makes BC Racing and Megan, to name a few. BC is based in Taiwan, not China.

I'll third the Koni/GC setup though

Fair enough, my experience with tein is custom valved ones, did not know that about the basics.

As for apexi, i thought they were still japanese based production, oops.

For my next coils im trying to decide on going koni/gc or fortune...

[YA DIG]

Originally Posted by FU12

If you call anything between 1-1.5k top of the line your kidding yourself. They're just telling him that for 900 you're not even getting budget coils. I bought PBMs. Thats being cheap compared to top of the line .

Ohhh i think i understand now so all the big name brand are just budget stuff ok ok thats why everybody says everything is shit because their all budget items not top line which means everything is shit unless they're the absolute best. its clear now.

[DenkiMan!]

Originally Posted by thefro526

2) Buy some used coilovers. I got the Kei Office's on my S13 for $700 used in good condition and they ride better than all of the BC, Megan, D2, equipped cars I've been in/driven. Got used Stance's on the S14 from the previous owner, he bought those used for like $800 and they're solid.

this right here, thats what i did i got lucky enough to get a set of used kei office type gu's in incredible condition for my s14 for 950 shipped and they ride better than most, my friend who has cusco zero 2r's even likes them better.

i dont know why people are saying its beyond the realm of human capability and understanding to acquire a decent coilover setup for 900. i passed on deals for almost 2 years before i decided on buying these and im glad i did. not going to say theyre perfect because no suspension setup is for this price range, but they are just damn good for the streets and for going sideways

[PoorMans180SX]

Originally Posted by RedSiBaron

Fair enough, my experience with tein is custom valved ones, did not know that about the basics.

As for apexi, i thought they were still japanese based production, oops.

For my next coils im trying to decide on going koni/gc or fortune...

You should look at FEAL.

[FU12]

Originally Posted by YA DIG

Ohhh i think i understand now so all the big name brand are just budget stuff ok ok thats why everybody says everything is shit because their all budget items not top line which means everything is shit unless they're the absolute best. its clear now.

Ok...go buy some godspeeds, come back and tell of how good they are.

Originally Posted by zooopreme

Pro's and Comp's are entirely different & feel different. The only way I can see you remedying this is by increasing the spring rate while revalving to something way softer. But at that point, you should have gone with Pro's instead of Comp's.

Comps don't feel bad although Im sure they're a hell of a lot stiffer than pros though. Are the pro's a still stiff compared to other coils?

[RedSiBaron]

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

You should look at FEAL.

I definitely will, why do you suggest them?