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Royal_T · 07-27-2011, 05:28 PM

Okay it is time for me to start this build thread. First I would like to say this has been a long time coming and I just can't wait for the finish product to be done. I will do this build in stages and tell you everything, from building the engine to suspension work. I will also make note of how much everything cost since that is a big deal for everyone that wants to do an LS build. I will post an update once a week with pics so there will be something to look at..And last but not least I will post a beer of the week, since I love crafted beers:thumbup: So lets get started!!

Wanted to post this pic here.. Some of you know my car and some of you don't. but it has been through so many wheels/looks its not funny.. But it will not look like this any more and hopefully the last change.....

STAGE 1: Phase 1...'Engine tear down and clean up'

Let's start this with the beer of the week.. One of my Favs 'DogFish Head 90 Min' Good stuff

First thing was the purchase of this LS1 longblock that I got off of LS1tech.com. You can find a lot of useful info on there so def check it out..

A little dirty but that will all change. Had 38k on it and the owner had the Bottom end torn down by a local machine shop (to check the condition of it which was great still) and had all the bearings replaced, ls6 oil pump installed, ls2 timing chain, ARP rod bolts.. All this for the price of $1500

In my opinion not a bad purchases since I plan on changing and adding a lot of aftermarket parts..

First thing I saw was this little chip on the crank balancer pulley.. a no go in my book and will get replaced...

Now lets crack open these heads and see what we have.. To do so you will need a 10mm to unbolt all the head bolts.

Nasty:icon22: I don't like how dirty they are so I will send these off to the machine shop to get cleaned..

To have the heads ready for the machine shop, I went to Advance Auto parts to rent out there Valve Spring Compressor. This is a free service through them and you guys should def take advantage of it.. Just leave a deposit and you get it back when you return it..

Comes with everything you need to get the job done.. It is kind of like a big ass C clamp

I placed a little rubber cap over the end of the compressor so it would not F up the valves..

Lets do this... Gloves are :thumbup:

This is how you use this tool for those that don't know. The Heads have to be off the engine to use this tool.

Placement of the tool

next is getting these damn Valve seals out.. Just use pliers and a lot of force..

Then remove the retainers...

Bam!!! everything is all done and ready to send to machine shop..

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Okay got them back from the machine shop from their bath.. and man does it look so much better.. Price of this service is only $25 a head...

So Build total so far is $1550

Next week: STAGE 1: Phase 2 'Cam/Pulley Install'

Johny5 · 07-27-2011, 06:09 PM

excited to see this thing come back alive

240KA · 07-27-2011, 06:42 PM

nice documentation so far.
last pic....are those valves bent? hah, they're tilting.

95KA-Turbo · 07-27-2011, 06:53 PM

Nice! Hopefully you can do this faster then I did, hahaha!

Corbic · 07-27-2011, 06:54 PM

Needs more pics.

tricky_ab · 07-27-2011, 06:56 PM

This will be a interesting one...

K_style · 07-27-2011, 07:36 PM

Subscribed for sure !

NNOCENT · 07-27-2011, 07:41 PM

Edafe, good to see you on Zilvia bro

Rsidesilvia · 07-27-2011, 08:55 PM

you should've kept those rotiforms! sooo sick.

theianmcdougall · 07-27-2011, 09:41 PM

yea edafe!! glad to see this happen.

Not 100% on this, but i may be getting rid of the s13 to dump some cash in the Z but we'll see.
Either way im not stayin out of texas any time soon

Marcus · 07-27-2011, 10:00 PM

dont get me wrong, im not against the v8. but why? i understand the swap into 240s. the motor that comes with 240s in stock from sucks donkey balls.

the motor that comes with this car isnt all that bad. wouldnt take much to get the vq up to what the ls1 has right?

HS13KLS · 07-27-2011, 10:04 PM

Edafe doin work!! I like this! haha

theianmcdougall · 07-27-2011, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus

dont get me wrong, im not against the v8. but why? i understand the swap into 240s. the motor that comes with 240s in stock from sucks donkey balls.

the motor that comes with this car isnt all that bad. wouldnt take much to get the vq up to what the ls1 has right?

personally the motor that comes in the 03-06 350z's sucks balls
anything over 400whp and you have the build the block,
cost more to build the block and add turbo's than just put a simple V8 in it
plus n/a is more reliable on the track than have to worry about turbos, boost leaks,etc

oh and a stock ls1 has about 100 more whp and torque than vq35de

Tae-Hyun · 07-27-2011, 10:19 PM

Finally Edafe! lol - see you soon

I'll let you know who this is soon - pm me your number.

titopkz505 · 07-27-2011, 10:28 PM

Would love to see the end product!

d-man478 · 07-27-2011, 10:50 PM

Loving the detail in this build thread. I've been helping out otto graven on installing his ls7r. If you have any questions let me know, I can find the answer. lol

junn · 07-27-2011, 10:56 PM

Very nice

Interested to see what mount kit your going with

Sikky????

Marcus · 07-27-2011, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theianmcdougall

personally the motor that comes in the 03-06 350z's sucks balls

didnt know that it sucked that much

Quote:

Originally Posted by theianmcdougall

cost more to build the block and add turbo's than just put a simple V8 in it

really? he's already spent 1500

Quote:

Originally Posted by theianmcdougall

plus n/a is more reliable on the track than have to worry about turbos, boost leaks,etc

ok i feel that

Quote:

Originally Posted by theianmcdougall

oh and a stock ls1 has about 100 more whp and torque than vq35de

cant get 100whp for what he's about to spend?

but if its purely for want of the ls1, thats cool and by all means do it.
i really liked the car when you had the black 19s and the next set. didnt dig the rotiforms too much but like your style

darkzschneider · 07-27-2011, 11:22 PM

subscribed

Royal_T · 07-27-2011, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny5

excited to see this thing come back alive

Thanks bro,, Hope to be out there soon with you.. def miss it... Also hope to live up to your build thread..

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240KA

nice documentation so far.
last pic....are those valves bent? hah, they're tilting.

Thanks bro.. haha no they are not bent.. the table cuts of at the end and it was sitting on the end of it..

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

Nice! Hopefully you can do this faster then I did, hahaha!

hahaha, lets hope... Your build really inspired me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NNOCENT

Edafe, good to see you on Zilvia bro

Thanks bro,, been on here for a while though..

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloody_vert

you should've kept those rotiforms! sooo sick.

Trust me you will like what I have coming..

Quote:

Originally Posted by theianmcdougall

yea edafe!! glad to see this happen.

Not 100% on this, but i may be getting rid of the s13 to dump some cash in the Z but we'll see.
Either way im not stayin out of texas any time soon

Sick bro,, I know what ever you do will look sick.. Can't wait to tear it up with you guys..

Quote:

Originally Posted by theianmcdougall

personally the motor that comes in the 03-06 350z's sucks balls
anything over 400whp and you have the build the block,
cost more to build the block and add turbo's than just put a simple V8 in it
plus n/a is more reliable on the track than have to worry about turbos, boost leaks,etc

oh and a stock ls1 has about 100 more whp and torque than vq35de

McDougal hit it on the money.. I should have explained the reason why I choose the LS over doing twin turbos. Well the main reason is reliability and that LS motors are a dime a dozen. like Mc said the VQ motors are known to blow at around 400hp which is a no go in my book. The cost of build the block and still not having the liability does not sit right with me. Also I have always loved V8s and the amount of torque they put out..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tae-Hyun

Finally Edafe! lol - see you soon

I'll let you know who this is soon - pm me your number.

Okay... hope not a stalker

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-man478

Loving the detail in this build thread. I've been helping out otto graven on installing his ls7r. If you have any questions let me know, I can find the answer. lol

Thanks bro, That is the point of this build to be very detailed, hopping to help out anyone that tries it.. And if I have any questions I will def hit you up.. Thanks for that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by junn

Very nice

Interested to see what mount kit your going with

Sikky????

Yup Sikky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus

didnt know that it sucked that much

really? he's already spent 1500

ok i feel that

cant get 100whp for what he's about to spend?

but if its purely for want of the ls1, thats cool and by all means do it.
i really liked the car when you had the black 19s and the next set. didnt dig the rotiforms too much but like your style

Thanks bro,, I also loved my Black 19s and will soon be back on DPEs in all black.. so stay tune for that update..

One a side note: I am way head of these pics, just wanted to be further along so you guys would not have to wait on pics.. Thought it would be a good idea to do it week by week so I can answer any question that my come my way..

RichieSR20 · 07-28-2011, 12:11 AM

I'm speechless. I can't wait to see how this thing comes out!!!!!

imnotniko · 07-28-2011, 01:04 AM

nice build. i like the way your doing weekly updates.

OBEEWON · 07-28-2011, 07:47 AM

My favorite Z in life ever.

Your style is unmatched, and your flare is above average.

Pimp on.

S14DOOD · 07-28-2011, 08:20 AM

gonna be super sick man, cant wait to see more!

Corbic · 07-28-2011, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theianmcdougall

personally the motor that comes in the 03-06 350z's sucks balls
anything over 400whp and you have the build the block,
cost more to build the block and add turbo's than just put a simple V8 in it
plus n/a is more reliable on the track than have to worry about turbos, boost leaks,etc

oh and a stock ls1 has about 100 more whp and torque than vq35de

Well you don't have to build the block till about 700whp, but you do need rods and pistons to make anything over 400whp safely.

Once people get over 400whp they start having issues, either with the build it's self of just constant BS.
Piston slap, leaking this and that, ideal problems, head lift so forth. Its all well documented.

Not to mention the DE and Rev-Up motors only put 240-246whp to the ground in stock form it's little wonder people are swapping out the minivan motor.

I wish I put my VQ into my 240 an then a LS/JZ into the Z. Oh well.

takyo_style · 07-28-2011, 08:56 AM

lsjuan ftw

turbo2nr · 07-28-2011, 09:07 AM

you sir rock!

its gona be epic cant wait for the finished product!

kouki_steve · 07-28-2011, 09:23 AM

why the 98 block?

known for poor oil galleries,.. try to end up with a 99+

i'll be watching this build as well, hopefully get an ls2 in mine
and join you soon @ the tx drift series next year!
Either way good luck bro, cars inspiring to me as well. ppw ftw!

Royal_T · 07-28-2011, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corbic

Well you don't have to build the block till about 700whp, but you do need rods and pistons to make anything over 400whp safely.

Once people get over 400whp they start having issues, either with the build it's self of just constant BS.
Piston slap, leaking this and that, ideal problems, head lift so forth. Its all well documented.

Not to mention the DE and Rev-Up motors only put 240-246whp to the ground in stock form it's little wonder people are swapping out the minivan motor.

I wish I put my VQ into my 240 an then a LS/JZ into the Z. Oh well.

I agree with u. Any car supporting big HP is def going to run into problems.

By the way my stock Rev-Up threw down 256hp on the dyno. Lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by kouki_steve

why the 98 block?

known for poor oil galleries,.. try to end up with a 99+

i'll be watching this build as well, hopefully get an ls2 in mine
and join you soon @ the tx drift series next year!
Either way good luck bro, cars inspiring to me as well. ppw ftw!

Thanks for the kind words. As for the poor oil consumption. This is taken car of with the new LS6 oil pump and also adding an Acusump to the mix. That in my opinion is a must for LS motors.

kouki_steve · 07-28-2011, 09:57 AM

I was just asking because i saw the perimeter valve cover (early style) = 97 vette or 98 fbody ls1.

Also, its not so much the oil pump. The early block design/oil galleries
were somewhat restricted and didn't flow well. compared to the revised
99 block and even better, ls6 2002 block. Might want to look into that, last thing
you would want is a accusumped lsx still starving for oil.

07-27-2011, 05:28 PM	#1
Royal_T Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: TX Age: 40 Posts: 813 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	LS1 350z Drift Build 'Nuff Said' Okay it is time for me to start this build thread. First I would like to say this has been a long time coming and I just can't wait for the finish product to be done. I will do this build in stages and tell you everything, from building the engine to suspension work. I will also make note of how much everything cost since that is a big deal for everyone that wants to do an LS build. I will post an update once a week with pics so there will be something to look at..And last but not least I will post a beer of the week, since I love crafted beers:thumbup: So lets get started!! Wanted to post this pic here.. Some of you know my car and some of you don't. but it has been through so many wheels/looks its not funny.. But it will not look like this any more and hopefully the last change..... STAGE 1: Phase 1...'Engine tear down and clean up' Let's start this with the beer of the week.. One of my Favs 'DogFish Head 90 Min' Good stuff First thing was the purchase of this LS1 longblock that I got off of LS1tech.com. You can find a lot of useful info on there so def check it out.. A little dirty but that will all change. Had 38k on it and the owner had the Bottom end torn down by a local machine shop (to check the condition of it which was great still) and had all the bearings replaced, ls6 oil pump installed, ls2 timing chain, ARP rod bolts.. All this for the price of $1500 In my opinion not a bad purchases since I plan on changing and adding a lot of aftermarket parts.. First thing I saw was this little chip on the crank balancer pulley.. a no go in my book and will get replaced... Now lets crack open these heads and see what we have.. To do so you will need a 10mm to unbolt all the head bolts. Nasty:icon22: I don't like how dirty they are so I will send these off to the machine shop to get cleaned.. To have the heads ready for the machine shop, I went to Advance Auto parts to rent out there Valve Spring Compressor. This is a free service through them and you guys should def take advantage of it.. Just leave a deposit and you get it back when you return it.. Comes with everything you need to get the job done.. It is kind of like a big ass C clamp I placed a little rubber cap over the end of the compressor so it would not F up the valves.. Lets do this... Gloves are :thumbup: This is how you use this tool for those that don't know. The Heads have to be off the engine to use this tool. Placement of the tool next is getting these damn Valve seals out.. Just use pliers and a lot of force.. Then remove the retainers... Bam!!! everything is all done and ready to send to machine shop.. ...... ... .. . Okay got them back from the machine shop from their bath.. and man does it look so much better.. Price of this service is only $25 a head... So Build total so far is $1550 Next week: STAGE 1: Phase 2 'Cam/Pulley Install' __________________ http://zilvia.net/advertise.html

07-27-2011, 06:09 PM	#2
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07-27-2011, 06:53 PM	#4
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07-27-2011, 06:54 PM	#5
Corbic Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: US Age: 40 Posts: 8,225 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Needs more pics. Last edited by Corbic; 07-27-2011 at 07:45 PM..

07-27-2011, 09:41 PM	#10
theianmcdougall Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: louisiana Age: 34 Posts: 251 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea edafe!! glad to see this happen. Not 100% on this, but i may be getting rid of the s13 to dump some cash in the Z but we'll see. Either way im not stayin out of texas any time soon __________________ 04' silver Z - the super low daily/91' sr swapped PURPLE s13 - track whore

07-27-2011, 06:42 PM	#3
240KA Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: OK Age: 40 Posts: 809 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	nice documentation so far. last pic....are those valves bent? hah, they're tilting.

07-27-2011, 06:56 PM	#6
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07-27-2011, 07:41 PM	#8
NNOCENT Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 510 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Edafe, good to see you on Zilvia bro

07-27-2011, 08:55 PM	#9
Rsidesilvia Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: 951 Posts: 134 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	you should've kept those rotiforms! sooo sick.

07-27-2011, 10:00 PM	#11
Marcus Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Age: 36 Posts: 2,087 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	dont get me wrong, im not against the v8. but why? i understand the swap into 240s. the motor that comes with 240s in stock from sucks donkey balls. the motor that comes with this car isnt all that bad. wouldnt take much to get the vq up to what the ls1 has right?

07-27-2011, 10:04 PM	#12
HS13KLS Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Illinois/California Age: 34 Posts: 1,114 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Edafe doin work!! I like this! haha

07-27-2011, 10:19 PM	#14
Tae-Hyun Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2010 Location: tx Posts: 321 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Finally Edafe! lol - see you soon I'll let you know who this is soon - pm me your number. __________________ I only like you when you give me cookies.

07-27-2011, 10:28 PM	#15
titopkz505 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Miami, FL Age: 31 Posts: 19 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Would love to see the end product!

07-27-2011, 10:50 PM	#16
d-man478 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: GA Age: 34 Posts: 114 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Loving the detail in this build thread. I've been helping out otto graven on installing his ls7r. If you have any questions let me know, I can find the answer. lol

07-27-2011, 10:56 PM	#17
junn Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: lynwood/cpt Posts: 777 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Very nice Interested to see what mount kit your going with Sikky???? __________________

07-27-2011, 11:22 PM	#19
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07-28-2011, 12:11 AM	#21
RichieSR20 Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Temecula Age: 30 Posts: 223 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm speechless. I can't wait to see how this thing comes out!!!!! __________________ FWD LOL

07-28-2011, 01:04 AM	#22
imnotniko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: longisland Age: 32 Posts: 337 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	nice build. i like the way your doing weekly updates.

07-28-2011, 07:47 AM	#23
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07-28-2011, 08:20 AM	#24
S14DOOD Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Antioch,TN Age: 34 Posts: 82 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	gonna be super sick man, cant wait to see more!

07-28-2011, 08:56 AM	#26
takyo_style Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Coon Rapids, MN Age: 36 Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lsjuan ftw

07-28-2011, 09:07 AM	#27
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07-28-2011, 09:23 AM	#28
kouki_steve Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mcallen, tx Posts: 132 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why the 98 block? known for poor oil galleries,.. try to end up with a 99+ i'll be watching this build as well, hopefully get an ls2 in mine and join you soon @ the tx drift series next year! Either way good luck bro, cars inspiring to me as well. ppw ftw!

07-28-2011, 09:57 AM	#30
kouki_steve Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mcallen, tx Posts: 132 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I was just asking because i saw the perimeter valve cover (early style) = 97 vette or 98 fbody ls1. Also, its not so much the oil pump. The early block design/oil galleries were somewhat restricted and didn't flow well. compared to the revised 99 block and even better, ls6 2002 block. Might want to look into that, last thing you would want is a accusumped lsx still starving for oil. Last edited by kouki_steve; 07-28-2011 at 10:40 AM..