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Old 03-23-2014, 03:22 PM   #121
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This is bolt on, has a much greater volume, and doesn't have sealing problems like xcessive's plenums do. I'll take function over form any day of the week... Then again this is zilvia so I can't expect too much.

Not to mention if you send him your runners, rail, and throttle body he will port match the runners, match the rail and throttle body for clearance, and anything else you want for very reasonable prices.
I did one of those on my fwd, I welded it together. That guy has to step up his game.
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I did one of those on my fwd, I welded it together. That guy has to step up his game.
You cobbled yours together from a casting and other loose parts, he is making mine from scratch, not to mention your volume is still less than what mine will be, but hey congrats you can fabricate. I don't have a tig at my house only a mig nor do I have the time to fabricate anything currently. What is yours based off of? Here are more shots of where it starts and how it's put together, not to mention they've run FEA on the design, where is yours?



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You cobbled yours together from a casting and other loose parts, he is making mine from scratch, not to mention your volume is still less than what mine will be, but hey congrats you can fabricate. I don't have a tig at my house only a mig nor do I have the time to fabricate anything currently. What is yours based off of? Here are more shots of where it starts and how it's put together, not to mention they've run FEA on the design, where is yours?



LoL mine is made from trial and error.




It's on a N/A engine not a turbo motor where it's much more critical to get a length that works so you don't lose power all over the place. Lets face it I'd rather use cast parts than put that manifold on my motor. I still think he needs to step up his game.
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Teal check out Advance Motor Mechanics PJ VET S13. If the excessive is not that good I guess anything will work for HP.
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The plenum I am getting was engineered and lot of r&d has been done. It's costing me under $500 with runner port matching, matching my custom fuel rail to it and other requests I made. He has his game in step and I'll happily stand behind it. My car isn't a shop car in any way. Also why waste all that time and effort on an NA fwd setup? I mean if you wanna rev a bunch and deal with traction/torque steer issues go get a honda.
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Fwd or rwd , n/a or turbo its a sr20ve and thats why we have a page on here to DISCUSS NOT BITCH about how good the welds are on a manifold !

Ok that manifold is not the show and shine type , but its gona do the job ! My tuner made one himself (without velocity stack) ... its not the best looking but he's still the fastes 240sx with sr20 in canada ! (1/4mile 8.92sec)

we are going for pj's world record as soon as the snow is gone!




Pj's runs a xcessive that is welded and he is in the 900whp if im not mistaken but he extended the front of the manifold for better throttle body position and maybe more volume !

Hell i went with a mazworx and its probably gona crack so will see how it goes !
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I like that setup, you can tell it's strictly drag with that radiator.
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They Hypertune intake manifold is certainly the loveliest.
http://forum.jdmstyletuning.com/show...equired/page15
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My car isn't a shop car in any way. Also why waste all that time and effort on an NA fwd setup? I mean if you wanna rev a bunch and deal with traction/torque steer issues go get a honda.
I have had this FWD VE way before you even knew what a VE could do. If the effort was too much to do anything then why bother doing it. Rock your "engineered manifold" and I'll rock my peaced together manifold" lol.
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vvl intake

I am using the excessive intake welded also..it seems to be ok...I would like the mazworx one jus don't have the funds right now...I might jus do another excessive with the air horns inside...
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:53 AM   #131
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how come you guys are not taking into consideration plenum shape? there is a reason that manifolds taper as they go towards the rear. it causes pressure to build up evenly above all the ports, without it the rear runners will see more flow than the front runners. so honestly all of those cylinder designs are not very efficient. they will work, you can make power with them, they are the easiest to build, but not the best design....

this is technically one of the best designs for 4cyl motors
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Dual double plenum intake manifolds are where it's at. Yes this is a VE manifold. Made by Bill Washburn



More info on their design: http://www.bufkinengineering.com/intake%20manifolds.htm
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how come you guys are not taking into consideration plenum shape? there is a reason that manifolds taper as they go towards the rear. it causes pressure to build up evenly above all the ports, without it the rear runners will see more flow than the front runners. so honestly all of those cylinder designs are not very efficient. they will work, you can make power with them, they are the easiest to build, but not the best design....

this is technically one of the best designs for 4cyl motors
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i love all the stuff AMS does for 4g63 and evo's !!! that intake is realy nice


i read abit on those twin chamber manifold ... i personnaly dont like the look of them and if Under Suzuki and is s15(with hypertune plenum) has the record on stukuba ... its will be good enough for my street car


you guys can read abit on the design here ... btw this is the best site/thread i found for sr20ve info


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Those are pretty sick. My plenum would work better with a center entrance, but there isn't room. I'm happy with how it turned out and we'll see how it flows. The customer service and support I received from Performance +Plus has been excellent and Matt is definitely there to stand behind his product and anything else you'll need. I ordered my thermal gaskets from excessive last night, and should have some pictures of everything bolted up next week.
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i read abit on those twin chamber manifold ... i personnaly dont like the look of them and if Under Suzuki and is s15(with hypertune plenum) has the record on stukuba ... its will be good enough for my street car


you guys can read abit on the design here ... btw this is the best site/thread i found for sr20ve info


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Actually only just recently did the scorch car goto one of the hypertune ve plenums and new throttle body. For years and years it ran a very early edition normal SR one which they'd adapted themselves to fit the ve head.
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They Hypertune intake manifold is certainly the loveliest.
http://forum.jdmstyletuning.com/show...equired/page15
Same build thread is actually on this forum aswell

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Actually only just recently did the scorch car goto one of the hypertune ve plenums and new throttle body. For years and years it ran a very early edition normal SR one which they'd adapted themselves to fit the ve head.
Its nice to have an Ausi insider XP !!!

I didnt know about the intake manifold ! I saw on facebook that he just went with the same bottom mount manifold as you , but its wraped in foil and it looks like shit
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Its nice to have an Ausi insider XP !!!

I didnt know about the intake manifold ! I saw on facebook that he just went with the same bottom mount manifold as you , but its wraped in foil and it looks like shit
Yeh that manifold is a full kilo lighter than most others and gets the weight of the turbo down low. Last year at wtac they melted the power steering reservoir with no ps cooler and not great heat shelding.

This year they're stepping it up afew notches. The inconel heat shield around the exhaust housing is pretty cool. The wrap around the manifold while probably effective looks pretty average though yeh. :P

Heres a dodgey phone camera shot one of the Hypertune guys took for me back in October when wtac was on. Under checking out the new manifold when it was just finished on my car. I must admit this was quite a buzz.
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Here's the manifold bolted to the engine.
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I have a p11 sr20ve head with damage to a chamber that i am parting out its complete except the valves, cams and all other parts are in great shape.
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Is there a few definitive VE engine threads that you guys would recommend for the fundamentals?
Pretty sure this question was asked & answered on the first page of this thread...
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How long is everyone's solenoid relocation lines? Mazworx kit sells a set that's 24". I am going to put my solenoid block beneath my manifold.
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How long is everyone's solenoid relocation lines? Mazworx kit sells a set that's 24". I am going to put my solenoid block beneath my manifold.
Mine are pretty long. I have my solenoid block mounted below the manifold on the passenger strut tower.
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So around 36"? I'm buying line and what not to make the lines and I'm guesstimating the length I'll need total because my engine isn't in the bay yet.
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Hey Tealsqueal, did you cut part of the headgasket so the oil pump holes would match? I have a sr20det apex'i headgasket and the little tag gets in the way of one of the holes.
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24" will allow you to mount it on the shock tower on the passenger side with room to spare.
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So around 36"? I'm buying line and what not to make the lines and I'm guesstimating the length I'll need total because my engine isn't in the bay yet.
If you're mounting it just north of the starter or slightly infront, 36" should be enough, but I'd buy a bit extra incase something happens with a fitting. Are you running P11 solenoids?

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Yes, you have to trim the headgasket to clear that oil pump cover bolt. Some headgaskets have that provision on them already FYI.
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How long is everyone's solenoid relocation lines? Mazworx kit sells a set that's 24". I am going to put my solenoid block beneath my manifold.
Here is how mine is ! This is a mazworx kit and i cut them to the good lenght for my set-up

Longess is about 17inch
And the other two are around 13inch





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Looks good. Where did all your coolant routing go?

I looped mine after some little modification.



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