Zilvia Gun Thread

[NismoDriverS13]

^^^ LOL!!! "I'll be back!"

that guy is totally into it! haha

[eberle]

S&W 40. VE Sigma FTW

[Bubbles]

Killing in movies and video games is one of the greatest things ever.

If I killed a person in real life, I would be majorly unstoked, even if they were a tard.


But I don't carry so I don't have to worry about it.

[Sleepiedaze]

here are my toys

[tire_machine]

PEOPLE ASK WHY?
Why I Carry a Gun
My old grandpa said to me ‘Son, there comes a time in every man’s life
when he stops bustin’ knuckles and starts bustin’ caps and usually it’s
when he becomes too old to take an ass whoopin.’
I don’t carry a gun to kill people.
I carry a gun to keep from being killed.
I don’t carry a gun to scare people.
I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.
I don’t carry a gun because I’m paranoid.
I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.
I don’t carry a gun because I’m evil.
I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.
I don’t carry a gun because I hate the government.
I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.
I don’t carry a gun because I’m angry.
I carry a gun so that I don’t have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.
I don’t carry a gun because I want to shoot someone.
I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.
I don’t carry a gun because I’m a cowboy.
I carry a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy.
I don’t carry a gun to make me feel like a man.
I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.
I don’t carry a gun because I feel inadequate.
I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.
I don’t carry a gun because I love it.
I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.
Police protection is an oxymoron.
Free citizens must protect themselves.
Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the crime
after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.
Personally, I carry a gun because I’m too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin’…..author unknown (but obviously brilliant)

[heavenboundkevin]

gun store convo went something like this. (springfield armory XD-9)
Owner: so whats this gonna be used for?
Me: oh just some target shooting
Owner:well hey let me sell you some hollowpoints just in case
Me: no man i dont need those
Owner: well what if someone trys to rob you and you shoot them, the bullet goes through the wall and hits an innocent person in the leg, would you rather spend $40 on a box of hollowpoints or $40,000 on a lawyer?
Me: well i dont plan on shooting anybody
Owner: what are you going to do, throw your gun at them?
Me: uhh how about not shoot them?
Owner:

With laws these days, it seems like someone could rape you in the --- catch and STD from you ,and you get sued for it. I love America, but FFFUUUUU!!!!!!

[cc4usmc]

You're going to need $40,000 for legal fees anyway even if you're completely justified in shooting someone... in California.

But then the saying goes.. "I'd rather be judged by twelve then carried by six".

[240Shwag]

Originally Posted by jworks

Same here! Kinda scary if you think about how compact and deadly these guns are getting

Put down the newspaper.

Originally Posted by shade

Guns are getting more concealable, kind of scary. I bet the government is going to keep guns such as those from getting to production. I wonder what law enforcements would do about it. They would probably have their guns drawn everywhere from paranoia if people started owning those.

These can SBR'd for people that enjoy being terrorized by the BATF via paperwork.

Originally Posted by atom

Am I the only one that thought of Robocop 2 when I saw this?

Nope.

Originally Posted by 180sExy

Wow that's dope as hell but scary at the same time. Has anyone seen the pistols that some manufacture is making that look like the toy guns that you can get at the grocery store???? Or the pistol holder that looks like a cup?????

Your scary.

Who cares what it "looks like" or if it transforms into a pile of dogshit and then back. The media did a good job to you.

Toy guns look like real guns. It only goes one way.

Originally Posted by kdashy

I never knew getting the mail could be so dangerous.

Level the playing field. Get one of your own, and get good as using it.

Originally Posted by handinpants

see what a little creativity and alotta meth can do.... nah that things pretty cool. i better if you call them up and harass them and throw some cash their way you'll get one...

Not if you live in the state you do.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Marines.mil :: Official Home of the United States Marine Corps

Free 5.56 for four years.

The only other way you can get it that cheap is buying 500+ rounds from Cheaperthandirt.com or Cabelas or a few other website out there. If you want ammo cheap, you need to buy in bulk. In boxes of a thousand rounds or more is the best way to buy ammo.

Widener's Reloading and Shooting Supply INC
www.ammunition-to-go.com
Midsouth Shooters Supply, Reloading, Air Guns, Optics, Muzzleloaders & Shooting Supplies
aimsuplus.com
Ammunition, Magazines, Rifle Parts and Accessories
SGCUSA.com - SGCUSA.com

Etc etc, there is so many.

Originally Posted by iwishiwas-all*

wtf, that is the most serious gun ive ever seen.

I seriously doubt that.

Originally Posted by Genovese.Jr

carry it if youre walking youre dog that would be against the law it has to be in youre pants hidden you just cant have it out in the open like that but police officers could proubly make good use of it eather way its pretty bad ass

I'm only going to lol at you.

Originally Posted by NismoDriverS13

im russian, i got connections to russian military weapon pile ups. haha. so this is nothing new or interesting.

I had seen and shot multiple variations of the AK and seen some rare and fired some rare guns.....

You should shoot some guns that were made in the USA. Some of them even do this thing called "grouping".

Originally Posted by g-via

I am curious to why people need to carry handguns to protect themselves from day to day transactions (unless for occupational/special reasons).

Guns are cool nonetheless.

Because in some areas of the country, a unarmed person would be considered a "victim" most of the time. I don't know about you, but I would rather dislike that status.

Originally Posted by Mr. Camshaft

You're out of luck. They got hit with a lawsuit from H&K so no more GSG5's for anybody.

They are still in production and AFAIK have very minor changes. H&K sucks.

Originally Posted by lewisfk

Thats awesome!!! Someone tries to mug u while you walk and pow Bitches!!! Its cheaper to feed a criminal a lead sandwich than it is to house them in jail! Please feed the dumb asses of the world!

In most states, this is not the truth. You can fight fire with fire. Even simply pointing a weapon at a person that is not 100% ready to end your life will result in you being changed with aggravated assault with a firearm.

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Killing in movies and video games is one of the greatest things ever.

If I killed a person in real life, I would be majorly unstoked, even if they were a tard.


But I don't carry so I don't have to worry about it.

Definitely. That shit would be sad even killing zombies or something.

[NismoDriverS13]

^^^ actually i have.

m4's
m16's
yada yada yada

they good guns, i just wouldn't take it to a battle unless i want to be caught in a fox hole with a jammed gun in my hand. don't get me wrong they ok to fire but they act like dress queens. any dirt, sand or bugger from ur nose will prevent it from doing its job.

that is why i stand with ak's because they are a True weapon that can withstand the battle and still be a p.o.s. its cheap, its not attractive, but it's got balls to keep doing it's job even after being trashed and full abused!

yes ak's are inaccurate, i'll give u that. but the user has to adapt to every weapon. u have to become good, u can't just be good. i've seen guys shooting ak's with scopes and single fire, still hitting target well beyond 800 feet.

anyways in a fire fight ill pick durability, function, and performance over accuracy, constant jamming and ineffectiveness.

[Skids2212]

^

seeing that is says you live in so cal...I guarantee you have never fired an M4 or an M16 (edit unless you have been in the military). M4 being a 14.5 inch barrel makes it an SBR and Full auto and an M16 just being full auto. I can fire a thousand rounds of silver bear (cheap russian shit ammo) through my AR15 never clean it and it will still keep shooting and grouping on target

[Walperstyle]

I live in canada. I have

CLASSIFIED

america dont let it happen to you.

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

Originally Posted by cc4usmc

You're going to need $40,000 for legal fees anyway even if you're completely justified in shooting someone... in California.

But then the saying goes.. "I'd rather be judged by twelve then carried by six".

I don't have 40k. I'll just give Basil Marceaux $20 and he'll represent me.

But seriously, you have to be arrested and the DA has to have something to charge you with. If someone just breaks into your house and you shoot him you won't be charged. If someone breaks in, sees you, runs out and you shoot him outside then it is a crime in CA. It might not be right, but make sure he dies INSIDE YOUR HOUSE!

[240Shwag]

Originally Posted by NismoDriverS13

^^^ actually i have.

m4's
m16's
yada yada yada

they good guns, i just wouldn't take it to a battle unless i want to be caught in a fox hole with a jammed gun in my hand. don't get me wrong they ok to fire but they act like dress queens. any dirt, sand or bugger from ur nose will prevent it from doing its job.

that is why i stand with ak's because they are a True weapon that can withstand the battle and still be a p.o.s. its cheap, its not attractive, but it's got balls to keep doing it's job even after being trashed and full abused!

yes ak's are inaccurate, i'll give u that. but the user has to adapt to every weapon. u have to become good, u can't just be good. i've seen guys shooting ak's with scopes and single fire, still hitting target well beyond 800 feet.

anyways in a fire fight ill pick durability, function, and performance over accuracy, constant jamming and ineffectiveness.

Hey, its 2010, not 1970. I (and many many others) have mulitple ARs that have never jammed.

The M16 platformed has spawned almost as many varients as AKs.

[cc4usmc]

Originally Posted by Mi Beardo es Loco

If someone just breaks into your house and you shoot him you won't be charged.

Is that just hearsay or are you getting your information from a legitimate source?

[NismoDriverS13]

Originally Posted by Skids2212

^

seeing that is says you live in so cal...I guarantee you have never fired an M4 or an M16 (edit unless you have been in the military). M4 being a 14.5 inch barrel makes it an SBR and Full auto and an M16 just being full auto. I can fire a thousand rounds of silver bear (cheap russian shit ammo) through my AR15 never clean it and it will still keep shooting and grouping on target

i travel places, gun expos, full auto shoot outs, etc. just sayin that my fave is ak's and no others. so flame me all u want with ur bs and ur m4 and m16 but u will never change my mind on what i stand.

Originally Posted by 240Shwag

Hey, its 2010, not 1970. I (and many many others) have mulitple ARs that have never jammed.

The M16 platformed has spawned almost as many varients as AKs.

yea well ak is from 1947's and till this day still is the most produced weapon in the world unlike ur m16's from 1970's. that gun was made cheap and effective. not like the m16, ak is easier to strip and clean.

m16 doesn't have many variants. it has m16 (m16a1-m16a4), m4 and thats about it.

i can see u are more of a patriot than a gun lover.

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by NismoDriverS13

i travel places, gun expos, full auto shoot outs, etc. just sayin that my fave is ak's and no others. so flame me all u want with ur bs and ur m4 and m16 but u will never change my mind on what i stand.



yea well ak is from 1947's and till this day still is the most produced weapon in the world unlike ur m16's from 1970's. that gun was made cheap and effective. not like the m16, ak is easier to strip and clean.

m16 doesn't have many variants. it has m16 (m16a1-m16a4), m4 and thats about it.

i can see u are more of a patriot than a gun lover.

So, all your "knowledge" is hearsay.

AK is not easier to field strip and clean. Over 2x as many parts to remove and lose. Getting a blood blister from replacing the cover back on the receiver is always fun.

[cc4usmc]

Originally Posted by S14DB

Getting a blood blister from replacing the cover back on the receiver is always fun.

Couldn't find the pic I wanted, but, maybe you'll get what I'm sayin.

[240Shwag]

Originally Posted by NismoDriverS13

i can see u are more of a patriot than a gun lover.

This is true. Do you reside within the USA or not?

However, AK has nothing to do with the country.
There is SIXTEEN major manufactures of AKs in the United States and plenty more home made guns. I don't really give a shit who designed it, so long as it made within my home land.

The design is cheap and old. It can be made without any major tooling and even without electricity. It shows this in the end product. This is a null point to you however, because your not the one making them.

You get what you pay for.

AR15s are chambered in a variety of catridges.
These are just the ones that are available with 5 clicks of a mouse to buy:
.22
5.56nato/.223 rem
6.5 grendal
6.8spc
.50 beowolf
.204 ruger
7.62 x 39
5.45 x 39
6mm
.458 Socom
.450 Bushmaster
9mm
.45 ACP
And so on...

And then on top of all of that, you have the larger frame AR10 platform which provides for another slew of chamberings.
FN Scar, HK 416, ACR, etc are all rifles that use eugene stoner's locking lug rotating bolt. These rifles are spawned from the M16/M4.
And on top of that, the recent explosion of gas piston conversion kits/complete gas piston rifles just adds more icing.

[Krimlin]

Mosin Nagant M44
16" ASP baton
Blackhawk! Tac vest
Taurus .375 revolver
Glock Knife
Glock 23 .40 cal (I now have a 32 round mag for it )
H&K MP5 armorer's manual (pretty rare)
Bushmaster AR-15 that's FAR from stock, I'll post a mod list if you like
Mossberg 500 12 ga.

I've made some additions to that since then

[midnightouge]

[Krimlin]

Badass stock for your Mosin Nagant.

Custom?

[midnightouge]

It's an ATI stock.
I saw it at a gun show for $60 so i had to picked it up.

Here's their site.
Advanced Technology International USA - Mosin Nagant

[HalveBlue]

Originally Posted by cc4usmc

"I'd rather be judged by twelve then carried by six".

Ah, jury came back with a guilty verdict, eh?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[GabeS14]

Anyone interested in buying Green/Blue/red lasers for using mounted to your guns hit me up in pm.
I have anything from 10mw all the way to 700mw

from 100mwthen 200mw then 300mw pictures posted in order below.




for you military guys, walking into a building at night, you can see anything you point it at, and it blinds anyone else on the recieving end.
it literaly stuns and momentarily blinds them.
for casual gun users and hunters, I recommend the infrared or 5mw-30mw.
unless you are planning on burning holes into mooses back lol.

[S14DB]

FDA legal?

[GabeS14]

Originally Posted by S14DB

FDA legal?

the only rule there is against lasers is that it is illegal to market a laser above 5mw as a laser pointer, they must be sold as hand held lasers.
but keep in mind that, if you shine this in a public place there is a chance a cop is going to stop you very quicklly, because they are so bright they are going to say you used it as a weapon of some sort.

It is illegal also to point one at any moving object such as a vehicle,helicopter, airplane etc... or person.

Some of my close friends in Iraq use the infrared one with their NVG's and a couple use these more powerfull greens whenever going into buildings. they claim people scream in terror because of the sudden flash" as if they were seeing aliens lol

[heavenboundkevin]

Those green lasers are no joke. police helicopters get called when someone shines them at our aircraft.

does anyone in san diego have any semi auto rifles i can try out? i have a pistol if you want to shoot that. I have never shot a rifle except for when i was in a wheelchair so i want to see if im any good.

[robbie2883]

gabes14 hit me up with some prices. i've been thinking about one of these for my next AR build

[robbie2883]

Originally Posted by midnightouge

i can haz?

[robbie2883]

Originally Posted by eberle

S&W 40. VE Sigma FTW

that's the new edition sigma right? i used to have a sigma. loved the accuracy but hated the trigger