The 2020 Presidential Race

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by midnight zenki

That’s what they said about your nut job too.

But my "nutjob" is the actual president and is doing a great job. Hes not out here tryn to strip the rights from the american people......

[lewisfk]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

But my "nutjob" is the actual president and is doing a great job. Hes not out here tryn to strip the rights from the American people......

Great job, I question that! He was given a great economy and is slowly fucking it up! The Fed cut interest rates yet again to spark the sluggish economy. The stocks are all over the damn place with no consistency, and investors are scared. He continues to solicit help from foreign countries after been warned through the Muller investigation. I have faith he will fuck up the economy just like the majority of his business in the late 80s and 90s causing him to file bankruptcy 4 separate times.

[midnight zenki]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

But my "nutjob" is the actual president and is doing a great job. Hes not out here tryn to strip the rights from the american people......

Is he doing a great job? https://youtu.be/obn9wh67HJM. He may not be stripping your constitutional rights but he is making you an economically disadvantaged bitch. What direct good has he done for you with his policies, how has he made your bank account fatter? Not too many top 1% business tycoons on this forum last I checked.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by midnight zenki

Is he doing a great job? https://youtu.be/obn9wh67HJM. He may not be stripping your constitutional rights but he is making you an economically disadvantaged BITCH

yup seems legit

My tax breaks are sweet.......thanks trump

[lewisfk]

What tax breaks, I'm paying the highest taxes ever! He fucked every military member when he took away the ability to itemize and deduct clothing, dry-cleaning, mileage, and a whole list of shit.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by lewisfk

What tax breaks, I'm paying the highest taxes ever! He fucked every military member when he took away the ability to itemize and deduct clothing, dry-cleaning, mileage, and a whole list of shit.

My family and myself are doing quiet well under trumps terms. Didnt state its worked for everyone. Im not really too concerned about others. He gets my vote again


Guess were in diffrent classes

[RalliartRsX]

I gotzzz mines so fuck all yall! Problem??

It's a good thing those tax breaks don't sunset...…….for the top 1% that is. If I am 1%, I gotzzzz minesss, so fuck all yall!! Problem?? Why yall's not rich?? It's America right?? American dream right??

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

I gotzzz mines so fuck all yall! Problem??

It's a good thing those tax breaks don't sunset...…….for the top 1% that is. If I am 1%, I gotzzzz minesss, so fuck all yall!! Problem?? Why yall's not rich?? It's America right?? American dream right??

But the ones in the 1% dont ask why the rest arent rich.....


Only poor people BELEVE in the american dream...the rich LIVE it.



This is the america we live in. It will never change..

[RalliartRsX]

American dream

30 year home loan, 10 year student loan and 7 year car loan......and if that didn't keep you poor, you can also go bankrupt from a paper cut....


#amirite

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

American dream

30 year home loan, 10 year student loan and 7 year car loan......and if that didn't keep you poor, you can also go bankrupt from a paper cut....


#amirite

America #greatest country in the world!

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

American dream

30 year home loan, 10 year student loan and 7 year car loan......and if that didn't keep you poor, you can also go bankrupt from a paper cut....


#amirite

Yet, in spite of these and other imperfections, over a million people risk literal life and limb to migrate here every year. And, after they're here they still think its worth it and are extremely grateful. It seems your privilege of being born here doesn't allow you to see this great country the same way.

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Yet, in spite of these and other imperfections, over a million people risk literal life and limb to migrate here every year. And, after they're here they still think its worth it and are extremely grateful. It seems your privilege of being born here doesn't allow you to see this great country the same way.

……...I wasn't born here and emigrated here in my teens. My family understood the opportunities this land allowed, especially in terms of education and my parents made sure, education was drilled into our heads and that allowed us to flourish as a family while living within our means (however, that doesn't mean we do not understand loan/investments, like ownership of a house for instance and why our generation were able to purchase houses at a fairly early age and not driving the latest 60-70K hotness because.....I do not hard park). My mom never finished highschool and only got her GED degree at the age of ~53. She got her BS a few years later...which this country so kindly allowed

So before you make another snap judgement, please kindly take your time to use the opportunities as presented in this great country (like Google) to understand sarcasm.....

Thanks!

[S14rebuild]

U can build a mudhut for free.....

[RalliartRsX]

……..Ignorance is bliss??

Yeah, same same. America dream! Huuuhhhaaaa!!

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

……...I wasn't born here and emigrated here in my teens. My family understood the opportunities this land allowed, especially in terms of education and my parents made sure, education was drilled into our heads and that allowed us to flourish as a family while living within our means (however, that doesn't mean we do not understand loan/investments, like ownership of a house for instance and why our generation were able to purchase houses at a fairly early age and not driving the latest 60-70K hotness because.....I do not hard park). My mom never finished highschool and only got her GED degree at the age of ~53. She got her BS a few years later...which this country so kindly allowed

So before you make another snap judgement, please kindly take your time to use the opportunities as presented in this great country (like Google) to understand sarcasm.....

Thanks!

Huh, and in spite of all that you still seem to hate this country.

[lewisfk]

"I understand the military. I know the military." - Donald Trump. Then he passes tax bill that screws a great portion of them! If you are doing well, G-BLESS U! I'm just scratching my head over his decisions.


https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/tax-ref...eir-deductions

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Huh, and in spite of all that you still seem to hate this country.

So thanks for proving ignorance is bliss.....
Please go ahead and point out
a) Where ever said I hated this country
b) Anything of my statements made on this page are false

I am 100% certain you cannot point this out. Why?? Because it is a flat out inaccurate and false statement. Just because I am not a fan of this current administration, does not equate to me hating this country. If you think the two are on in the same, then with the same disdain you carry for Obama, I can label you a domestic terrorist in that same breath.

See how that works?? Good.

Carry on.

[RalliartRsX]

Ps trump didn't even bother to have the troops he pulled from Syria even bother to actually leave Syria.

Wtf.....mr bonespurs himself which dodged the service

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

So thanks for proving ignorance is bliss.....
Please go ahead and point out
a) Where ever said I hated this country
b) Anything of my statements made on this page are false

I am 100% certain you cannot point this out. Why?? Because it is a flat out inaccurate and false statement. Just because I am not a fan of this current administration, does not equate to me hating this country. If you think the two are on in the same, then with the same disdain you carry for Obama, I can label you a domestic terrorist in that same breath.

See how that works?? Good.

Carry on.

My bad, you just support a party that hates this country. It’s history, which it tries to rewrite and erase. Its people, outside of the coastal elite that they look down their noses at. It’s constitution, that is not being amended formally but in public opinion fed by the biased accomplice media.

I never hated Obama. In fact I almost voted for him for his first term. I disagreed with his politics, but I was willing to give him a shot because the Hope and Change he talked about sounded amazing. And even though I didn’t vote for him I defended him through most of his first term. It really wasn’t until he chose dividing this country countless times instead of bringing us together that I lost respect for him. But shit, seeing how far to the left the Democrats have moved almost have me missing Obama’s Left of center views. I agree almost fully with. his comments last week.

“The world is messy; there are ambiguities,” he continued. “People who do really good stuff have flaws. People who you are fighting may love their kids, and share certain things with you.”

“I do get a sense sometimes now among certain young people, and this is accelerated by social media, there is this sense sometimes of: ‘The way of me making change is to be as judgmental as possible about other people,’” he said, “and that’s enough.”

So I assumed you were born here. You assumed I hate Obama. No one is perfect. I didn’t pretend I am though.

[RalliartRsX]

Assumption and snap baseless accusations are like assholes, everyone has one...…..

And it seems you picked up on that point via your last sentence.

And atleast we share a common ground now as I am also in some agreement with Obama's statements. So indirectly he has united us under one umbrella

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

The Democrats haven't moved left. You've likely moved right.

Bernie, AOC and a couple others represent what would be considered fairly centrist ideas in most of Europe.

The rest of the Democratic field running for President is pretty standard centrist/neoliberal/republican in dem's clothing.

You need not hate America to criticize it. Truly loving America is wanting to leave it better than you inherited it.

You gotta be blind, deaf, and dumb if u dont think the dems have moved more left...... smh

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Future240]

Even Wapo says the dems have moved left.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/magaz...n/?arc404=true
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/24/polit...oll/index.html
https://www.investors.com/politics/e...-extreme-left/

Some opinon pieces

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/o...rats-left.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/04/o...ogressive.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/o...democrats.html

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Future240]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

So let's see:

WaPo piece touches upon a few democrats who represent the far left edge of the party.

CNN is a poll of the opinion of the average American voter. A woefully uninformed group. BTW, this quote here: "Almost 6 in 10 men (57%) say Democrats have moved too far left as do 55% of whites with a college degree." Those are Trump voters saying that lol. Their opinions should not inform democratic policy positions.

Investors.com is just not something I want to give the click to for ad revenue stuff.

NYT opinion pieces are a scourge. David Brooks, Bret Stephens, etc., are too busy infecting the NYT offices with bed bugs to have any decent takes.

A FEW members of the party are trying to pull the party left (as they should), but the party itself is not really any further left than it was a few years ago.

Look at how few democrats have actually COMMITTED to saying they support single payer healthcare. Look at how few democrats are opposed to sending weapons to Saudi Arabia to commit atrocities in Yemen, in a coalition with Al-Qaeda. Etc.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/12/polit...ars/index.html


https://qz.com/1580091/alexandria-oc...ats-are-going/

^^^ That one has some really good graphs showing policy.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

The Democrats haven't moved left. You've likely moved right.

I’m sorry, but you are out of touch or in denial.

Period.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[exitspeed]

You and reality aren’t on the same page. Sorry man. Robert Johnson definitely thinks you’re wrong. I doubt there’s even another person who agrees with you politically in this thread that that doesn’t agree that the Democrat party hasn’t moved far left. It’s literally one (not THE) of the reasons Trump is in office. I personally know lifetime democrats that are voting trump in 2020 because they don’t recognize their own party. Most down to earth Americans are sick of identity politics and a not in favor of socialist policies. Hence, Trump. The Left is doubling down on these policies. Hell even people like Warren, Biden, Hilary are FAR more left than they ever have been in their careers. Their track records show that. Their being pushed that way by the far left socialists that are taking over the party like AOC and the gang. Here’s a quote from a very outspoken lefty I work with a few weeks ago regarding identity politics and political correctness gone awry “you want trump to fucking win in 2020, keep this shit up. I consider myself a Liberal but some of this shit is too much”. I didn’t say shit I just raised my endows like “indeed”.