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Originally Posted by kingkilburn
I'm not going to argue with you and your ridiculous ideas on political theory.
What I will do is set you straight on some chain of events.
We have been socialist since the founding of our country. Socialism only became a dirty word when the neocons took hold of the government and likened it to communism ignoring the fact that they themselves were more socialist than the totalitarian military dictatorships they were fighting.
Even though I said I wouldn't do this I'll give you a little, socialism is when we all pay in and we all get benefits. We both use the roads, parks, CLEAN WATER, radio, tv, schools, even the FDA and USDA are great when they actually do their jobs, and we can't forget the social medicine we do provide(VA health system) is some of the best in the world. None of that is robin hoodesque wealth redistribution and ALL of it was created under real bipartisanship.
Back to chain of events again. We were the most prosperous nation the worlds history until when exactly? Oh that's right GEORGE MOTHER FUCKING BUSH. Lets repeal all controls on the most important industries to our currency's security. Lets jump right into two wars with no positive outcome and fire any and all generals that aren't on board. Lets spend like there's no tomorrow, it's not like I'll have to worry about it after my second term. We to go Bush jr. You turned a solid up swing in the economy into bursting bubble that caused a multi industry crash that very nearly destroyed the country and may yet still destroy the currency.
Do you honestly think Obama reached out through time and did that? The worst I can say of Obama is he hasn't done enough. Then again how could he with republicans blocking his every move, even when it's a republican move.
P.S.
Religion in schools was settled before your parents were born. Find your own battles. Don't rely and their rhetoric to define you and what you find important.
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Yes you are a liberal by the way. Anyone who supports Obama is a liberal. Socialism is a THEORY just like Communism. It works IN THEORY. Unlike Democrats and Liberals, George Bush and his "comrades" were only-
You know what? All you are doing is acting like a typical liberal, you ignored- actually all you said to my first large post was "I wish I could take you seriously". You have NO ability to argue your points. All you do is turn it around and blame the same shit on a Republican. You are trying to argue lies as truth. I'm arguing Truth as Truth. Only one can come out on top and the Truth always wins, with enough time. Didn't do
enough? ENOUGH? He hasn't done ANYTHING. The Republicans stop him because they believe in the traditional beliefs that MADE THE COUNTRY PROSPER. Obama is a fascist. He doesn't care about you. Or me. Or- how do you feel about gas prices exactly? You live in California, it must be 6 bucks down there. You going to find a liberal way to blame some Republican for that although it was Obama to veto the pipeline? He will sign it right before November. A president that has a good record doesn't need to strategically make himself look good. Eric Holder? Have you heard of him? He tells states they can't have voter I.D. laws so the illegals can't vote (which they need to WIN, the election). He TELLS THEM they can't. THAT is communism. The president and his people can not tell states what they can and can not do. What's your liberal response to why all this is happening?