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Old 02-21-2007, 07:59 AM   #163
Cashizslick
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tknbkthrsdy4anfg
Cash- I dont know about that, hopefully its not so.
Well . . in the states, it is illegal to put a motor in your car if it is older than the car itself.

Even if a 1993 KA motor passes smog, its illegal to put it into your 1994 240.

Now, ok, it doesnt REALLY matter because the OBD systems are the same, but the problem becomes magnified when you try to put an OBD I motor in an OBD II car.

OBD II was placed on all cars after 1996 as a requirement by the EPA. It is currently illegal to remove or modify this system. *See Bold Print Below*

Quote:
Originally Posted by EPA
Sec. 203. (a) The following acts and the causing thereof are
prohibited-

(1) in the case of a manufacturer of new motor vehicles or
new motor vehicle engines for distribution in commerce, the
sale, or the offering for sale, or the introduction, or
delivery for introduction, into commerce, or (in the case of
any person, except as provided by regulation of the Adminis-
trator), the importation into the United States, of any new
motor vehicle or new motor vehicle engine, manufactured
after the effective date of regulations under this part
which are applicable to such vehicle or engine unless such
vehicle or engine is covered by a certificate of conformity
issued (and in effect) under regulations prescribed under
this part or part C in the case of clean-fuel vehicles
(except as provided in subsection (b));
(2)(A) for any person to fail or refuse to permit access
to or copying of records or to fail to make reports or
provide information required under section 208;
(B) for any person to fail or refuse to permit entry,
testing or inspection authorized under section 206(c) or
section 208;
(C) for any person to fail or refuse to perform tests, or
have tests performed as required under section 208;
(D) for any manufacturer to fail to make information
available as provided by regulation under section 202(m)(5);
(3)(A) for any person to remove or render inoperative any
device or element of design installed on or in a motor
vehicle or motor vehicle engine in compliance with regula-
tions under this title prior to its sale and delivery to the
ultimate purchaser, or for any person knowingly to remove or
render inoperative any such device or element of design
after such sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser;
or
(B) for any person to manufacture or sell, or offer to
sell, or install, any part or component intended for use
with, or as part of, any motor vehicle or motor vehicle
engine, where a principal effect of the part or component is
to bypass, defeat, or render inoperative any device or
element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle or
motor vehicle engine in compliance with regulations under
this title, and where the person knows or should know that
such part or component is being offered for sale or
installed for such use or put to such use;
Here is the link to this text http://www.epa.gov/air/caa/caa203.txt


Basically, the EPA would have to change their standards to allow SR's to be legal in 1996-1998 S14's for the simple fact that installation of an SR20DET will render the OBDII system (placed on the vehicle by the EPA) useless.
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