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azndummie
07-16-2013, 02:32 PM
Hi Everyone,

As you know, I run the Nissan competition series alongside Corner3 Garage and Extreme speed track events!

Keep in mind this is a Time trial type of competition run in conjunction with an HPDE and the times at the end of the day are put together to provide us the winners/rankings.

I drive an S14 myself so, naturally, I wanted to include the 240sx/S-Chassis community in our efforts to get more cars out to the track and have some fun!

I was thinking about creating a class Specifically for NA 240sx's/Silvia's.

Who here would be interested?

As for rules I would like some people to chime in, but this is what I was thinking.(Not everyone is going to agree)


1. Naturally Aspirated KA or SR
2. Street tires only Must be DOT rated. (No UTQG required for test season)
3. Exhaust mods are open(headers to catback)
4. Only 1 or 2 way coilovers are allowed(rebound or rebound/compression)
5. Suspension arms/pickup points are open.
6. Brake mods are open
7. Safety mods are open
8. Camshaft mods are open
9. Chassis must retain original unibody(No spaceframes allowed just in case GKtech decides to finish their project and someone buys one! LOL)
10. Aero mods are open

I'm also on the fence about built motors/High comp NA motors.

I will be starting the competition with a test season this year!

First event will be August 24th!

6.Track Day @Streets of Willow(NIGHT)- August 24th
7.Track Day @Chuckwalla Raceway- Sep 29th
8.Track Day @Nov 24th AAA Speedway Roval
9.Track Day @Dec 8th Buttonwillow


-Mike

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hOngsterr
07-16-2013, 02:40 PM
It doesn't hurt to start one.

Solomansy
07-16-2013, 02:45 PM
It doesn't hurt to start one.

I agree... ALL STOCK CHASSIS ARE OPEN? =]

Maxstyle
07-16-2013, 02:48 PM
Do a Spec Miata type ruling. Untouched motor with limited chassis modification.

tacotacotaco
07-16-2013, 02:54 PM
It would be nice to open up the rules on the motor to promote some developement on the KA NA.

azndummie
07-16-2013, 02:59 PM
It would be nice to open up the rules on the motor to promote some developement on the KA NA.

Definitely agree on this.

Maybe I can get Tomei on as a sponsor with all of their newly developed KA parts.

We already have OS Giken, Swift springs, Corner3 garage, and Berk Technology as sponsors for this year!

-Mike

Hellother
07-16-2013, 02:59 PM
Pro 7 rules. Keeps the playing field level and cheap. Aka more people can stand a competitive chance.

Hellother
07-16-2013, 03:00 PM
Or run a limited and open class

Boss240
07-16-2013, 03:42 PM
I would love to see an event like this happen.

Maxstyle
07-16-2013, 03:44 PM
Pro 7 rules. Keeps the playing field level and cheap. Aka more people can stand a competitive chance.

Great Idea.

SD_Kouki
07-16-2013, 03:44 PM
so any stock sr20det with a t25 doesn't qualify....this is strictly NA - ka24de, sr20de, ka24e etc....correct?

tacotacotaco
07-16-2013, 03:48 PM
No ka Sr. Naturally aspirated no forced induction

blackrms13
07-16-2013, 04:28 PM
nice

this is what I'm building my new hatch for!

DJ-of-E
07-16-2013, 04:40 PM
I would be interested in this one, but to be fair, you have to assess the market and average participants.

Being an NA KA/SR mod, the consideration of weight is extremely important. i'm actually all for the enthusiast class rules with point system. You want to balance out between $10,000 budget KA N/A build car and those full "garage sponsored" teams. This is a new class and it is introductory so alienation would suck so bad.

cmcdougle
07-16-2013, 07:57 PM
If I pop an SR in my ranger can that count as close enough?

:facepalm:

Guitar Nut
07-16-2013, 08:22 PM
catback/intake. all the power we need lol. This would be fun though, I would be down.

autobahNESSA
07-16-2013, 11:52 PM
It would be nice to open up the rules on the motor to promote some developement on the KA NA.

Yes! And count me in for this class when it comes to life.

EDacIouSX
07-17-2013, 12:34 AM
I am kind of interested. I have some moneys coming in soon....


nice

this is what I'm building my new hatch for!

your car will never be done.... and you know why. :(

tacotacotaco
07-20-2013, 01:43 PM
I think motor should be unlimited to push developement on the KA as long as it is NA and no NAAS. Suspension should be open along with aero. Put a cap on tires. Should be interesting since tires and power will be the limiting factors.

Scope240sx
07-20-2013, 02:16 PM
Would this be for 2014?
I'm interested in this

azndummie
07-22-2013, 01:19 PM
I will be starting these competition with a test season this year!

First event will be August 24th!

SLiguykyle
07-22-2013, 05:09 PM
my car's not done yet, but once it is oh man oh man how i would love to hop in on something like this. sounds like fun :D i <3 NA! hopefully this will be around when i get my car done

s13chuck
07-22-2013, 11:41 PM
this would be really cool to see.. if someone really got a heavily tuned NA KA, ITB's, equal length headers, E85 tune with intense timing, heavy cams, high compression..

id love to see someone break the 250whp NA - KA barrier

Scope240sx
07-23-2013, 09:49 AM
any rsvp required by a certain date?

s13chuck that would be a ridiculous KA!!
haha

azndummie
07-23-2013, 01:28 PM
this would be really cool to see.. if someone really got a heavily tuned NA KA, ITB's, equal length headers, E85 tune with intense timing, heavy cams, high compression..

id love to see someone break the 250whp NA - KA barrier

lol Nissan has been making 300hp NA KA's for years.

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Matej
07-23-2013, 02:18 PM
What about RWD SR20VE's?
Potential exploit. :)

OBEEWON
07-24-2013, 09:14 AM
I will be starting these competition with a test season this year!

First event will be August 24th!

Das muh Bee Day. Good day to start.

azndummie
07-24-2013, 02:54 PM
What about RWD SR20VE's?
Potential exploit. :)

DO IT!

SOMEONE BUILD A C.O.R.R. MOTOR KA24DE AS WELL!

Technically it's NA.

DJ-of-E
07-24-2013, 03:14 PM
Unfortunately, 24th is no good for me, out of town business trip for me =/

beauwalnut
08-05-2013, 02:45 AM
My car wont be ready by the 24th but this sounds amazing!

blackrms13
08-05-2013, 12:36 PM
Isn't the 24th another night event?

DJ-of-E
08-05-2013, 05:12 PM
Isn't the 24th another night event?

they have both day and night event.

I just came back 2 days ago for SoW Night event CCW.

Let me tell ya, I didn't think I sucked so badly just because it was at night and first time in CCW configuration. however....


...WORTH IT!

azndummie
11-22-2013, 01:28 AM
Holy crap for some reason our last update did not post!

Our last event was held at Chuckwalla Raceway on September 29th!

This calm Sunday led us to a great day with an open track for the majority of time that we were there!

Most people left halfway though the day, but for the street class guys there was a lot of reward!

We had about 8 cars participate and considering that the day only had about 40-50 cars that was a pretty good slice of the pie!

Street Class results:
1st Parin T.(g35) 2:09.796
2nd Nazar M. (350z) 2:14.576
3rd Blake S. (350z) 2:17.948
4th Gun W. (370z) 2:17.980

Modified class results:
1st James C. (350z) 2:03.645
2nd Mike T. (S14) 2:14.878

Overall Rankings for the 2013 Nissan Competition after Round 7!

Street Class rankings:
1st Martin Choi(370z) 30pts
2nd Greg Seeman(370z) 28pts
3rd Parin Thalangdee(G35) 24pts
4th Brandon Mendoza(350z) 18pts
5th Steve Rice(370z) 14pts
6thMike Gamboa Jr.(240sx) 13pts
7th Moses Vasquez(r34) 10pts
7th David Lopez(Z34) 10pts
8th Adam Sakowicz (G35 coupe) 9pts
9th Leo Barana(370z nismo) 8pts
9th Craig Simonian(300zx) 8pts
9th Nazar Monadaca (350z) 8pts
10th Jonathan Kim (370z) 6pts
10th Michael Trieu(240sx) 6pts
10th Hotep Brown(300zx) 6pts
10th Blake Sherman (350z) 6pts
11th David Cooper(350z) 5pts
11th Gunawan Wiyono (370z) 5pts
12th Chuck Beals(300zx) 4pts


Modified class rankings:
1st Will Watanna(240sx-sr20) 54pts
2nd Adam Knapik(s14) 20pts
3rd Len Novak(350z) 16pts
4th Ian Domingo(350z) 15pts
5th Chris Willard(350z) 14pts
5th Patrick Chio(350z) 14pts
6th James Chang(350z) 10pts
7th Erik Tarui(350z) 6pts
8th Brian Hendricks(350z) 5pts
8th Kenny Sunada(350z) 5pts

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Thanks guys and don't forget to give our sponsors a shout!

Make sure you submit your pictures to Berk Technology, OS Giken, and Swift springs if you want to redeem their prizes.

Thanks,
Mike

KA24DESOneThree
12-04-2013, 07:53 PM
Why didn't I ever see this post? It may have lit a fire under my ass to get my car finished before the end of summer.

Next year, I'll be the only 240SX out there acting like a Miata. Low power, skinny rubber by 240SX standards, gearing limited, forced to make my momentum count.

azndummie
12-04-2013, 10:13 PM
Why didn't I ever see this post? It may have lit a fire under my ass to get my car finished before the end of summer.

Next year, I'll be the only 240SX out there acting like a Miata. Low power, skinny rubber by 240SX standards, gearing limited, forced to make my momentum count.

Then we can be head to head!

KA24DESOneThree
12-05-2013, 09:42 AM
Sounds good to me. I'm looking forward to at least one track day a month, and hopefully more.

You guys have A LOT of events planned next year. Between ES and SV, I'll be able to get in plenty of practice before the 2015 RTA season.

GroundPerformance
12-08-2013, 11:30 AM
motor builds should be open for as long as it remains NA. I'm down to do some track time next year and build an KA24DE, HC, ITBs, Honda ECU conversion.

azndummie
12-09-2013, 12:44 PM
motor builds should be open for as long as it remains NA. I'm down to do some track time next year and build an KA24DE, HC, ITBs, Honda ECU conversion.

We are allowing built NA motors!

racepar1
12-09-2013, 05:32 PM
motor builds should be open for as long as it remains NA. I'm down to do some track time next year and build an KA24DE, HC, ITBs, Honda ECU conversion.

Yeah, REALISTICALLY there are hardly any ACTUALLY BUILT N/A KA's (or SR's) out there anyways. No point in making super strict rules.

UNITEDMASTER
02-09-2014, 02:34 PM
any updates on this??

tacotacotaco
02-09-2014, 11:36 PM
Good time to bring it back from the dead. Ill be running this season. s13 coupe just your bolt on intake header exhaust. Install cams and a tune mid season.

200mph240sx
02-10-2014, 08:20 PM
This is great!!! You should have a class for a stock NA 240sx's maybe allow like a intake and cat back, brake pads and tires to be upgraded, but keep the original tire size. Than do another class with like a certain power limit and another class that is unlimited all out NA with no restrictions on anything. Maybe throw in some SR20's in there. Cause I'd love to track my 390Whp S13 with an S14 SR in it. And bring my NA 240 for the other events. It would be cool as heck to participate in couple events in same day. I did some TimeAttack before and this kind of sounds like it. Go for it man!!!!!!!!!!!! Give us somewhere to race. I'm tired of not being able to have a lot of options for racing. You can even do like a GT class. Where all you have to do is use a certain engine and everything is unlimited.

UNITEDMASTER
02-11-2014, 07:23 PM
YEa... Im whipping up a stree/play car to save gas..lollollol KADE I did a basic lil topend refresh... Bone stock

tacotacotaco
03-10-2014, 06:41 PM
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Awesome time at HTM this sat. Any other 240s planning for chuckwalla on april 6th?

blackrms13
03-10-2014, 08:20 PM
I might go to Chuckwalla that day...

too bad 240 isn't ready yet...

codyace
03-11-2014, 04:34 PM
I'm confused, this is the North American series, yet it only takes place in CA? ...you guys worried about us East Coast guys or what? ;P Hahah just razin. Looks fun.

tacotacotaco
03-11-2014, 08:54 PM
I wish we had the coin to travel around. Still trying to get the 240s to come out.

codyace
03-12-2014, 07:13 AM
haha i know I was just ball bustin. I know I couldn't justify the cross country drive lol!

AFSil80
03-12-2014, 10:57 PM
What, no CA20E S12 love?!

J/k. Sounds like a good way to get people on track to do something competitive without breaking the bank. I'd be happy to build something, but like codyace I'm on the wrong coast haha.

tacotacotaco
11-25-2014, 04:37 PM
So the last Event of the year is This sunday November 30th at Big Willow. Any 240s ready or getting ready for next year?
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tacotacotaco
12-01-2014, 05:10 PM
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racepar1
12-05-2014, 11:27 PM
No results from Willow? I'm curious to see the times...

tacotacotaco
12-06-2014, 01:42 PM
Big willow rain and then track dried up these are best times.
So some times i have readily available.

370z rs-3 bc br coils 1:41.671
G35 stock federal 595 automatic 1:42.784
Nismo 350z rs-3 Spec Z mods 1:36.818

the 240s I ran my 240 but without timing since i was helping at the event.

racepar1
12-07-2014, 11:56 PM
Big willow rain and then track dried up these are best times.
So some times i have readily available.

370z rs-3 bc br coils 1:41.671
G35 stock federal 595 automatic 1:42.784
Nismo 350z rs-3 Spec Z mods 1:36.818

the 240s I ran my 240 but without timing since i was helping at the event.

Thanks, that stroked me ego a bit! LOL! Exact same conditions I ran a 1:41 on the 1st gen RT615's, next year (same conditions) I ran a 1:38 on some old RA1's. Both times with a stock KA.

I miss the track, all I have left is "paper racing"...

Vatche
12-11-2014, 02:11 PM
Thanks, that stroked me ego a bit! LOL! Exact same conditions I ran a 1:41 on the 1st gen RT615's, next year (same conditions) I ran a 1:38 on some old RA1's. Both times with a stock KA.

I miss the track, all I have left is "paper racing"...

I used to see you at the track. gotta make it out. were pushing to see 240's out there

racepar1
12-11-2014, 11:01 PM
I used to see you at the track. gotta make it out. were pushing to see 240's out there

Yeah, I miss it. Unfortunately my family has to take priority over going to the track to play...

:-/

I'm hoping to make it out to an event before I move to AZ at the end of the school year. We'll see... If I do I'll make sure it's one of these events though!

Legend1515
02-11-2015, 03:14 PM
just found this thread but im down with a couple 240sx guys i know.

tacotacotaco
02-11-2015, 03:43 PM
just found this thread but im down with a couple 240sx guys i know.

Are you out in New York. Sadly this is currently just a west coast event.

Legend1515
02-11-2015, 03:44 PM
Well luckily I'll be moving to San Diego on a few months.

tacotacotaco
02-11-2015, 04:27 PM
Ahhh YEAH!!!! Come out. The z's are out in force but the s chassis are holding their own. Would love to have more 240sx out.

KA24DESOneThree
02-17-2015, 09:44 PM
The good news is that I'm down for 2016.

The bad news is that my cage and safety gear are going to tap me out for 2015.

If I have a banner year and manage to get out the 20 or so cars I want to, you might see me on track toward the end of 2015.

tacotacotaco
03-31-2015, 05:30 PM
Come out already

Nissan Challenge's next event is April 4th. Join our little facebook group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/545884522098180/

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tacotacotaco
09-30-2015, 12:08 PM
https://www.facebook.com/groups/545884522098180/

2016 schedule will be out soon

SR20PWRALTY
02-28-2017, 12:44 AM
BUMP! Thought we could get more people out for 2017.

battery1882
12-07-2017, 09:09 AM
Join the fun!!!

shaggyjake
02-13-2018, 12:41 PM
Join the fun!!!


Do you have to have a Nissan engine to compete?

SR20PWRALTY
02-14-2018, 10:21 PM
No. You will be placed in appropriate class.

battery1882
02-16-2018, 03:30 PM
Do you have to have a Nissan engine to compete?

come out Jake!

you will be class 1 or 2.