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MadScientist
04-15-2004, 10:55 AM
Buddy Club Spec II Exhaust *Group Buy*

Rare Trick would like to welcome Buddy Club to the U.S.
In addition to help support Buddy Club sales in the U.S., Rare Trick is offering the Spec II Exhaust for $338.00.

Retail is $398.00... You save $50... This exhaust is so simple and light weigh shipping cost is extramly low... In Fact, Rare Trick will cover the cost of shipping over $20 (US-48 ONLY!).

Buddy Club suggest 10+ orders... Rare Trick will stop the Group Buy depending on Demand.

Spec II Exhaust for 240SX/ Silvia (180sx, S13, and S14) is a 76.3mm (3 inch) Pipe w/ 101.6mm (4 inch) Tip. Straight as possable w/ Angled Exit. All Stainless Steel Piping. Spring held Flanges. Resonated Mid-Pipe. Silencer Included!

Place Order for Buddy Club Spec II for $338.00... Here! (http://www.raretrick.com/index1.asp?cat=1621&Page=1&Display=Yes&Back=Listings&ProductsID=7164)

nismostate
04-15-2004, 04:04 PM
wow that is cool! too bad I got the URAS gb already....

Bbandit
04-15-2004, 04:18 PM
wow this is a nice deal!
how long will it take for us to wait?

four
04-15-2004, 04:20 PM
yea depending on the wait, ill 75% be in on this GB

also when is the deadline

four
04-15-2004, 04:28 PM
i just saw on the buddy club website...can you get spec IV and III as well? they look a little more streetable (traditional look)

also, is this a cat-less system? it looks like it on the pix



EDIT:

i just re-read it and it says resonated mid-pipe


i guess i answered my own question

OptionZero
04-15-2004, 10:16 PM
on-car pix anyone? sound clips?

element240
04-15-2004, 11:24 PM
nice, i'd definitely like to hear a sound clip! but i'm assuming this exhaust is a tad loud for my taste.... great price however, i will think about it (rs-r ex-mag is what i want).

MadScientist
04-15-2004, 11:57 PM
Buddy Club suggest 10+ orders... Rare Trick will stop the Group Buy depending on Demand.

The faster I get 10 Orders the sooner it ends. Buddy Club will be importing this with their normal shipments (Just like with ordering from Rare Trick... its all about timing).

The resonator will help quiet the sound to a deeper tone and the silencer will help out with the rest. I honestly dont know of a single 240SX with a Buddy Club Spec II. Sound File :hahano: yeah... umm... no...! :hahano:

I have an UnderCar View, but its not loading...

four
04-16-2004, 05:14 AM
guys, i found a sound clip on google of this exhaust, but its on a civic..;it will sound much different on our cars esp if you're running any turbo.

four
04-16-2004, 05:15 AM
http://www.aj-racing.com/BuddyClub/exhaust/Buddy%20Club%20Spec%20II%20on%20EM1%20(L).WMV

thats the sound clip :hs:

MadScientist
04-16-2004, 09:14 AM
http://www.aj-racing.com/BuddyClub/exhaust/Buddy%20Club%20Spec%20II%20on%20EM1%20(L).WMV

thats the sound clip :hs:

Nice... good looking out (four)!

Yeah, take away the Bee Hive and replace it with a Pissed Off Bear... This exhaust should sound very mean... if you think it will be to loud... Silencer seconds as Bear Muzzel! :rolleyes:

240trainee
04-16-2004, 09:52 AM
Well, I was hoping to get in on the Uras gb, but missed. I should have the money in a couple weeks, this is a excelent deal, I hope I get the money to jump on it!!

four
04-16-2004, 12:38 PM
Nice... good looking out (four)!

Yeah, take away the Bee Hive and replace it with a Pissed Off Bear... This exhaust should sound very mean... if you think it will be to loud... Silencer seconds as Bear Muzzel! :rolleyes:


see! i should get a discount for helping you find a sound club

haahahah

but yea, im almost definatly in..you can pretty much count me in (almost..unless i go totally broke within the next month)

element240
04-16-2004, 02:53 PM
me too, i've been thinking about it, if i can get the money by next week i may be in!

have you posted the GB in other forums "madscientist" ?
i posted it on club240 to try to get some other potential buyers

s14turbosilvia
04-16-2004, 04:55 PM
Do you have a weight for the exhaust? you say it's light, how light?

count me in. I will need at the most, three weeks to send payment, but put me down for sure.
[email protected]

thanks, BEN

Flybert
04-17-2004, 12:50 AM
This thing has got to be light. It's basically a straight through pipe. This thing has got to be the loudest exhaust system on the market. I just hope you guys know what you are getting yourselves into. Are you sure a silencer can even tame this thing?

BlackSilvia96
04-17-2004, 05:28 AM
What if I live in Hawaii, how much will it be for shipping?



BlackSilvia96

MadScientist
04-17-2004, 10:00 AM
Hawaii I would say shipping is going to be no more than $40... I will cover the rest, if so.

elelment240 - thanks for posting on other forums!
So far, I have only posted on here... seems to have a good response so far... I will check out Club240.

Yes, the exhaust will be loud, but I don't expect it to be annoying... honestly it should be about the same as the URAS RS... or any exhaust with only one silencing component...

I dont have an exact weight yet, but I will ask Buddy Club if they do. I have had several Buddy Club exhaust come through (mainly for Honda's) and eveyone was extreamly light weight... the Spec III for example, is so light... when I picked up the canister section... I thought "hey, not bad"... then I realized I had the entire exhaust system in my hand and it was all straped together... then it was more like :eek2: :tweak:

Touring240
04-17-2004, 11:42 AM
shouldn't be that loud. says it has resonated mid pipe, my gp sports 3.5" mandrel certainly doesn't have that hehe

element240
04-17-2004, 11:48 AM
alright i think i'm in on the GB, i posted on Freshalloy too so hopefully there's enough buyers to get this going. :x:

four
04-17-2004, 06:10 PM
ill be in the Group buy almost definatley. i just have to be nice to my girlfriend so that she will buy it for me :)

jupiterl
04-17-2004, 06:36 PM
I am definitly be in when if they can ship it to canada for extra cost. Please let me know, [email protected]

four
04-17-2004, 10:26 PM
hey madscientist:

what's the average wait for it to be in our hands assuming that everyone gets you the $ by the end of this month?

jetbill
04-18-2004, 04:22 PM
where do i send the cash and how long is wait? is this mount with an angle toward the driver side of the car? thanks

element240
04-18-2004, 05:21 PM
where do i send the cash and how long is wait? is this mount with an angle toward the driver side of the car? thanks


click here (http://www.raretrick.com/index1.asp?cat=1621&Page=1&Display=Yes&Back=Listings&ProductsID=7164)

MadScientist
04-19-2004, 09:49 AM
Rare Trick, LLC
P.O. Box 231218
Harahan, LA 70123

Angled Exit is always to the outside of the car...

Buddy Club says 3-4 weeks... but like I said before it depends on when it ends... and when Buddy Club has their next shipment sheduled... I would say 6-8 weeks as the absolute Longest!!

Shipping to Canada would be the same as HI... I will gladly cover the additional cost.

FA... nice!!

PhoenixxRising
04-19-2004, 12:49 PM
You should do a group buy on the other Bc systems too. I didnt see a listing for s13's under their other exausts. Do they offer them or just for the s14 and 15?

MadScientist
04-19-2004, 01:17 PM
You should do a group buy on the other Bc systems too. I didnt see a listing for s13's under their other exausts. Do they offer them or just for the s14 and 15?

Only this system has the S13 available... Thats also why I did the GB!

Here is the Under Car View (not a Silvia, just a pic... didn't Barny teach you to use your imagination!?!)

MadScientist
04-20-2004, 09:53 AM
Update: 2 Orders Placed... Need 8 more :x:

four
04-20-2004, 10:30 AM
will you be charging the cc right away, or will you wait till there are 10 confirmed orderes>?

MadScientist
04-20-2004, 12:17 PM
will you be charging the cc right away, or will you wait till there are 10 confirmed orderes>?

No-one will be charged untill 10 orders are placed... depending on Buddy Club I may not charge untill the items arrive in the US.

240trainee
04-20-2004, 07:06 PM
Ok, I am pretty sire that i will be buying this, I need to get my tax refund!! lol. I need a exhaust system, and this is the best deal in town.

jdm_eg6
04-22-2004, 07:22 PM
Do you think this exhaust will be in by the beginning of June if I order now?

four
04-22-2004, 09:19 PM
Do you think this exhaust will be in by the beginning of June if I order now?
well umm..if u can get 10 ppl to buy, then i would say theres a posibility considering it'll probably take a month or a month and 1/2 to get herr

MadScientist
04-23-2004, 09:59 AM
I have 2 orders still... I am not counting hands, I am counting Orders!

I dont want to put an END date... but I am not going to make 2 guys wait 3-4 months to get their stuff!!

element240 -- Post links on here where you advertised this GB.
four -- I noticed you were helping push also.

Hate to say it in here but,.... maybe post on some Honda forums?
Its considered advertising if I do it... so, I would, but cant!
Thank you guys for helping and showing support... It will pay off in the end :naughty:

four
04-23-2004, 10:03 AM
yea ive posted this info on some local forums..if i can get atleast 1 more, i'd be happy :)

element240
04-23-2004, 01:07 PM
i posted on FA but they closed the thread, no commercial posts allowed...

and i posted on club240 : http://www.club240.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=96991#post96991
and ohionissans.com: http://www.ohionissans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8747#8747
and nico: never mind, it got deleted too..

i'll try to post on other forums too..

NiSmo240luvR
04-24-2004, 03:48 PM
i just placed my order so im in!

Bbandit
04-24-2004, 10:56 PM
man i really want this exhaust but i need it by mid may..
so far theres only like 3 people in the groupbuy right?
Im going to wait another week and see if it will go up above 5, when that happenned, I'll be in for sure

four
04-25-2004, 09:04 AM
it will be up to 5 by the end of this week. me and a friend is getting one each..so if tehre is aleradyu 3, there's 5 right there for ya

Two4zerO
04-25-2004, 02:12 PM
everyone cant miss out on this deal...i already put my order in..all we need is wat 5 more...i hate waiting..

_JDMU
04-25-2004, 09:26 PM
Damnit! Ive been wanting this exaust for a while. Would you still be able to get them after the group buy is over??? I dont think I will have the money in time for the gb.

four
04-26-2004, 08:04 AM
hey madscientist:

me and a freind are planing to order 2 (1 for s13, the otehr for S14)

if we get it shipped to the same place, is it the same price?

does it have to be business address?

thanks

four
04-26-2004, 08:31 AM
i just placed my order so im in!

yay...got you in...see..posting on local forums help trumendously!!!

MadScientist
04-26-2004, 09:59 AM
hey madscientist:

me and a freind are planing to order 2 (1 for s13, the otehr for S14)

if we get it shipped to the same place, is it the same price?

does it have to be business address?

thanks

$20 Shipping applies to All (except local delivery), Normal shipping on most any exhaust is about $45-50... I am already eating over half of that cost.

If you send a Money Order... I will ship to where-ever you wish... Credit Card orders will only be shipped to Billing Address... I don't take PayPal!!

Yes, this exhaust will be available after the GB, but not at this price!

_JDMU
04-26-2004, 12:21 PM
Ok I am in for sure now but I will be doing a money order. How do I get put down for an order?

four
04-26-2004, 12:29 PM
hey madscientist,

i emailed you about a shipping concern. please check it out when you have a chance.

element240
04-27-2004, 11:15 AM
Ok I am in for sure now but I will be doing a money order. How do I get put down for an order?

click on the link in his post ....




madscientist, how many people are in now?

four
04-27-2004, 11:35 AM
dont count me in yet...im having conflicts with shipping/payment issues. i might not be able to do this right now..but ill try to figure something out.

MadScientist
04-27-2004, 12:00 PM
click on the link in his post ....




madscientist, how many people are in now?

3 orders placed...

MadScientist
04-27-2004, 01:08 PM
4 orders placed...

_JDMU
04-27-2004, 01:31 PM
yep, that 4th one was mine. I just need the email telling me the total price and ill send the MO out today or tomorrow at the absolute latest.

MadScientist
04-27-2004, 01:59 PM
yep, that 4th one was mine. I just need the email telling me the total price and ill send the MO out today or tomorrow at the absolute latest.

Total Price for everyone in the US48 is $358 shipped!!
Total Price for anyone in Canada or Hawaii is $378 shipped!!

Rare Trick, LLC
P.O. Box 231218
Harahan, LA 70123

_JDMU
04-28-2004, 11:27 PM
Still 4 orders so far?

MadScientist
04-29-2004, 11:53 AM
Still 4 orders so far?

:werd:

OK... so I have 4 Orders as of right now... I am going to place the 4 orders with Buddy Club tommorrow... that way everyone that has ordered will be getting theirs first, and no waiting on the other 6 orders!

Anyone interested that has not ordered or sent payment will have to wait on the other 6. I will cancel the Group Buy 2 weeks from tommorrow (4-30)!!
If you order with-in the two weeks your order will be processed on the Cancel date... please send payment before then.

_JDMU
04-29-2004, 12:11 PM
Ok I sent out the MO just now. Thanks for the GB!

four
04-29-2004, 05:38 PM
yo drew, im going to send you that credit card check i was talking about...count me in...i make the 5th guy..order mine

four
04-29-2004, 05:39 PM
BTW, mine is for S14

_JDMU
04-29-2004, 07:04 PM
BTW, mine is for S14
Yea, mine to...just incase

_JDMU
04-29-2004, 07:17 PM
Heres another pic I found of it on a Skyline, if it helps at all.

http://www.first-inc.co.jp/buddyclub/muffler/images/2_img1.jpg

Bbandit
04-29-2004, 07:39 PM
Drew dont forget me! im paying with my credit card!!! what should i do??
should i just call you tommorrow?
or should i purchase it from the website tonight??
please let me know

Bbandit
04-29-2004, 07:50 PM
Drew, I purchased it through the website just now... I dont want to be left behind
let me know if Im not going to make it in this first groupbuy.. :/

MadScientist
04-29-2004, 08:13 PM
Guys I have said it a few times on here already... I am counting Orders placed on the website... not a show of hands on forums... I have 5 orders now... anyone else want in needs to order before the end of 4-30!!

Bbandit
04-29-2004, 08:16 PM
yea I did purchased it through the website 30 minutes ago.. so am I cool?

Two4zerO
04-29-2004, 08:40 PM
okay i plsced a order online..but i havent sent my money order in am i still on the group buy if i havent sent payment...?

four
04-30-2004, 05:27 AM
okay, im going to place order online, but im sending that credit card check we spoke about.

four
04-30-2004, 05:29 AM
okay, i placed my order online :)

MadScientist
04-30-2004, 03:36 PM
OK, I have 6 orders going out to Buddy Club Today!!!

I will be calling to arrange collection of Payment but I will not be cashing anything untill close to arrival date. Buddy Club said about 6 weeks.

Thank you guys!!!

element240
04-30-2004, 03:36 PM
just got a call from you guys over at raretrick.
i will send my money order out first thing tomorrow!
i would've sent it sooner but ,sorry i been busy all week getting some stuff straightened out with court and insurance and all......

_JDMU
04-30-2004, 05:26 PM
Awsome, I cant wait! I havent gotten a call yet though.

MadScientist
05-04-2004, 03:53 PM
OK, Buddy Club has the order! But... I dunno if Golden Week in Japan is going to effect the shipment time.

Lets see if I have this right also:
Order #598 -S14 - MO
Order #599 -(R)PS13 - MO
Order #605 -(R)PS13 - CC
Order #612 -S14 - MO
Order #620 -(R)PS13 - CC
Order #622 -S14 - MO

I know some has selected MO and will pay with CC later... :bigok:

popey
05-04-2004, 05:14 PM
still taking orders at this price or not, let me know! [email protected]

_JDMU
05-04-2004, 06:05 PM
Sweet, what is the expected arrival date(approx.)?

four
05-05-2004, 07:27 AM
Drew, you shoudl recieve my payment in the mail soon. I mailed it tuesday morning

element240
05-05-2004, 09:49 AM
same, i sent a check monday

CoasTek240
05-05-2004, 07:12 PM
man, ive been wanting this exhaust for a long time. sweet

still going?...pm me

four
05-05-2004, 07:24 PM
thats exactly what im wondering.. b/c if you wait till you have the 10 orders... i will give you my CC # now and work out everything, just notify me b4 the order...

man, ive been wanting this exhaust for a long time. sweet


he ordered the first 6 (i think) already...i suggest you contact him directly if you want yours soon.

CoasTek240
05-05-2004, 07:42 PM
i just noticed, you dont have the buddy club on ur website. so how much is it reg price.?
-dave

trsilvias13
05-06-2004, 03:02 AM
let me know when u got more.. because if it ends soon the better and i will place an order.. how does payment work? i want this in less than a month if it still there unless i find another exhaust

MadScientist
05-06-2004, 09:16 AM
let me know when u got more.. because if it ends soon the better and i will place an order.. how does payment work? i want this in less than a month if it still there unless i find another exhaust


This is being ordered by Buddy Club USA (estimate is 6 weeks right now)
Buddy Club USA doesn't stock the Spec II and has no intensions of stocking it, from what I gathered. I have Buddy Club listed on my site... look under Browse by Manufacturer... I dont have everything listed yet... also I ususlly take down the retail listing when I do a GB, so I dont get people ordering at retail and expecting GB price (it gets confusing, and it makes the GB go better)

Yes this GB is still going... next Order is on the 14th (Group Buy Ends on the 14th as well!!!... order soon!!) :naughty:

TrustSupra
05-06-2004, 04:08 PM
This is being ordered by Buddy Club USA (estimate is 6 weeks right now)
Buddy Club USA doesn't stock the Spec II and has no intensions of stocking it, from what I gathered. I have Buddy Club listed on my site... look under Browse by Manufacturer... I dont have everything listed yet... also I ususlly take down the retail listing when I do a GB, so I dont get people ordering at retail and expecting GB price (it gets confusing, and it makes the GB go better)

Yes this GB is still going... next Order is on the 14th (Group Buy Ends on the 14th as well!!!... order soon!!) :naughty:

Count me in

TrustSupra
05-06-2004, 05:14 PM
http://www.aj-racing.com/BuddyClub/exhaust/DSCN8384.jpg

ghostuss
05-09-2004, 01:28 AM
Man how loud does these get with the turbo? I want one of these but I don't want the cops pulling me over all day long making me go to the ref and shit when I have a SR.

four
05-09-2004, 08:41 AM
Man how loud does these get with the turbo? I want one of these but I don't want the cops pulling me over all day long making me go to the ref and shit when I have a SR.
you wont know til people actually get it

ghostuss
05-09-2004, 10:43 AM
if the noise is not louder than the apexi n1 on a KA. Then I am in this for sure.

four
05-09-2004, 12:05 PM
dude, it will definatly be louder than an n1. just look at it

_JDMU
05-09-2004, 01:20 PM
I heard its louder then the Greddy DD.

TrustSupra
05-09-2004, 01:27 PM
I heard its louder then the Greddy DD.

Sound clip of the Greddy DD?

:duh: I have a motor which is naturally louder then the SR or KA so I wonder if its going to be oturageous on my CA :confused:

trsilvias13
05-09-2004, 06:42 PM
i just place my order so count me in.. also if i order more stuff from your website, can u include that into my order?

MadScientist
05-10-2004, 01:25 PM
Ok Buddy Club is negotiating with Japan on how to get it over faster. :bow: I added the last order... so now its 7 on Order!!

:naughty: trsilvias13 -- depending on what you order depends on how it ships! E-mail me [email protected] and let me know what your interested in!!

Trust DD is probably louder, but you really can't compare a Dual to a Single.
The DD has a larger resonator, but its needed to split the exhaust... you also have 2 - 76.3mm pipes vs. one 76.3mm ... Dual will naturally be Louder... Apex N1 Dual is only split at the end near the Canister so its not truely a Dual, but is louder than the Apex N1 single for that reason.

Your beating a dead horse... Like Four said "you wont know til people actually get it"

ghostuss
05-10-2004, 03:12 PM
Ahh what the heck. If I order them from you guys you think it can be shipped out on time? Also I ordered some Dt05s from you guys you think I can get some freebies or discount :boink: let me know :bow:

_JDMU
05-10-2004, 07:11 PM
Ok Buddy Club is negotiating with Japan on how to get it over faster. So whats the approx. wait time now?

Adikt
05-11-2004, 05:53 AM
Can i still get in on this or is it too late?

MadScientist
05-11-2004, 10:22 AM
Can i still get in on this or is it too late?

Yes, this GB will end on Friday the 14th.

I will know the Time frame later in the week.

ghostuss --- are you sure because I dont remember EVER selling something called DT05s! Shipped out on time?? On Time for what? Are you even reading the post...???

ghostuss
05-11-2004, 12:34 PM
it's the M2 rims. So I guess I can still jump on this. Hmm...

Salty_X
05-11-2004, 05:26 PM
Wrong shop. DT-05R GB was through Touge Factory.
Good luck with the buy MadScientist. Let me know if you're going to be doing the Target exhaust one sometime so I can start saving! :drool:

ch1873857
05-11-2004, 05:32 PM
oh man! friday the 14th is too soon. i wont have the in time

MadScientist
05-11-2004, 06:55 PM
ch1873857 --- No-one is being charged untill the Exhaust arrives in the US... so You can still Order if you think you will have the funds in time... BUT I will need to hold a form of payment (ex: Credit Card).

Salty_X --- let me know when you have enough funds saved for a Ti. If your not to picky about specifics then I would say you need to save about $700-1000.

ghostuss --- :wtf: Your cut off!! Someone tell the Bartender!!

four
05-11-2004, 07:16 PM
okay, so what was the time frame again? you said buddy club japan was talking to someone?

i duno, im lost..

drift into a curb
05-11-2004, 08:23 PM
Do they happen to make a version for the AE86 with 76mm IN and 101mm OUT? I figure the 50mm IN is for the naturally aspirated 4A-GE only. Let me know. Thanks.

Adikt
05-12-2004, 12:00 AM
do you have to recieve my money order by friday or can i order the exhaust and send the money order monday. A lot of ppl owe me money and i get paid on saturday so i can definatly send out the money monday. is that kool?

MadScientist
05-12-2004, 09:29 AM
do you have to recieve my money order by friday or can i order the exhaust and send the money order monday. A lot of ppl owe me money and i get paid on saturday so i can definatly send out the money monday. is that kool?

Adikt - As long as money is on the way or I have a CC# to hold its OK.

drift into a curb -- you have mail, and No... its only 50mm In.

four -- I would expect nothing less :bow: I will call BC and see whats up... they said to call on Wed. anyway. (Buddy Club USA is talking with Buddy Club Japan... They want to get this to us faster, so they are figuring out a reasonable shipping method :mepoke: )

Bbandit
05-12-2004, 09:58 AM
^^^ sounds good man! cant wait to get the exhaust...
although i might have to run open dump for a while until I get this exhaust.. my stock exhaust is all rusty and once the ka-t is done.. the stock exhaust is pretty much useless.

ghostuss
05-12-2004, 10:02 AM
yea just placed the order. Hmm hope it comes in sometime end of the money or mid june latest. :coold:

element240
05-12-2004, 10:13 AM
can't wait :x:

Adikt
05-13-2004, 07:42 PM
ok i just placed my order ill be sendin my money order out first thing monday morning, btw what is the shipping charge on these?

thanks alot guys

_JDMU
05-13-2004, 10:05 PM
^^^ what part of chicago are you from?

Adikt
05-14-2004, 12:26 AM
northwest side i live around irving and central by portage park

MadScientist
05-14-2004, 09:39 AM
ok i just placed my order ill be sendin my money order out first thing monday morning, btw what is the shipping charge on these?

thanks alot guys

Adikt -- $20.... It's been posted several times and on the First Post!

SUPRISE, SUPRISE, SUPRISE.... Buddy Club has a Container Porting about next week with a few of the Spec II on it... not sure of how many, but ALL on that shipment are claimed by US!! Those will be shipped to the first people in the GB! The Remaining amount is on order and will be arrive in about 4-6 weeks!!
:bigok:

element240
05-14-2004, 10:12 AM
good news!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :boink: can't wait :x:

_JDMU
05-14-2004, 12:19 PM
Awsome news!!!

Adikt
05-14-2004, 02:27 PM
lol my bad dude

bleble
05-14-2004, 08:27 PM
probably too late but i would like to place an order for the exhaust. how much is shipping to calgary alberta canada?

thanks

Bbandit
05-15-2004, 07:09 AM
nice! hopefully they got enough for us first buyers..

four
05-15-2004, 09:36 AM
Adikt -- $20.... It's been posted several times and on the First Post!

SUPRISE, SUPRISE, SUPRISE.... Buddy Club has a Container Porting about next week with a few of the Spec II on it... not sure of how many, but ALL on that shipment are claimed by US!! Those will be shipped to the first people in the GB! The Remaining amount is on order and will be arrive in about 4-6 weeks!!
:bigok:


so what happenes if the people that ordered first (i beleve it was 6 people)..how will you know who to give it out to if there's only 3 that came, or 5 that came, or 2 s13, and 2 s14, where in u need 3 s14 and 1 s13?

ghostuss
05-15-2004, 09:08 PM
Having my finger crossed right now. :x: Hehe I got s14, any of s14 buyers before me? I think I am the 6th or 7th to pay. =P

_JDMU
05-15-2004, 09:49 PM
Maybe what he meant by "few" was that only the first 6 were here and not the rest.

element240
05-15-2004, 10:44 PM
didn't you guys read his post? he says theres a few and he doesn't know how many yet.
and that they will be sent to the first people who made purchases...

btw, i think i'm first, #598 for s14

Adikt
05-16-2004, 02:10 PM
hey can you guys email me a quote, i stupidly forgot to print one at the end of the checkout and dont know where to send my money

[email protected]

trsilvias13
05-16-2004, 02:46 PM
So is the order is by who pay first? or who order first? Because... it seem some people just order and didnt pay... but, i place an order through your site and put a credit card down.. does that mean i pertty much paid for it already? And that you going to charge me when it comes and shipped to me? Let me know if that doesnt make sense.

Bbandit
05-16-2004, 11:27 PM
I think he said it earlier that he will charge once the exhausts are in.
and I believe people (especially the ones in front of me, I'm number 5) already paid with money order.
So yea.. basically I'm crossing my fingers since I got my ka-t running tonight and hopefully it will start cruising around tommorrow..

MadScientist
05-18-2004, 07:06 PM
Everyone.... CHILL OUT!!

Buddy Club didn't recieve ANY in the shipment they originally though they had SOME in... So no-one gets anything first, second, or last!

Buddy Club USA is new and still working out small glitches, that get lost in translation. They are looking at what sells and what they need to carry large stock on. EVERYONE will get what they ordered! If you have not paid yet... its OK... When time comes to Pay, please have the money ready!!

So Far.. it looks like sometime in June, probably about this time next month.
Until then.. run open pipes... the cops love it and give paper presents... good for Origami! :bow:

element240
06-02-2004, 02:54 PM
bump!

madscientist, any new word on when they'll arrive yet?

MadScientist
06-02-2004, 07:41 PM
So Far.. it looks like sometime in June, probably about this time next month.
Until then.. run open pipes... the cops love it and give paper presents... good for Origami! :bow:

Still around the End of JUNE!

_JDMU
06-02-2004, 08:45 PM
Its worth the wait.

Bbandit
06-03-2004, 08:42 AM
yea I'm not in a rush too.. besides.. this stock exhaust has grown on me... makes my car looks totally stock

whooha1217
06-04-2004, 01:23 AM
how much is it total? with shipping....

whooha1217
06-08-2004, 06:33 PM
this GB still on????

_JDMU
06-09-2004, 03:39 PM
Its been over for a while now.

trsilvias13
06-22-2004, 06:22 PM
did these exhaust come in yet?

MadScientist
06-22-2004, 08:42 PM
did these exhaust come in yet?

Nope.... I called Buddy Club the other day about this Order... They said alot of people have started ordering them now and they have not recieved any word from Buddy Club Japan on a Shipping date.... :hammer: I take it that Buddy Club Japan didn't have these and they are a Made to Order Item.

element240
06-22-2004, 09:34 PM
........................ :bite:

zaneithan
06-23-2004, 01:42 AM
damn, i wish i didnt miss out on this GB, i need an exhaust =\

Bbandit
06-23-2004, 07:47 AM
Hmm... I guess this will take longer than we thought

kcolyer27
06-23-2004, 09:06 AM
This exhaust ownes. CAn someone tell me how fuckin loud this is? with no muffler im sure its super loud. Also with no muffler, take your cat converter off and expect flames if your running a turbo :drool:

four
06-24-2004, 08:12 AM
This exhaust ownes. CAn someone tell me how fuckin loud this is? with no muffler im sure its super loud. Also with no muffler, take your cat converter off and expect flames if your running a turbo :drool:

if you actually did some reading you would find out that there is a sound clip on a n/a car. its on page 2 or 3 of this thread. as far as it being on a 240sx, that has yet to be heard.

anyway,...so this is going to take well into the summer correct?

MadScientist
06-24-2004, 09:51 AM
anyway,...so this is going to take well into the summer correct?

Its looking that way ... :axe:
I'll try to do something for you guys to make up for this!! :smash:

Bbandit
06-24-2004, 10:00 AM
thats okay.. i think im just going to wait...
I want this BC exhaust,
and it seems like my stock 2 inch exhaust is still holding pretty good with the KA-T (bad top end though)

trsilvias13
06-24-2004, 01:00 PM
This exhaust ownes. CAn someone tell me how fuckin loud this is? with no muffler im sure its super loud. Also with no muffler, take your cat converter off and expect flames if your running a turbo :drool:

i shot flame not big ones but good enough to see at nite with the ka n/a every single one i owned, both the sohc and dohc version

kcolyer27
06-26-2004, 01:18 PM
if you actually did some reading you would find out that there is a sound clip on a n/a car. its on page 2 or 3 of this thread. as far as it being on a 240sx, that has yet to be heard.

anyway,...so this is going to take well into the summer correct?

Im aware i heard the clip before

four
07-09-2004, 05:03 PM
so, hows this shipment going?

Soulja
07-20-2004, 04:33 PM
any update on time frame?

element240
07-20-2004, 10:42 PM
yea? any new word madscientist? i pm'd you a couple days ago too....

four
07-21-2004, 01:54 AM
yea man..this is way longer than the ETA

_JDMU
07-22-2004, 11:13 PM
Yea, anyone hear anything??? Its been over a month past the ETA.

Bbandit
07-23-2004, 12:51 AM
hmm... we should give madscientist a call... Im going to try to call him tommorrow

MadScientist
07-26-2004, 12:00 PM
hmm... we should give madscientist a call... Im going to try to call him tommorrow

Whats Up Guys.. sorry for the Delay in the Follow Up!

Buddy Club USA still doesn't have an exact date, in fact they dont even have a date.
The guy I was dealing with no longer works for Buddy Club USA, so I am basically dealing with new people I dont know and not getting any valid info.

Made to Order is taking longer than expected... hopefully this is one bad sounding exhaust... I ordered 2 for myself also :bigok:

ghostuss
07-26-2004, 12:05 PM
lucky me backed out from this and went for a HKS hi-power 85mm piping. Being enjoying this for quiet awhile now. He should give out refunds if this is taking this long and STILL does not know when this is coming in. THe other groupbuy on whiteline swaybar gave out refunds for taking so long and still not getting the bars yet.

_JDMU
07-26-2004, 11:12 PM
Whats Up Guys.. sorry for the Delay in the Follow Up!

Buddy Club USA still doesn't have an exact date, in fact they dont even have a date.
The guy I was dealing with no longer works for Buddy Club USA, so I am basically dealing with new people I dont know and not getting any valid info.

Made to Order is taking longer than expected... hopefully this is one bad sounding exhaust... I ordered 2 for myself also :bigok:

:(
Do you think they will be in before the end of Aug?

MadScientist
07-27-2004, 10:57 AM
lucky me backed out from this and went for a HKS hi-power 85mm piping. Being enjoying this for quiet awhile now. He should give out refunds if this is taking this long and STILL does not know when this is coming in. THe other groupbuy on whiteline swaybar gave out refunds for taking so long and still not getting the bars yet.

This is what you get for thinking when your not use to it!! :blah:

I have not taken a Dime from anyone yet, and only 2 people sent Money Orders that have not been cashed yet!! If anyone wants to Cancel... let me know... Buddy Club understands the situation, but once the item is placed on the Boat, It Can't be Canceled!!

I have No Estimat of when it will be in, Nor does Buddy Club USA!!

MadScientist
08-05-2004, 08:32 AM
:(
Do you think they will be in before the end of Aug?

BUDDY CLUB USA called me today and said all the SPEC II Exhaust were IN-STOCK and ready to ship. :angel:

I will be calling and charging everyone today!! :naughtyd:

Bbandit
08-05-2004, 09:56 AM
SCHWEEEETTT!!!!! Finally!! oh yeaaahhh... now im excited again...
Im getting tired of this tiny stock cat

edit: oh btw, did I already sent you my Address and all that?

MadScientist
08-05-2004, 06:39 PM
SCHWEEEETTT!!!!! Finally!! oh yeaaahhh... now im excited again...
Im getting tired of this tiny stock cat

edit: oh btw, did I already sent you my Address and all that?

Only 4 people were processed today, but everyone who was not able to be processed should have an e-mail that looks like this...

The Buddy Club Spec II Exhaust are now in stock and ready to ship. I do not have a Payment Method for your order.
Please send Payment for $358.00 to:

Rare Trick, LLC
P.O. Box 231218
Harahan, LA 70123

or Call to make payment arrangement with Credit Card.

Thank you
Drew
Owner, Rare Trick, LLC
www.raretrick.com

Need to Collect from Order #s: :rant2:
598
599 - can only ship to the Billing Address of Credit Card (HI or AZ)
622
641 - got your e-mail, yes its ok.

Shipped Orders: :bow:
605
612
620
634

Shin180sx
08-05-2004, 07:56 PM
Do you have any extras? I'll order one now if so

element240
08-05-2004, 09:09 PM
i mailed my check to you guys in may, and i still got your email.
let me know what's up....

i hope you guy's recieved it and have the check somewhere... :bite:

four
08-05-2004, 09:26 PM
i mailed my check to you guys in may, and i still got your email.
let me know what's up....

i hope you guy's recieved it and have the check somewhere... :bite:
i also mailed a credit card check to you guys in may and i got a phone call from a girl that day you guys recieved it, and verified it. I have to check with my CC company if it was cashed.

_JDMU
08-06-2004, 01:36 AM
SWEEEEET!!!!! I was looking for some good news today! I cant wait to get!!

Shipped Orders:
605
612
620
634

Do you mean those are being shipped to us or there being shipped to you from BC?

trsilvias13
08-06-2004, 02:02 AM
sweet good news

MadScientist
08-06-2004, 10:27 AM
i mailed my check to you guys in may, and i still got your email.
let me know what's up....

i hope you guy's recieved it and have the check somewhere...
I found your Check so I will get your Exhaust Shipped Out!! Sorry for the scare!! :bow:

i also mailed a credit card check to you guys in may and i got a phone call from a girl that day you guys recieved it, and verified it. I have to check with my CC company if it was cashed.
I was not aware that this payment came in, only thing noted on your Order is that it was being sent in, not that is was recieved. I will have Mitzi look into this as it seems she is the one who collected.

_JDMU -- I didn't want any longer of a Delay so I am having BC Drop Ship... should get tracking # today.

Shin180sx -- No Extras! in fact, Buddy Club is shy one S14 exhaust but is expecting it soon. They are also going to try and keep stock on these. Group Buy is Over so if your interested, order off the website.

_JDMU
08-06-2004, 10:57 AM
_JDMU -- I didn't want any longer of a Delay so I am having BC Drop Ship... should get tracking # today.


Cool...It was worth the wait!

element240
08-06-2004, 10:58 AM
whew, good news! i was almost :Owned:

can't wait for it!!

_JDMU
08-08-2004, 11:25 PM
Did you get those tracking #'s yet?

MadScientist
08-09-2004, 12:09 PM
Did you get those tracking #'s yet?

Good News and Bad News!!

Good News: I have the tracking #s for 4 orders!!

Bad News: Shipping is way more than expected!! Shipping is $70 due to Double Over-Sized Box... UPS!! :rl:
Most Exhaust Systems only cost about $45-50 to ship, and I was willing to split that cost with you guys and pay anything over $20.... But lossing $50 is a bit much... I will still split the cost $35/$35!!

Going to see what it will cost to get the other 4 sent to me on my FedEx account... may end up being the same doing this, but worth a shot. :confused:

Bbandit
08-09-2004, 01:34 PM
Can you email me the tracking#?
Im cool with that shipping thingy... are you going to just charge it to our CC or what?

my current email: [email protected]

_JDMU
08-09-2004, 11:04 PM
Yea can I also get the tracking #? Also how would the shipping work if we used MO?

trsilvias13
08-09-2004, 11:57 PM
35/35? what? i already got my exhuast, does that mean u will charge me an additional 15? if this was the case i wouldnt have order it

_JDMU
08-10-2004, 02:25 AM
35/35? what? i already got my exhuast, does that mean u will charge me an additional 15? if this was the case i wouldnt have order it
You already got it?? Any pics yet?

MadScientist
08-11-2004, 08:51 AM
35/35? what? i already got my exhuast, does that mean u will charge me an additional 15? if this was the case i wouldnt have order it

I would like to point out a single part of your statement "if this WAS the case"!! It was NEVER the Case and was not something I was aware of. I personally think $70 shipping is BS, as well as, some other BS that Buddy Club USA is throwing at me. But, I will be damned if you think its Fair for me to loss $50 rather than you pay an Additional $15!!
Thanks for being soooo Inconsiderate!!

_JDMU -- I dont think it will be possable to collect $15 from everyone who payed with MO, and it wouldn't be fair to only charge those who paid with CC, so it looks like I will be loosing out on this GB!

trsilvias13
08-11-2004, 10:55 AM
inconsiderate? i waited with no complaints. also i have passed up other exhuast group buy and then "if it was the case" have had charge the addition $15, then I would have gone through with the other group buys. Do you see where I stand.

And I understand where you are coming from, business wise. @50 a package, it probably may not cover the $$ over your cost. Im sorry that you are losing out on shipping, but i dont understand y the package is $70. The box is light and not that big. BC could have save you some $$ if they did package it in a smaller box as all the space in it wasnt used, just to let you know

_JDMU
08-11-2004, 06:05 PM
The box is huge man, its not small. I wouldnt mind paying 15 bucks to cover the shipping and I can see where hes coming from.

Anyways, I got mine today and the exaust was perfect, no dings at all...even the box was perfect. Thanks a lot for this GB!! I will do business with you again

Now I just gotta figure out how these springs work

420sx
08-11-2004, 07:34 PM
hey post a pic on the car when you get it on there and a clip :) yea i know i want too much

_JDMU
08-11-2004, 10:44 PM
I should have them up by saturday afternoon.

MadScientist
08-12-2004, 08:26 AM
inconsiderate? i waited with no complaints. also i have passed up other exhuast group buy and then "if it was the case" have had charge the addition $15, then I would have gone through with the other group buys. Do you see where I stand.

And I understand where you are coming from, business wise. @50 a package, it probably may not cover the $$ over your cost. Im sorry that you are losing out on shipping, but i dont understand y the package is $70. The box is light and not that big. BC could have save you some $$ if they did package it in a smaller box as all the space in it wasnt used, just to let you know

Sorry to come at you like that trsilvias13! :bow: All the BS Buddy Club is throwing at me has me pissed off.
Just to give everyone an Update on the Buddy Club Bull Shit (thats right, I said it) ... They Import Constantly, as do most International Companies...also the Exchange Rate may suck right now, but its better than it was 3 months ago!! So WHY? would you tell All your Dealers that you have a set Discount on all parts... then when they order, lower the discount and claim its for importing!!! On top of that, if it is for Importing cost, and you know your boxes are to damn big for the product, MAKE IT SMALLER... Why pay for AIR to be imported from Japan!!!

I have the rest of the Exhaust being shipped to me Just so I can see pesonally how bad it is. I will be resizing the boxes and informing Buddy Club!!

trsilvias13
08-12-2004, 09:59 PM
ok , just to let u know i filled up 2 big garbage bags of peanuts, and have a lil left for one of those "THANK YOU" shopping bags from chinese grocery store, they make good bean bags filler.

_JDMU
08-12-2004, 10:59 PM
Yea the box was topped with peanuts. If they put the two peices side by side, they could have made the box (easily) a 1-2 feet smaller.

Does anyone know how to get these springs on the exaust?????

Bbandit
08-13-2004, 11:17 AM
The exhaust is in the car!
OMG this exhaust is sick!! MEAN, DEEP and LOUD with my ka-t...
oh and I can hear the turbo spooling and wistling from the exhaust tip.
The silencer reduces the loudness by quite a lot, but Im not going to use that silencer for a while.
I have more top end power now (damn that stock 2 inch exhaust chokin my turbine).
Easy to install, very lightweight, and the most important thing... it looks so clean and simple without muffler :)
Thanks madscientist!


Oh to put the springs in.. you have to pull/pry those welded hooks on the pipe.. just use a flathead screwdriver.

_JDMU
08-13-2004, 10:46 PM
The exhaust is in the car!
OMG this exhaust is sick!! MEAN, DEEP and LOUD with my ka-t...
oh and I can hear the turbo spooling and wistling from the exhaust tip.
The silencer reduces the loudness by quite a lot, but Im not going to use that silencer for a while.
I have more top end power now (damn that stock 2 inch exhaust chokin my turbine).
Easy to install, very lightweight, and the most important thing... it looks so clean and simple without muffler :)
Thanks madscientist!


Oh to put the springs in.. you have to pull/pry those welded hooks on the pipe.. just use a flathead screwdriver.Thats awsome! I cant wait to hear what it sounds like on my KA. Yea I figured the springs out last nite/ this morning. Thanks though. Did yours backfire at all yet?

_JDMU
08-16-2004, 02:26 PM
Anyone have on car pics yet?

Ive tried to install mine twice now but nothing has come up but problem after problem (not with the BC exhaust) Everything was rusted to shit and now I have no pipes on it.

trsilvias13
08-16-2004, 11:40 PM
i install mine already, but no camera, i cant even start it up only becuase im missing a cat. i think im gonna get the project nissan thingy

Adikt
08-17-2004, 07:56 PM
hey madscientist i sent my payment out yesterday u should be getting it within the next few days

its for order number 641 btw

red_sir
08-17-2004, 09:30 PM
hey madscientist i sent my payment out yesterday u should be getting it within the next few days

Isn't this groupbuy over?

Adikt
08-17-2004, 10:16 PM
yea it is however i never paid him so i sent my payment out now

element240
08-18-2004, 07:21 PM
madscientist , what's the status of my exhaust? you said it was supposedly shipped out a couple fridays ago... ???

_JDMU
08-18-2004, 11:22 PM
I just installed mine on my stock KA and this thing sounds awsome. I thought it would be really loud but I love the sound. Low and mean and its got a nice rumble while driving.

MadScientist, do you need any soundclips?

MadScientist
08-19-2004, 08:30 AM
madscientist , what's the status of my exhaust? you said it was supposedly shipped out a couple fridays ago... ???

4 exhaust were shipped out from Buddy Club USA... if you didn't recieve tracking then it didn't ship, and I have it being shipped to me, so I can make the boxes smaller.

_JDMU - I dont need one persoanlly but it would be cool to post one on here so everyone can get a better idea.

Adikt
08-19-2004, 11:28 AM
madscientist did you get my payment yet??????

Two4zerO
08-19-2004, 05:35 PM
i sent you a email on yahoo its for order #599...let me know wats the status..

MadScientist
08-20-2004, 09:01 AM
madscientist , what's the status of my exhaust? you said it was supposedly shipped out a couple fridays ago... ???
I got all the remaining exhaust in yesterday, reboxed and shipped yours out. I will send you tracking.

Original Box Size: 63" x 16" x 16"
S13 Box Modified: 63" x 16" x 9"
S14 Box Modified: 55" x 16" x 10"
FedEx delivered all 3 Original boxes to my location for less than $70!!!

Yes, I said 3 Boxes... Buddy Club screwed up again :cj: ... Element240's exhaust when out, so now I have 2. One S13, One S14... still trying to figure out where they went wrong.

Adikt
08-20-2004, 10:17 AM
madscientist whats the status of order #641 ?

devonkyle77
08-23-2004, 12:41 AM
anyone have a pic of this exhaust on an s14? and i guess its too late for me to get one for my s14 at that price, eh?

element240
08-24-2004, 01:05 PM
woo hoo got my exhaust today! i like it very much :D

some quick pics (WARNING! PICS MAY BE LARGE!):

Bbandit
08-24-2004, 01:13 PM
This exhaust is sick!
I got mine a while ago... it sounds badass with the ka-t
Low deep growl and loud.. and it shoots fireballs.. I can even hear the turbo spooling/whistling from the exhaust.
and the best part about this exhaust is.... it doesnt look like any other N1 style exhaust :)

Love it.
Thanks for a great deal madscientist :)

element240
08-24-2004, 01:19 PM
^werd , i love the design. it's not a typical canister exhaust.
much props for madscientist getting through even with all the BS that buddy club usa put him through.

MadScientist
08-24-2004, 05:31 PM
^werd , i love the design. it's not a typical canister exhaust.
much props for madscientist getting through even with all the BS that buddy club usa put him through.

Very Very glad you guys are happy with the exhaust.... The BS with Buddy Club is not over Yet.... I have 2 Exhaust Systems that Buddy Club has yet to send me from this Group Buy!!

ch1873857
08-24-2004, 05:55 PM
any sound clips?

Bbandit
08-26-2004, 02:33 PM
No sound clips yet.. I havent got the time to unwrap my brand new cam corder :)
But whenever I do, I'll post it on chat.

But here's some eyecandies for you all.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/bbandit/Dailydrifter/D_nuts/YudaRear.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/bbandit/Dailydrifter/08012004/buddyclubspecII.jpg

gmckey
08-26-2004, 04:01 PM
I want video!

ch1873857
08-26-2004, 08:02 PM
ive wanted this exhaust sooo long. probably for a year now. never found anyone that carried it. if anyone wants to sell theres sometime, drop me a pm. madscientist...how hard would it be to get one now that the gb is already over. just a question. looks nice bandit....the whole thing.

MadScientist
08-27-2004, 09:06 AM
ive wanted this exhaust sooo long. probably for a year now. never found anyone that carried it. if anyone wants to sell theres sometime, drop me a pm. madscientist...how hard would it be to get one now that the gb is already over. just a question. looks nice bandit....the whole thing.
http://www.raretrick.com/index.asp?cat=1904&Page=1&Display=Yes&Back=Listings&ProductsID=7164
There is the link, now all you have to do is order. Yes it is Special Order but you have waited sooo long so it shouldn't be an issue.
:wiggle:

Soulja
08-27-2004, 02:31 PM
I anyone else having a problem with it hitting the tow hook, and the pumpkin? The pumpkin I figured because the subframe spacers i have drop it down slightly. Its not resting against the pumpkin, but if it moves, it contacts. I may have to cut off the tow hook.

_JDMU
08-27-2004, 03:05 PM
Mine clears the pumpkin just fine. The only problem ive had is one of the hangers keeps coming out when I drive but its no big problem.

240 2NR
08-27-2004, 03:57 PM
I anyone else having a problem with it hitting the tow hook, and the pumpkin? The pumpkin I figured because the subframe spacers i have drop it down slightly. Its not resting against the pumpkin, but if it moves, it contacts. I may have to cut off the tow hook.


Seems pretty typical to have to cut off the tow hook when installing exhausts on 240's (did on my and my friend's).

For those with it installed on an NA application how loud is it compared to other common exhausts w/ and w/o the silencer?

MadScientist
08-27-2004, 03:59 PM
Mine clears the pumpkin just fine. The only problem ive had is one of the hangers keeps coming out when I drive but its no big problem.

I can get New Stiffer Exhaust Bushings if you need, $10 each.

_JDMU
08-27-2004, 09:35 PM
Seems pretty typical to have to cut off the tow hook when installing exhausts on 240's (did on my and my friend's).

For those with it installed on an NA application how loud is it compared to other common exhausts w/ and w/o the silencer?
Well I havent heard it outside of the car yet, I need somone to drive it for me so i can hear. But my friend said it sounds like his brothers N/A Supra, but a little louder and my car is BONE stock.

Soulja
08-28-2004, 06:32 AM
I cut off my tow hook, so thats one problem down. The piping is like 2mm away from the pumpkin, and keep vibrating against it. With the silencer in, you can hear the vibrations much more, and the vibrating makes my damn car sound like a riced out civic. I need to figure something out.

element240
08-28-2004, 07:25 PM
^make sure the exhaust bolts are tightened down properly.... sometimes if you tighten one side down more than the other it's not even and makes the exhaust cocked to one side.... (happened to me before)

boost infested
08-28-2004, 10:55 PM
damn, the more i look at this exhaust the more i want it! i already have hks hi power exhaust on my s13. i wish i would've gone with this exhaust.

MadScientist
08-30-2004, 10:32 AM
I cut off my tow hook, so thats one problem down. The piping is like 2mm away from the pumpkin, and keep vibrating against it. With the silencer in, you can hear the vibrations much more, and the vibrating makes my damn car sound like a riced out civic. I need to figure something out.

Thermal Tape the section that is touching, and Stiffer Exhaust Bushings that is the only solution I can think of.

Two4zerO
08-30-2004, 06:08 PM
madscientist i sent you a email about my payment for number 599 but you havent gotten back to me at all...