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240sx1234
08-21-2010, 07:47 PM
Alright guys, I have a greddy header that i got a good deal on,and im looking to install it on my s14. I have heard they are really crappy,but i already have it and i want some more exhaust flow.The header doesnt have a place for the egr tube to go into, so I am wondering if I can cut the tube where it comes off the header and weld a quarter/nickel over the tube to get it sealed.Will this cause any problems?

<a href="http://media.photobucket.com/image/egr tube s14/arrospeed/S12_Tech/EGR_tube_KA24DE.jpg?o=1" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/arrospeed/S12_Tech/EGR_tube_KA24DE.jpg" border="0"></a>

g35gabby
08-21-2010, 08:45 PM
coins metal over time.

take it to ace or a hydraulic shop and have them find a proper cap for it.

chiboy002
08-21-2010, 08:51 PM
coins metal over time.

take it to ace or a hydraulic shop and have them find a proper cap for it.

what do coins do?


what i did, which isnt good AT ALL, is ziptied a cloth over it. filters out shitty stuff that would get it. i saved all my bung plugs from my headers though, and what you could do is just stuff it in there. jb weld it?

or just pull it off and hammer it flat then weld it so it doesnt have leaks. honestly though, if you're taking it off you might as well build a block off plate and do it right.

240sx1234
08-22-2010, 02:23 PM
do it right as in taking the whole egr system out?dont you have to take off the intake manifold?im just looking to do something quick right now

davirene
08-22-2010, 02:40 PM
I went to ace hardware and bought a plug for $3.

93nismo
08-22-2010, 02:41 PM
i cut a rubber hose that fit it and clamped it on nice and tight. then got a big fuckin bolt and plugged the rubber hose with the bolt. i don't have a daily otherwise id do it the right way. but seeing as im a delivery boy i cant have too much down time with my car.. its been this way for about a year now with zero problems at all.

link to pic: http://s1025.photobucket.com/albums/y314/93nismo/zilvia/?action=view&current=82210.jpg


if you can get it to come off without cutting it im sure you can have a cap made now that i think about it. i unno if thats what everybody else was getting at or not. its a 23mm btw. and its a bitch and a half to get off without the right wrench. hence, i just cut mine. id try and break it loose if you can though just incase you ever try to sell it and don't want the header to go with it.

http://s1025.photobucket.com/albums/y314/93nismo/zilvia/?action=view&current=82210.jpg

Pacman
08-22-2010, 09:52 PM
Don't destroy government property, i.e. coins. We're already in debt. lol

SnakeKack
08-23-2010, 09:23 AM
I'm not trying to jack the thread it just seems to be on the same subject as what I'm seeking advice for. The nut threading into the stock header seems to be a 24mm. I want to know if that is the correct size. I am assuming it is since everything else on the car is metric.

But my other issue is I can't get the friggen thing to budge. The threads already started to strip a bit on one corner and I want to back off until I find a better solution. I soaked it in PB blaster overnight and this morning. I need to remove it to pull the header back to replace the manifold gaskets. I was thinking of unbolting the other side but that looks way harder to get to (behind head). Anyone have suggestions?

Katsumbhong
08-23-2010, 09:46 AM
I'm not trying to jack the thread it just seems to be on the same subject as what I'm seeking advice for. The nut threading into the stock header seems to be a 24mm. I want to know if that is the correct size. I am assuming it is since everything else on the car is metric.

But my other issue is I can't get the friggen thing to budge. The threads already started to strip a bit on one corner and I want to back off until I find a better solution. I soaked it in PB blaster overnight and this morning. I need to remove it to pull the header back to replace the manifold gaskets. I was thinking of unbolting the other side but that looks way harder to get to (behind head). Anyone have suggestions?

24mm

msglngth

chiboy002
08-23-2010, 12:47 PM
do it right as in taking the whole egr system out?dont you have to take off the intake manifold?im just looking to do something quick right now

yeah pretty much you have to, its not required but it makes the job 1000% easier. if you wanna do something quick, go buy a plug at a hardware store. Nissan sells plugs also, but theyre like 20$ or something crazy like that.

kamilitaryman
08-23-2010, 01:19 PM
Alright guys, I have a greddy header that i got a good deal on,and im looking to install it on my s14. I have heard they are really crappy,but i already have it and i want some more exhaust flow.The header doesnt have a place for the egr tube to go into, so I am wondering if I can cut the tube where it comes off the header and weld a quarter/nickel over the tube to get it sealed.Will this cause any problems?

<a href="http://media.photobucket.com/image/egr tube s14/arrospeed/S12_Tech/EGR_tube_KA24DE.jpg?o=1" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/arrospeed/S12_Tech/EGR_tube_KA24DE.jpg" border="0"></a>

The feds are gonna come knockin on your door, shoot your dog and take your 240sx if you put one single coin on there instead of a proper cap...

stinky_180
08-23-2010, 01:59 PM
14052-21r00

EDIT: Whoops, I thought you were trying to plug the egr port on the header, MY BAD!

Remove the EGR pipe off the EGR Valve and use an EGR Block Off Plate:
http://www.google.com/products?q=s14+240sx+ka24de+egr+block&hl=en&aq=f

There are several different ones and I'm unsure which one works the best.

HS13KLS
08-23-2010, 02:07 PM
i guess i kinda did a ghetto way. but it works flawlessly.. i just took the tube, cut it. bent it. and welded it shut. ive never had a problem.

g35gabby
08-23-2010, 02:08 PM
what do coins do?


what i did, which isnt good AT ALL, is ziptied a cloth over it. filters out shitty stuff that would get it. i saved all my bung plugs from my headers though, and what you could do is just stuff it in there. jb weld it?

or just pull it off and hammer it flat then weld it so it doesnt have leaks. honestly though, if you're taking it off you might as well build a block off plate and do it right.

melt..... mustang guys used to do this all the time till they found newer pennies will melt due to the heat of the exhaust over time. older pennies with less zinc(I think, maybe it is a different metal in the composite) will not melt nearly as fast. It is so simple to just go get a proper cap/plug to not have to worry about it.

240sx1234
08-31-2010, 11:14 PM
can i get an exhaust shop to cut the egr pipe right where it goes into the header,so i can take the header off and get them to weld that shut?

g35gabby
09-01-2010, 07:41 AM
take the Header off and unscrew the EGR pipe. exhaust shop can weld it shut, you can get a proper cap, OR you can use a pair of pliers and clamp it shut.

psulja
09-01-2010, 07:52 AM
Previous owner tried a quarter on my car, and on the trip home from NJ, it melted and I got the EGR CEL

projectRDM
09-01-2010, 11:37 AM
This isn't brain surgery kids.

Cut the pipe a few inches away from the exhaust manifold. Remove the exhaust manifold, then remove the threaded end with a box end wrench or 6pt socket. Hammer the pipe flat, fold it over, hammer it again. There's not enough exhaust pressure to warrant welding it closed when crimping works fine. Do the same at the other end, or remove the pipe and valve and mount a blockoff plate.

Or, buy a suitable plug from any hardware store.

240sx1234
09-01-2010, 06:40 PM
hey RDM, i appreciate it man. I know its not hard, I just dont want to mess anything up.Anyways.. thanks

BoostSlideWayz
09-01-2010, 07:39 PM
i used a quarter for mine... been there for 2 years and no problem.

victorw210
09-01-2010, 08:35 PM
on the header i used a 15/16th to 3/4 inch piping adapter then got a 3/4 inch cap and just screwed it in, for im side i just cut a small peice of metal from an old license plate and used rtv and bolts to hold it in place

chiboy002
09-01-2010, 09:57 PM
melt..... mustang guys used to do this all the time till they found newer pennies will melt due to the heat of the exhaust over time. older pennies with less zinc(I think, maybe it is a different metal in the composite) will not melt nearly as fast. It is so simple to just go get a proper cap/plug to not have to worry about it.
Holy shit, that would be bad. But i thought if you plugged up the intake side of the tubing, isn't there not much heat that goes through it? Just excess heat from the tubing/engine, not gasses?? Or am i wrong

Don't destroy government property, i.e. coins. We're already in debt. lol
LOL :cops:

i would die a laughing man when the government came to my house asking for nickels in my egr tubing because theyre broke.

94spitfire91
09-01-2010, 10:45 PM
Wait doesnt the ecu catch this and show code 41 if it senses any problems with the egr? Sry i might have been told wrong information but my ecu has that code and my engine wont start people told me its somethin with the egr . Totally sry not tryin to thread jack

projectRDM
09-02-2010, 10:05 AM
Wait doesnt the ecu catch this and show code 41 if it senses any problems with the egr? Sry i might have been told wrong information but my ecu has that code and my engine wont start people told me its somethin with the egr . Totally sry not tryin to thread jack

A bad EGR valve won't affect starting. You have another problem. Actually two problems, one is your shitty spelling. Try again in English.

94spitfire91
09-02-2010, 05:57 PM
k mane sounds like yo know yo shi tho dawg. projectRDM, way to act cool and try and be badass by putting down a possible english major.. I dont try to spell correctly i dont have too you were obviously able to read my post. Well i figured I wouldn't start a new thread for a question I would ask on here.. nobody knows? Nevermind, go ahead and continue with your post zilvians