LS14 drift debut,parts review and I need tips

[edub30]

Sunday, May 23, 2010 (http://edrive-toystories.blogspot.com/2010/05/drift-debut.html) Drift Debut!!! (http://edrive-toystories.blogspot.com/2010/05/drift-debut.html)

So last Thursday, we got another set of rims and wheels and on Friday we headed out to the track. We decided to use the balcony on WSIR just to get a feel for the car prior to hitting up the oval. I will start by giving you my initial impression of the vehicle, then all the parts. Being the first time I've ever drifted on a track in over 2 years, I really felt like I had to relearn it all over again. But that could also be because we were driving a whole new animal with over 100 more horses than the old SR we had and with high quality parts and real tires. Unlike the used tires we use to go up to the track with, that lasted 2 runs. The first thing I noticed was that the car had a lot of grip but understeered very heavily. I couldn't quite figure that one out yet. The suspension was really SMOOTH and I am so much happier with this setup than the old S13. So let me start my reviews, but please remember that this is just my initial review being only the first time out on the track. We plan to go once to twice a week, so there will be more to come.
KW clubsports
I love these things!!! On the old S13 we had the KTS coilovers that SPL parts sells. The KW's put the KTS's to shame and there is really no comparison. Looking back, I can't believe I went budget on a part that is so critical to your suspension. I use to get headaches just riding in the freeway to and from the track on the old S13 but with the Kdubs, its such a smooth ride. You can feel the road so much better and the dampening is incredible and its stiff when it needs to be. Its like Cialis for my car!!!
SPL parts links and arms
So I'm rolling with SPL's outer tie rods and tension rods up front and RUCA's, traction rodsand toe rods in the rear. It's really hard to review the performance of a part that has no moving parts, but the quality of SPL's products has to be the best out of all its competitors. You can feel the difference as soon as you take it out of the box. I got to give it to SPL for making quality products that are made in the USA!!! My alignment guys at PrecisionZ also love them and I bet it's because it makes there job easier for making fine tuned adjustments.
KPR steering angle modification
What else is there to say about these. I definitely got more steering angle! I really want to review this one later because I feel my driving skills is not on the level it needs to be to give this an honest review. But I can tell you this much. You know how the steering wheel usually spins hella fast when the car auto corrects in a drift. It doesn't do that no more and its so cool because it gives you so much time to think, react and feel what's going on in the drift.
Welded Diff
All I can say is that I can't believe that I spent a grand on my KAAZ 2way. I can barely notice the difference in the two other than that my welded diff is 75% more quieter because I removed the pinion gears and welded the gears to the casing. Only thing is I don't know is how long it will hold up and what's going to happen when I start pushing 450-500 horses. I did use a 400amp welder to makes sure I got deep penetrating welds, so we'll see. But I must say that this is the best cheapest drift mod I did for my car. Check out the pictures from my prior blogs to see how it looks like.
LS review
I don't even know where to start with this one. It's such a satisfying feeling to drive an LS powered S14 coming from an SR powered S13. The power, torque, sound, its just everything is so much better with less headache and from what I feel a better return on investment. I invested a lot of money in my SR with all the expensive Greddy bolt on's and for the price I could have done it right with the LS the first time around. So I'll chalk it down to a learning experience. Another plus is my car is smog legal! But I'm a much happier person. No turbo, no headaches...
Driver Review
So how did I do??? I didn't take no video so I can't show you, but to be honest, I wasn't impressed with my driving skill on Friday. It just took a while to get use to the car. When clutch kicking, the back end didn't pop out like I was use to because we are rolling with a stock clutch that doesn't bite aggressively. For those that drift out on the balcony, before with the SR I could hit it all up in second gear. But since my car was understeering, I would have to go faster in third for the first turn and downshift to second to finish the run. But it was so much fun!!! To finally reap all the rewards and enjoy all the hard work and money I put into my car. I had drifting on the brain ever since and its all I can think about now. How do I get better... But to me, drifting is one of those sports where its all about seat time to get better. So that's the plan for the next few. Get as much seat time as possible. Going to also try -3.5 camber up front.
The next upgrades for June is a Mcleod twin disc clutch with flywheel, an accusump for my oil and a custom roll cage. So stay tuned!
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But I need help from any real drifters with experience. No internet drifters please. What can I do to help prevent understeer? Also anybody with modified knuckles, what kind of camber are you running up front. Full alignment specs would be nice. Any recommendations will be appreciated.

[DJPimpFlex]

Welded diff will last you forever. Luke (Blu808) has a 700+hp LS1 Turbo with a welded and it's never been a problem. As far as understeer you can try more camber or a softer compound tire up front. I run RT615K's up front and Federal 595's in the rear with good results. With LS1 power and low end torque you can usually push the rear end out without clutch kicking as much as your probably used to in a SR powered car.

[NINJASPY]

You don't mention alignment or tire setup.
What rates are on the kw's?

[edub30]

Thanks DJpimp for the info on the welded diff and the softer tires up front. I had my set up listed on my blog so sorry for not posting my current alignment settings on this thread but they are as follow.
-2.5 in the front with 0' toe
-1 in the rear with .25' toe in
I'm running 17x9 +17 all the way around with Federal ss595 also.
235/40/17 in the front
255/40/17 in the rear
As far as spring rates go, It's f'ed up because I don't even know and I should know. But I think it is 8/6

[DJPimpFlex]

Spring rates are fine, especially since its a street/track car I'm assuming. The toe in in the rear is fine seeing as you have some decent power, but it will make the slide harder to initiate. You will be more stable on power throughout the drift, but if your having understeer problems consider going with 0 toe or even a smidge of toe out. You can also just run 235's all around or even smaller tires to help with your overall grip issues.

[UNITEDMASTER]

In my opinion the federals 595ss are not that great in terms of front end grip,I suggest get a better tire for the fronts & try the other tips above

[edub30]

Thanks for the input guys... I really appreciate it. I'm going back to the track on Wednesday and here is what I'm going to do. I'm going to try -3.5 up front and leave the rears at -1 but will try the 0' toe. I have another set of 4 rims and tires and they are Maxxis MA-Z1 245/40/17 Victras. I will try using those up front and put the feddy's I had in the rear and burn those up. Than I'll try the Victra's all the way around. If anyone has experience with these tires, I would appreciate your input or suggestions with them. But when I buy my next batch, I will definitely try out some better, grippier tires up front. Can you guys throw out any other suggestions other than the Falken RT615k's... But I'll try running 225's up front and 245's in the rear...

[DJPimpFlex]

In my opinion the federals 595ss are not that great in terms of front end grip,I suggest get a better tire for the fronts & try the other tips above

Oh yea for sure, I'll never run them in the front, but for the rear you can't beat em. $66 a tire doesn't hurt either.

[DJPimpFlex]

Thanks for the input guys... I really appreciate it. I'm going back to the track on Wednesday and here is what I'm going to do. I'm going to try -3.5 up front and leave the rears at -1 but will try the 0' toe. I have another set of 4 rims and tires and they are Maxxis MA-Z1 245/40/17 Victras. I will try using those up front and put the feddy's I had in the rear and burn those up. Than I'll try the Victra's all the way around. If anyone has experience with these tires, I would appreciate your input or suggestions with them. But when I buy my next batch, I will definitely try out some better, grippier tires up front. Can you guys throw out any other suggestions other than the Falken RT615k's... But I'll try running 225's up front and 245's in the rear...

Get some serious like DOTR compounds, I mean they last forever anyway and you can't really have to much front grip.

[fckillerbee]

its all tuning. one of my best friends drives a fc with a 215 40 17 ss in the front and a 245 in the rear. But he also has been driving his car for a long time. Most of the "pro's" that I know of, are running little to no camber in the rear, and 4.5-6 degrees negative camber in the front. zero toe all the way around. remove the rear sway bar for more grip if need be, if not enough grip, raise the psi.

I drive a stock ka, and right now my setup is -4.5 front and -2 in the rear, spinning 18's, so it's a little hard, but I drive really aggressive. I have used 595 ss in the front, and also the rs semi slick, right now i'm using the dunlop z1 star spec, and its been a good tire. I have found that the grippier they are, the more car control I have, the less grippy, the farther the car will slide out (imagine 4 wheel drifting) but that can benefit both ways, less grippy in front, more angle, more grip, you get the angle the car will give you. The rear tires are all relative to the front....and it's how you like it.

I haven't driven a ls s14, but mike essa and what used to be his ls fc, was tuned the same way as above, as well as jtp, and a few others. You should get a "pro" to give you a base tune feel for the car, and then customize it to your liking from there...but I guess this is about the same thing.

Good luck man, have fun with it! Its a fun car i'm sure!

[Flybert]

How is this car smog legal? What header did you end up using? Do you have the BAR sticker?

[edub30]

Don't have the Bar sticker yet but the car is smog legal because it will pass a smog test and visual from the smog referee since it is a domestic engine. Well that was what I was told anyway from a reputable smog guy. I'll let you know what happens when its that time of the year.. If it doesn't, then it's trailer time. No worries...

[UNITEDMASTER]

Good fronts are Star specs,Neova's,RS3's. I just tried out the Maxxis Z1s at HTM on SAT runing grip laps they seam to work well but it was not a hot day at all, soooo???. I know your doing the drift thing but ,another method to try & combat understeer would be put a bigger bar in the rear to try & help the car rotate better, I also tried the no rear sway bar thing Im not 100% sold on it though I can feel the better stability on the high speed stuff but low speed car rotation just feels too slow for me (Im a GRIP guy ) so read between the lines LOLLOL.

As far as FC's with no rear sway I think that kinda works well for that particular car,I did a test day at the balcony S13 no rear sway 595ss rears and man I had to work hard to get the car to kick out it waas like it didnt want to get sideways VS my other car with Tanabe sway. Now S-chassis roadrace guys will swear by no rear sway.

You may also want to try a couple MM of toe out in the front. Also maybe come down on rear tire size & air it up since you got the toruqe you should be able to induce wheel spin at will!!!

[fckillerbee]

Don't have the Bar sticker yet but the car is smog legal because it will pass a smog test and visual from the smog referee since it is a domestic engine. Well that was what I was told anyway from a reputable smog guy. I'll let you know what happens when its that time of the year.. If it doesn't, then it's trailer time. No worries...

just the sound of that sounds fishy. From what I have been told, it's a lot harder to pass bar, because it has to look stock. I think that is why the guy above asked what header, cause stock headers will not fit. But if it'll be a track car for sure, then no worries man.

p.s. I don't run a rear sway bar on my ka....it takes time getting used to the "hard" initiations, but once you get used to it, its wonderful.

[UNITEDMASTER]

^^^^ yea I was gonna ask you if you run without the rear bar. So ok Im glad im not trippin ,as to what I felt the car doing!!!!

[fckillerbee]

yeah my theory is that by removing the rear sway bar it doesn't cause the tire to lift under weight transfer so it'll grip more. causing less rotation....if that made sense...

[Shadowhunter]

Would love to see it with a passed smog sticker. Thinking about going LS1 myself.

[GSXRJJordan]

How is this car smog legal? What header did you end up using? Do you have the BAR sticker?

Haha, we were just talking about this!

Don't have the Bar sticker yet but the car is smog legal because it will pass a smog test and visual from the smog referee since it is a domestic engine. Well that was what I was told anyway from a reputable smog guy. I'll let you know what happens when its that time of the year.. If it doesn't, then it's trailer time. No worries...

Correct. If you pass smog (meaning visual matches for the car the engine came from, and you pass sniffer for the year the engine was made) you are "legal", but that's not as cool as having it Ref'd and approved by CARB.

just the sound of that sounds fishy. From what I have been told, it's a lot harder to pass bar, because it has to look stock. I think that is why the guy above asked what header, cause stock headers will not fit. But if it'll be a track car for sure, then no worries man.

F-body headers will fit, some Corvette headers will fit, and GTO headers should fit. It's keeping the cats in the stock locations that's tricky. Not to mention, many LS headers are CARB approved, so any of those would work.

Would love to see it with a passed smog sticker. Thinking about going LS1 myself.

It's fun and relatively cheap. Passing BAR is doable, especially with a 2001-2002 F-body motor since they have less emissions gear and a easier-to-replicate cat setup (two pup cats in the front and two "big/cheap" cats in the back).

[Flybert]

I would go out to an event that has instructors and let an instructor drive your car to help diagnose your understeer issues. I'm 99% sure it's a clutch kick timing issue. It could be the damping on your KW's as well but I'm leaning towards the timing issues.

I'm an instructor at Just Drift and I helped instruct a guy in his brand new c6 z06 vette. He was running 325/30/19's in the rear. I drove his car and the tires were easy to spin so I'm 100% sure that your 255's and tire pressure aren't the problem. Figuring how to turn off the traction control completely and having no angle was the biggest issue we had with that car.

[GSXRJJordan]

I'm an instructor at Just Drift and I helped instruct a guy in his brand new c6 z06 vette. He was running 325/30/19's in the rear. I drove his car and the tires were easy to spin so I'm 100% sure that your 255's and tire pressure aren't the problem. Figuring how to turn off the traction control completely and having no angle was the biggest issue we had with that car.

Traction control turns off with a button, you probably mean Stability Management. The angle thing is horrible though, and the steering ratio isn't exactly quick either... gotta get knuckles!

I've actually thought a lot about doing a C6 Z06 as my next cool car lol.

[Shadowhunter]

Do you know anyone who's actually passed smog in an LS1 S14 Jordan? I know the monster miata guys have done it but have yet so see an s14 pass smog with a swap. Not saying it has not been done, I just have not seen anyone post about it.

[GSXRJJordan]

Nope. I've seen FC and FD guys that've done it, but no S14 people I know have actually cared. It's expensive to replicate that cat setup IMO, and if you can pass your local smog test without it, I don't see the reason (except when it comes time to sell, you can say it's been BAR'd).

[floodo1]

removing rear sway bar will, in the majority of situations, increase rear traction. Most people who track their car (for grip) run without rear sway bar, or run with it but run soft rear springs (6k). This is because the rear roll stiffness with higher rate springs is already high enough to control the roll, so that when you add in the sway bar the roll stiffness is so high that it starts taking away traction.

1 deg of rear camber seems low.

Another reason to increase the toe-out (or decrease toe-in) in the front is so that you end up with more ackermann. This will mean that for a given angle on the outer tire the inside tire will be pointed into the corner more, thus generating a bit more front steering. The only problem is that the car will wander when you drive straight, but this isn't much of a problem for drifting. It'll suck balls for the street though, let me tell you....car pulls right for a few seconds, then maybe left for another few :(

[edub30]

Tuesday, May 25, 2010 (http://edrive-toystories.blogspot.com/2010/05/omfg-that-must-be-why.html) OMFG!!! That must be why... (http://edrive-toystories.blogspot.com/2010/05/omfg-that-must-be-why.html)

Today was a very interesting day. We ordered our clutch after consulting with Lee over at Mcleod Racing, he advised us that their their Mag Force clutch would be the best for our application. Dai is also running that clutch in his LS13. So $1400+ later when I got home. I decided that I was going to swap out the front tires and put them in the rear. When jacked up, I noticed that the front wheel had a lot of slop and the entire wheel was really loose! I mean really loose, like a prostitute. But it wasn't from the wheel nuts but from the hub to the spindle. So after further investigation, I discovered the other side was loose also and that the hub was not seated all the way against the knuckle. Then the light bulb hit and realized that this must be why the car was driving inconsistent and had lots of under steer at times. So I took it over to PrecisonZ and let them deal with it because I wanted to change my alignment settings anyway. So what I'm guessing the problem was, that maybe since I removed the dust shield, that it left a gap or since the knuckle was powder coated, it might of had a lip from where the spindle was masked off, not allowing it to seat all the way against the knuckle. When I installed it, I just torqued it to spec and assumed it was good. So after drifting on Friday, it probably got even looser. So what precisionZ did was impact gun the hub in and even after all that torque, there was still a little slop. Has anybody else ever have this problem. I was thinking about putting a huge washer between the hub and knuckle to compensate for the dust shield. It could also possibly be that my bearings are shot. I did buy them used. But anyways, she's on really tight as it can get and I got my alignment. We'll check her out on the track this Thursday to see if that was the problem. Stay tuned...


Just wanted to say Thanks for everybody's input. I'm really glad we have these forums up so everyone can share knowledge and information. But Sappy bull sh*t aside. I'm really positive that this will solve the problem but want to know if anybody else has had this problem. I'm really starting to think its the bearing. Why else would it have slop because that nut is tight. I wanted to change the alignment settings one change at a time so I can better get a feel for what I like, so I went with -3.5 up front and left the rear camber alone but I did 0' out the toe. As far as running no sway bars, can you name me what Formula D pro driver is running no sway. My progress rear sway was freakin expensive and it better do something. But if that's what the pro's are doing, then they must be doing something right. But I don't know of any pro FD drivers running with no sway. I'm not going to ask a fat kid how to lose weight if you know what I'm saying. Also thanks for the invite to the JD drift clinic flybert. I actually saw Charlie up their getting his car dialed in when I went on Friday and was told the same thing. I'm busy on the weekends. I'm whoring myself out so I can pay for all this expensive car stuff. So I usually go midweek. But I might go to the July 4th event. Also as far as the understeer went. I never had a problem getting the back end out. The back end would come out at 2000rmp just doing doughnuts but when doing mid speed drifts like the 1st turn on the balcony was when it would understeer. I definitely know how to time a clutch kick. But like I said before, I'm narrowing down the problem to having so much slop on my wheels and rolling with a stock clutch. I could even move it a couple degrees, that's how bad it was. But anyways, I'll keep you guys updated. Thanks again...

[GSXRJJordan]

Sounds like your front hubs are done. They're fairly cheap, ~$100/ea at Nissan. If you impact down the nut and there's still slop, it's the bearing.

July 4th is not 'an event'... it's THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE UNIVERSE. All Star Bash is epic.

[edub30]

Yeah, that's what I'm guessing... GSXRJordan.. do you know on the S14 if you can just swap the bearing? Or do you have the swap out the entire hub assembly. I looked for S14 front bearings and they don't sell them. They sell them for the S13 but I know the S13 and S14 have different spindle diameters. Anybody have S14 hubs for sale???

[GSXRJJordan]

Yeah, that's what I'm guessing... GSXRJordan.. do you know on the S14 if you can just swap the bearing? Or do you have the swap out the entire hub assembly. I looked for S14 front bearings and they don't sell them. They sell them for the S13 but I know the S13 and S14 have different spindle diameters. Anybody have S14 hubs for sale???

Nissan sells the entire front hub assembly (the bearing and the wheel studs, but not the knuckle), Ray @ West Covina Nissan is your guy. Tell him I sent ya, he'll give you a wild deal.

[cancoolers]

Sunday, May 23, 2010 (http://edrive-toystories.blogspot.com/2010/05/drift-debut.html) Drift Debut!!! (http://edrive-toystories.blogspot.com/2010/05/drift-debut.html)

So last Thursday, we got another set of rims and wheels and on Friday we headed out to the track. We decided to use the balcony on WSIR just to get a feel for the car prior to hitting up the oval. I will start by giving you my initial impression of the vehicle, then all the parts. Being the first time I've ever drifted on a track in over 2 years, I really felt like I had to relearn it all over again. But that could also be because we were driving a whole new animal with over 100 more horses than the old SR we had and with high quality parts and real tires. Unlike the used tires we use to go up to the track with, that lasted 2 runs. The first thing I noticed was that the car had a lot of grip but understeered very heavily. I couldn't quite figure that one out yet. The suspension was really SMOOTH and I am so much happier with this setup than the old S13. So let me start my reviews, but please remember that this is just my initial review being only the first time out on the track. We plan to go once to twice a week, so there will be more to come.
KW clubsports
I love these things!!! On the old S13 we had the KTS coilovers that SPL parts sells. The KW's put the KTS's to shame and there is really no comparison. Looking back, I can't believe I went budget on a part that is so critical to your suspension. I use to get headaches just riding in the freeway to and from the track on the old S13 but with the Kdubs, its such a smooth ride. You can feel the road so much better and the dampening is incredible and its stiff when it needs to be. Its like Cialis for my car!!!
SPL parts links and arms
So I'm rolling with SPL's outer tie rods and tension rods up front and RUCA's, traction rodsand toe rods in the rear. It's really hard to review the performance of a part that has no moving parts, but the quality of SPL's products has to be the best out of all its competitors. You can feel the difference as soon as you take it out of the box. I got to give it to SPL for making quality products that are made in the USA!!! My alignment guys at PrecisionZ also love them and I bet it's because it makes there job easier for making fine tuned adjustments.
KPR steering angle modification
What else is there to say about these. I definitely got more steering angle! I really want to review this one later because I feel my driving skills is not on the level it needs to be to give this an honest review. But I can tell you this much. You know how the steering wheel usually spins hella fast when the car auto corrects in a drift. It doesn't do that no more and its so cool because it gives you so much time to think, react and feel what's going on in the drift.
Welded Diff
All I can say is that I can't believe that I spent a grand on my KAAZ 2way. I can barely notice the difference in the two other than that my welded diff is 75% more quieter because I removed the pinion gears and welded the gears to the casing. Only thing is I don't know is how long it will hold up and what's going to happen when I start pushing 450-500 horses. I did use a 400amp welder to makes sure I got deep penetrating welds, so we'll see. But I must say that this is the best cheapest drift mod I did for my car. Check out the pictures from my prior blogs to see how it looks like.
LS review
I don't even know where to start with this one. It's such a satisfying feeling to drive an LS powered S14 coming from an SR powered S13. The power, torque, sound, its just everything is so much better with less headache and from what I feel a better return on investment. I invested a lot of money in my SR with all the expensive Greddy bolt on's and for the price I could have done it right with the LS the first time around. So I'll chalk it down to a learning experience. Another plus is my car is smog legal! But I'm a much happier person. No turbo, no headaches...
Driver Review
So how did I do??? I didn't take no video so I can't show you, but to be honest, I wasn't impressed with my driving skill on Friday. It just took a while to get use to the car. When clutch kicking, the back end didn't pop out like I was use to because we are rolling with a stock clutch that doesn't bite aggressively. For those that drift out on the balcony, before with the SR I could hit it all up in second gear. But since my car was understeering, I would have to go faster in third for the first turn and downshift to second to finish the run. But it was so much fun!!! To finally reap all the rewards and enjoy all the hard work and money I put into my car. I had drifting on the brain ever since and its all I can think about now. How do I get better... But to me, drifting is one of those sports where its all about seat time to get better. So that's the plan for the next few. Get as much seat time as possible. Going to also try -3.5 camber up front.
The next upgrades for June is a Mcleod twin disc clutch with flywheel, an accusump for my oil and a custom roll cage. So stay tuned!
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But I need help from any real drifters with experience. No internet drifters please. What can I do to help prevent understeer? Also anybody with modified knuckles, what kind of camber are you running up front. Full alignment specs would be nice. Any recommendations will be appreciated.



If I have enough money, I will buy a car like that. I like its form and form also

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[fckillerbee]

i named the drivers earlier that don't run rear sway bar. essa, and pawlak...although that was their privateer cars last year. I don't know about the mustang,..i just saw the bmw that essa drives the other day, i didn't notice a sway bar, maybe I can pm him in here.

[WISH ONE]

Usually you dial more rear toe in to induce understeer
You can do similar with the front, you can toe out the front wheels to induce more "Roll-In" understeer.
In your case you want the opposite if you have the time to try one change at time, start with the rear, then front and so on.
Sorta pissin in the wind without all the details, so many reasons why this would happen according to set up/mods.
Maybe some of the more experienced suspension guys can chime in.

Anyway dude, your car is super sick... so envious of your LS series! Congrats on an awesome car!

[fckillerbee]

I would like to drive the car...haha...that way I can feel it out. When is the next event you are going to?

[DJPimpFlex]

I think we all would like to drive his car :P

[edub30]

Thanks for the compliments about the car guys... I really appreciate it because just like a lot of you here, I know we have put a lot of time and money into our toys. It almost feels like I have a hot ass girlfriend and all you guys want to f*ck her! It's a good feeling... I think... I'm playing. But I'll for sure see you guys around at WSIR. No point in putting all this work into a drift car and not competing. I'll try to make the July 4th event or as GSXRJordan said "THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE UNIVERSE!!!" But I'll keep playing around with her until she acts right. I remember when I had the S13 dialed in, it was so predictable and that was such a good feeling to know how your car responds. I'll have some updates after hitting the track up tomorrow. I might even update it on my new website I'm making called f*ckmygirlfriend.com!!!

[fckillerbee]

hows the update on the car....shakedown good?

[CityTireOnline.com]

I think you need a different tire setup and rear alignment you can get a lot more traction out of.

[edub30]

What's up CityTire...
I buy all my tires from you guys. I just got the Victra's from you not to long ago. I haven't updated in a while but I will do so tomorrow. Been very busy. Getting the clutch installed and rebuilding the transmission. So I will be down for a few. The car did great last time and I like the feel of it so much better. I ran into another guy at the track with a S14 from Outside Family and he gave me a lot of pointers that really helped me get in tune with my car. I had too much body roll and he suggested stiffening up the dampening in the rear which made all the difference.
So Mr. Citytire guy, can you give me the best tire recommendation for the next time I stop by to buy tires. Also what do you think I should run in the rears? Last time I brought my bitch with me to play with your dog but he wasn't there. Maybe next time.