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ryster
07-28-2009, 01:44 AM
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R.A.D. Experience's Horse Thief Mile 2-Day Madness!!!
Aug 29 and 30, Saturday and Sunday
Grip and Drift!
$180 for 2 days!!!
$100 for 1 day!
Lap timing available
2 days - $40
1 day - $30

Bring lots of tires cause you're gonna burn alot!!!

Camping allowed!
Sched:
Saturday: 8-5 Grip and Drift
Saturday: 6 onwards Bbq party
Sunday : 8-5 Grip and Drift Again!!!

To register please visit our website: R.A.D. Experience (http://www.rad-experience.com)

Paypal address: [email protected]
View [Technical Inspection Requirements] (http://www.rad-experience.com/search/label/Technical%20Inspection%20Requirements)I'd like to, [Register and Pay] (http://www.rad-experience.com/search/label/Registration%20and%20Payment)
For questions and iquiries, [Contact Us] (http://www.rad-experience.com/search/label/Contact%20us)

peace!

lv240s14
07-28-2009, 01:51 AM
sounds like so much fun hope i can make it!!!

Flaco S14
07-28-2009, 01:59 AM
if eveything holds up good the 1st at el toro i will sign up for this event for sure.

breakindrifts
07-28-2009, 02:22 AM
$180 for 2 days of HTM is amazing. :eek2:

Teddy
07-29-2009, 02:17 AM
I will try to make this.

E2EKIELR34
07-29-2009, 02:26 AM
damn this is tempting!

Flipzide
07-29-2009, 03:33 AM
why did i decide to have a class on a monday morning...WHY!!??!?!

:( sounds awesome.

charlie321
07-29-2009, 04:19 AM
i'll go if teddy goes.

94cc0rd
07-29-2009, 11:54 AM
i wanna do this!

DALAZ_68
07-29-2009, 04:52 PM
maybe ill buy some cheap suspension and get a helmet and harness...ahh fuck but id still fail tech...crap...

gripstr
07-29-2009, 05:26 PM
Damn $180 for two days of HTM is ridiculous....

Drifters bring lots of tires....

Jimmy Up
07-29-2009, 05:33 PM
Can I send like a $100 deposit for both days? Its all I have in my paypal at the moment.

I'll have the other $80 on or before the 10th lol. Just want to get signed up.

Let me know :)

ryster
07-29-2009, 07:09 PM
Can I send like a $100 deposit for both days? Its all I have in my paypal at the moment.

I'll have the other $80 on or before the 10th lol. Just want to get signed up.

Let me know :)

Go ahead and deposit your $100. go to our website to sign up.

I think this is the lowest HTM has been. lets do it! Im glad you guys like the super discounted rate!

See you guys end of Aug.

FCDRIFT
07-29-2009, 07:34 PM
i'll go if charlie goes

SUPERSTAR
07-29-2009, 10:56 PM
i'll go if Chow goes.

YoungGun
07-29-2009, 11:09 PM
Oh fuck

!!!!

nieko
07-29-2009, 11:11 PM
ill go if cody goes

YoungGun
07-29-2009, 11:21 PM
then you're not gonna go niekoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

240love^_^
07-30-2009, 12:26 AM
i'll go if nieko goes.

Jimmy Up
07-30-2009, 12:57 AM
NEIKO! Hotel Party??????????????

or camping party???????????

TEXT ME FOR A FAT DISCUSSION ON THE MATTER.

Everybody is invited to either.

roboticnissan
07-30-2009, 12:58 AM
ill go if NO ONE goes lol jk im super interested in this!!!! ive been itching for a htm event!!


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^mike im in for the hotel party!!!!!!

Flipzide
07-30-2009, 01:34 AM
i dont why it didnt occur to me that i could do 1 day until today. maybe i'll do saturday, lol.

ryster
07-30-2009, 01:49 AM
Camping out is way....fun. Hotel parties are sick too.

Either ways we are going to party!

Yeah Brian, do day 1.

nieko
07-30-2009, 02:10 AM
mike.

i fucking hate you.

i will probably most likely be at this.

getting drunk at the night time.....

i hate you

<33

SUPERSTAR
07-30-2009, 01:12 PM
I be there sunday, roll in saturday night.

tt99ol
07-30-2009, 01:20 PM
looks like my car has a deadline
Cody did you get your machine back together?

chard06
07-30-2009, 06:43 PM
2 days of HTM!!! :D A PT Cruiser just hit my car yesterday... I hope the insurance will be fast enough to fix everything so I can run this Madness!

PEACE!

90 DGRZ
07-30-2009, 06:48 PM
iiiii wwaaaannnnaaaa gggooooooooo.........

lechu84
07-31-2009, 10:25 AM
2 days of HTM!!! :D A PT Cruiser just hit my car yesterday... I hope the insurance will be fast enough to fix everything so I can run this Madness!

PEACE!

WTF!! hope everything else is ok.

man i wanna run both days. too bad im broke and in need of suspension.

+1 for R.A.D.

Jimmy Up
07-31-2009, 11:43 AM
Payment sent for both days.

CAN I GET A DRIVERS LIST!!!!!!!!!!


or do you not do that lol

THE PROPHET
07-31-2009, 02:10 PM
I will be sending payment for both days as soon as I can! This is gonna be fun, can't wait to try HTM! :D

nieko
07-31-2009, 02:14 PM
oooooooooh :)

everyone is signing up!

i hate you guys... i need to save money, to do bigger better things!!! muahaha

maybe ill just come hang out?!

SUPERSTAR
07-31-2009, 03:02 PM
Im hungry.

818_99G20
07-31-2009, 03:23 PM
WoW ryan a 2 day event. thats hell of great deal.

My swap on my B13 is done, but having electrical issues and it wont start up. f-my life.

Would love to track my B13 on htm. I'm gonna miss out though. I'm down for the next following rad event.

FCDRIFT
07-31-2009, 06:36 PM
im thirsty

Ceepo
07-31-2009, 06:43 PM
I will go if all you guys that posted go.... lol i wish i lived closer, utah ftl....

chard06
08-01-2009, 11:42 AM
WTF!! hope everything else is ok.

man i wanna run both days. too bad im broke and in need of suspension.

+1 for R.A.D.

control arm is gone and prob the suspension too... the car is in the shop right now just waiting for the insurance... go win in vegas and drive at the end of the month! :hsdance:

tt99ol
08-01-2009, 03:21 PM
Im hungry.

im thirsty


I'm Phil
For real

GSXRJJordan
08-01-2009, 03:58 PM
I be there sunday, roll in saturday night.

Sunday then? Assuming my car's up to par, this'd be great :) Price is unbeatable.

Im hungry.

im thirsty

Me toooooooo.

odi
08-01-2009, 05:09 PM
I have never drifted HTM.
Need advise; How many rear tire sets should I bring for one day?
Anything else to bring for my car?

Thanks

nieko
08-01-2009, 05:40 PM
how many spots left ryan.. no bs!

THE PROPHET
08-01-2009, 05:48 PM
^^you better^^ same question?

ryster
08-01-2009, 05:57 PM
A lot of spots! i will be updating you guys more on Monday.

On my way to HTM for DROP TOP SHOW DOWN RD2

Our yearly miata event

nieko
08-01-2009, 06:50 PM
i know i know..

ill be there...

just for you and mike hahaha

ryan put me down for saturday.

im going to send you an invisible deposit.

but its good, i promise :) i already requested work off

Guitar Nut
08-01-2009, 06:51 PM
ill be there..since ernie/john are going :D..and since i live like 30 mins away..Not driving of course (FC isnt running yet :()..but ill hang out like usual..Looking forward to this ryan oh and sorry i couldnt make it today had to work. (Its josb or as nick/jason/richard call me.. Josh)


Hi phil
Im eating... for real, for real

SUPERSTAR
08-02-2009, 12:22 AM
I have never drifted HTM.
Need advise; How many rear tire sets should I bring for one day?
Anything else to bring for my car?

Thanks


Bring 30 rears, just in case I run out. :hsdance:

S13cl9kid
08-03-2009, 12:25 AM
damm i gotta start saving the green $$$$

94cc0rd
08-03-2009, 01:49 AM
I have never drifted HTM.
Need advise; How many rear tire sets should I bring for one day?
Anything else to bring for my car?

Thanks

what is your skill level and how much power does your car have?

if you are a beginner and not much power, then 1 new set should be enough.

if you are pro and have much power, then 3-5 sets should be good.

fckillerbee
08-03-2009, 09:59 AM
my car has been acting funny. I'll go...anyone want to let me bum a ride?

and +1 for sunday events!

handinpants
08-03-2009, 10:49 AM
i would totally go, but am unemployed, and feel like an 80 yearold man cause i can't even get a job.

nieko
08-03-2009, 12:10 PM
shits gunna be madnesss son madness

im pretty excited for the time inbetween saturday and sunday haha

Jimmy Up
08-03-2009, 12:45 PM
Are we camping? Im down to camp because its less money, unless we do the whole split a room 6 ways type of deal.

Camp= 1 more pair of tires...

THE PROPHET
08-03-2009, 01:38 PM
Im down for whatever

odi
08-03-2009, 04:46 PM
what is your skill level and how much power does your car have?

if you are a beginner and not much power, then 1 new set should be enough.

if you are pro and have much power, then 3-5 sets should be good.


Thanks, that gives me an idea.

nieko
08-03-2009, 06:06 PM
mike your saying a pair of tires is only 10 dollars?

i think thats how much we each payed last time hahaha

im down to camp!!

i did it before haha and its summer now so itll be legit!

but we need to bring a fire pit like last time too... sooo dope.

Jimmy Up
08-03-2009, 08:12 PM
If were allowed to have fire:


I am frying captain crunch chicken strips over an open fire. No bullshit.

Sileighty_DRFT89
08-03-2009, 08:31 PM
its all about them tyson chicken strips son!

I may come out to watch/hangout/ride along

ryster
08-03-2009, 11:50 PM
Lots of spots available guys, both Saturday and Sunday, grip and drift.

We have Lap timers available for you guys too!

Register now!

See you guys at the end of the month!

peace!

Jimmy Up
08-04-2009, 12:11 PM
its all about them tyson chicken strips son!

You wont be eating any captain crunch chicken strips then, bring your Tyson wannabes- TASTE CONTEST

DreamN
08-04-2009, 01:14 PM
I've been wanting to make some Cap'n Crunch Chicken.

I have money for this event, but don't have a transmission. :( FML.

nieko
08-04-2009, 02:51 PM
bro dean.. your not going to come out.

it makes us all sad haha

you say you will everytime but then....

nope. wheres dean?

ryster
08-05-2009, 05:37 PM
You guys can bring a grill for those captn crunch chicken. yum!

Also, a bon fire is allowed if you bring a fire pit.

See you guys there!

nieko
08-09-2009, 03:56 AM
ryan...

dont save me a spot anymore...

im gunna try to make it but finances are not looking good at all right now :(

Knapik
08-09-2009, 01:17 PM
im definitely going to try and make it out on the 29th!

SUPERSTAR
08-09-2009, 04:17 PM
ryan...

dont save me a spot anymore...

im gunna try to make it but finances are not looking good at all right now :(


Bro, really bro?

nieko
08-09-2009, 06:23 PM
yeah.. my job breaks my balls.

i need a new job.

GSXRJJordan
08-09-2009, 06:59 PM
yeah.. my job breaks my balls.

i need a new job.

Meeeeee TOOOOOO. *cough* Ernie *sneeze*.

stretch240sx
08-10-2009, 02:09 AM
Thinking about coming out with the rush guys on the 29th and shooting.... whats the deal with photographers at WSIR?

nieko
08-10-2009, 04:33 AM
no my job really breaks my balls hahahah

im still trying to make this hopefully..

THE PROPHET
08-10-2009, 12:58 PM
I hope you make it too nieko, I'll be sending payment very soon

Jimmy Up
08-10-2009, 01:09 PM
Whats this hope bullshit?

THIS IS HAPPENING- Sack the fuck up Nieko!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!













jk, but really- I know money is stupid for everybody at them moment, but I am going to put this in a light gray so nobody can see it. Much love

driftsilvias13
08-10-2009, 02:09 PM
How many grip spots? I might have to bring my Lotus for timing!

ryster
08-11-2009, 01:18 AM
Lots of spots left.

See you guys at the end of the month.

peace!

Flipzide
08-12-2009, 03:40 AM
Hey Ryan,

I sent x2 1 Day payments for myself and Antoine Venne (Touge_Monster) for Saturday HTM.

Give me a call if there are any problems. Also, I sent you a PM with a question.

Teddy
08-12-2009, 12:25 PM
I might be able to make it out for Saturday.

chard06
08-12-2009, 07:39 PM
17 days to go!!!!

lechu84
08-14-2009, 06:32 PM
All i need is a set of coilovers, a fuel pump and some tires. hope i make it.!!!

Knapik
08-15-2009, 03:02 AM
payment sent! see you guys saturday!

chard06
08-15-2009, 03:19 AM
All i need is a set of coilovers, a fuel pump and some tires. hope i make it.!!!

Didnt you win in Vegas?
Congrats Chu! How's the wedding?

The insurance guy showed up yday and hopefully Ill have the money next week to fix the S13. I hope I can make it before the event.

YoungGun
08-16-2009, 07:37 PM
How crazy would it be if I made it out to this?

Pretty fucking crazy.

THE PROPHET
08-16-2009, 07:52 PM
^^ Yes pretty fuckin crazy

DO IT!!!

odi
08-17-2009, 12:08 AM
Payment sent for Sunday.

First time drifting at Willow super excite!

90 DGRZ
08-17-2009, 12:38 AM
if i make it, it will be a ridiculously great miracle.


it's time to tandem with TEAM BUFFRAT.

lechu84
08-17-2009, 12:42 AM
Didnt you win in Vegas?
Congrats Chu! How's the wedding?

The insurance guy showed up yday and hopefully Ill have the money next week to fix the S13. I hope I can make it before the event.

Doode picked up some JIC's, seems to be in good working condition, drove it around some bumpy neighbor hoods and still pretty stiff.,

Dont reaaly gamble, i lose all the time so i dont even bother lol.
The wedding was great!! i had a blast.

How crazy would it be if I made it out to this?

Pretty fucking crazy.
Doode hows the car man, hope its almost up and running.

THE PROPHET
08-17-2009, 10:29 AM
if i make it, it will be a ridiculously great miracle.


it's time to tandem with TEAM BUFFRAT.
I believe in miracles!!
Yes we need to tandem already!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Jimmy Up
08-17-2009, 10:57 AM
So we need two miracles for TEAM MULSANNE to come through.

I'll go talk to the big guy about the whole miracle thing. Should be good ;)

nismolism
08-17-2009, 11:12 AM
aww shit ima go do the damn thing with an open diff lol...........

Jimmy Up
08-17-2009, 11:17 AM
GET IT WELDED!!!!!

Its not hard to pull it out, go to a shop and give em 20 bucks to weld it. (price may vary)

nismolism
08-17-2009, 11:42 AM
i should fuck it...i would also have to replace a stud im rollin like a smart car dose..lol

nieko
08-17-2009, 01:34 PM
mike can you get me a miracle too bro? thanks!

Jimmy Up
08-17-2009, 06:13 PM
Workin on it as we speak. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!

ryster
08-18-2009, 11:38 PM
End of the month coming up! See you guys there!

Veracity84
08-19-2009, 12:03 AM
Dude! I love rad experiment!

nieko
08-19-2009, 01:41 AM
pretty sure its rad experience?

ryster
08-19-2009, 07:52 PM
Dude! I love rad experiment!

Its rad EXPERIENCE. lol!

PacificDrift_Nick
08-19-2009, 08:02 PM
ryan you are a rad experiment

SUPERSTAR
08-19-2009, 10:08 PM
Rad .

GSXRJJordan
08-19-2009, 10:09 PM
Rad Experiment - see if your gf will let you smash on her good looking friends.

Rad Experience - 1) It works, and you smash... or 2) HTM for two days @ $100/day.

Sileighty_DRFT89
08-20-2009, 04:34 PM
glad to know you guys miss me so much when I don't show up haha. we'll see what happens. i'll have the taco and my easy up lol

nieko
08-20-2009, 10:17 PM
well dean im probably not actuallly doing this event... but i think im stil down to go.

carpool?!??!

THE PROPHET
08-21-2009, 11:01 AM
ryan you are a rad experiment
Nick where the fuck have you been......i miss you mang!!!

ryster
08-22-2009, 03:26 AM
ryan you are a rad experiment

Thank you Nick. :)

Rad Experiment - see if your gf will let you smash on her good looking friends.

Rad Experience - 1) It works, and you smash... or 2) HTM for two days @ $100/day.

Best definition ever.......probably should use this as a sig but its HTM for two days @ $90/day. lol!

See you guys in a week!

HTM here we go!

peace!

Jimmy Up
08-22-2009, 10:41 AM
I watched in car videos on youtube for a solid hour last night.

Im too fuckin pumped for this.

YoungGun
08-22-2009, 11:40 AM
Someone let me drive your car for a few laps?

Thanks.

nieko
08-22-2009, 01:43 PM
ooooh!

me too please :)

THE PROPHET
08-22-2009, 02:22 PM
Damn i cant pay till Wednesday when i get payed, payment will be done that day for both days for sure...Pinky promise! lol

nieko
08-23-2009, 12:21 AM
can nieko actually make this?! wtf?!

mike i am going for sure, i already have the days off.

debating if i should save money or actually go to this... fuck fuck fuck

ryster
08-23-2009, 12:58 AM
^^^
Do it! lol!

chard06
08-23-2009, 01:13 AM
Car is ready and we'll see you guys at the event!!! :ughd:

90 DGRZ
08-23-2009, 03:17 AM
nieko, PLEASE GO so me, teddy, mike, moe, and YOU can TANDEM.

USMC101st
08-23-2009, 04:04 AM
Whoa, this thing sounds cool. I heard my friend talking about going to the track. This would be great for me. Sounds pretty bad ass. How can I sign up?

Jimmy Up
08-23-2009, 01:24 PM
Just a heads up to anybody that is taking off from 626 area:

Friday Night a group of us are going to Roscoe's in Pasadena at around 8 pm then driving out to willow after and staying at one of the hotels/motels around there.

Whoever is down is more than welcome to come, but you have to be down, or you cant come.

lechu84
08-24-2009, 12:10 AM
Doode my car is READY!! just the lack of tires is scaring me.. lol

Teddy
08-24-2009, 12:23 AM
I thought my car was ready but after taking it out for a test drive I realized the motor is not running correctly and I'm broke as fuck.

nieko
08-24-2009, 12:25 AM
teddys out fo sho.

i have money to do this but i dont know if it is top priority....

ryan... free event? thanks baby gurl :)

Teddy
08-24-2009, 12:42 AM
I'm trying really hard to make this.

chard06
08-24-2009, 02:41 AM
Doode my car is READY!! just the lack of tires is scaring me.. lol

i knew you can't resist it! Is Jan coming?

Im gonna shoot some pictures too since I got my new camera! Im pretty sure it will be packed with action!

See you guys Saturday!:bow:

lechu84
08-24-2009, 11:21 AM
i knew you can't resist it! Is Jan coming?

Im gonna shoot some pictures too since I got my new camera! Im pretty sure it will be packed with action!

See you guys Saturday!:bow:

Nah jan wont be coming, she has work.

i heard about your camera. CONGRATS lol

Jimmy Up
08-24-2009, 11:44 AM
teddys out fo sho.

i have money to do this but i dont know if it is top priority....

ryan... free event? thanks baby gurl :)

What else would b top priority you fuck!?

I'm trying really hard to make this.

I hope you do man, havent seen you in a good 4 years...

nieko
08-24-2009, 12:18 PM
4 years lololo

well ive had something sitting in my storage for like 6 months and nothing has been done to it but things are starting to happen.... i kinda want to finish it grrr

but maybe... fuck

Jimmy Up
08-24-2009, 12:28 PM
Give that KA a last fuckin hoorah

nieko
08-24-2009, 12:30 PM
Gosh, I hate you Micheal Mancuso.

Teddy
08-24-2009, 12:48 PM
I hope you do man, havent seen you in a good 4 years...

Seriously man, where have you been all my life?

chard06
08-24-2009, 12:48 PM
Whoa, this thing sounds cool. I heard my friend talking about going to the track. This would be great for me. Sounds pretty bad ass. How can I sign up?

Here are the links:
Paypal address: [email protected]
View [Technical Inspection Requirements] (http://www.rad-experience.com/search/label/Technical%20Inspection%20Requirements)
Click to, [Register and Pay] (http://www.rad-experience.com/search/label/Registration%20and%20Payment)
For questions, [Contact RAD Experience (http://www.rad-experience.com/search/label/Contact%20us)[/URL][URL="http://www.rad-experience.com/search/label/Contact%20us"]] (http://www.rad-experience.com/search/label/Contact%20us)

:boink:

Jimmy Up
08-24-2009, 01:01 PM
Gosh, I hate you Micheal Mancuso.

Youre not down to hate me, you are down to drive that car like its nobody's fuckin business.

Seriously man, where have you been all my life?

Right here, chillen with every other 626 Drift and Team Mulsanne member other than you haha.

Make it out here brotha.

nieko
08-24-2009, 04:20 PM
FUCK.

gunna go buy oil for an OIL CHANGE.

gunna go buy tires for a DRIFT EVENT.

gunna have to wait months to FINISH SR.

gunna cry after this event because If HAVE NO MONEY.

ryan... you should give a broke white kid discount + early bday present discount ;)

Jimmy Up
08-24-2009, 04:43 PM
Atta baby Nieko, one more man to the friday night caravan after roscoes

Teddy
08-24-2009, 05:14 PM
ryan... you should give a broke white kid discount

And if you don't, it's discrimination! Haha!

nieko
08-24-2009, 05:29 PM
it sure is!

dont discriminate ryan!

i am only going if teddy chuck mike and moe are ALL going... end thread.

Jimmy Up
08-24-2009, 05:31 PM
3 out of 4 confirmed.

Teddy needs to get on the ball. Got off zilvia and fix your car fucker!!!!!!

nieko
08-24-2009, 05:47 PM
im going to sleep in my car on friday if we drive up there hahah and bring sandwiches from home.

ryster
08-24-2009, 05:51 PM
I would like to give all of you guys a super discount, this is the best I can do price wise.

I appreciate all of you guys still wanting to drive and keep the grassroots sport going despite of the tough economy.

Lets do this! 18 hours of HTM @ $10/hour.

See you guys there!

peace!

ryster
08-24-2009, 05:52 PM
How about we camp out on Friday?

Jimmy Up
08-24-2009, 05:53 PM
Will they let us do that?


Saves money for sure....

ryster
08-24-2009, 06:08 PM
As long as I make the arrangements.

I know a lot of the guys driving on Sat want to get a hotel room Sat night. I can make it happen on Friday if you guys want.

nieko
08-24-2009, 06:18 PM
im down for friday camp session.

super down actually.

ryan i can give you cash at track correct? :)

nieko
08-25-2009, 12:54 AM
nevermind PAYMENT SENT!

Teddy you better be there or I will kick you in the nuts.

Spectating, or driving. doesnt matter.

You also better be driving with us on friday night to camp.

knucklehead1
08-25-2009, 01:46 AM
I guess ill be there Friday night... I'm not gunna drive but chilling is good enough. Should I bring a bbq ryan or no. Haha and if anyone needs to borrow tent I got a extra..

lechu84
08-25-2009, 01:52 AM
^^you should drive shane, your sohc still has some power in it.

THE PROPHET
08-25-2009, 12:14 PM
nevermind PAYMENT SENT!
Fuck yeah Nieko!!
Mike...check
Me....check
Chuck... check
Nieko...check
Teddy...???...please say your going

knucklehead1
08-25-2009, 12:45 PM
I would drive but its my daily with a rod nock. haha so ima chill.

GSXRJJordan
08-25-2009, 03:35 PM
This thread is not a Mike/Teddy/Neiko post whore thread.

But since my car probably won't be drivable, I won't be going. So I can't really talk. :keke:

Jimmy Up
08-25-2009, 04:35 PM
I dont think we've gone off topid once 2J.

RYAN!- what time do we have to be at the gates at Friday night so that we can camp?

Teddy
08-25-2009, 04:51 PM
Fuck yeah my car works! See you all Friday night!!!!

nieko
08-25-2009, 05:02 PM
siiiiick so your hitting up roscoes with us right teddy?!?!?!

this event is gunna be the shit

THE PROPHET
08-25-2009, 05:05 PM
Im so happy right now :D

Jimmy Up
08-25-2009, 05:19 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH

Lets rumble.

Teddy
08-25-2009, 05:34 PM
siiiiick so your hitting up roscoes with us right teddy?!?!?!

this event is gunna be the shit

I think I am, but then there's this girl and I might hang out with her on Friday night??? Idk yet.

Flipzide
08-25-2009, 05:43 PM
anyone camping friday night want to save me a spot for my truck/trailer? i will love you long time :D

nieko
08-25-2009, 06:09 PM
bro girls suck... literally. so maybe you should.

butttt if nothing is going to happen.

fuck that, go to roscoes and caravan with us motha fuckaaaaaaaaa <3

Teddy
08-25-2009, 06:15 PM
Well, we'll see what happens. Worst case scenario I'll meet you guys at HTM during the night (if they let me in?)

PacificDrift_Nick
08-25-2009, 06:42 PM
Nick where the fuck have you been......i miss you mang!!!

i know im a busy man!!!!!!!

where have you and mike been!!!!!


wait did someone say Roscoe's????????

nieko
08-25-2009, 07:10 PM
teddy if anything ill drive up to the automatic gate and open for you ;) real nice

Teddy
08-25-2009, 07:16 PM
Haha alright, that works.

ryster
08-26-2009, 12:16 AM
You just need to be there before 10pm.

There is another gate right by the wrist band booth.

You can still come in but you have to leave your car out there if you get locked out.

See you guys this weekend.

Teddy
08-26-2009, 02:14 AM
The hell with that, I'm not leaving my car outside in the barren desert where rattle snakes and desert hoodlums might tamper with my belongings.

nieko
08-26-2009, 02:17 AM
ryan you realize none of us will be there before 10 right? hahaha are you going to? because they have automatic gates that if you try to leave they will open so you could just roll up to them and let us in :)

lechu84
08-26-2009, 01:07 PM
^^ dont they have a main gate that they close at night?? last time we were there in the buttcrack of dawn, those gates were closed. we waited for about half an hour before they opened it for us.

ryster
08-27-2009, 03:54 AM
Yeah they have another gate that closes at 10pm.

See you guys this weekend!

nieko
08-27-2009, 07:07 AM
ryan your not down to ask them to shut the gate but leave it unlocked and when we all get there you will lock it!

you are NOT DOWN!

no seriously... that would be a legit ass plan..

or hide the key under a rock ;)

odi
08-27-2009, 05:48 PM
It's getting so close and I'm stoked to drive HTM for the first time.

Look forward to meeting people.

Anyone feel free to give me pointers, I've only been drifting since Feb.

I will be in a orange s13 (was primer black before) Sunday.

See ya

Jimmy Up
08-27-2009, 07:13 PM
Props for noobs. I started in January lol. Its fun.

lechu84
08-27-2009, 07:32 PM
It's getting so close and I'm stoked to drive HTM for the first time.

Look forward to meeting people.

Anyone feel free to give me pointers, I've only been drifting since Feb.

I will be in a orange s13 (was primer black before) Sunday.

See ya


Doode i remember when i first drove on HTM. BLLAASSTT!!! im pretty sure everyone would be down to give you some tips. Come up to us well be in the registration booth.... (RAD SHIRT) lol

2 moore days. im SYKED!!

Teddy
08-27-2009, 07:39 PM
I started in March.

knucklehead1
08-27-2009, 08:15 PM
So who is camping tomorrow? Just wondering haha don't wanna show up and be the only one. Wouldn't that be funny. Haha

ryster
08-28-2009, 03:51 AM
ryan your not down to ask them to shut the gate but leave it unlocked and when we all get there you will lock it!

you are NOT DOWN!

no seriously... that would be a legit ass plan..

or hide the key under a rock ;)

Yes! I am not down to do that, too much work.... good plan though.

It's getting so close and I'm stoked to drive HTM for the first time.

Look forward to meeting people.

Anyone feel free to give me pointers, I've only been drifting since Feb.

I will be in a orange s13 (was primer black before) Sunday.

See ya

Its a chill environment, where people help other people out. A lot of good drivers showing up too. You can pretty much as pointers from everybody there.

HTM is always fun! It still excites me to go there. lol!

So who is camping tomorrow? Just wondering haha don't wanna show up and be the only one. Wouldn't that be funny. Haha

Give me a call friday morning so you can plan it with us.

--------

Two days of drifting, two days of fun.
I know everybody cant wait to run.

See you guys at HTM!

Flipzide
08-28-2009, 03:57 PM
packed up and ready to rock. gonna leave escondido at 3am, huzzuh!

kapowerhicomp1
08-28-2009, 05:12 PM
Doode i remember when i first drove on HTM. BLLAASSTT!!! im pretty sure everyone would be down to give you some tips. Come up to us well be in the registration booth.... (RAD SHIRT) lol

2 moore days. im SYKED!! haha..... are uuuu ready....l feel the need for speed............. :2f2f::rawk::rawk:

lechu84
08-28-2009, 06:26 PM
^^ almost ready MR hicomp!! just need to replace one of my outer tie rod, switch out some rims and load the truck.

Jimmy Up
08-29-2009, 09:35 PM
This shit was sick.

Big ups to RAD Experience for hosting a ridiculously wonderful and spectacular event. I am home today because we had so much track time that I burnt through 4 pairs of tires... A weeks worth of driving in a day.

I'm going to sleep now.

nieko
08-29-2009, 10:08 PM
love you mike... soo sick hahaha

i love htm... so magical.

sooooo who was doing the vids and pics ;)

Teddy
08-29-2009, 10:28 PM
Bro, those GoPro vids fail because you can't see the hood, so it's a little difficult to tell that you're sideways. I need to get the fisheye version...

Teddy
08-29-2009, 10:28 PM
BTW, thanks again to Ryan for hosting a cool event with very legit driver's meeting and rules. Haha!

Flipzide
08-30-2009, 01:04 AM
HTM hates my wheels. :( hahaha.

i had enough track time to burn through a pair of NEW tires. now that can speak for itself about the event. :)

Teddy
08-30-2009, 01:07 AM
I burned through my power steering pump.

shishcabobers
08-30-2009, 01:47 AM
HTM hates my wheels. :( hahaha.


http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q367/domoshish/DSCF5044.jpg

lulz.

nieko
08-30-2009, 02:37 AM
i burned one and a half pairs and still had time left lol....

fucking fail radiator.

and teddy...... FAIL camera placement soo sad hahaha

i never get legit gopro footage damnit :(

driftsilvias13
08-30-2009, 01:50 PM
This shit was sick.

Big ups to RAD Experience for hosting a ridiculously wonderful and spectacular event. I am home today because we had so much track time that I burnt through 4 pairs of tires... A weeks worth of driving in a day.

I'm going to sleep now.

Dude Mike, was that you in the red s14 wearing the d-max shirt? I swore that was you when you were talking to Tom at streets but I wasnt sure. I was in the black Lotus. You probably didnt recognize me. Your car is looking sick man!!!


And Ryan, nice meeting ya. Too bad my s13 wasnt ready yet or I would have for sure driven!

Teddy
08-30-2009, 01:54 PM
i burned one and a half pairs and still had time left lol....

fucking fail radiator.

and teddy...... FAIL camera placement soo sad hahaha

i never get legit gopro footage damnit :(

Bro, It was a legit spot, but the damn camera needs a wider lense! If you want, I can post it anyway... Our trip to Tom's is legit though. Ahahaha.

Dude Mike, was that you in the red s14 wearing the d-max shirt? I swore that was you when you were talking to Tom at streets but I wasnt sure.

That's actually Adam.. Lulz.

Mike was in a purple S14.

Jimmy Up
08-30-2009, 02:00 PM
Dude Mike, was that you in the red s14 wearing the d-max shirt? I swore that was you when you were talking to Tom at streets but I wasnt sure. I was in the black Lotus. You probably didnt recognize me. Your car is looking sick man!!!


And Ryan, nice meeting ya. Too bad my s13 wasnt ready yet or I would have for sure driven!


Didnt even put 2 and 2 together, I saw pics of the lotus before that too. lol- But no man, I was in the ratllecanned purple one, I would love to have that red one though- so candy.

Say whats up next time man!

THE PROPHET
08-30-2009, 02:01 PM
Sick event guys!! Thanks too rad for hosting this event, I too went through all my tires before the day was over... three sets by 1:00 LOL. HTM has to be the sickest track OMG, so much Fun!!
driftsilvias13- mikes car is purple but yes that red one is nice
Nieko- legit even with fail radiator and fail down pipe haha...but fail with the bartender girl..

nieko
08-30-2009, 02:10 PM
hahah yea lots of fun!

teddy... im down to seeee the foottyyyyyyy :)

you shoulda just followed me x)

Jimmy Up
08-30-2009, 02:33 PM
Dont change the subject Nieko, DID YOU KNOW that the bartender was DTF and you were so not down to be legit...

nieko
08-30-2009, 02:39 PM
i was fucking down! but im bad with signs sometimes hahahaha

SoCal-s130
08-30-2009, 02:40 PM
Real nice.

Teddy
08-30-2009, 02:53 PM
you shoulda just followed me x)

See??? I told you!

Jimmy Up
08-30-2009, 02:56 PM
Real nice.


Let me tell you, she was real nice.

nieko
08-30-2009, 03:20 PM
yea now that i think about it... that woulda been siiiick ass footage if you woulda followed me.

nieko
08-30-2009, 03:21 PM
i still think you should post the bad angle footy :)

Jimmy Up
08-30-2009, 04:01 PM
YOURE NOT DOWN TEDDY!

I want to see some footage, any footage is cool.

Flipzide
08-30-2009, 04:03 PM
YOURE NOT DOWN TEDDY!

I want to see some footage, any footage is cool.

ask and you shall receive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijWWNBbAFzU

my friend Shaun was the one with a camera in the infield and my other buddy, Stretch from 1904photography.com, was taking photos for edrift. should be up sometime.. lol

Touge_Monster
08-30-2009, 04:39 PM
Even though my stitches on my hand were bleeding and my powersteering kept going out this event was awesome! Cool seeing everyone there. Thanks to RAD for having an awesome laid back event!

Jimmy Up
08-30-2009, 05:06 PM
ask and you shall receive.
YouTube - Brian's Fail Reel - August 29, 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijWWNBbAFzU)

my friend Shaun was the one with a camera in the infield and my other buddy, Stretch from 1904photography.com, was taking photos for edrift. should be up sometime.. lol

1:49 made me lol.

YoungGun
08-30-2009, 05:06 PM
LOL Brian when me and chompz were watching you and you waved to us and then you caught air in the turn off!

All 4 wheels were literally in the air! hahaha

Good event, I enjoyed watching.

GSXRJJordan
08-30-2009, 06:45 PM
ask and you shall receive.
YouTube - Brian's Fail Reel - August 29, 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijWWNBbAFzU)

my friend Shaun was the one with a camera in the infield and my other buddy, Stretch from 1904photography.com, was taking photos for edrift. should be up sometime.. lol

LOL dope vid, you def need to hit 3rd before that bottom left hander :) MOAR POWERRRR. Slam 3rd and rip that wheel, feel your asshole pucker while you pray for traction.

I wanna do HTM so bad.

Video made me lol - drifting is supposed to be fun, I love it.

lechu84
08-30-2009, 10:04 PM
Just Got home and finished unpacking. Im am beat but damn i had fun. i burnt through 2 pairs of 15's like nothing. next time funds will be enough for tires lol.

Teddy
08-30-2009, 10:37 PM
LOL dope vid, you def need to hit 3rd before that bottom left hander :) MOAR POWERRRR. Slam 3rd and rip that wheel, feel your asshole pucker while you pray for traction.

I wanna do HTM so bad.

Video made me lol - drifting is supposed to be fun, I love it.


I'm pretty sure everyone does that in 2nd gear except for Luke because car is retarded and a few big boys.

Flipzide
08-30-2009, 10:55 PM
LOL Brian when me and chompz were watching you and you waved to us and then you caught air in the turn off!

All 4 wheels were literally in the air! hahaha

Good event, I enjoyed watching.

oh god. please tell me you got that on video. hahahaha.

GSXRJJordan
08-30-2009, 11:06 PM
I'm pretty sure everyone does that in 2nd gear except for Luke because car is retarded and a few big boys.

My 'drift daddy' Jack hits it in 3rd IIRC. Just like everyone says to hit the keyhole at Balcony at the top of second, but it's waaaay more fun in 3rd, you never run out of gear!

Anyway, we all need something to aspire to :) For me, it's 3rd gear all the time.

Keep the footage coming, I'm already crazy jealous.

ryster
08-30-2009, 11:12 PM
Wow! Just finished everything and ready to sleep.

Thanks to everybody that drove Sat and Sun.

I am glad that all you guys had fun. Too much track time as usual.

-------------
Nice vid brian.

We got a lot of footage, I will post as soon as they finished editing.

See you guys on the next one!

nieko
08-31-2009, 01:55 AM
hahaha such a legit event.

more fun.

more htm.

more drifting.

more ryann.

more tires.

more mike.

more bartender chicks.

Jimmy Up
08-31-2009, 02:28 AM
Posted a bulletin for you Nieko
EDIT BUST

double edit

Time Attack is like having sex to produce children, you are doing it for a true purpose and producing rock solid results. Drifting is like fucking to fuck, because you love it and it feels so damn good.

odi
08-31-2009, 09:41 AM
I had a great time Sunday. Htm is too much fun. First time I got to drift in 3rd gear. Thanks rad experience!

chard06
08-31-2009, 10:53 AM
ask and you shall receive.
YouTube - Brian's Fail Reel - August 29, 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijWWNBbAFzU)

my friend Shaun was the one with a camera in the infield and my other buddy, Stretch from 1904photography.com, was taking photos for edrift. should be up sometime.. lol

That's me at 0:16! lol! I took pictures too and should be up by tomorrow!

nieko
08-31-2009, 11:43 AM
love it mike.... making a new thread right now on socal-drift.

check it ;)

Jimmy Up
08-31-2009, 11:44 AM
hell yea, lets see some exposure!

EDIT:

Cant man, blocked at work due to "social networking sites not allowed"

nieko
08-31-2009, 11:47 AM
well it is there ;)

Knapik
08-31-2009, 12:09 PM
hey ryan, great event! had a great time and cant wait for the next HTM event.

Touge_Monster
08-31-2009, 01:32 PM
I'm pretty sure everyone does that in 2nd gear except for Luke because car is retarded and a few big boys.

The way I was trying was enter in 3rd (thats why i was gripping the lower turn) downshift to 2nd at the top then shift back into 3rd as you transition into the left. This is how I was told to do it

Flipzide
08-31-2009, 01:55 PM
The way I was trying was enter in 3rd (thats why i was gripping the lower turn) downshift to 2nd at the top then shift back into 3rd as you transition into the left. This is how I was told to do it

i think you have more power than me or maybe im just fat as fuck/car is too heavy, but when i tried gripping and going into third like you told me, i was bogging at the top just before the apex and i had to downshift to even get the car to kick out, lol.

eta on shaun's video? lol


Time Attack is like having sex to produce children, you are doing it for a true purpose and producing rock solid results. Drifting is like fucking to fuck, because you love it and it feels so damn good.

Damn Mike. After saying that, you're my hero. It sounds all kinds of awesome, haha.

Touge_Monster
08-31-2009, 02:01 PM
Idk I think you are running more boost. I still did it with zuric and ron in my car. I should have rode along with you

Flipzide
08-31-2009, 02:04 PM
Idk I think you are running more boost. I still did it with zuric and ron in my car. I should have rode along with you

really? im stock like you, lol. i linked the whole course when you went to the tire shop. i had to take a wide line and shallow transition going downhill into the turn.

arent you supposed to be at work? wtf lol

DMaxUSA
08-31-2009, 04:51 PM
Thanks RAD-Experience for a great weekend of driving!! Even though I went through tires super-quick like everyone else, it was alot of fun!!!

Can't wait to support your next event!!

Jimmy Up
08-31-2009, 05:00 PM
You sir, have some beautiful cars...




You guys that were taking pictures are not down to post up some pictures already.

THE PROPHET
08-31-2009, 05:03 PM
yeah any pics or vids soon guys?

GSXRJJordan
08-31-2009, 05:59 PM
The way I was trying was enter in 3rd (thats why i was gripping the lower turn) downshift to 2nd at the top then shift back into 3rd as you transition into the left. This is how I was told to do it

Yeah, see! 3rd gear!

YoungGun
08-31-2009, 06:22 PM
That sounds like too much work.

Floor second gear up the hill (or manji) e-brake and ride second all the way down and shift into third to do the water tower.

THE PROPHET
08-31-2009, 06:56 PM
^^ yup thats exactly what i did cody, even with a KA and it worked lol

chompz
08-31-2009, 06:56 PM
fun time! funny video brian!!!! i'll have some footy for you mikey! :D

mike and moe killin' it!!! :D

THE PROPHET
08-31-2009, 07:34 PM
mike and moe killin' it!!! :D
thanks bro!! Good seeing you out there

Touge_Monster
08-31-2009, 08:24 PM
No offense to anyone but I think manjis are lame up that hill, or on any straight away. I think its a waste of tires and kills speed..... buuuut thats why drifting is cool because you can do it how you want to

Flipzide
08-31-2009, 09:58 PM
HAHA! Ruthlesssssssssssssssss.

odi
08-31-2009, 10:32 PM
No offense to anyone but I think manjis are lame up that hill, or on any straight away. I think its a waste of tires and kills speed..... buuuut thats why drifting is cool because you can do it how you want to


Oh, wow, I can't believe you just said that. Haha.

I'm new to the drift scene so it is all kind of silly to me. But man it was enternaining doing that hillclimb all manji like and what not.

I hope someone got video skidding around that water tower in third. That is the most fun I had drifting so far!

I'm kinda bumbed I wasn't there the first day, it sounds like that was an eventful session.

nieko
08-31-2009, 10:37 PM
bro a manji is what is used to connect straights. lol

what is your technique for drifting a straight?

i do agree if you are trying to save tires then dont do it.

but the best feeling is when your in the top of 3rd shooting down that hill and u ebrake slide long as fuck then downshift to second.

then continue manjing up that hill then dont use the ebrake cuz you hit the apex perfect at the top then fly down in second.

transition ebrake gas ebrake gas ebrake gas.

link the rest of it then up shift into 3rd going down to watertower.

THAT is the greatest feeling.

you know what i think is lame... when you struggle linking htm with your SR :)

nieko
08-31-2009, 10:42 PM
I dont know why i just blew up.

my bad, im sorry.

no hard feelings <3

i love manjiing

YoungGun
08-31-2009, 10:48 PM
transition ebrake gas ebrake gas ebrake gas.


You're the only one that does that, it is very boss/funny.

Jimmy Up
08-31-2009, 10:55 PM
You're the only one that does that, it is very boss/funny.


Second that, definitely more boss than funny though.

My name is Mike Mancuso and I support Manji-ing.

nieko
08-31-2009, 10:56 PM
actually the last event i only had to do that when i fucked up on the transition.

i only did that like 2 or 3 times.

soo legit. my car was running like a boss except for my radiator....and my belts flying off while going down to water tower... that was fucking scary ahahhaha

Touge_Monster
08-31-2009, 11:27 PM
bro a manji is what is used to connect straights. lol

what is your technique for drifting a straight?

i do agree if you are trying to save tires then dont do it.

but the best feeling is when your in the top of 3rd shooting down that hill and u ebrake slide long as fuck then downshift to second.

then continue manjing up that hill then dont use the ebrake cuz you hit the apex perfect at the top then fly down in second.

transition ebrake gas ebrake gas ebrake gas.

link the rest of it then up shift into 3rd going down to watertower.

THAT is the greatest feeling.

you know what i think is lame... when you struggle linking htm with your SR :)

or you could use straight aways to get speed

Big suprise I suck at drifting, but considering i had 7 stitches in my hand with failing powersteering and my first time to htm Im not that worried that I was having trouble connecting it

Flipzide
08-31-2009, 11:29 PM
oh boy...

nieko, he was referring to saving tires, lol.

and i guess he's implying that doing balls to the wall into the turn (ie. Matt Powers) is more baller than manji-ing into a turn (which in turn makes you enter the turn at a slower speed)

*shrug*

oh and Twan was driving with a cut up hand that was stitched up a day before the event. he was bleeding all day and used duct tape on top of a band aid under his glove to continue driving, hahaha.

*EDIT* twan beat me to it...

Jimmy Up
08-31-2009, 11:38 PM
You know what saves tires?



GRIP



hahahahahahaha.

iloveeverybody

818_99G20
09-01-2009, 12:13 AM
Sup Ryan, I Had great time at HTM. It was my 2nd time running this track since last december.... and I felt alive again hehehe. Driving the track counter clockwise was a lil more challenging, but I was handling it!

Thanks for Ryans Bro letting me ride shotgun his S13....That shit was dope, and my first time in a drift car. Hmmm I might need to buy myself a rwd car lolz.

Where's the pics/vids at? I'll post my pics after I get them developed.

chard06
09-01-2009, 01:15 AM
Sup Ryan, I Had great time at HTM. It was my 2nd time running this track since last december.... and I felt alive again hehehe. Driving the track counter clockwise was a lil more challenging, but I was handling it!

Thanks for Ryans Bro letting me ride shotgun his S13....That shit was dope, and my first time in a drift car. Hmmm I might need to buy myself a rwd car lolz.

Where's the pics/vids at? I'll post my pics after I get them developed.

np, anytime! But the car is still in Rosamond after breaking both tie rods... im currently uploading pics right now. should be up soon. will post the link soon!

nieko
09-01-2009, 02:18 AM
im totally all for the balls to the wall speed thing too but hauling ass up hill to hit that turn fast is pointless.

once you clutch kick or ebrake you have to slow down....

its a hairpin. lol

thats why you haul ass down that steep ass hill before and super ebrake slide that shit hahahaha

and i wasnt trying to be mean.. <3

Touge_Monster
09-01-2009, 02:48 AM
im totally all for the balls to the wall speed thing too but hauling ass up hill to hit that turn fast is pointless.

once you clutch kick or ebrake you have to slow down....

its a hairpin. lol

thats why you haul ass down that steep ass hill before and super ebrake slide that shit hahahaha

and i wasnt trying to be mean.. <3

You dont need to slow down because you are going up hill so just initiate aggressively and the car slows itself down

I dont hate on people who manji it is just not for me.

We just have different driving styles and like i said earlier thats what makes drifting cool.

Im not mad Ive got nothing but love for everyone who was there:love:

Hopefully next time I will get the whole traack down:eek3d:

GSXRJJordan
09-01-2009, 02:52 AM
You know what saves tires?



GRIP



hahahahahahaha.

iloveeverybody

Or, not driving at all. FML. :duh:

nieko
09-01-2009, 03:01 AM
well you need to slow down to hit the apex point just perfect so you can shoot down hill more and get as wide as you can without going off and then switch back.

maybe its different because ihave like 0 power hahaha

i <3 my ka24e.

Jimmy Up
09-01-2009, 02:16 PM
Still no pics or vids huh?

Flipzide
09-01-2009, 03:24 PM
Stretch started working on his photos last night when I asked.

ryster
09-01-2009, 05:11 PM
Pics and vids up soon...

Jimmy Up
09-01-2009, 05:19 PM
CANT WAIT MAN!

Hey, hit me up to discuss cool stuff. haha [email protected]

lechu84
09-01-2009, 05:38 PM
Pics and vids up soon...

Wooooohoooo, Show me some teasers :wackit:

ryster
09-01-2009, 05:41 PM
CANT WAIT MAN!

Hey, hit me up to discuss cool stuff. haha [email protected]

Will do Mike, will do.
Wooooohoooo, Show me some teasers :wackit:

Richard is working on it as we post. lol!

Teddy
09-01-2009, 08:22 PM
you know what i think is lame... when you struggle linking htm with your SR :)

Hey fuck you.

Cobbwebs
09-01-2009, 11:45 PM
I'll be done with my vid pretty soon or at least by this weekend for anyone who can dig it

Jimmy Up
09-01-2009, 11:48 PM
I can dig that- Thank you for putting one together. :)

Flipzide
09-01-2009, 11:58 PM
I'll be done with my vid pretty soon or at least by this weekend for anyone who can dig it

upload it to youtube so i can put it on the rush playlist :)

nieko
09-02-2009, 12:48 AM
hahahah teddy.... didnt mean it.

im sorry <3 i got frustrated and angry hahahahahah

love you all!

but yea as mike said.

if there is anything top secret

[email protected] ;)

Cobbwebs
09-02-2009, 12:54 AM
upload it to youtube so i can put it on the rush playlist :)

Fa show i probably do vimeo too but idk yet

stretch240sx
09-02-2009, 01:02 AM
Shaun... Put it on 1904! you know you want to... It has kick as HD!