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Oilcover
05-15-2009, 01:45 PM
evidently not - they're for real.

Astray Racing (http://www.astrayracing.com/index.htm)

http://www.astrayracing.com/assets/wadestraight.jpg


what are people thinking?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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allntrlundrgrnd
05-15-2009, 01:48 PM
any more retarded than this?

http://a321.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/86/l_170fe8391090e47139c566318d9d4f88.jpg

i think not. no offense whoevers car that is, cause im sure theyre on z

Oilcover
05-15-2009, 01:50 PM
boso/victory pipes are retardo too: i haven't seen anyone in the u.s. pull them off right.

adrians_s13
05-15-2009, 01:51 PM
^ that's Teddy's car.

and that IC looks ridiculous... as well as the rest of that car

ryguy
05-15-2009, 01:51 PM
I bet it's functional. Did anybody else notice that they made a Silvia hood work on the 180sx front?

murda-c
05-15-2009, 01:52 PM
I bet it's functional.

if you like fucktons of drag and a huge obstruction to your vision.

ryguy
05-15-2009, 01:53 PM
if you like fucktons of drag and a huge obstruction to your vision.

Hey, I didn't say it had any more going for it than that.

Oilcover
05-15-2009, 01:59 PM
http://www.astrayracing.com/assets/ichood.jpg

:ddog::ddog::ddog:

Wake
05-15-2009, 01:59 PM
if you like fucktons of drag and a huge obstruction to your vision.

did you notice his handle is low n slow? he obviously doesnt mind, and btw that is some of the fugliest functional shit ive ever seen, thats why theres a term called "form AND function" and the silvia hood thing is easy to figure out if you ever done a silvia front end swap. it would look pretty cool with some of the flat piaas. we mocked up just never did it.

VQMaxFan
05-15-2009, 02:00 PM
i liked the wooden motormount idea better

Timeattack_S13
05-15-2009, 02:13 PM
I am crying over here laughing at these pictures and this POS Product.

MannylovesLian
05-15-2009, 02:20 PM
[quote=allntrlundrgrnd;2805313]any more retarded than this?

http://a321.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/86/l_170fe8391090e47139c566318d9d4f88.jpg

i think not. no offense whoevers car that is, cause im sure theyre on z

now that is funny!

ericcastro
05-15-2009, 02:30 PM
shit looks awsome!!! lmao

and poor S13TEDDY.
we tried to tell him the pipes dont work on S13's. But he's young.
He got rid of them along time ago.

FaLKoN240
05-15-2009, 03:50 PM
This is why the world laughs at American tuning.

screaminfast
05-15-2009, 04:34 PM
This is why the world laughs at American tuning.
Yup. Exactly.

HungryHank
05-15-2009, 04:37 PM
http://www.astrayracing.com/assets/wadestraight.jpg

wow

wade is disapointing me

I knew that car looked familiar haha

boozels
05-15-2009, 04:49 PM
omg
lmfao
i just threw up in my mouth a little.

Wake
05-15-2009, 04:53 PM
did they misspell ashtray or asstray for their brand name? lol

LoanShark
05-15-2009, 05:16 PM
The import version of a blower through the hood?
Wade gets ill and its his car so whatever.

Teddy
05-15-2009, 05:25 PM
any more retarded than this?

http://a321.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/86/l_170fe8391090e47139c566318d9d4f88.jpg

i think not. no offense whoevers car that is, cause im sure theyre on z


Hahaha fucking kids.

KoukiMonsta
05-15-2009, 05:39 PM
i liked the wooden motormount idea better

haha fo sho

ericcastro
05-15-2009, 06:23 PM
any more retarded than this?

http://a321.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/86/l_170fe8391090e47139c566318d9d4f88.jpg

i think not. No offense whoevers car that is, cause im sure theyre on z

hahaha fucking kids.
win:d....................

toointoxicated62
05-15-2009, 06:51 PM
epic fail!

kognition
05-15-2009, 06:56 PM
That is kind of crazy looking. But it's getting more cold air. Gotta love those mavericks gettin all mavricky n stuff. :hahano:

evidently not - they're for real.

Astray Racing (http://www.astrayracing.com/index.htm)

http://www.astrayracing.com/assets/wadestraight.jpg


what are people thinking?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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ixfxi
05-15-2009, 08:33 PM
http://www.astrayracing.com/assets/wadestraight.jpg

haha i like how the nice 180SX bumper is attached to a fucked up chassis, it looks all bashed up and bent.. like an accordion. the front is bowed down and it looks like the chassis is taking a crap like a dog

mrmephistopheles
05-15-2009, 09:35 PM
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driftmane666
05-15-2009, 09:36 PM
yo that kid is buggn out. haaha! I check the site doe and it makes sense, Id rock it. fck it

driftmane666
05-15-2009, 09:49 PM
do he is off da chain period. I dont think he care bout nothin :snoop:

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll138/SuislideDrift/Carlisle%202009/carlisle35.jpg

fishhouse
05-15-2009, 10:00 PM
oh man, i saw this shit. how fucking retarded is this guy lol

s13skank
05-15-2009, 10:17 PM
I find those both funny!!!

TanaMU
05-15-2009, 10:34 PM
that pic of the chick on the s13 in the splash page freaks me the FUCK OUT. Look at her hand! And.... lack of a right arm.

Support the war amps.

ZX88
05-15-2009, 11:02 PM
is this a joke? seriously. im wasted and i still think this shit is a fucking joke. lol

HyperTek
05-15-2009, 11:11 PM
im sure their product is good , everyone is just judging their promotion/demo car not looking very friendly and thier name choice isnt too great..
Im gonna take a bet on thier location.. not much real japanese tune influence around them.

this takes the cake though =D
The chassis was probably all busted up in the first place so why not? lol
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Dino%20Dalle%20Carbonare/DriftMatsuri-PT2/IMG_1396.jpg
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Dino%20Dalle%20Carbonare/DriftMatsuri-PT2/IMG_1456.jpg

fishhouse
05-15-2009, 11:21 PM
im sure their product is good , everyone is just judging their promotion/demo car not looking very friendly and thier name choice isnt too great..
Im gonna take a bet on thier location.. not much real japanese tune influence around them.

this takes the cake though =D
The chassis was probably all busted up in the first place so why not? lol
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Dino%20Dalle%20Carbonare/DriftMatsuri-PT2/IMG_1396.jpg
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Dino%20Dalle%20Carbonare/DriftMatsuri-PT2/IMG_1456.jpg

lol. difference is thats a joke. the IC is probably not lol. the product im sure is fine, looks like solid welding and nice end tanks and garret cores are ok. but.. damn lol. i hop ethey dont expect other people to hav their intercooler completely out of the hood.

HyperTek
05-16-2009, 12:13 AM
whats a joke in japan, people out here copy it like its the new lifestyle. lmao i.e. boso cars/victory pipes etc =D

allntrlundrgrnd
05-16-2009, 12:13 AM
Hahaha fucking kids.

not sure who your referring to as kid, but i said no offense cause i didnt mean any, just putting it in perspective. we do all kinds of irrational shit to our cars. Is this that far fetched from stretched tires, boso style pipes, vinyl paint jobs?

no

ericcastro
05-16-2009, 01:23 AM
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll138/SuislideDrift/Carlisle%202009/carlisle35.jpg

This had me busting up, that sign in the background and the victory arm pose says it all...........

not sure who your referring to as kid, but i said no offense cause i didnt mean any, just putting it in perspective. we do all kinds of irrational shit to our cars. Is this that far fetched from stretched tires, boso style pipes, vinyl paint jobs?

no

Im confused.
You know thats S13Teddys car and he was making fun of himself there:Ownedd:

Tantwoforty
05-16-2009, 05:37 AM
any more retarded than this?

http://a321.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/86/l_170fe8391090e47139c566318d9d4f88.jpg

i think not. no offense whoevers car that is, cause im sure theyre on z
omfg i saw a primer hatch with that shit today, it looked and sounded retarded, way to make us all look bad. :duh:

kognition
05-16-2009, 09:35 AM
Upon closer visual scrutinization, this is the driver. Lead singer for LoverBoy
http://www.mtv.com/news/images/archive/Loverboy/sq-loverboy-mike-reno-bandana-son.jpg

do he is off da chain period. I dont think he care bout nothin :snoop:

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll138/SuislideDrift/Carlisle%202009/carlisle35.jpg

artdrifter
05-16-2009, 09:51 AM
What e waste of a beautiful bumper

markapple0507
05-16-2009, 10:09 AM
its funny how that's the only thing the company makes. and doesn't even come with the custom piping need for this intercooler

waynehead05
05-16-2009, 11:09 AM
That's funky looking. Creative but bad taste imo.

ixfxi
05-16-2009, 11:26 AM
im sure their product is good , everyone is just judging their promotion/demo car not looking very friendly and thier name choice isnt too great..

yeah but the irony here is that their demo car is a demo of their product. meaning, they're actually suggesting to have your intercooler piercing out of the front of the hood like a fuckin herpes outbreak.

like seriously, WHO THE FUCK would ever want to have this eyesore installed on their car? and for what, an assumed ~7% flow loss? fuck flow.

ericcastro
05-16-2009, 11:51 AM
yeah but the irony here is that their demo car is a demo of their product. meaning, they're actually suggesting to have your intercooler piercing out of the front of the hood like a fuckin herpes outbreak.

like seriously, WHO THE FUCK would ever want to have this eyesore installed on their car? and for what, an assumed ~7% flow loss? fuck flow.
...........................

Silverbullet
05-16-2009, 12:12 PM
So absolutely no one has thought of the fact that MAYBE this was to just show off the intercooler? There are numerous ways to mount an intercooler. Many of which are terrible of showing it on a car.

ericcastro
05-16-2009, 12:25 PM
So absolutely no one has thought of the fact that MAYBE this was to just show off the intercooler? There are numerous ways to mount an intercooler. Many of which are terrible of showing it on a car.
You haven't read anything apparently.

So you shouldn't post.

I guess I will spoon feed it to you so this post makes sense.
The whole point of there system is to allieveiate bends in the intercooler piping and make the shortest distance possable.

they have some percentage number made up about how much "flow" you loose per 90* bend.
And then make assumptions that 2 45* bends would react the same as a 90* bend.
and run there math this way.
Could be right, probably a little off.
Glad there not engineers making bridges.
"so if that holds loads of........, and thats like twice as big there, its good to hold double the load"

Oh wait, they are engineering car parts....................

driftmane666
05-16-2009, 12:32 PM
Yo he got some ill vids . da boy is doin his thag:snoop:

Suislide Drift (http://www.suislidedrift.com/odrey.htm)

that pic of the chick on the s13 in the splash page freaks me the FUCK OUT. Look at her hand! And.... lack of a right arm.

Support the war amps.

Where she at?? haaaha

allntrlundrgrnd
05-16-2009, 12:37 PM
oh my god that dude is retarded^

just watched the videos. jesus christ.

Silverbullet
05-16-2009, 02:22 PM
You haven't read anything apparently.

So you shouldn't post.

I guess I will spoon feed it to you so this post makes sense.
The whole point of there system is to allieveiate(sp) bends in the intercooler piping and make the shortest distance possable(sp).


I saw that. It dosn't mean you HAVE to run it that way. Its just simply another back door style intercooler. They just went really creative with their setup. Btw, you can't spell, so you shouldn't post.


they have some percentage number made up about how much "flow" you loose per 90* bend.
And then make assumptions that 2 45* bends would react the same as a 90* bend.
and run there math this way.
Could be right, probably a little off.


It is called head loss and that is the conventional method of calculating the head loss in a stead flow piping system in Bernoulli's equation, assuming all other attributes of the bend is consistent (radius, material, roughness). It is a matter of how exact you want to be. In F1, CFD analysis is done with their huge budgets to be as exact as possible in hundreds of different scenarios of different air density, temp, and different piping sizes that effect the velocity, pressure, and ultimately flow. For a bolt on intercooler setup for a drift car, none of that stuff really matters too much. It is more marketing than anything, but it does increase the flow slightly.


Glad there not engineers making bridges.
"so if that holds loads of........, and thats like twice as big there, its good to hold double the load"

Oh wait, they are engineering car parts....................


what exactly is wrong with their engineering? I see how the demo setup is extremely unattractive, but it is also extremely functional. Not to mention the amount of heat exchanging being done from being exposed in the air. In drifting, aero drag is not a concern, so the protruding IC does not hurt performance in any way.

Silverbullet
05-16-2009, 02:27 PM
if you like fucktons of drag and a huge obstruction to your vision.

Since when do drift cars ever pay attention to aero drag or the vision straight ahead of the car =)

ericcastro
05-16-2009, 03:18 PM
I saw that. It dosn't mean you HAVE to run it that way. Its just simply another back door style intercooler. They just went really creative with their setup. Btw, you can't spell, so you shouldn't post.
I think the whole point is to run it that way.
Or you might as well run some normal shit that doesn't look fucking retarded.



....... Bernoulli's equation, .....................

thanks, I was to lazy to look that shit up on wiki :)

I was actually more interested in space travel this morning. after watching starship troopers over donuts and fruit with my GF.
I was thinking about when the spaceship gets hit with the alien rocket/plasma.
The people in the ship fly around like it was a battle ship getting hit.
But theres no actually gravity.
Dont you need gravity to feel "G" forces pulling and tossing you around?
So wouldn't things act differently?
Or would the physics of 2 masses colliding have the same effect in a gravityless area?
Would the ships having there own gravity system play into this?
would the ships gravity keep them in there seats no problemo since they are in anti gravity??





what exactly is wrong with their engineering? I see how the demo setup is extremely unattractive, but it is also extremely functional. Not to mention the amount of heat exchanging being done from being exposed in the air. In drifting, aero drag is not a concern, so the protruding IC does not hurt performance in any way.
Drag does effect drifting.
Image is really important in drifting. (why do you think Formula D is going downhill and is filled with fanboys?)
Part of engineering is to keep shit looking decent.

we love race cars cause they look cool as shit and handle rad, right??





BTW, I spell like shit, so get used to it.
Everyone else has.

ericcastro
05-16-2009, 03:20 PM
BTW, I like this guy on the slurpieslide team,
RJ Nunley

the brother has like 4 or 5 babes in his team pic,

FUCK YA BRA!!!

reflexdb
05-16-2009, 03:42 PM
what exactly is wrong with their engineering? I see how the demo setup is extremely unattractive, but it is also extremely functional. Not to mention the amount of heat exchanging being done from being exposed in the air. In drifting, aero drag is not a concern, so the protruding IC does not hurt performance in any way.

Well, basically everything. I'm no aerodynamicist, but a nice pronounced wall perpendicular to the air stream creates a high pressure region in front of the wall. A liquid will always flow to the path of least resistance. I'm willing to bet that they actually decreased the efficiency of that system, rather than increasing it. They would be MUCH better off just using some simple ducting to that intercooler, even with all of the bends in the piping that's creating SO MUCH pressure loss for them.

Andrew Bohan
05-16-2009, 04:32 PM
right, almost all the air hitting that intercooler is temporarily stopping, and then going off the top and around the sides, instead of through it.


sure it's not getting heatsoaked but it's also not working as intended. they'd have better luck putting a heat sink there instead of an intercooler.

Oilcover
05-16-2009, 04:32 PM
good example of efficient/safe: tommy roberts' S13 mid-mount IC.

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Linhbergh%20Nguyen/Features/Tommy%20Roberts%20S13/IMG_0591.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/l20bdime/Picture173.jpg

not a lot of piping, but not a v-mount. I like this style. simple, effective.

Full-Lock
05-16-2009, 04:35 PM
that has to be a photoshop
no one is that stupid

BustedS13
05-16-2009, 04:44 PM
shit looks awsome!!! lmao

and poor S13TEDDY.
we tried to tell him the pipes dont work on S13's. But he's young.
He got rid of them along time ago.

those pipes don't work on fucking anything aside from a clown car.

driftmane666
05-16-2009, 06:11 PM
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/l20bdime/Picture173.jpg

not a lot of piping, but not a v-mount. I like this style. simple, effective.Yo guys are fooln Dat IC don't get no air it looks like to me bra. its totally hidden behinds the bumper cover. Mid mounts are weak sauce

FaLKoN240
05-16-2009, 07:37 PM
Yo guys are fooln Dat IC don't get no air it looks like to me bra. its totally hidden behinds the bumper cover. Mid mounts are weak sauce

I hope this post, and your vocabulary are a joke.

ixfxi
05-16-2009, 09:12 PM
Yo guys are fooln Dat IC don't get no air it looks like to me bra. its totally hidden behinds the bumper cover. Mid mounts are weak sauce

aye y0, wit no bumpa cova dat shit be gettn plnty of air son!!!

driftmane666
05-17-2009, 12:39 AM
aye y0, wit no bumpa cova dat shit be gettn plnty of air son!!!

haaha, yo for reals. If he is going around the street like real cats he ant taken the bumper off.

I know that astray joint is bugin but do it sounds and looks like its word. Comes whit a sweet az hood too.

The only factor is how much? I don't see a price yet on there webpage

Rapier46
05-17-2009, 12:46 AM
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/l20bdime/Picture173.jpg

not a lot of piping, but not a v-mount. I like this style. simple, effective.
who manufactures this ic? or something with similar sizing?

don_bagz
05-17-2009, 08:32 AM
do he is off da chain period. I dont think he care bout nothin :snoop:

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll138/SuislideDrift/Carlisle%202009/carlisle35.jpg

no wonder why he doesnt mind the obstruction of the view, he drives outside the car.. lol.. almost like ace ventura! hahaha! :naughtyd:

Antihero983
05-17-2009, 08:49 AM
i saw them at Nicofest....good lord that kid couldnt drive to save his life.

and yeah they were bragging about that setup and it was all i could do not to yell "YOUR SHIT IS FUCKING RETARDED.".

Z33dori
05-17-2009, 09:08 AM
Wade can def drive.... i mean he is no Tanner foust by any means..


but yea. The theory behind the design is good.. but that is just to fucking stupid looking for anyone to do it

Antihero983
05-17-2009, 09:15 AM
^um what?

he didnt hold one drift the whole time......he just kept spinning out.....

chigga311
05-17-2009, 09:21 AM
I have to give it to these guys for trying some thing different.
But.......
I have a couple of problems with their setup.
1- Air pressure on the face of the IC vs the Rear of the IC.
Everything tries to go the Path of Least Resistance, I.E. AROUND the IC and not THROUGH it.
2- The setup does cutout a WHOLE bunch of piping and bends etc....
But the point of doing so is to reduce the RESISTANCE and TURBULENCE in the system.
The Inlet and Outlet of that IC are pipes that go straight into a wall then disperse from there. Creating TURBULENCE and RESISTANCE from slamming into that wall.

If they choose to go forward with this product they need to:
1- Work on a pass through Cowl hood of some sort.
2- Work on the flow of those End Tanks

Not knocking those guys, because they were brave enough to lay down some cash, time and work into this endeavor.
But they did go in half cocked.

They need to refine this product and I'm sure all the Drift Fanboys will be all over it like a pile of JDM cool stickers.

captainfalco
05-17-2009, 09:27 AM
Wade is a nice enough guy, I've sold some stuff to him before. He can drive, but I don't know what he did out at that Nicofest deal. His car looks like hell now though with that whole intercooler deal, he might as well put his radiator up there too while he's at it.

Silverbullet
05-17-2009, 09:33 AM
1- Air pressure on the face of the IC vs the Rear of the IC.
Everything tries to go the Path of Least Resistance, I.E. AROUND the IC and not THROUGH it.


add side fences like on a spoiler!! lol

I think they may as well just do a traditional top mount.

Silverbullet
05-17-2009, 09:48 AM
Drag does effect drifting.
Image is really important in drifting. (why do you think Formula D is going downhill and is filled with fanboys?)
Part of engineering is to keep shit looking decent.


I stand correct. No drift teams are concerned about aerodynamic drag. On a Cup car or LeManns car, drag increases the lap times. In drifting... well, its a "show", not a race. For one, its hard to utilize aero advantages on a car that is only seeing yaw winds (over 10 degrees) similar to a car that is traveling sideways. I agree with your two following statements, but neither of which are premises to back your first statement though however, and have nothing to do with drag affecting drift performance.

kognition
05-17-2009, 10:05 AM
Put a scoop on the front and call it a day!
http://www.mybadpad.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/mullet1.jpg

Z33dori
05-17-2009, 10:45 AM
^um what?

he didnt hold one drift the whole time......he just kept spinning out.....

and your point... i've seen him at events before... he can drive... i'm just saying

spooled240
05-17-2009, 10:54 AM
they should've laid it down and put a hoodscoop aka suby style

slidewaysmn
05-17-2009, 11:16 AM
Or topmount....fek.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y120/didler002/img_0770.jpg

ixfxi
05-17-2009, 11:53 AM
haaha, yo for reals. If he is going around the street like real cats he ant taken the bumper off.

I know that astray joint is bugin but do it sounds and looks like its word. Comes whit a sweet az hood too.

The only factor is how much? I don't see a price yet on there webpage

mothafucka shud be goin top mount if he wants to make that shit slammin son

wordlife

HyperTek
05-17-2009, 02:37 PM
a good question, is would this guys ic setup pass tech inspections at real professional racing sanctions outside of drift?

ixfxi
05-17-2009, 02:43 PM
the funniest part about selling an intercooler setup like that, is the safety of having a fuckin front mount PROJECTILE mounted on the nose of your car. the radiator support is faaaaaaaar from strong, its just sheet metal.

imagine if he rear ends someone and the intercooler comes flying into the cabin of the car in front of him.. fucked.

ah yes, the tradeoff for that 7% flow increase

HyperTek
05-17-2009, 02:48 PM
car doesnt have headlights anyways, so the function of this car isnt to really be on any public roads.. who cares really.

i see a nico banner in the background
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll138/SuislideDrift/Carlisle%202009/carlisle35.jpg
so if its a more nico influenced area/company.. well they see and do things differently lmao

chigga311
05-17-2009, 03:16 PM
ah yes, the tradeoff for that 7% flow increase


There is NO FLOW INCREASE, its actually the opposite!!!!

ericcastro
05-18-2009, 12:09 AM
I stand correct. No drift teams are concerned about aerodynamic drag. On a Cup car or LeManns car, drag increases the lap times. In drifting... well, its a "show", not a race. For one, its hard to utilize aero advantages on a car that is only seeing yaw winds (over 10 degrees) similar to a car that is traveling sideways. I agree with your two following statements, but neither of which are premises to back your first statement though however, and have nothing to do with drag affecting drift performance.

Pro Drivers and even people at the amatuer level will tell you they feel the difference in all there shit at the higher speed drifts.

Me, Im SOHC KA, it makes no diff to my car, lol
Think my top speed drifts are close to 70mph if Im lucky and got a good tail wind downhill,lol

S14DB
05-18-2009, 10:37 AM
Yo he got some ill vids . da boy is doin his thag:snoop:

Suislide Drift (http://www.suislidedrift.com/odrey.htm)
What a douche in public.
I stand correct. No drift teams are concerned about aerodynamic drag. On a Cup car or LeManns car, drag increases the lap times. In drifting... well, its a "show", not a race. For one, its hard to utilize aero advantages on a car that is only seeing yaw winds (over 10 degrees) similar to a car that is traveling sideways. I agree with your two following statements, but neither of which are premises to back your first statement though however, and have nothing to do with drag affecting drift performance.

Drag or Downforce?

DALAZ_68
05-18-2009, 10:53 AM
I bet it's functional. Did anybody else notice that they made a Silvia hood work on the 180sx front?


yeah...its not hard...all u do is take off the pop up headlight assemblies and mount th esilvia hood on...

ericcastro
05-18-2009, 10:55 AM
^good call,
I have been speaking generally about both in the same catagory.


Either way.
Drift teams avoid DRAG.
And try not to look stupid.
You dont see cars on the track with the intercoolers sticking out the hood, a turbo popping up out the hood and the radiator mounted in front of a bumber.
And maybe an oil cooler sticking off the side of the passenger fender.

I mean shit.
The most direct point from A to B is a straight line.
So just run all the wires for the battery and tail lights on the outside of the car, reducing the amount of wire needed to go the the trunk, by about 7% in distance and wieght.

GTFO with this shit.

Its god damn fucking ugly.
At some point, there is a trade off for astetic over function.
you think pro race companies and sponsors want thier cars looking like shit?? (Nascar/F1/Rallye). Fuck no!!.






EDIT:
hey steve, good morning :)
you got in before my rant.
I just wish some of these people would come to meets and events, so i could shame them iin public and change their opinions through peer pressure and embaresment.

DALAZ_68
05-18-2009, 11:08 AM
EDIT:
hey steve, good morning :)
you got in before my rant.
I just wish some of these people would come to meets and events, so i could shame them iin public and change their opinions through peer pressure and embaresment.


awesome...i thought u were getting angry at me for pointing that silvia.180sx hood combo...lol

Shmex
05-18-2009, 11:11 AM
dude imma rock it and make the flow increase from a 7 to an 8. watch me do it. im also gonna drive outside my car, cuz Ace Ventura was my idol.

ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLRIIIIGHTY THEN!!!

ericcastro
05-18-2009, 11:16 AM
awesome...i thought u were getting angry at me for pointing that silvia.180sx hood combo...lol

lol, i noticed that too.

I think with little PIAA type lights, that hood combo could work on a really well thought out car.
maybe something with the white bunny kit.
look kinda like a RX7ish.
maybe not.

But it looks like ass cause the over fenders are a different color and the front bumper is fucked!
as well as the hood, lol.


you think if we just have a conversation on this thread it will peacefully go away and we will never have to see an asstray ic again??

Lets try....

so Im heading down to sidewayz performance today to do some maintenece and pic up some tires.
you workin steve??
watch the lakers last night??


we should get a beer and catch up sometime soon.

DALAZ_68
05-18-2009, 11:21 AM
lol, i noticed that too.

I think with little PIAA type lights, that hood combo could work on a really well thought out car.
maybe something with the white bunny kit.
look kinda like a RX7ish.
maybe not.

But it looks like ass cause the over fenders are a different color and the front bumper is fucked!
as well as the hood, lol.


you think if we just have a conversation on this thread it will peacefully go away and we will never have to see an asstray ic again??

Lets try....

so Im heading down to sidewayz performance today to do some maintenece and pic up some tires.
you workin steve??
watch the lakers last night??


we should get a beer and catch up sometime soon.
i think it be easier just fitting Z32 headlights on that bitch...yeah ud have to cut some here and there...but atleas u dont have to pay stupid money for properly working headlights...u just have to work on the angle for the lights to shine...


yeah im at work...been here since...5 ish...woke up early came in early, leaving late...i dont even watch sports bud, so i really dont know what up with the lakers...lol...beer sounds good...

Shmex
05-18-2009, 11:24 AM
i just wonder why so many people get there panties in a twist, not just on an internet forum, but in life. PERIOD.

If someone does that god forsaken thing to their car, so what. Are you driving it? didnt think so....

but this is the internet, and i forgot, everybody is right.

So youre right!

ace ventura, hes the man.

S14DB
05-18-2009, 12:45 PM
i just wonder why so many people get there panties in a twist, not just on an internet forum, but in life. PERIOD.

If someone does that god forsaken thing to their car, so what. Are you driving it? didnt think so....

but this is the internet, and i forgot, everybody is right.

So youre right!

ace ventura, hes the man.

Cause it makes us look bad in the eyes of others. "Look what those 240sx owners are doing now..."

murda-c
05-18-2009, 12:58 PM
Cause it makes us look bad in the eyes of others. "Look what those 240sx owners are doing now..."

Who are the others and why do you care so much about what they are saying?

S14DB
05-18-2009, 01:04 PM
Who are the others and why do you care so much about what they are saying?

Non-S chassis owners. Cause I have to deal with questions and comments from them.

ixfxi
05-18-2009, 01:10 PM
so i could shame them iin public and change their opinions through peer pressure and embaresment.

ah yes, i've been trying to do that with your ugly ass car for a while now....


no luck. :-)

DALAZ_68
05-18-2009, 01:13 PM
Who are the others and why do you care so much about what they are saying?
its not what is said, its mainly how us as s chassis owners are look upon ... god knowns i dont like being considered irrisponsible because im young...

driftmane666
05-18-2009, 05:14 PM
Cause it makes us look bad in the eyes of others. "Look what those 240sx owners are doing now..." Ya guys are bitches. I bet half of yall don't even have a nice car or a car at all. Ya just talk shit on everyone elses rides. I bet Wade's "ugly" s13 would woop on all ya asses. He can probably drift better than all ya too! haaha

Post ya pics/mods/vids up agaist Wade's beat 240sx.. His mods are listed on that suislide site, he's got vids, and pics.

I don't have shit, so I am not the talkin shit. Ya just bunch of computer punk btches haaaha :snoop:

whatcha got to show..

S14DB
05-18-2009, 06:31 PM
Ya guys are bitches. I bet half of yall don't even have a nice car or a car at all. Ya just talk shit on everyone elses rides. I bet Wade's "ugly" s13 would woop on all ya asses. He can probably drift better than all ya too! haaha

Post ya pics/mods/vids up agaist Wade's beat 240sx.. His mods are listed on that suislide site, he's got vids, and pics.

I don't have shit, so I am not the talkin shit. Ya just bunch of computer punk btches haaaha :snoop:

whatcha got to show..
Why you sack riding him so hard?

driftmane666
05-18-2009, 06:43 PM
Why you sack riding him so hard?

Because I'm the only one helpn da boy out. He probly dont know people are talkn shit on him, and the peoples talkn shit aint got shit.

Thats why I want to see what peoples got. Thats why i'm saying his broken ass bumper asstray car can whop on anyones here.

Post it up or shut it up. :bigok:

Haaaha!

ThatGuy
05-18-2009, 06:48 PM
Can you even speak English?

Does he know he has an illiterate idiot "helpn him out"?

Oh he drifts? Well, good for him. Does drifting give everyone permission to bastardize their cars with ridiculously ugly modifications?


Oh wait... Boso pipes, glitter vinyl, thousands of zipties holding body panels together...

Yeah, this guy is right on par with the drift community. Forget I said anything. No wonder I hate drifting.

mrflip69
05-18-2009, 07:31 PM
Awesome. Thank you! LOL

It's like... intercooler sticking out the hood? Now you've just crossed the line! (Says the guy with boso pipes and glitter vinyl)

I'd rock Boso style as a joke, but so many people here do it to follow trends... blah. If you genuinely like it, then whatever.

FaLKoN240
05-18-2009, 07:49 PM
If he didn't build such an ugly product then we really wouldn't have anything to say would we?

Just because the presentation of the product and design is "different" doesn't make it better.

It does however do what it was made to do, capture our eye and make people notice.

Unfortunately it does so in a poor and negative way.

A lot of the people talking shit do have nice carst to show and back up their shit talking.

Just look in the pic thread.

I can see it now, when people in other car forums are dissing on S chassis they're gonna make a motivational with that stupid looking IC; saying something smart ass about drifting or Nissan owners and how retarded we are.

ixfxi
05-18-2009, 11:41 PM
Why you sack riding him so hard?

Can you even speak English?

Does he know he has an illiterate idiot "helpn him out"?

Oh he drifts? Well, good for him. Does drifting give everyone permission to bastardize their cars with ridiculously ugly modifications?


Oh wait... Boso pipes, glitter vinyl, thousands of zipties holding body panels together...

Yeah, this guy is right on par with the drift community. Forget I said anything. No wonder I hate drifting.

ahjahahahhaaha


you guys did a double fatality on this guy, and he doesnt even have a fuckin car.


speaking of glitter and zip ties, eric.. post a pic of your car. represent zilvia's shittier cars for us! :-) :-)

ericcastro
05-19-2009, 12:18 AM
ah yes, i've been trying to do that with your ugly ass car for a while now....


no luck. :-)

lmao!!

fuck off :fawk:
Still love ya and appriciate your input and knowledge on the site:bigok:

Ya guys are bitches. I bet half of yall don't even have a nice car or a car at all. Ya just talk shit on everyone elses rides. I bet Wade's "ugly" s13 would woop on all ya asses. He can probably drift better than all ya too! haaha

Post ya pics/mods/vids up agaist Wade's beat 240sx.. His mods are listed on that suislide site, he's got vids, and pics.

I don't have shit, so I am not the talkin shit. Ya just bunch of computer punk btches haaaha :snoop:

whatcha got to show..

Because I'm the only one helpn da boy out. He probly dont know people are talkn shit on him, and the peoples talkn shit aint got shit.

Thats why I want to see what peoples got. Thats why i'm saying his broken ass bumper asstray car can whop on anyones here.

Post it up or shut it up. :bigok:

Haaaha!

Man, i hope you stop trying to help him out.
You are representing him now and talking on his behalf.
And you are making him look like a fucking retarded ass.

So stop, and let us share our opinion of his car.
Cause its a fucking car forum.
And let us meet the guy ourselves and be able to form our own opinions and friendships with the dude.

Don't dig a hole for someone else to have to climb out of.


Oh wait... , glitter vinyl, thousands of zipties holding body panels together...

Yeah, this guy is right on par with the drift community. Forget I said anything. No wonder I hate drifting.

No Barry, even I have standards, :rofl:


It's like... intercooler sticking out the hood? Now you've just crossed the line! (Says the guy with boso pipes and glitter vinyl)
.
i dont have Boso pipes??
And teddy doesnt have glitter vinyl.....

And yes, that shit does cross a line.
i think the biggest ricer see's this and knows a lines been crossed
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i147/all4amd/1-70-21102-l-YjEqWmpu5YPkEJssKG0gmQ.jpg


I can see it now, when people in other car forums are dissing on S chassis they're gonna make a motivational with that stupid looking IC; saying something smart ass about drifting or Nissan owners and how retarded we are.

yup.


speaking of glitter and zip ties, eric.. post a pic of your car. represent zilvia's shittier cars for us! :-) :-)

but head, lol


once upon a time
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/240sx0003-1.jpg

then
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/IMG_7436.jpg

more track time
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/240now.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/th_MVI_7428.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/?action=view&current=MVI_7428.flv)

BTW, you might not care, but this is a stock SOHC on springs and shocks with a welded diff connecting HTM.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/th_MVI_7433.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/?action=view&current=MVI_7433.flv)

Everyones Favorite.
Numerous Haybails and cones over a year as well as speed bumps, driveways and telephone poles.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/Bodykit.jpg

End of an Era
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/dirtycar000048.jpg

New body kits all around
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/castrodec626.jpg

Shit started happening again
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/LA004347.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/0e529d22.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/5b12d0fb.jpg

My car a couple weeks ago.

YouTube - Eric castro drifting. s13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLW9fRGeA1k)

BTW, the front fenders have been re-fiberglassed 3 times and the bumper has been repaired with fiberglass 3 times.
So the vinyl is doing its job.
Might not be the best, but I don't daily a ziptied mess around anymore and the cars color is uniform.


Now leave me alone :wan:


:lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd:: lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd:

Oilcover
05-19-2009, 01:38 AM
i'm going to make a hoodercooler.

the hood will BE the intercooler. BOOYA

Nezahualcoyotl
05-19-2009, 02:22 AM
Ya guys are bitches. I bet half of yall don't even have a nice car or a car at all. Ya just talk shit on everyone elses rides. I bet Wade's "ugly" s13 would woop on all ya asses. He can probably drift better than all ya too! haaha

Post ya pics/mods/vids up agaist Wade's beat 240sx.. His mods are listed on that suislide site, he's got vids, and pics.

I don't have shit, so I am not the talkin shit. Ya just bunch of computer punk btches haaaha :snoop:

whatcha got to show..

i hate reading your post it gives me a head ache

ericcastro: i like your vids it makes me wanna go to a track day

chigga311
05-19-2009, 11:13 AM
They have the right to bash him.
Just like you have the right to ignore them.
Who are they????
NOBODY to you, so ignore them.

But me personally I think alot of these guys talk too much shyt.
Not my business or my style.

Its funny how you guys talk about how other people are gonna look at S chassis etc....
You guys shouldn't give a shyt.
When you start paying this guys payments/insurance then you can have input to this guy

Again his car is not my style.
I'd stab myself before I bought his car.
But once some japanese guy starts rockin it, all the JDM fanboys will drop to their knees for Astray IC's. LOL

I'm surprised the Astray guy hasn't showed up???

DALAZ_68
05-19-2009, 11:39 AM
Ya guys are bitches. I bet half of yall don't even have a nice car or a car at all. Ya just talk shit on everyone elses rides. I bet Wade's "ugly" s13 would woop on all ya asses. He can probably drift better than all ya too! haaha

Post ya pics/mods/vids up agaist Wade's beat 240sx.. His mods are listed on that suislide site, he's got vids, and pics.

I don't have shit, so I am not the talkin shit. Ya just bunch of computer punk btches haaaha :snoop:

whatcha got to show..

its not our fault ur ''BoI" couldnt afford the proper amount of pipping...

ixfxi
05-19-2009, 11:44 AM
eric eric eric..... showing videos of that baby go kart track?


you want to drift, you come with me on mulholland.. that way when you fuckup, you fly into a rich persons house... or better yet, off the cliff. :-)


your car makes me cringe, its worse than ThatGuys camo-colored car.

allntrlundrgrnd
05-19-2009, 11:50 AM
Thats why i'm saying his broken ass bumper asstray car can whop on anyones here.
Haaaha!

While this guys posts were generally amusing, 'asstray' specifically made me lol.

Andrew @ 240sxMotoring
05-19-2009, 12:41 PM
YouTube - 2009 Carlisle 240SX and Truck Tandem Drifting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeALiS6iZtE)

ericcastro
05-19-2009, 01:26 PM
eric eric eric..... showing videos of that baby go kart track?


you want to drift, you come with me on mulholland.. that way when you fuckup, you fly into a rich persons house... or better yet, off the cliff. :-)


your car makes me cringe, its worse than ThatGuys camo-colored car.

i dont have any videos, lol.
Came across that clip.
Think that was my first run on that track.
not to bad imo.
Especially pushing 225's with a SOHC.

Mulholland is way to ruff. you will break some shit, or at least the side of it by my house.

you can keep hating my car.

but for everyperson that hates, I get 20 compliments on the street and track.
stopped getting tickets, and now get thumbs ups from the cops :)

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i147/all4amd/1-70-21102-l-YjEqWmpu5YPkEJssKG0gmQ.jpg

ThatGuy
05-19-2009, 01:33 PM
its worse than ThatGuys camo-colored car.

Hey, at least it will have some nice lights, right?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

ericcastro
05-19-2009, 01:34 PM
Nice video.

Asstray looks like it blocks his vision.

He does long HP manjis that anyone can do.

the truck??

Car breaks down??



why not just run an oil cooler or something else that motorsports have been doing for, like ,..ever??

the wheel is a circle, dont try and reinvent it to a triangle.
maybe just get a Efan with more CFM's??
get a vent slotted hood.


idk,
its so hideous you cant say anything good about it.
just gotta say again, its the same as this imo

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i147/all4amd/1-70-21102-l-YjEqWmpu5YPkEJssKG0gmQ.jpg

ericcastro
05-19-2009, 01:35 PM
i think every reply should now have this picture.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i147/all4amd/1-70-21102-l-YjEqWmpu5YPkEJssKG0gmQ.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i147/all4amd/1-70-21102-l-YjEqWmpu5YPkEJssKG0gmQ.jpg

S14DB
05-19-2009, 02:30 PM
Nice video.

Asstray looks like it blocks his vision.

He does long HP manjis that anyone can do.

the truck??

Car breaks down??

In a parking lot of a NOPI refugee camp...

The truck needs some more power. Looks like he put big wheels and jacked it up and has nothing to back it up.

ixfxi
05-19-2009, 04:18 PM
Mulholland is way to ruff. you will break some shit, or at least the side of it by my house.

you can keep hating my car.

but for everyperson that hates, I get 20 compliments on the street and track.
stopped getting tickets, and now get thumbs ups from the cops :)

people that say mulholland is too rough are people who run shit for suspension. if your car cant handle city streets, then your car shouldnt be on city streets.

i mean what porsche owner says "im sorry, im not going to race because these streets are too rough" - thats the whole fucking purpose of having a suspension, you know... shocks, springs, bushings, etc... if you run everything solid, then the car is completely useless on the street, its like driving a fucking train.

anyway, i like beating my car on the streets.. its the only place that is real. tracks are great and i enjoyed tracking my car, but i enjoy the street more.

ericcastro
05-19-2009, 05:38 PM
people that say mulholland is too rough are people who run shit for suspension. if your car cant handle city streets, then your car shouldnt be on city streets.

i mean what porsche owner says "im sorry, im not going to race because these streets are too rough" - thats the whole fucking purpose of having a suspension, you know... shocks, springs, bushings, etc... if you run everything solid, then the car is completely useless on the street, its like driving a fucking train.

anyway, i like beating my car on the streets.. its the only place that is real. tracks are great and i enjoyed tracking my car, but i enjoy the street more.

But drifting on surface like mulholland is WAY different then gripping it.

You will break and bend stuff sliding up there. Cars suspension isnt really built for the kind of pressure trying to slide a tire and rim sideways over rough terrain puts on it.

Its not like dirt dropping. Hitting gnarly potholes and bumps sideways is like hitting your rim with a sledge and thinking the suspension wont get messed up.

Im not stiff either, I got RSR springs on KYB. :)

zaquanh
05-19-2009, 05:50 PM
edit

this thread is stupid

ixfxi
05-19-2009, 10:13 PM
But drifting on surface like mulholland is WAY different then gripping it.

You will break and bend stuff sliding up there. Cars suspension isnt really built for the kind of pressure trying to slide a tire and rim sideways over rough terrain puts on it.

Its not like dirt dropping. Hitting gnarly potholes and bumps sideways is like hitting your rim with a sledge and thinking the suspension wont get messed up.

Im not stiff either, I got RSR springs on KYB. :)

gotta have a lill bit of side-wall, not some stretched piece of shit tire. i never broke a thing but hey, all depends...

91tofordee
05-19-2009, 10:51 PM
honestly the intercoolers don't look that bad and eric your a hardass.

ericcastro
05-20-2009, 09:28 AM
honestly the intercoolers don't look that bad and eric your a hardass.
the intercooler looks tarded,
And im prolly more of a prick or asshole I heard.

IDK, Im just stating my opinion on things and not holding any hands.

DALAZ_68
05-20-2009, 10:12 AM
people that say mulholland is too rough are people who run shit for suspension. if your car cant handle city streets, then your car shouldnt be on city streets.

i mean what porsche owner says "im sorry, im not going to race because these streets are too rough" - thats the whole fucking purpose of having a suspension, you know... shocks, springs, bushings, etc... if you run everything solid, then the car is completely useless on the street, its like driving a fucking train.

anyway, i like beating my car on the streets.. its the only place that is real. tracks are great and i enjoyed tracking my car, but i enjoy the street more.

and the day we have ur obituary page on this forum ill laugh...

honestly the intercoolers don't look that bad and eric your a hardass.

the intercooler looks ok, the positioning of it is total shit and stupid


im prolly more of a prick or asshole I heard.



id say a hit of prick and sarcastic ass, with a hint of humbleness... :wan:

xs240
05-20-2009, 10:31 AM
lmao!!

fuck off :fawk:
Still love ya and appriciate your input and knowledge on the site:bigok:





Man, i hope you stop trying to help him out.
You are representing him now and talking on his behalf.
And you are making him look like a fucking retarded ass.

So stop, and let us share our opinion of his car.
Cause its a fucking car forum.
And let us meet the guy ourselves and be able to form our own opinions and friendships with the dude.

Don't dig a hole for someone else to have to climb out of.



No Barry, even I have standards, :rofl:


i dont have Boso pipes??
And teddy doesnt have glitter vinyl.....

And yes, that shit does cross a line.
i think the biggest ricer see's this and knows a lines been crossed
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i147/all4amd/1-70-21102-l-YjEqWmpu5YPkEJssKG0gmQ.jpg



yup.



but head, lol


once upon a time
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/240sx0003-1.jpg

then
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/IMG_7436.jpg

more track time
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/240now.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/th_MVI_7428.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/?action=view&current=MVI_7428.flv)

BTW, you might not care, but this is a stock SOHC on springs and shocks with a welded diff connecting HTM.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/th_MVI_7433.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/?action=view&current=MVI_7433.flv)

Everyones Favorite.
Numerous Haybails and cones over a year as well as speed bumps, driveways and telephone poles.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/Bodykit.jpg

End of an Era
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/dirtycar000048.jpg

New body kits all around
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/castrodec626.jpg

Shit started happening again
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/LA004347.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/0e529d22.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/5b12d0fb.jpg

My car a couple weeks ago.

YouTube - Eric castro drifting. s13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLW9fRGeA1k)

BTW, the front fenders have been re-fiberglassed 3 times and the bumper has been repaired with fiberglass 3 times.
So the vinyl is doing its job.
Might not be the best, but I don't daily a ziptied mess around anymore and the cars color is uniform.


Now leave me alone :wan:


:lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd:: lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd:

ur a rapist

I laughed my ass off when u went from this:

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/240sx0003-1.jpg

To the junk the car became.

Is that laguna seca bmw blue?

ericcastro
05-20-2009, 11:39 AM
Voodoo Blue off of the 06 FJcruiser (toyota)

Oilcover
05-21-2009, 10:26 AM
i love eric. nice guy IRL, drives his ass off, and hates most of zilvia. what's not to like?

boy this thread exploded. i created a monster!

DALAZ_68
05-22-2009, 12:27 AM
Voodoo Blue off of the 06 FJcruiser (toyota)

eric and me are boys...worked on his car and mine together...drank together...saved teddys bday witht he third beerrun of the night together...bromance maybe :fruit: