Drag Strip Setup; S13/S14

[khmerpimpin]

Hello, I'm always looking to optimize my times at the track so if you guys would like to share some good information please post up your setups

1. Car:
2. Weight:
3. Rim Sizes:
4. Tires [slicks, dr, street] :
5. 60 ft' :
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed:
7. Estimated whp:
8. Notes; motor type [turbo], lsd, suspension, launch rpm, etc.


I have a s14 sr'd s13 hatchback that I'm building as a dd/track car, and I'm looking for others with a similar setup so I can figure which direction to go with my car.

1. Car: S13 Hatchback
2. Weight: 2700ish
3. Rim Sizes: 18x9f 18x10r
4. Tires [slicks, dr, street] : Falken Azenis rt615 245/40/18 275/35/18
5. 60 ft' : n/a
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed: n/a
7. Estimated whp: 340@15lbs [estimated]
8. Notes; zenki s14 Blacktop gt3071r.

Id like to go with a 18x10.5 or 11 rear with 315's in the future, I also need a lsd or weld my open diff. I'm hoping for mid to low 12's on street tires.

[Team DET]

what suspension setup you thinking of using

[S14klares]

1. Car: S13 coupe
2. Weight: 2600ish
3. Rim Sizes: 15x7 +30
4. Tires [slicks, dr, street] :street 195 50 15 50 dollar used tires
5. 60 ft' : 2.2
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed: 13.19
7. Estimated whp: 230@7psi t25
8. Notes; s13 redtop t25 7psi fmic 3" tbe intake welded diff

[Ali 556]

OP,

you don't need 18x9 front for a drag setup.....look for skiness like 16x4 or 16x 5 and run 189-195 front tire...

also run some WELD racing rims...somthing like 15x10.5 and run FULL slick...stay away from DR,street carp...

for coilovers run HKS Drag coilovers With FULL soft rear and stiff front...you have IRS rear end so you will get ton of wheel hop if you don't do it right...

Check Supraforums.com and go to the drag racing section then copy-paste there setup's and change accordingly to you'r car...

some guys might not like this.....:hahano:

Ali

[Flicktitty]

also run some WELD racing rims...somthing like 15x10.5 and run FULL slick...stay away from DR,street carp...



What? :tweak:

Why is there a NEED to run a FULL SLICK? I highly doubt the car will need it.

I know people going into the 8's-9's on DRAG RADIALS.
not much need for a full slick there.

M/t ET Street/Radial is where it's at

[Ali 556]

ok,

And OP rember to shave some weight of the car....IIRC a 19xx lbs civic with only 53x fwhp ran 9.6x @ 145....

Regards,

Ali

[Automato]

This is not necessarily a drag setup, but its my street/dd setup that I used on the track as well. Should give you a ball park of where you'll end up if you get in a clean run. I think that you can pull off low 12's high 11's with street tires.

1. Car: s13
2. Weight: n/a
3. Rim Sizes: g35 coupe, 18x8 all around
4. Tires [slicks, dr, street] : BFG Gforce Sports (street tires) 245/40/18 255/35/18
5. 60 ft' : 1.93
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed: 12.708 @ 109.8 mph
7. Estimated whp: 277whp/269wtq
8. Notes; motor type [turbo], lsd, suspension, launch rpm, etc.: Redtop Sr20det, stock T25 @ 15psi, Kaaz 2-way lsd, Tein spring/KYB AGX, 5k-5.5k rpm preloaded launch.

[VQMaxFan]

Not much input on my end but i really haven't done much to the car yet. Nor taken it to the 1/4, but took it to the 1/8 mile a few times now.

But i have found a 4k slip the best launch for me in my s14, i cut 2.0 60' w/ stock wheels and tire size(33psi) w/ a welded rear end, stock suspension, SR w/ fmic and 2871r@ 7psi.

My friend cuts 1.9 60' w/ open diff, stock tires (33psi), eibach on stock struts, in his s13 hatch, SR, slipping the clutch at 4k also.

[KA-T_240]

What? :tweak:

Why is there a NEED to run a FULL SLICK? I highly doubt the car will need it.

I know people going into the 8's-9's on DRAG RADIALS.
not much need for a full slick there.

M/t ET Street/Radial is where it's at


The reason reason you see 8/9 second cars on drag radials is cause they are fully built drag cars with custom everything that make them do the 1/4 really fast. Also, solid axel vs. IRS makes a difference.

How many 8 second supras are on drag radials?

Personally, I have 275 MT ET streets(drag radials) They hook much better then my RT615. But, they still leave more to be desired. Granted with more track time and suspension setup I am sure that I can get more out of them(like a nasty burn out). My next drag tires are going to be a slick.

[KA-T_240]

1. Car: 1990 240sx(originally SOHC auto_
2. Weight:unknown but lighter then stock
3. Rim Sizes: 17x9 5-zigen FN's up front with 235/40/17 RT615, 15x8 Weld Draglite(4-lug) 4.5inch back space
4. Tires [slicks, dr, street] : 275/50/15 MT ET Stree
5. 60 ft' :(best)1.86
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed: Best ET: 12.56(drag radials) 12.79(rt615) Best MPH: 113.4(drag radials) 117.4(RT615)
7. Estimated whp: around 400
8. Notes: KA24DE, 9:0 compression, .40 over, stock head. stock VLSD, stock rear struts
GT32@17psi.
85 deg. F.
First time on drag radials

[Jmac39]

1. 93 240 blacktop sr20det
2. 2440
3. teardrop rear and tenzo 17 fronts
4. mt 26x8.50 slicks rear/ 205 all season up front
5. 1.59 best
6. 11.17 @ 123
7. 400+-
8. gt2871r 86ar 17psi, 264's bc, welded rear, jic sus, etc.

[ATLspeed]

Same motor....

KA24DE - (All Motor)

1. Car: 91 240sx (s13 Base model)
2. Weight: n/a
3. Rim Sizes: 180sx spokes 15x6
4. Tires: Fronts - 185/60/15, Rear - 195/60/15
5. 60 ft' : 2.313
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed: 14.837 @ 95.29 mph
7. Estimated whp: (i honestly wish i knew)
8. Notes: KA24DE - ALL MOTOR 82,xxx miles, I/H/E, Welded Diff, ACT 3 Clutch, 248/248 cam swap, GREAT driving skills.....

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/183839-14-83-na-ka24de-track.html

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KA24DE-T (Turboed)

1. Car: 91 240sx (s13 Base model)
2. Weight: n/a
3. Rim Sizes: 180sx spokes 15x6, Probe GT 5-Star 16x7
4. Tires: Fronts - 185/60/15, Rear - Riken Raptors 225/55/16
5. 60 ft' : 2.047
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed: 13.172 @ 106.99 (SR-T25 @ 7psi)
7. Estimated whp: (i honestly wish i knew, again lol)
8. Notes: KA24DE-T, 89,xxx miles, T25 (7psi), SMIC, Welded Diff, ACT 3 Clutch, 248/248 cam swap, GREAT driving skills......

http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=37366&start=0

[Ali 556]

lol,

supra - 6spd (stock V160) - STOCK rear end -

YouTube - 8.378@173 on 12.7.08.mpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gi9khaEbSY)

YouTube - 8.37Pass.mov (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-jTcIzX_cI)

granted it's a supra with 1300+whp engine...but it's the same idea...(IRS-Stick shift-and havey as fuck cars)

^^ Street supra weight 3550-3650 LBS

Ali

[Koopa Troopa]

Run stock suspension in the rear, Nitto 555R drag tires, with like 10psi in the tire. You don't need alot of tire as it's better to spin the tires on the launch than it is to hook and break your transmission.

[whereda40at]

Run stock suspension in the rear, Nitto 555R drag tires, with like 10psi in the tire. You don't need alot of tire as it's better to spin the tires on the launch than it is to hook and break your transmission.
im about to go to my stock suspension soon. i have tein he coilovers. i run nitto 555r on my car now. they hook good. but you really have to drop the psi like you said to 10 but still great tires for the money.

1. Car:90' 240 hatch
2. Weight: gutted everything except for 2 seats, carpet and dash
3. Rim Sizes: skinny's in the front, 275/50/15 welds in the rear
4. Tires [slicks, dr, street] : nitto 555r at 14 psi
5. 60 ft' : 1.82
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed: 12.02 @ 118 mph
7. Estimated whp: 400whp
8. Notes; sr20, 2.35 brian crower stroker, g-force t-5 dog box, 1.5 way carbon lsd, no 2 step or launch controll, manual boost controller and launched on redline. and a gt2876r .86 turbo @ 17 psi (for now :D)

[1QUICK4]

What? :tweak:

Why is there a NEED to run a FULL SLICK? I highly doubt the car will need it.



You're serious? I run full wrinkle MT slicks, and I've ran MT Drag Radials. I've pulled 1.6 60 foots with slicks and best on drag radials was 1.8.

I guess I'm trying to figure out why slicks aren't needed, anything for traction and a better 60 foot is better.

[Flicktitty]

The reason reason you see 8/9 second cars on drag radials is cause they are fully built drag cars with custom everything that make them do the 1/4 really fast. Also, solid axel vs. IRS makes a difference.

How many 8 second supras are on drag radials?

Personally, I have 275 MT ET streets(drag radials) They hook much better then my RT615. But, they still leave more to be desired. Granted with more track time and suspension setup I am sure that I can get more out of them(like a nasty burn out). My next drag tires are going to be a slick.

More then You would think,

as an active SupraForums member since 2005 i have seen more 8 sec supra's on a D/r then i can shake a stick at.

I'm not trying to come off as an asshole, but Drag racing is my preferance so i happen to get more into the drag scene then the drifting scene.

But what ever man, If you think D/R don't work go talk to the people who are going 7's-8's @ 200+MPH on a DRAG RADIAL and tell them that they don't work.

Drag radials NEED a big nasty burnout to really get the tires hookin, thats where alot of people forget. I see alot of people just drive up to a line and launch expecting there car too hook. there is alot more to a 60ft then the tires.

[khmerpimpin]

This is not necessarily a drag setup, but its my street/dd setup that I used on the track as well. Should give you a ball park of where you'll end up if you get in a clean run. I think that you can pull off low 12's high 11's with street tires.

1. Car: s13
2. Weight: n/a
3. Rim Sizes: g35 coupe, 18x8 all around
4. Tires [slicks, dr, street] : BFG Gforce Sports (street tires) 245/40/18 255/35/18
5. 60 ft' : 1.93
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed: 12.708 @ 109.8 mph
7. Estimated whp: 277whp/269wtq
8. Notes; motor type [turbo], lsd, suspension, launch rpm, etc.: Redtop Sr20det, stock T25 @ 15psi, Kaaz 2-way lsd, Tein spring/KYB AGX, 5k-5.5k rpm preloaded launch.

wow thats a nice time on regular tires, my car isn't a 'drag strip' car, but I'm looking for a street setup that I can just take to the track and hit low numbers if you guys understand my blabber. lol. I only goto the track maybe 3-4 times a year, and I'm looking to make changes before the start of next season.

[khmerpimpin]

what suspension setup you thinking of using
I have some lowering springs that came with the car when I originally bought it, I'm planning to finish up the motor work first cause that what matters more to me. my build order motor>lsd>suspension>looks.

Also I have gutted much of the rear and removed the a/c system along with other misc parts, but I drive around w/ a huge sub woofer box [go figure] but it is easily removable when I'm at the track, I figure theres about 150lbs I could easily shed off the car before I went to the track.

As far as wheels go I do not have the funds to necessarily have a set of wheels for the track, maybe I'll invest in some rears in the future for this [safety] purpose. I want to run something thats good for the street, and the track [granted I know tires can cost a lot]

[khmerpimpin]

1. Car: S13 coupe
2. Weight: 2600ish
3. Rim Sizes: 15x7 +30
4. Tires [slicks, dr, street] :street 195 50 15 50 dollar used tires
5. 60 ft' : 2.2
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed: 13.19
7. Estimated whp: 230@7psi t25
8. Notes; s13 redtop t25 7psi fmic 3" tbe intake welded diff

230whp on 7psi t25? do you have a dyno to go with that? I think the stock t28 turbo would take around 12psi to make that kind of power

[s13dan]

i see a lot of ppl running RT615's for drag racing.. This makes no sense to me, unless you just wanted to see what your car would do. IF your planning on drag racing only, tires like the RT's are not choice, they have extremly hard sidewalls.Drag tires have soft sidewalls to optimize strait line traction.
not to break the rules
1:hatchback
2:2600lbs
3:17x7
4: DR very abused nitto 555's
5: 1.9
6:13.7@100
7:200???t25 stock psi
8: this was my old setup- stock redtop. FMIC and 3in exhaust.

[SuperiorS14]

ill be building a dd/track S13 fastback for 2009 just trying to get an approx. ETA for the. thanks guys here is what i have so far and what will be on the car

1. Car: S13 fastback
2. Weight: unknown
3. Rim Sizes: Weld draglites f 15x4 r 15x10
4. Tires [slicks, dr, street] : MT ET street 26x11.5x15
5. 60 ft' : na
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed:na
7. Estimated whp: motor previously made 406whp
8. Notes; motor type [turbo], lsd, suspension, launch rpm, etc.
S13 redtop cams, gt30, power fc, nismo diff, stock suspension in rear, no sways...etc

[Oneoverwrx]

over a year and back from the dead...Sorry guys but i need info on backspacing on a drag wheel. I have a set lined up that are 15x4 fronts and 15x8 rears. The rears have a 4.5'' bs so they are basically 0 offset. Pretty sure they will work good but not positive.

Basically need back space info, the car is an s14 5 lug. Has coilovers. Pics too if possible.

Thanks in advance

[krysknowles]

1. Car: s13 180sx rhd
2. Weight: not sure
3. Rim Sizes: 17x9.5 mb battle
4. Tires [slicks, dr, street] : mickey thompson et street 26/10.5/16 (jdm supra wheels)
5. 60 ft' : 1.6
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed: 7.1 in the 1/8mile
7. Estimated whp: 483whp
8. Notes; motor type [turbo], lsd, suspension, launch rpm, etc.
stock motor with hks 264 cams, isis int mani, pte billet 5857, 740cc aem ems, custom tubular mani, bosch 044, comp twin disk, hks coilovers, lsd

[whereda40at]

1. Car: 1990 s13 hatch
2. Weight: 2550 lbs with driver
3. Rim Sizes: 15X5 and 15X9
4. Tires [slicks, dr, street] : 195/60/15r 275/65/15r m/t e/t streets
5. 60 ft' : 1.56
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed: 11.2 @ 121 mph
7. Estimated whp: 380whp/ 385tq
8. Notes; sr20 stroked and bored to 2.35, ported head, kelford step 3 cams, gt2876r @ 18psi, launch at 4900rpm, 1.5 way carbonetics lsd, 300zx trans, stock susp., 101 degress outside

[khmerpimpin]

1. Car: 1990 s13 hatch
2. Weight: 2550 lbs with driver
3. Rim Sizes: 15X5 and 15X9
4. Tires [slicks, dr, street] : 195/60/15r 275/65/15r m/t e/t streets
5. 60 ft' : 1.56
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed: 11.2 @ 121 mph
7. Estimated whp: 380whp/ 385tq
8. Notes; sr20 stroked and bored to 2.35, ported head, kelford step 3 cams, gt2876r @ 18psi, launch at 4900rpm, 1.5 way carbonetics lsd, 300zx trans, stock susp., 101 degress outside

you're bumping an old thread, but nice setup/times.

[Quicksilver_s13]

1. Car: 96 240sx
2. Weight: 2650
3. Rim Sizes: Work Emotion CR Kai 235/40/17f 255/40/18r
4. Tires [slicks, dr, street] : street tires all the way around
5. 60 ft' :2.35
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed:12.4@121mph
7. Estimated whp:446hp
8. Notes; s13 sr20 with hx35w@22psi

[TFD]

Bump!

1. Car: 1990 S13 hatch
2. Weight: 2575 (Car)
3. Rim Sizes: F17x8, R17x9 Rota Torque
4. Tires [slicks, dr, street] : 255/40/17 Toyo R888 semi's (rear)
5. 60 ft' :2.048
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed:12.71@107mph
7. Estimated whp: ?
8. Notes; S14 SR20DET/2871/z32/740cc/3" etc.

[rb25_s13*CHUKI]

1. Car: 1990 S13 hatch
2. Weight: 2280 (car and driver)
3. Rim Sizes: 16" front skinnys 16x10 welds
4.Tires: FULL hoosier SLICK 285/50/16 (metric equivalent )
5. 60 ft' : T.B.D LOOKIN FOR 1.6-1.9
6. 1/4 mile & trap speed: T.B.D SHOOTING FOR (mid-low 10's high 9's)
7. Estimated whp: 500+whp - 600whp
8.SR20VET -VVL head-mazworx conversion kit-GSP Gt-35r-N1 sr16ve cams-ARP gear-Apexi 1.1mm-custom intake manifold - peakboost turbo mani- Single 44mm tial wstgate- WELDED J30 diff-J30 AXELS- Dss driveshaft- Z32 tranny - exedy twin plate- 3.5" exhaust piping.

All in the works, might decide to ditch the vvl head setup due to pricing and funds. Sr20 might be for sale within the next couple of weeks cause I might decide to build my Ka I've been holding off instead

[jr_ss]

Why did you even bump the thread if you have no times to contribute? What a waste.

[Ahmed165]

what suspension setup you thinking of usinghttp://www.aahdating.com/am.jpg

[rb25_s13*CHUKI]

Why did you even bump the thread if you have no times to contribute? What a waste.

Setting everything up so all i gotta do is add the times,

[rb25_s13*CHUKI]

what suspension setup you thinking of usinghttp://www.aahdating.com/am.jpg

That's one of the things I'm looking into every other day haha, Just tryna finish up the chassis first It's almost done, I'll post a couple pics in a few days when product is finished!

Also gonna finish up this Ka I have in my yard, probly gonna sell the sr and just finish up the ka. I have most of the ka parts ready to go from a while back, Just need to pick up a set of Je pistons 9.1 compression stock bore, then my rebuild parts list is compete short of the bc fully counter weighted crank which I'd like to have building this ka but its about the same price as doing a vvl head on the sr!

With the money from the sr I can easily finish the machine work on the block and head of the ka and assemble it and possibly if I can find good deals finish the valve train setup on the head.

[alwaysnboost]

Rather bring up an old thread then start another. How many are using stock suspension at the strip with success?

[silverarrow27]

I knew several people that ran with stock suspension with success. The fastest one to boot that I know of was an s13 coupe with basic bolt-ons on an SR ran mid 12s, but was fully gutted also. It was a member on Freshalloy YEARS ago.