I got it to start, now look

[nrmskate]

It did this before.

But, I can't get it to idle, I have to keep giving it gas so it wont die on me.

Any suggestions?

I just replaced the spark plugs today.

YouTube - KA24E Still having problems (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RklWgY5tGfA)

[nrmskate]

Bump, please, anyone?

[LA_phantom_240]

link to your thread explaining the original symptoms?

[SoguRacing]

maybe your idle screw under the throttle body is missing or out of adjustment.

[R@ddy]

timing!!
you might want to check it?

[socal_kouki]

maybe your idle screw under the throttle body is missing or out of adjustment.
NO the idle screw isn't a toy. Don't mess with that until you analyze everything else. Unless it's missing that's another story.

timing!!
you might want to check it?
Another quickdraw over here... symptoms, also brief explanation of your mods pertaining to pressurized air/fuel (fmic, bov, etc).

[nrmskate]

its completely stock, has a test pipe, KA24E with 86K on the motor.

Here was the symptoms from before.

YouTube - KA24E Troubles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r71tYkMd1w)

Ended up being the battery and ignition coil.

But, now, It wont even idle on its own, and I know the timing is correct, I just took it and got it done.

It took them almost 2 weeks, they couldn't find a FSM that had the correct timing.

thanks.

[socal_kouki]

You probably already did this but: Do a thorough sweep of your engine bay.

Maf
Spark Plugs
As the previous poster said, check the idle screw it may be missing.
Etc..

[nieko]

they couldnt find a fsm that had the correct timing so it took them 2 weeks?

like they just adjusted your timing or replaced timing chain and what not?

because they lied to you like no tomorrow if they just adjusted ur timing lol

the timing it listed on the inside hood of your car. 15 degrees...

[silviaguy240]

vacuum leak? spray around with some carb cleaner.

[nrmskate]

Yeah, Ive done a vacuum leakdown test, no leaks, I also cleaned the IACV

[LA_phantom_240]

No codes though, right?

[nrmskate]

Nope, no codes are being pulled.

But, it has straight pipes all the way through, like, no res., has a test pipe, and no muffler.

Could the fact be that there is no backpressure cause the problem?

[undesiredshoe]

How are you checking your timing?

[LA_phantom_240]

Nope, no codes are being pulled.

But, it has straight pipes all the way through, like, no res., has a test pipe, and no muffler.

Could the fact be that there is no backpressure cause the problem?

No. I'm running a DC header, Megan Racing test pipe, and 3" exhaust with NO resonators.

[los_inc]

please take a picture of the engine bay
and how your vacuum lines are routed
-los

[nrmskate]

Here are some pictures Ive had for a while.

Tell me if you need better ones.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa216/nrmskate/HPIM0800.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa216/nrmskate/HPIM0799.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa216/nrmskate/HPIM0798.jpg

[socal_kouki]

I assume the tape around the throttle body and the furry belt have been replaced?

BTW: You're just trying to show off your racing stripe in the last pic, don't be a showboater on here. /sarcasm

[nrmskate]

Actually, im not showing off jack shit, if you wanna make assumptions, go ahead.

I fucking hate the paint job on this car.

But, im not going to complain for 300$

and yes, the belt and the tape have been fixed.

[socal_kouki]

Actually, im not showing off jack shit, if you wanna make assumptions, go ahead.

I fucking hate the paint job on this car.

But, im not going to complain for 300$

and yes, the belt and the tape have been fixed.

Good cause i was about to point out the possibility of air escaping through the tape and so forth... hopefully the guy that asked for engine bay pics will chime in with his opinion.

[nrmskate]

Im going to put on my new exhaust and throw some 93 octane gas along with STP Injector cleaner and see how she runs tomorrow.

[LA_phantom_240]

seafoam!!!

[nrmskate]

I might end up doing that, maybe not, Just depends on the cash flow.

Im a 17 year old on a budget here.

lol

[s13 @ fullboost]

Dude seafoam is 8 bucks works real good seafoam FTW!!!

[undesiredshoe]

How are you checking your timing?

How are you checking your timing?

[nrmskate]

I Just got it timed at a mechanic shop, all I have to prove it is a receipt.

[bbejj123]

Here are some pictures Ive had for a while.

Tell me if you need better ones.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa216/nrmskate/HPIM0800.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa216/nrmskate/HPIM0799.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa216/nrmskate/HPIM0798.jpg
theres your problem!! its a SOHC

haha jk i got one too i was having idling problems as well... but do you have access to an FSM? if you dont download one and go to the trouble shooting section and go through the diagnostics...I did this for about a day and finally got it idling and got it down to 1k it was at 3k so its a lot better than it was but i still gotta go back and see if i can get it lower

[payne219]

Have you checked your Maf out?? A friend of mine had the exact same problem in his ka and his ecu didnt throw any codes. The only way he could keep it running was to give it gas other wise the engine would keep falling out.
change out your maf and see what happens.

[s13 @ fullboost]

Have you checked your Maf out?? A friend of mine had the exact same problem in his ka and his ecu didnt throw any codes. The only way he could keep it running was to give it gas other wise the engine would keep falling out.
change out your maf and see what happens.

he already changed it once and he used one from a perfectly fine working car

[phishtank]

you can always make sure the idle screw on the back of the ecu isnt too low. Also how about you unbolt the ecu and crank the car up...leave it plugged up and shit...and leave it in mode 1...and tell us if the green light stays on...or cuts off. Then we can decide if its running rich or if its running lean.

[undesiredshoe]

I Just got it timed at a mechanic shop, all I have to prove it is a receipt.

You sure they did it right?? Try making where the distributor is right now and then loosen the two bolts that hold the distributor to the block and rotate the distributor clockwise.

[shmiddy]

maybe your idle screw under the throttle body is missing or out of adjustment.

no way thats the wrong way to go about it.. that idle screw just doesnt "go bad"

try again

[johngriff]

theres your problem!! its a SOHC

No seriously.

Set it on fire.

[steve shadows]

Yeah, and dual cams with their nightmare dual timing chain too

[aziankingz]

dude, how about searching. No one reply back. He needs to learn.. .

[zil40]

try messing with the maf my sohc had a idle problem turned out the plug to the maf was corroded

[neilsan]

Learn how to set the mechanical ignition timing yourself. It's stupid easy. You can even rent a light gun from autozone for a small deposit (which you get back).

not sure if adjusting the distributor to full advance or retard will make it barely run, though.. but at least you'll learn how to do something for yourself and it sounds like you shouldn't be trusting your mechanic anyway.

What was the car serviced for? Did they have the distributor OUT of the motor? could be something stupid like it was installed off a tooth.

Make sure your O2 sensor is plugged in. Also make sure there are no air leaks between the MAF and throttle body.

[nrmskate]

I was skeptical about the problem being the O2 sensor, but, infact, the wires got cut-off during motor installation.

The reason I had it times was because I put the motor in, and had no idea and didn't want to attempt the task, I figured I'd leave it to the professionals.

[neilsan]

It would be wise to recheck the timing after the O2 sensor is operational. The ECU runs in open loop with the O2 d/c'd and I believe that has an effect on ignition timing, so if it was set to 15° not running properly then once it does run properly it likely won't be at 15° any more, but it should run noticeably better anyway.