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S13SilviaGirl
10-04-2008, 03:10 AM
Finally....on all 12 counts!


O.J. Simpson guilty of armed robbery, kidnapping - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/04/oj.simpson.verdict/?iref=mpstoryview)


O.J. Simpson guilty of armed robbery, kidnapping

* Story Highlights
* Jury finds O.J. Simpson guilty of all counts in 2007 sports memorabilia heist
* Simpson did not testify; evidence came from tapes, former co-defendants
* Simpson, co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart likely to spend rest of lives in prison

From Paul Vercammen
CNN Senior Producer

LAS VEGAS, Nevada (CNN) -- Former gridiron great O.J. Simpson was found guilty Friday of all 12 counts in the armed robbery of two sports memorabilia dealers at a Las Vegas, Nevada, casino hotel last year.

Simpson, 61, and his co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart, 54, were charged with a dozen offenses stemming from the alleged sports memorabilia heist. Stewart was also found guilty of the same charges as Simpson.

Simpson sat quietly and showed little emotion at the defense table as courtroom clerk Sandra Jeter read the verdicts.

After the verdicts were read, deputies immediately handcuffed Simpson and led him out of the courtroom. VideoWatch O.J. Simpson verdict being read »

According to the Associated Press, Carmelita Durio, Simpson's sister, sobbed as he was being escorted out of the courtroom. As spectators left the courtroom, Durio collapsed and paramedics were called, court spokesman Michael Sommermeyer said.

Simpson and Stewart face the possibility of spending the rest of his life in prison for these convictions. Clark County District Judge Jackie Glass set sentencing for December 5. VideoWatch O.J. Simpson being removed from court »

Simpson arrived at the Clark County Justice Center at around 10:50 p.m. (1:50 a.m. Saturday ET). Simpson told CNN's Ted Rowlands on the phone before the verdict was read that he was "apprehensive."

The jury of nine men and three women, none of them African-American, reached its verdict after 13 hours of deliberations Friday. Jurors heard from 22 witnesses over 12 days of testimony. Chief among the witnesses were seven of the nine people inside Room 1203 of the Palace Station Hotel and Casino for the September 13, 2007 confrontation.

The evidence included testimony from the two dealers, four co-defendants who cut plea deals and cooperated with prosecutors and hours of often-profane, crackling, secretly recorded audiotapes.

Prosecutors alleged that the men, led by Simpson, burst into the room, flashed a gun and threatened memorabilia dealers Bruce Fromong and Al Beardsley.

The men then filled two pillowcases with Simpson trinkets, signed Pete Rose baseballs and Joe Montana lithographs. Simpson's defense attorneys maintained their client was merely trying to retrieve personal photographs and other mementos that belonged to him.

Neither Simpson nor Stewart testified during the trial. Instead, their attorneys savaged the motives of the other witnesses.

Simpson's lawyer, Yale Galanter, said Simpson was a target of investigators from the very beginning. The case "has taken on a life of its own because of Mr. Simpson's involvement," he added.

"Every cooperator, every person who had a gun, every person who had an ulterior motive, every person who signed a book deal, every person who got paid money, the police, the district attorney's office is only interested in one thing: Mr. Simpson," Galanter said.

Stewart was characterized by his lawyer, E. Brent Bryson, as the trial's forgotten player.

The most compelling evidence for all sides came from the audiotapes.

For the prosecution, conversations taped by collectibles middleman Thomas Riccio took jurors from the poolside planning to the profanity-laced hotel room confrontation.

Riccio, a chatty sports memorabilia dealer and convicted felon made the rounds on network news shows immediately after the hotel room fracas. He admitted on the stand that various media outlets paid him $210,000.

The crucial evidence for the defense came from two audiotapes, a voicemail from a key prosecution witness who seemed willing to tailor his testimony for a price and tapes of Las Vegas police officers laughing and joking about Simpson's Los Angeles acquittal following his arrest.

Galanter told jurors the surreptitious recording captured police investigators in the hotel room after the confrontation. "They're making jokes. They're saying things like, 'We're gonna get him,"' he said.

Police were called to the hotel around 8 p.m. on September 13, 2007. Shortly after midnight, detectives visited Simpson at his hotel. He told them he was just trying to recover property that had been stolen from him.

"Why are they not in trouble?" Simpson asked about memorabilia dealers Beardsley and Fromong, according to police reports filed in the case. Both men testified for the prosecution, although Beardsley said Simpson did nothing wrong and was "set up" by the "rat Riccio."

Riccio, who was not charged in the case, testified that he didn't think twice about recording Simpson when asked for help retrieving what Simpson claimed was his property.

All four of the former co-defendants testified for the prosecution. Two of them tied Simpson to guns and threats.

Michael McClinton testified that Simpson instructed him to bring a gun and "look menacing" before they entered the hotel room.

Simpson has told police he had no idea the people with him were armed.

The testimony was laced with innuendo about unsavory activities by several of the witnesses, many with criminal records. Riccio and Beardsley feuded openly, calling each other names and questioning each other's sanity.

Aware that loose cannons on the stand could blow the case into mistrial purgatory, Glass refused to let David Cook testify. Cook, an attorney for the family of Ronald Lyle Goldman, searches for Simpson assets to satisfy the $33.5 million civil judgment against the former NFL star.

Simpson was acquitted of killing his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and Goldman in a trial that ended 13 years to the day before the Las Vegas jury began its deliberations.

Regarding Glass' ruling, Cook told CNN: "If you read between the lines, I think she thought my appearance would bring up the Ghost of Christmas Past."

The case featured 19 male witnesses and just three cameo appearances from women. Swagger and testosterone ran rampant with hard stares from the witness stand.

As testimony neared its end, Glass, a former television news reporter, vented her frustration with the quibbling lawyers.

"I'm trying to get this trial back on track," she snapped. "I am surprised you haven't seen my head spin and fire come out of my mouth at this point in this trial."

CNN's Ted Rowlands contributed to this report.

SlideWell
10-04-2008, 03:31 AM
he was always guilty.

Rick-95ZE
10-04-2008, 04:19 AM
:w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t:

CrashQueen
10-04-2008, 04:26 AM
when the bad get what's coming to them.


karma strikes back....


i always thought he had guilty written all over him ever since the trials for the murder of his wife.

Mister.E
10-04-2008, 04:28 AM
fool has always been guilty, finally he's paying for it.

S13SilviaGirl
10-04-2008, 04:32 AM
fool has always been guilty, finally he's paying for it.

Yepppp... haha. He is like "damn, I got caught!"

SlideWell
10-04-2008, 04:57 AM
it was pure disappointment during his first initial trial. i was in 7th grade in Florida, gym class, all the black kids got to go watch his judgement as it was made, they came outside jumping and cheering. thats history.
on another note, i was locked up when michael jackson was in his most recent slump with the law. there were many mixed opinions.

silviachik420
10-04-2008, 05:04 AM
All white jury

And that judge was giving no slack!!!!

240esux
10-04-2008, 05:52 AM
karma is a motha. Rot In Pieces OJ!!!!!!!!!!

murda-c
10-04-2008, 07:27 AM
I'm black, and i still don't understand people being happy about OJ getting off.

I mean, i understand, but to me, murder is murder no matter how shitty the people trying you are.

lucky7
10-04-2008, 08:38 AM
justice, finally. this guy just got way too lucky for wayy too long.

Future240
10-04-2008, 09:31 AM
I'm black, and i still don't understand people being happy about OJ getting off.

I mean, i understand, but to me, murder is murder no matter how shitty the people trying you are.

:werd: I was like, so he killed someone and got away and we are suppose to be happy? :confused:

1ZlowZ
10-04-2008, 10:15 AM
I always though OJ was a football player... Weird.

Gnnr
10-04-2008, 10:44 AM
Ehh. That ain't karma. Thats just him being stupid. Karma would had been him getting hit by a white Ford Bronco while crossing the street one day or something. Its not like hes gonna get the chair for robbery. How long is his sentence?

dat411kid
10-04-2008, 10:47 AM
Ehh. That ain't karma. Thats just him being stupid. Karma would had been him getting hit by a white Ford Bronco while crossing the street one day or something. Its not like hes gonna get the chair for robbery. How long is his sentence?
Ha, i believe the minimum sentence is 15 years...and maximum of life...This is no joke for OJ..

smellslikecurry
10-04-2008, 10:53 AM
what about his book...about how he "would have" killed his wife

Matej
10-04-2008, 11:08 AM
OJ is a saint!

Obviously he has been framed.

Mi Beardo es Loco
10-04-2008, 11:26 AM
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo not the naked gun guy!!!!

singlecamslam
10-04-2008, 12:03 PM
maybe getting away with murder got to his head, so he though "hey, lets try kidnapping"

HyperTek
10-04-2008, 12:04 PM
bout time he dropped a hip hop album, he got more street cred then alot of these kats today

TiNMAN
10-04-2008, 12:07 PM
I always though OJ was a football player... Weird.

you serious?

sac
10-04-2008, 12:12 PM
^^ i was thinkin the same.. no way serious...

Hypertek.... True! i got sick of all the new stuff. Dug up all the old stuff to go back to the good old days...
"thats why i fu*k'd yo bitch you fat mother fu*ker"-pac and o hell cant think of just one EASY-E quote... Those were the days!

WERDdabuilder
10-04-2008, 12:16 PM
Rioooooot!!!!!!!!!

BustedS13
10-04-2008, 12:18 PM
wow. what a stupid thing to go to jail forever for.

i really hope he killed his wife, because he's going to get shanked for it.

qwikspool
10-04-2008, 12:44 PM
he should of been guilty long long looooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggg time ago.

TiNMAN
10-04-2008, 12:59 PM
Rioooooot!!!!!!!!!

haha

i was watchin a show about the LA riots earlier this week



dooooo ittttttt

Gnnr
10-04-2008, 02:01 PM
wow. what a stupid thing to go to jail forever for.

i really hope he killed his wife, because he's going to get shanked for it.

Pffft. He's gonna be in a nice jail, away from any real criminals, with more comforts than a south beach condo.

BustedS13
10-04-2008, 02:21 PM
Pffft. He's gonna be in a nice jail, away from any real criminals, with more comforts than a south beach condo.

he was convicted of armed robbery, he's not going to a white collar resort prison. he's going to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.

silviaguy240
10-04-2008, 04:54 PM
i dont want to go to any kind of prison!!

HyperTek
10-04-2008, 05:18 PM
OJ finally gonna get that ass raped. He got lucky before.. lol


Sucks though, he just had to go screw up the rest of his life.

nu_born
10-04-2008, 05:18 PM
"damn...they got my dumbass"
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20081005/2008_10_04t033710_450x346_us_simpson.jpg?x=400&y=307&q=85&sig=GmYKH.1Kv9X3ySTOUjuDCg--

Gnnr
10-04-2008, 05:22 PM
he was convicted of armed robbery, he's not going to a white collar resort prison. he's going to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.

Haha. Well, we'll see....

1ZlowZ
10-04-2008, 05:57 PM
No I seriously did think he was a football player... Isn't there a rapper then named the same? I don't know...

OptionZero
10-04-2008, 05:58 PM
he was convicted of armed robbery, he's not going to a white collar resort prison. he's going to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.

Armed robbery is not a federal offense.
The feds have jurisdiction over stuff that affects interstate commerce (which is pretty broad) or affects the country as a whole (treason)

He was convicted in Clark County - a Nevada state court.
If he were to go to prison, he would go to a Nevada State penitentiary...but I don't believe sentencing a hearing has been held yet.

Random distinction:

Jail = 30 days
Prison = more than 30 days

LongLostLatz
10-04-2008, 06:11 PM
Yeah he got off with murder but it turns out he was just living on borrowed time... Dont drop the soap Juice!!!!

SexPanda
10-04-2008, 11:09 PM
wheres Johnny Cochran when you need him?

Modrified
10-04-2008, 11:15 PM
haha. simpson is such a sad story athlete. i remember when this vegas incident came out, there was an audio released and you could here some vegas cops in the background saying los angeles couldn't get simpson but las vegas will. bwahaha. simpson was doomed way even before this trial started.

ALTRNTV
10-05-2008, 03:07 PM
"Motion denied." Hahahahahaha, I love that judge.

He got what he deserved.

BustedS13
10-05-2008, 03:49 PM
wheres Johnny Cochran when you need him?

yeah, somebody should dig him up :tardrim:

allntrlundrgrnd
10-05-2008, 04:02 PM
http://assets.espn.go.com/i/magazine/new/simpson_verdict_reaction.jpg

Phlip
10-05-2008, 04:02 PM
His last refuge will be when he records a rap album, and then gets killed.
I mean, no one even investigates when I rapper is killed, I can name 8 right off the top of my head.

S13SilviaGirl
10-05-2008, 04:10 PM
His last refuge will be when he records a rap album, and then gets killed.
I mean, no one even investigates when I rapper is killed, I can name 8 right off the top of my head.

Wait, people kill rappers? :eek3: Say it aint so~ :eek2:










I keed I keed. :)

luckvx
10-06-2008, 02:25 PM
he should have stayed away from trouble, an all white jury has been waiting to convict him for years he finally fucked up and now the "man" got him

40daws
10-06-2008, 03:27 PM
Do all states have this law that got O.J. convicted ? So,if someone steals your stuff and you go to get it back,without the police,and you yell and kick a few doors in....? You get 13 years for getting your DO-Luck sway bar back ?

OptionZero
10-06-2008, 07:58 PM
Disclaimer:
Do not take any of my comments as legal advice in any way shape or form. I assume no liability for your actions. By reading my comment you solemnly swear or affirm you will not mention my username to any law enforcement agency investigating you for any purpose.


California's robbery statute (Penal Code Section 211) does not include any element of ownership. Case law, however, has long said that one who takes property that belongs to oneself cannot be guilty of robbery.

NOTE:

Escaping a robbery charge because you owned the property "retrieved" does not mean escaping criminal liability for any other offenses committed in the process. Breaking and entering, burglary, assault, or other crimes may well be successfully charged against you, depending on the facts.

Again, NOTE:
Robbery is only one possible charge if you decide to "pull an O.J."

smellslikecurry
10-14-2008, 09:01 PM
http://img.yawoot.com/33d9288541f6a48bf11d356ea83c452a.jpg

Matej
10-14-2008, 09:31 PM
http://img.yawoot.com/33d9288541f6a48bf11d356ea83c452a.jpg
Because he took care of her already.

xtheenderx
12-05-2008, 11:13 AM
sentencing has started

stiizy
12-05-2008, 11:14 AM
^^ Oh yeah whats he looking at??

xtheenderx
12-05-2008, 11:17 AM
OJ Simpson is getting 15yrs in prison and in 5yrs eligible for parole. His partner Stuart is also getting a similar sentence.

murda-c
12-05-2008, 11:21 AM
There has been so much fail in the legal system regarding OJ until now.

ALTRNTV
12-05-2008, 11:21 AM
He'll be out in 2 years.

revat619
12-05-2008, 11:32 AM
this dude is a joke. Why can't he just sit the fuck down!? hahahaha

He's BEEN guilty. whatever.

aziankingz
12-05-2008, 11:34 AM
damn this guy should have been in prison 10 years ago..

OptionZero
12-05-2008, 02:21 PM
15 years on kidnapping
Eligible for parole after 5 years

Gun enhancement of 1.5 - 6 years, sentencing open (undetermined for now), to be served consecutively.

Earliest he can get out is 6.5 years (if he makes parole in 5 years, then gets the lowest sentence possible on the gun charge tacked on, 1.5 years. . . 5 + 1.5 = 6.5)

Toward the end he said OJ's gonna spend 8 to 10 years in prison - I believe that was his estimation for how the gun enhancement sentencing and parole will turn out, as my math above indicates the legal minimum is only 6.5 years. I cannot predict how his sentencing and parole will go.

According to the ESPN's legal analyst. I will presume he's competent enough to report a sentencing correctly.

Again, this is NV state, not the feds.

Burress and Pierce might be looking at the feds doing something.

stiizy
12-05-2008, 03:21 PM
Burress and Pierce might be looking at the feds doing something.


Pierce is only gonna get probation if even that is what they said, Burress might do a shock 6-5 ( 6 months jail=4 months and 5 yrs probation)

WERDdabuilder
12-05-2008, 04:53 PM
homie got a raw deal!!!!

OptionZero
12-05-2008, 04:58 PM
Reading the text of the ESPN story it looks like the assault and other charges were consecutively imposed as well, which could be where he got the nine years from.

I'm sure someone will put the actual judgment online eventually