synthetic oil?

[fastpace]

Hey what's up yall. I have this problem with the car that is killing me sense yesterday. I was going to Church the car run okay. But I turned off the radio and started to hear these wierd noise from the engine. It sounded like the engine was struggling to move the car. So I get back home and a couple of hours go past and I check to see what the oil level was at and it is on low. I don't know what the hell is the problem with the oil. I know for sure I did a few autox's after I changed it and I also switched to synthetic oil. At the time the car had 77k miles on it and now just about 1200 after I checked the oil. This happenned to my brother's '96 eclipse which had about 30k more miles than me. But anyway's I drove the car today and it still felt kind of weak after putting the same brand of synthetic oil in. I don't know what the hell is the problem with the car? But any help would be greatly appreciated.
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[uiuc240]

can you be a bit more descriptive?

what sounds was the motor making?

how much oil did you have to add?

what weight/brand are you using?

are you noticing any smoke from the tailpipe?

Eric

[adey]

This may sound trivial, but are you sure that you filled up the full 4 quarts last time (and this time)? &nbsp;It's good to check the dipstick even after you put 4 quarts in , to make sure you're not putting in too much, or for some reason the oil seems to be disappearing on you.

Have you tried checking your codes? You may be experiencing other problems...

[transient]

Checking the dipstick after an oil change is a must, especially since 240's actually carry a bit less than the usual 4 quarts.

[fastpace]

Yes I put in the required 4 quarts of synthetic oil and I also checked the dipstick and it read full. I am using valvoline synthetic oil(10W-30). I put in another 2 quarts of oil in yesterday and checked the dipstick today and it still read full. The sound sounds like a wounded animal (like a whooling sound). I know the ka doesn't have to much power, but whenever I push on the gas the car is stalling. Oh by the way it is a '93 if that helps.

[Dousan_PG]

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the KA has a lot of power. you just dont know how to use it if you say that.


secondly, have you checked for leaks on the engine (oil pan, valve cover, etc)

have you run an ECU diagnostic?

did this just happen after going syn oil?
run a compression?

[DSC]

Well I dono how to help fix the problem here, but I'm gona have to agree with fastpace when he says the car doesn't have much power. &nbsp;We all know they are great little cars but lets be realistic, 130hp isn't much.

[Dousan_PG]

its not about the power as much as it is about the driver. its ALL about the driver, whether is 1,300 RWHP or 130 RWHP. driver makes all the difference.

[uiuc240]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (fastpace @ Dec. 16 2002,4:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes I put in the required 4 quarts of synthetic oil and I also checked the dipstick and it read full. I am using valvoline synthetic oil(10W-30). I put in another 2 quarts of oil in yesterday and checked the dipstick today and it still read full. The sound sounds like a wounded animal (like a whooling sound). I know the ka doesn't have to much power, but whenever I push on the gas the car is stalling. Oh by the way it is a '93 if that helps.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You oil is going SOMEWHERE. &nbsp;It's either burning out the back end (check for smoke), or it's leaking right onto the ground. &nbsp;Get down there and have a look. &nbsp;Do you have a leak?

Help us help you.

Eric

P.S. &nbsp;Wounded animal sounds are generally not good.

[Toso]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (fastpace @ Dec. 16 2002,1:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey what's up yall. I have this problem with the car that is killing me sense yesterday. I was going to Church the car run okay. But I turned off the radio and started to hear these wierd noise from the engine. It sounded like the engine was struggling to move the car. So I get back home and a couple of hours go past and I check to see what the oil level was at and it is on low. I don't know what the hell is the problem with the oil. I know for sure I did a few autox's after I changed it and I also switched to synthetic oil. At the time the car had 77k miles on it and now just about 1200 after I checked the oil. This happenned to my brother's '96 eclipse which had about 30k more miles than me. But anyway's I drove the car today and it still felt kind of weak after putting the same brand of synthetic oil in. I don't know what the hell is the problem with the car? But any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Look under your car! See if you have any visible oil leaks. Check your exhaust. Are you leaving nice clouds of blue smoke behind you when you drive? You seem to be losing a ton of oil, shouldnt be hard to track down. As for lack of power, test your compression. Those are the first steps. Until you do all those, we cant help you any more.

[tnord]

loss of power + lots of oil = probably too much in there.

if you don't know if it's leaking, drain it then measure how much came out, that'd give ya a good lead. with that much extra in there though, i dunno what problems it would cause, but it can't be good.

[kandyflip445]

I second the compression test. If the compression varies too much from cyl. to cyl. then do a leakdown test. If you are having a LOT of oil loss you COULD pull your plugs and see if one of them is oil fouled. It doesn't overheat does it?

[/etc/shadow]

Originally posted by DSC
Well I dono how to help fix the problem here, but I'm gona have to agree with fastpace when he says the car doesn't have much power. &nbsp;We all know they are great little cars but lets be realistic, 130hp isn't much.

Be sure you keep in mind that the car's engine actually has 155 hp, and even more torque than that. I'm proud to drive on one of the fastest naturally aspirated 4 cyl engines.

[tnord]

Originally posted by /etc/shadow
Be sure you keep in mind that the car's engine actually has 155 hp, and even more torque than that. I'm proud to drive on one of the fastest naturally aspirated 4 cyl engines.

i hope you don't drive a 240, cause it's definitely not one of the fastest NA 4cyl cars.

[DSC]

Originally posted by dousan36
its not about the power as much as it is about the driver. its ALL about the driver, whether is 1,300 RWHP or 130 RWHP. driver makes all the difference.

I couldn't agree with you more.

I was just commenting on this "the KA has a lot of power. you just dont know how to use it if you say that."

But driver skill doesn't make an engine more powerful, so I figured I'd comment.

[ka24de_s13]

when switching to synthetic on older cars it is normal for some oil to burn off after the switch. This is due to the diffrent way synthetic oil treats the seals inside the engine. If you are really worried give the valvoline tech line a call and see what they think. I have switched a few cars and all of them lost at least a quart after the first oil change.

[fastpace]

yep that is what i am thinking. that is a good ideal i will give them a call and see whats up. also after the drive from college to home the car ran great and no sign of lack of power. Thanks for the advice ka24de_s13.

[drift freaq]

well if your gonna run synthetic there are only two brands I trust.
Amsoil and Mobil 1 IMHO.
Redline makes good gear oil but I do not trust their engine oil I do not think its API certified.
this is my take on synthetics . Amsoil was the first followed closely by Mobil 1 and Redline. All the other companies resisted making it till they absolutely had to, because it was getting popular.
In my opinion I would use a synthetic that the companies wished to do it from the get go not as an afterthought. Which brings me back to the three companies I listed . Its your call , this is my opinion.
:p

[ka24de_s13]

another important thing to note is that mobil 1 is factory fill on all AMG mercedes, porsche and a bunch of other luxury/sport cars.

I use only mobil 1 in all my cars except my beater that gets regular castrol but only cause mobil 1 is much more expensive.

and if youre lookin for cheap mobil 1 walmart is the place to go