California Legal Turbo Kit?

[quidquam]

Anyone know if there is a CARB-exempt turbo kit for my `95 240sx (non-SE)? I would love to go turbo, but with the f**king police state we live in (random smog check points, etc), I can't risk doing it illegally. I learned that lesson trying to put a d16z6 in my old CRX SI. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

First I need to get some new shocks and springs and tires, though... Previous owner put "road huggers" on my car. Ouch!

mike

[Krunko]

random smog check points?? where?

[MrMigs]

The Greddy turbo kit is supposedly going to be CARB legal. So I'm waiting for that to come out... whenever that is. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[drift freaq]

random smog checks? dude what the hell are you talking about ? You been going to too many of those Honda boy street races .Where they pull all of the dumb asses aside. run them through smog checks because the idiots are congrating in huge numbers. I mean if you stay away from that stuff you will never run into those problems.
I know lots of people running modded engines who are having no problems with random smog checks.
Unless they go to those street races.
Can't afford to pay don't play. rules of the game thats the way it works.
Its called using your head.
Also California is far from a Police state. So chill out.

[SilviaDriver]

agreed, GReddy turbo kit is CARB due to that they use a small eclipse turbo. dont know when its coming out tho.

[vapor_skank]

The turbo kit migt be carb legal but is that all your going to have. &nbsp;If you go through a smog check many other things will make it fail.

[Krunko]

i've lived in LA for about 3 months now, and it seems like you pretty much need to do something REALLY stupid to get pulled over here. &nbsp;I'msure its different from the smaller towns, but here...well they seem to have much more to worry about. &nbsp;I mean to speed on the freeway means you have to be going atleast like 80...and really its sorta dumb to go much higher then that anyways.

[240Stilo]

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They give us a baby turbo because they fear the KA potential. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':evil:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[quidquam]

I've seen 2 random smog checkpoints on state college blvd in fullerton, and another on Main street in corona near the 15. They exist, and I don't hang out with rice boys nor do I street race.

Try reading a newspaper or the bill of rights, specifically the 4th amendment. I'm confident you won't, but you really should.

Everyone else, thanks for the pointers -- I'll keep and eye out for the kit you mentioned, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

mike

[RYNO_s13]

Originally posted by quidquam
...Try reading a newspaper or the bill of rights, specifically the 4th amendment. I'm confident you won't, but you really should. ...

mike

Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but on probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Please note that nowhere in the fourth amendment does there occur any mention of a random inspection to insure compliance with a standing statute. This law was enacted to protect the people from being singled out and accosted by the powers that be and accused, tried, and convicted based on the opinion of someone in a authority. A random inspection is just that. Random. However, if this is a real problem for you, consider a hypothetical issue. Your mother has just been killed in a hit and run involving a drunk driver. This driver would have been taken off the streets by a random DUI checkpoint. Different caliber, yes, but the same issue. If one random checkpoint is unlawful, they all are. Sorry for being so longwinded.

[quidquam]

I agree in part. They should all be illegal, including the random DUI checkpoints. My mother's death being avenged or not, they need probable cause to detain you. If a driver is drunk enough to kill someone and flee, they're probably driving bad enough to justify being pulled over without a checkpoint.

As for the 4th amendment not explicitly covering this example, check out out this URL:

http://www.lp.org/lpn/9608-Gorman.html

It appears that there are lots of people on both sides of the issue. However, I read "persons, hourses, papers and effects" to include cars. The definition for "effects" is,

effects
n : property of a personal character that is portable but not
used in business; "she left some of her personal effects
in the house"; "I watched over their effects until they
returned" [syn: {personal effects}]

Mike

[C-Kwik]

Driving is not a right, it is a priveledge. They can make checkpoints all they want. If they determine there is probable cause on the spot, then it is perfectly legal. But that's the key. In the case of a DUI checkpoint (which I have been through before), if they smell alcohol on your breath, or you appear to be intoxicated my your movemens or appearance, etc. Can't think of how they would determine probable cause on a smog checkpoint though. Unless your car is spewing out smoke.

[drift freaq]

I've seen 2 random smog checkpoints on state college blvd in fullerton, and another on Main street in corona near the 15. They exist, and I don't hang out with rice boys nor do I street race.

Try reading a newspaper or the bill of rights, specifically the 4th amendment. I'm confident you won't, but you really should.



ok , you are in rice central. Lots of HOnda kids and lots of people street racing. Which basically means though you do not street race your in an area that is accustom to it.
Because of that, I would guess, the cops have pulled over street racers. Who most likely did not have all their smog equipment. Given that the cops have probable cause to do random smog checks.
Why you ask.
1.Street racing is illegal and amounts to a Exhibition of Speed violation or Reckless driving violation.
2. Given that they have now pulled the driver over for racing, they have probable cause to inspect under the hood of the drivers car for illegal mods.
3. If they have cited and covicted drivers for these issues in your area, they have probable cause to setup random checkpoints. A Judge would give them cart blanche under these circumstances.


ok , that said I read the LA times, the Wall street Journal and the New York times.
You want to make anymore smart remarks to me about the bill of rights or reading newspapers.

You where the one that came off half cocked on this subject. Can't take it move someplace else.

[quidquam]

If I live in the inner city where lots of people sell drugs out of their homes, should the cops have the right to come in and search my house just because my neighbors got busted? I think that'd be an egregious violation of my rights.

As for being half-cocked, you're the one who was so incredulous (and rude) when I mentioned the existence of these checkpoints. Now you've conceeded that they do exist, but you're trying to rationalize them. What's your point?

This is my last post on this thread... it's way too off-topic. If you want to continue it, take it to private email.

you can reach me at [email protected]

mike

[drift freaq]

If I live in the inner city where lots of people sell drugs out of their homes, should the cops have the right to come in and search my house just because my neighbors got busted? I think that'd be an egregious violation of my rights.

As for being half-cocked, you're the one who was so incredulous (and rude) when I mentioned the existence of these checkpoints. Now you've conceeded that they do exist, but you're trying to rationalize them. What's your point?

This is my last post on this thread... it's way too off-topic. If you want to continue it, take it to private email.

you can reach me at [email protected]



ok, your analogy sucks. Your car is not a soverign entity . Like was stated earlier driving is a priviledge not a right. Therefore you cannot apply the analogy you used above.
Incredulous yes, there are no such random smog check places around here in Los Angeles, the city of. You do know you live in the most conservative county in the whole state don't you? There is a reason there is a joke made about orange county which is where Fullerton is. Behind the Orange curtain.
I am not rationalizing anything. I was explaining to you why these things exist the way they do in your area . Nor did I admit knowing that they were there. I took the information you gave me about the area and applied it to California laws and statutes that exist .So you would understand why. It went right over your head.