How to paint your car in 5 easy steps

[gsracer]

Just kidding its more like 30 steps, but what ever. Thought this might help most of you guys wanting to paint there own car. Now i am no professional and i do this in my backyard, but i get fairly decent results. So if you are a pro please chime in with any discrepancies. As i said i am not a pro so do this at your own risk. Im doind the whole car but so far only have finished the engine bay, interior and trunk. Anyway here goes...

What you need

spray gun
This is a widely debated subject there are many types available, i use a harbor frieght HVLP (high volume low pressure) special

Compressor
Also widely debated, just make sure its got enough cfm (air flow) to feed whatever fun you use

Sanding aparattus ( this means sand paper) you need a few different types including scuff pads ( these are some what like sponge pads with texture for sanding

Bondo , no body really uses bondo any more its really a plastic filler

Primers
I like two types
DTM direct to metal ( for bare metal)
And 2k primer (overall primer)

Paint and clear
I use urethane basecoat and clear coat.


First thing i do is gauge what i want to do with what im working with, IE any repairs and what not.

Here is my engine bay before (I started to take pics partway thru) so the narration might not match but you get the idea


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I decided to stitchweld the engine bay and remove the battery tray, also to cut the front fenderwells and stretch them out to create more tire clearance also to cut the front fender areas out and weld panels in place to get rid of the holes


Sticth weld

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Make sure to apply direct to metal primer, any where you have gone thru to bare metal


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Next i welded these panels more for decoration than anything else, but maybe the would add support


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Next i decided to change the radiator support, so i drilled out the spot welds and reinstalled a used one from the junkyard


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I got tired of having clearance issues with the 265/275s up front and was to lazy to do a full front tub, so i cut the front fender well bent it forward added some metal then smoothed it, placed some filler and done. Have plenty of clearance now.


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Now onto filler, i am no expert on this stuff. I avoid using it when at all possible. Reason being is that in this area i struggle alot, it ussually takes me a few tries to get it right. Just follow the instructions on the can and you should be good

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Ok at this point all repairs have been done and we are ready for primer.
What i like to do is scuff the surface very well with a 3m scuff pad. They have a few different types, I use here the red one which is the coarsest. The idea is to give the surface some texture for the primer to bite on to. For primer i used some dupont urethane 2k primer.

Here is the primer layed out


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At this point you have your primer and it needs some sanding. You want to smooth out the surface as much as possible so the basecoat will go on flat. You want to wetsand this as it will make the process easier and save sand paper. Hopefully if you layed your primer flat enough you can start with a 320 gritt and sand everything you primed. If your doing an engine bay or something like that it gets to be really hard to get into those hard to reach places but do your best. After im done with the 320 grit i wet sand with a 600 grit to get the surface as flat as possible.

At this point your ready for paint.

For paint i chose to use duponts chromabase system. I purchase one gallon of chromabase basecoat. It is supposed to be reduced 1 to 1 so i also purchase one gallon of chromabase high temperature reducer. Reducer is sold by temperature ranges, its 95 degrees in miami, so i chose the high temp reducer. One gallon of paint once reduced turns into two gallon. In reality you probably only need two quarts ( reduced to one gallon) to paint a car, however i wanted to have extra paint as this is a race car and would probably get messed up. Also I purchased One gallon of dupont chroma clear with 1 quart of hardener. This is mixed 4 to 1. I also purchased one gallon of duponts final klean. This is a cleaner that you use right before you paint as to clean the surface. Heres a pic of all the products. Cost on these items is arount 550.00



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First thing you want to do is blow the area your about to paint with air to remove any dust or debris. Then you wipe down the area your about to paint with the final klean. After your done you wipe up any residue with a clean rag.
This will be the last time your touching the surface with your hands other wise you will have to redo this procedure.

Well now your ready for paint, its best to do this in a enclosed enviroment but whatever i did it outside.

First you want to mix the base coat with the reducer remember to do it per the instructions recomended by the manufacturer.

first coat you want to spray very lightly your not looking for complete coverage you just want to get the surface wet for the subsquent coats.
Important is to pay attention to flash times, this is the time between coats. On the dupont paint its 10 minutes.


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Then most people will spray two coats, but i typiclly spray for coverage. As much paint as required to cover the surface. When spray mettalics its good to do a fog coat, like really fast about 18 inches off the surface just to even out the mettallics.

Here it is after coats two and three



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Yuca saying oh snap that looks hot


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Now at this point if you have no runs or drips your ready for your clear. You should wait at least 30-45 minutes to clear. The clear mixes 4 to 1. So you mix again per manufacutres directions and shoot. This stuff goes on pretty wet so becareful as to not get runs. The flast time for this is also ten minutes but i wait about 15-20 minutes to ensure its good and ready. I sprayed 3 coats of the clear. Here aree the pics spraying

first coat


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second coat and third coat


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Now you just sit and wait for it to dry. Typically you can handle it in 2-3 hours and its fully cured with in 24 hours.
Since this is the engine bay i will not be wetsanding and buffing it, i will cover that later as i do the rest of the car.


Heres pics of the finished product




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Now this is somewhat vague i understand, however you guys can get an idea of the work involved. Hope this helps.

[Maximamike]

I like how you didn't mask shit and just rolled the car cover back. Looks good! :bigok:

[gsracer]

well i still have to paint the rest of the car. lol so it dont matter too much lol

[crazybb]

what kind of compressor did you use??

[zugoi]

good shit. Good pre-work is whats most important.

[BustedS13]

blatantly off topic:
what's with people on this board having like... car decks instead of driveways? i don't think i've ever seen one of those in person. or is that your deck and you pulled your car onto it? what's going on i'm so confused >.<

[Jordan-S13-Silvia]

NIce job man it like its profesional

[gsracer]

what kind of compressor did you use??


devilbliss 5 hp 40 gallon

blatantly off topic:
what's with people on this board having like... car decks instead of driveways? i don't think i've ever seen one of those in person. or is that your deck and you pulled your car onto it? what's going on i'm so confused >.<

Its a car deck we built in the back yard, the prime realestate is taken up by a 1957 chevy belaire lol

[gsracer]

Here is the inside and the trunk process start to finish was the same as above

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[silpena]

nice work man;) i just glad someone else doesn't refer all body filler as freaking "BONDO". That just annoys me. Again nice work. Your someone i could trust helping me on my car if i needed a hand to get stuff done quick. Only thing is did u use all of the base in the engine compartment?? or for the whole car inside/out. 1:1 mixing ratio to make 2 gallons is whole shit load. You could do almost 2 1/2 fb 240sx with that. I only use half a gallon at a 4:1 mixing. got about 3 coats. I had to stretch it out alot and choosing a good color like midnight black helped also since my car was allready black.

[gsracer]

i used 16 ozs of paint to do the engine bay, 3 coats 16ozs lol. I spilled more paint on the floor than i used to painit the engine bay.

Your right you could probably paint two s14s with the paint i bought, but i wanted to have extra since this is a race car i will be repainting peices in the future ha ha

[turboboost12004]

wow really nice

[ka-turbo]

wow really great work and ass for the engine bay and you saying your not gonna be wet sanding and buffing it still looks like a thousand dollar paint job from what i can see in the pics

now im kinda of a newbee at painting soo can you explain why you wet sand(and also what it is and for and what is used in the process) and buff as these are the only things im only kinda of not a 100% sure of but almost everything else i pretty dam sure i know really well.
maybe a few things here and there that the veteran painters could give me some insight and tips but other than that im pretty confident

[essforteen]

did you have any prior experience painting or is it your first time
good job by the way

[xpertsnowcarver]

phenominal job bro. great thread.

[Phaze*2_Mizzark]

niccccccce! cant wait to see the finished product! looks great

[crazybb]

very nice job......

[projekt_s13]

Nice write up, the results are amazing. Rated and subscribed. Keep us updated with pictures.

[a_ahmed]

wow man that is one sexy sexy, hehe, keep us posted... subscribed for sure. Loving the project man.

[miggypq21]

Wow man, awesome color and props to doing it yourself.

What are you doing with the overs?

Are you just gonna paint them on the car?

[KwKouki]

lmao @ gastons face in the pic. You know what sucks about gsracer........hes doing this shit for fun and hes embarrassing people that do this for a living in the process

[gsracer]

did you have any prior experience painting or is it your first time
good job by the way

Ive painted before but in my backyard. Small things , fenders, sideskirts, valences, bumpers etc. But i learned from reading the web and buying a gun and just spraying old panels and such.



Wow man, awesome color and props to doing it yourself.

What are you doing with the overs?

Are you just gonna paint them on the car?

The overs are glued onto the car at this point so they will be painted on the car.


lmao @ gastons face in the pic. You know what sucks about gsracer........hes doing this shit for fun and hes embarrassing people that do this for a living in the process

i apreaciate the kind words tj however this isnt rocket science if you can read instructions and can aquire the tools you can do this too. One thing you guys have that bodyshops dont is time. You can take your time and do it perfect, they have to move work in order to make money. Of course there are always exceptions, but you usually pay for it $$$. Im tend to get caught up in making things perfect only to realize half way that its a race car and im probably gonna break it anyway.



I got the to front fenders sanded today and ready for primer/sealer.

first some of the tools,

Sandpaper, if you need pics , step away from your car now please.

Dual action sander. Some of the pros can do the whole car with this and make the panels come out straight , but i have never tried. I used this to get the bulk of the material off then i do the rest by hand.


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Then this is the scuff pad, i use this for the hard to reach places and for a once over of everything before i spray the primer or basecoat.


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Here you can see the panel beiing ready to be sanded. Its a good idea to purchase a pre cleaner from your local body shop supply store to clean the item you are sanding. Because if its dirty your only going to work the dirt/grease/wax etc into the pores of the item your painting and this can make things difficult later.


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Here you can see the top part has been sanded. As i said before i use the DA only to get off the bulk of the material and then i hand sand from there.


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In this picture you can see the whole panel has been sanded. This is after DA and hand sanding. At this stage since this panel will be primed and sealead all i have used is 180 grit. This is just to give the sealer something to bite to. Later once the panel has been sealead and primed. I will wetsand to flatten the surface further.


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Here you can see the dull surface scuffed and sanded.


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This is a neat trick an old school body guy taught me, it helps give you an idea how straight the panel is. After the surface is nice and dull, pour some water on it, the water will film coat the panel and look just like clear has been sprayed on. It helps give you an idea where more work is required. However if you do this on bare metal take care to clean and prime it afterwards so as not to rust.


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Heres on the car ready for primer


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[miggypq21]

Sorry to go off topic but,

LMK how those fenders come out painted, I'm actually thinking of going the over fender route myself, lol.

Awesome skills broski.

What color are you gonna paint it?

[Ninjabread]

Good stuff!

Subscribed :)

[surreybc]

thank you for documenting this. sad, but most are parasites.

[thatdrifterguy]

did you use the same gun for primer and base?? some people say to use different guns but i dont wanna have to buy another one. im also starting to get into painting. good info!!!!

[mehsilvia]

did you use the same gun for primer and base?? some people say to use different guns but i dont wanna have to buy another one. im also starting to get into painting. good info!!!!

Read the products. the paint, clear, and primers will recommed "tip" sizes. Most of the Harbor Freight guns have a single tip and prob would do just fine for all materials.

gsracer is dead on. Just read the materials, and practice, practice, practice - its not too hard.

Great writeup and beautiful color choice.


p.s. neighbors must LOVE you :keke: i know the smell from my garage lasted for hours and covered the whole block.

[FRpilot]

p.s. neighbors must LOVE you :keke: i know the smell from my garage lasted for hours and covered the whole block.

does it smell that bad?

[xsparc]

I got a question about the filler you used. Did wet sanding it mess it up? Im gonna be using poly glaze putty since i can get it by the gallon. I dont wanna wet sand it and then have mosture trapped inside after i spray the primer.

[a_ahmed]

I wana quit my day job and just do this too man... lol...

[alkemyst]

:) the only 5 step method is:

1) pick color
2) drive to body shop
3) cash or credit
4) pick up car
5) enjoy.

:)

[juice.def]

nice color..

[Smurf_240SX]

wow this looks like its gonna turn out really nice! I wanna see more

[BLKS13]

You should continue this as your build thread. haha

I envy your car, and the time you have to work on it :)

Keep it up!

[SexPanda]

Damn... Looking very good, good pointers. Im jealous. I cant wait til I buy another 240 now...

Im gonna do so much to the body... It'll be stiffer than an old dude with an unlimited supply of viagra.

[gsracer]

This is where the car sits, roof is primered. Reluctantly got some origin labs rear bumper and side skirts. Heres some pics







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As a side note.



I completly deplore the way the car is coming out. I say deplore because i dont have my thesarus handy and cant think up a stronger word than hate. This car is completly the opposite of what i wanted to build when i began this project. It has snoballed in to a wide body fiberglass hunk of i dont know what. Some of you may think it looks good, im on the fence about it. Once its done it will probably be up for sale.

[PITCH]

I'de keep the kouki front bumper. Put back on the Navan sides and rear valence.

The O.G Labs kinda throws the front off. Unless you add a gReddy front Kouki lip.

[gsracer]

forgot to mention, ordered a greddy kouki font lip, its not here yet though

[s14unimog]

Props for the paint job but I think I'm going to side with you on this one. Why did you do this to your car, it was sooooo beautiful! I love the clean OEM aero look you had before. Its the same look my car has!

I've got a few questions about the progress so far, Where is the core support and what happened to it getting welded in?

secondly, why are you still going this way with it, you're obviously unhappy so WTF?

[illvialuver]

looking good keep it up. I would do it myself but my friend is going ot do a backyard special for me too.

[bo2o]

your neibors must hate you.

[khilgers]

forgot to mention, ordered a greddy kouki font lip, its not here yet though

just be careful with it. Mine is currently 3 pieces, epoxied and zip tied together. Its a very strange plastic that they use, almost like PVC. No give, very brittle and loves to crack. Car looks great, keep up the good work.

[smellslikecurry]

more info on the car deck...did u build it yourself?
how are u painting on there without all kinds of dust and bugs getting on the paint

[OptionZero]

man, those bumpers ruined the car

would have liked to see the oem aero and wide fenders with your awesome wheels

bring 'em back, sell the origin

[96Turbo]

very very nice! I especially like your "semi-tubbed" wheel wells. they look clean, stock, but are functional. It's not too late to change out the rear bump & side skirts...don't give up on it!!

[gsracer]

getting there


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[kaje36]

they definitely looks good!


How are you doing the radiator support and what not? I saw early on you cut out the upper section after you replaced it.

[HyperTek]

awww i miss your zenki navan front!!!


looks good tho

[drftmark]

did you forget to mask the windsheild? Or did you want primer on it?

Car looks good, makes me want to paint my car.

[Om1kron]

yeah I missed that, you mentioned something about replacing the radiator support with one from the junkyard, but then you painted the engine bay i did not see a new radiator support welded to the engine bay, figured that would've made sense to weld that on before re-painting the engine bay since you have to sand off the paint you laid to re weld that support on, and now risk weld scars/spatter getting on the paint you laid down in there already.

I may be completely off, but how was that approached?

[Om1kron]

did you forget to mask the windsheild? Or did you want primer on it?

Car looks good, makes me want to paint my car.

the windshield looks fucked, still should've pulled it to paint the metal and get rid of any rust that may of built up from the shitty window seals on these cars.

[FRoSt415]

nothing a razor blade and some paint thinner cant cure on that windsheild. i did the same thing but i masked it. what happened was when my car was in the booth the newspaper got ripped and over spray got on my car windows. i used a razor blade and some 800 grit to sharpen the blade to not make any scratches on my windsheild.

[s13 @ fullboost]

Looks really good

[n_my_coupe]

OFF TOPIC....but just curious how your neighbors like the over spray on their windows lol.... good job bro looks real good be sure to post when all done

[blueshark123]

fyi steel wool works good to clean windshields also

[n_my_coupe]

IM SOOOOOOOOOOO JEALOUS nice nice nice

[Import_Prophetz]

that is a nice paint job, mostly without a booth.

[kaje36]

yeah I missed that, you mentioned something about replacing the radiator support with one from the junkyard, but then you painted the engine bay i did not see a new radiator support welded to the engine bay,


The lower portion of the radiator support was welded into place, but not the upper... the upper portion got completely cut off.

[romeobrood]

you didnt have any dust issues?

[boosted98gst]

I paint for a living and it looks to be a decent job for being outside, with the heat out there im sure the flash off time for the paint and clear is super fast, so most stuff does not have time to stick to the clear and paint.
I know how you feel about the whole fiber glass issues, man I ended up doing the same thing to my coupe, going to far , everyone loves how it looks but i also am not happy and wish I kept it how it was. I dont care what anyone says I see paint and body work everyday eventhe best products that are FRP are janky in my book. Good luck with it man .

[gsracer]

I didnt have any dust issues, as boosted98 said the temperature was so hot the paint flashed very fast. In fact the day i painted the temperature was about 100 even with the high temp hardner i had trouble getting the clear to flow.

And yes the windshield is cracked.... again.

As for the radiator support , i welded in the lower portion and made the upper portion removable as to make it easier to take the engine in and out. I will have the upper portion powder coated flat black.

[TougeLabs]

Great job man car is looking really nice...

[NemeGuero]

shoulda stayed znki....

[zaquanh]

what kind of hood is on ur car

[WangonwWarrior]

propd on the attention to detail

[Om1kron]

As for the radiator support , i welded in the lower portion and made the upper portion removable as to make it easier to take the engine in and out. I will have the upper portion powder coated flat black.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!

[kaje36]

As for the radiator support , i welded in the lower portion and made the upper portion removable as to make it easier to take the engine in and out. I will have the upper portion powder coated flat black.

I definitely want to know a lot more about this! I had a feeling that is what you were doing, I have been working on the same project myself, and I would love to know how to are planing to do it. if you got some time IM me kajeqxs

[rb25crazy]

hey i have a question bout air guns.

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=47016

i just bought that air gun it doesn't say hlvp but, it does work my compressor it has the amount of cfm it needs.

it's 50-70 psi is this range to high for automotive paint? or it wouldn't matter?

i see that a lot of automotive spray hlvp guns are around the range of 40psi

would this make my gun useless for automotive paint?


thanks

[idahotuner]

my method for painting my car is to have my dad do it for me lol. worked on my integra and hopefully on my 240. should be painted before the end of the week

[s14unimog]

hey i have a question bout air guns.

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=47016

i just bought that air gun it doesn't say hlvp but, it does work my compressor it has the amount of cfm it needs.

it's 50-70 psi is this range to high for automotive paint? or it wouldn't matter?

i see that a lot of automotive spray hlvp guns are around the range of 40psi

would this make my gun useless for automotive paint?


thanks

there isn't a "HLVP"

Its either High Volume Low Pressure (HVLP)

OR

Low Volume High Pressure. (LVHP)

[rb25crazy]

yea yea it's just a typo you know what i mean. so aside from the grammar police my question still didn't get answered

[alkemyst]

yea yea it's just a typo you know what i mean. so aside from the grammar police my question still didn't get answered

yeah fuck those idiots.

HVLP Spray Gun Setup (http://www.purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/techinfo/HVLPspraygun.html)

I looked it up as I am looking for a gun too. Costco had a setup for $79 with both types of guns included I think. I was in a rush and will look at it this weekend.

It compares to the 43430 and 38308 guns. AFAIK though it's just a basic gravity feed....it can be adapted.

[rb25crazy]

well, i'm going to get this hvlp gun Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=90977)

since the other one you listed has a way to high cfm for my compressor to do it =( i got this compressor to Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=90234)

not bad for the price. like 200+ for the whole set up.

paints hella expensive though, even for an oem color code. anyone know of a place that has the hook up?

[95KA-Turbo]

Any more progress on paint? I was realllllllllly hoping to see OEM S14 aero on wide body....so I could be forced to spend too much money on wide body and new wheels for my car, lol

[silpena]

i can sorta get a hook up on paint at a store i go to get supplies. Oh and rb25crazy the reason ur gun says 50-70 is becuase its a normal gun. hvlps just have a high efficany tip that helps waste less materials. They operate the same but a lower velocity but same volume of paint so more gets on your ride and not in the air. Your gun is good but i would get another one just to have designated guns. One for paint and one for clear. Helps save time and hassel.

[gsracer]

Well as we continue along on year 2 of this project, i got bored of fucking with the engine and accessories and decided to get over my depression of working on this car and start on the body work again. Ill be updating this thread regularly as i finish here shortly.

You cant tell from the pictures but i stripped all the primer off the wide body panels after i realized they had more waves than the pacific ocean. Where you see them here is after about 20-25 hours ( weekends and nights only) of filling and blocking. I almost went thru to raw fiberglass in places but the end was worth it, the panel for the most part is straight as an arrow.



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I also took the chance to get the roof done while i was doing the quarters so i could prime everything and there would be no tape. The black streaks you see here are the "guide coat" this helps you figure out where the high and low spots are.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6730.jpg



I decided since i had sanded so much of the gel coat off, that it was better to use an epoxy primer because it pretty much bonds to the substrate and seals it from being able to absorb anything later. Ie moisture, paint etc. I just shot everything with it. 2 coats. When mixing epoxy primer its important to follow the instructions very carefully, it mixes just like epoxy glue. 1 part primer and 1 part catalyst. The particular one i used was dupont and after it mixed you have to leave it sit for half to one hour so it could induct, then let it dry for at least 1 hour before you spray anything on top of it.


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After the epoxy was dried, i waited 3 hours just to be safe. I shot 3 coats of 2k urethane primer, for final sanding. The car is pretty straight as it is, these final coats will ensure it is a show car finish i will destroy on a track somewhere.


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From here i will move on to the doors and trunk, look for those next weekend hopefully

[Om1kron]

awesome, resubscribing.

[C-unit]

very nice..i wish I have the patient to do this!!

[silpena]

nice! glad to see ur project getting along. Are you gonna block and primer the roof again untill its straight? pick up some primer filler. Helps alot in blocking. Kinda cheating but helps alot if you want to reduce sanding and blocking over and over.

[opponheimer]

why didn't you paint the rad. support in the beginning?

[gsracer]

nice! glad to see ur project getting along. Are you gonna block and primer the roof again untill its straight? pick up some primer filler. Helps alot in blocking. Kinda cheating but helps alot if you want to reduce sanding and blocking over and over.



Up until this point


Roof has been blocked to 320 gonna final sand with 600 grit.

For the quarters i blocked 180 , 220 , 320, with filler at various stages. Now its gonna be blocked to 600 as well.

I will final block with 600 once everything else is primered and done.


why didn't you paint the rad. support in the beginning?

the bottom of the rad support is welded in place and painted, the top part is removable and will be powdercoated flat black.

[gsracer]

ok update

Got started on the trunk, took me a while to get it because of all the panel adhesive stuck on it from when i bonded the quarters and i used it as a bondo mixing board for a while lol.

Started sanding with 180 on the DA. Just to get the rough stuff off, not to much otherwise you will gouge the surface to much and have to do more sanding later.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6738.jpg


Now i put on the guide coat to show any high or low spots, use a contrasting color so its easier to tell. At this point i begin hand blocking with 320 grit wet.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6739.jpg


Heres some examples of low spots, the first pic was my dumbass pressing to hard on the DA.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6741.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6748.jpg



It is at this point you decide whether the low spots need filler or a high build primerm, mine are all pretty shallow so i should be able to get away with a high build primer and a little more sanding.

Heres a little trick, once the panel is blocked well throw some water on it and the water will sheet off the panel. This pretty much replicates what it looks like when it is painted so if you have any defects they will show up here, Once again this panel has been sanded and has no gloss just the water i poured on it.



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[Om1kron]

nice!!!!!............

[MisawaJason]

keep up the good work man

[CIutchCollidE]

Yo man, I read the whole thread. It was fun and interesting to read. Thanks for providing it. I hope everything works out well in the end for you.

[Devil Man]

looking good..... cant wait to see it painted


p.s. god do i love that exhaust set up everytime i see it

[Ailiaw]

Oh the job of sanding, sanding, sanding, sanding, filler, sanding, sanding, primer, filler, sanding, sanding ,sading primer, filler.

Reminds me of when we fixed my S14 after I put it through a garage.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/SloppyFoe/IMAGE_121.jpg
(those bondo spots on the roof are where it caved in )
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/SloppyFoe/IMAGE_111.jpg

Good job man, body work is tedious as hell.

[nor-caljdm]

very nice job man.
one question how long did your paint take to dry out side and did u get any dirt on your paint because u did it outside?

[gsracer]

outside a base coat and clearcoat at my temperature of 90+degrees when i painted was dry to the touch in about 4 hours, a little bit of debris can not be avoided, i just dont paint on windy days and is stuff does get in i just sand it out.

anyways todays progress, and yes today was windy, but primer only..




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[punxva]

looks like your doing it very legit man, i dont really have pics of helping my roommate paint his rolla, just some wip ones...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c28/punxva/devo/DSC_0015copy.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c28/punxva/devo/DSC_0020copy.jpg

btw we both do bodywork for a living, and 2k primer and EverCoat filler is the way to go.

edit found some finished ones.... really small he took with his phone at work...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/turbomigo/8-1.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/turbomigo/7.jpg

+ subscribed...

[nor-caljdm]

very nice once again good job!!
cant wait to see when it looks like when done

[opponheimer]

more more!

[gsracer]

just to update, got some body work done on the doors, and still working on the fenders. Everything else is pretty much done. Trying to get it painted and done in the next 10 days, i wanted to paint in this weekend but the temperature here in miami took a nose dive to 68 degrees, its freezing haha.

My biggest dilema is I am having second thoughts about painting the car the gunmetal/gold color. I really want to paint it mercedes mars red or jet black. I just dont think the car will look good in red and black might show defects if i missed any.

Also im wondering if i should just spray the Carbon fiber hood, what do you guys think. I already have the paint but if im gonna change my mind now is the time. Other color suggestions are welcome.

[Om1kron]

paint match the fucking hood!!! it's not 1999 anymore brotha!!! nobody cares about carbon fiber parts anymore unless your whole car is made of dry carbon!

I personally would paint it black if it were up to me... Black 240's are sick as fuck and granted you may see the imperfections in the paint because YOU painted and prepped it... Nobody else would know where to look, I already know your style so you would wet sand and post prep that shit like it was nobodies business. It may bother you that your car is two tone, it may not who knows... Seems to be the jazz these days with 240's

[tramp_drift240]

i always end up stumbling upon threads like this that really make me want to have a go at painting my coupe myself.

ive got a craftsman HVLP i believe, and a compressor and such. i just need the right place to do it. and the right weather.

[Bushido]

car is coming along nicely.

but why spend so much effort on getting the fenders perfect and not bother molding them in?

[silpena]

becuase if he molds the fenders in to to bumper it will just crack in a couple of days.....no worth it at all unless the car just sits there all day for shows.

[soshweet]

Nice job. That Corolla looks good too. What brand of clear coat did you use?

[xs240]

I wish i had a house and a garage to do this myself and not at friend's garages lol...

[gsracer]

Fixing some dents in the doors from when the car port fell on my car last tropical storm


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My favoirte, i got a new gun a devilbiss gfg670 plus gun. Its the shit, cant wait to see how it sprays.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6778.jpg

[silpena]

oommmg u got that gun u bastard. That is my next gun for clearing. Pair it up with a minillium(sp) gti for base and u got a bad ass set up for the price. I cant wait to get mine soon or ill pick u a lph400 from iwata. I sold my lph100 since it was too small for bigger cars. Tell me how it works man. Heard that guns clears so good but you have to move quick since its made for fast production work. I dont think i would use it for bases unless ur using solid colors since the mattalics might bounce around from the high pressure efficancy. Such a nice gun....

bottom line just let me know how u like it. I have used devilbiss guns and love them but not as much as sata and iwata though.
btw dude... tape off the molding on the window man before u sand that area. So you dont scratch the molding or put body filler on it unless your replacing it.

[babowc]

I just painted my car jet black and gold pearl..

it's my second time painting a car and first using base/clear and i got a couple runs in the clear.

All i'd have to say is just take your time with everything.. I got rushed because the shop I was working out of gave me a deadline and my bodywork on the doors weren't 100% and it showed right through. :(

I'd like to see where this turns out!
Your car was very sexy in zenki too...

[gsracer]

btw dude... tape off the molding on the window man before u sand that area. So you dont scratch the molding or put body filler on it unless your replacing it.



Yea i still have to take the door apart, so i can sand it up there.

After dicking around with the origin front fenders for a while, i finnally solved the problem, drove about 45 minutes and bought oem kouki fenders problem solved.




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6780.jpg


Wait some one told me 18 by 10 +18 with a 275 would fit stock fenders up front, fuck....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6781.jpg


Better roll them


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6783.jpg


Much better


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6785.jpg



Put a little ding when the hammer slipped, got to fix now.


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It was getting late so i didnt take pics of the pass side, but that one came out perfect with no dings. Much much happier than with the fiberglass fenders that would have taken me 2 weekends to get striaght. With the oem it took me longer to go drive and get them then to actually do the body work after i pulled them.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6789.jpg

[xs240]

why did u get rid of the origin fenders?

[gsracer]

because the sucked hard money c@ck.

The fitment was way off, spider cracks every where, dome parts didnt even have fiberglasss just resin, wavy, the list goes on and on

[keMz]

mean, so what u run... 18x10s in the front??

[gsracer]

yea

18 by 10 front 275
18 by 11 rear 315

[Kuzumi]

my friend sprayed my car with that gun. only thing is that we did it at night and the plastic fell onto it when we finished. gotta re spray it :(

[silpena]

^^^ wow that sucks. I would just rent a booth if u can find one for cheap just for a day. I would get a true down draft with a curing system.

[silpena]

because the sucked hard money c@ck.

The fitment was way off, spider cracks every where, dome parts didnt even have fiberglasss just resin, wavy, the list goes on and on

so u got rid the orgin fenders that you tried to fixed?? did you sell them or trash them? Didnt work like i told you to??? If u still have i might take them and fix them then sell them lol. I am bored and like doing fiber glass work....

[Om1kron]

I tried fitting my 18x10's in the front... however I couldn't turn the wheels outward without destroying my vertex side skirts.

[opponheimer]

dude you're takin forever!! finish!!! Did you not like the harbor freight gun?

[gsracer]

Yea, i know lol .

Dont forget i took like a 3.5 month hiatus and did chassis work, and an engine swap.

THe harbor frieght gun does not atomize the paint nearly as well as the devilbiss gun resulting in far less orange peel in the final finish.

[Mott6904]

Damn i wish i could do some paint work. I just wrecked my car so i might try my hand at it. I think im going to try and find a bodywork/paint work for dummies book. looking good so far

[longfellow]

Looks good, I think your car would look good in a dark metalic red. But the Gunmetal/Gold would look sweet as well.

I'll be repainting my car here soon after I finish fixing the front end damage and tubs. Im not 18x10's up front cool, but I still smack the inner fenders pretty nasty under suspension compression so while I'm doing all this work might as well fix that problem as well.

This is the hell I'm going through;
S14 Reconstruction; 56k No. - Tampa Racing (http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/nissan-infiniti-tech/536641-s14-reconstruction-56k-no.html)

[gsracer]

Ok, Im pretty much ready for paint, Got the doors taken care of today, the front fenders are done, the rear 1/4s are done, trunk bumpers etc...

Im just hung up on how to taclke this, I want to paint the car in pieces so that i wont have any tape lines anywhere but i dont have enough room to do it all at once. So either i paint the doors and rear body one day and the front fenders and bumper the next, or i have to paint the jambs assemble the car then paint it all at one time. People keep telling me the metallic wont match if i paint it seperatly.

Next dilema is the damn color, i dont know what i was thinking when i picked this color out, im seriously contemplating painting this fucker black or even red.


This is the color i had picked originally and bought a gallon of paint for.

its just so bland, last year i liked it this year what ever, its just got such a brown bleh thing going on ,



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anyway heres the doors got all the dings and dents out finnally...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6803.jpg

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[Kuzumi]

when you sand on larger pieces are you making X shapes or what?

[Om1kron]

drill hole, pull dent, fill, sand?

[gsracer]

when you sand on larger pieces are you making X shapes or what?



Yes i am, in this pictop you can see the pattern

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6795.jpg

[gsracer]

drill hole, pull dent, fill, sand?

normally yes, but since i can access the rear to these i just hammer and dolly them as straight as possible and fill, as you can see towards the end there was very little fill needed even though i applied alot, if this was a bigger panel id break out the shrinking hammer and fix it right but since they where small door dings i just filled them for sake of quickness.

[Om1kron]

ah cool, I don't know dick about body work, that's my little brothers department.

[Devil Man]

question, which i cant seem to ever get my head around. what are the specs of your wheels i would love to run larger tires on the front of my s13 but i cant do to the fact that they set up camp right next to my coils. i have rolled and pulled the fenders but it doesnt seem like i can fit more then 235's with my wheels. any in-site as to how you do this cause i would love to run larger tires. nice body work and all that jazz... i bet your neighbor must love you haha..

[gsracer]

Did a test spray on one of the origin fenders, just to see how i like the color and how the new gun shoots. Man o man, blows that harbor FRIGHT gun out of the water. Did this all over the cours of about 1.5 hours, at dusk and finished up at night.

Huge 13 inch plus size fan, lays down basecoat and clear like glass, super fast to paint with. And when i say glass i mean like glass virtually no orange peel even in my amatuer hands.

Here is the fender, i have not wet sanded buffed or even prepped this fender, all i did was wipe it down with a scuff pad and fiberglass cleaner, sealed it, 3 coats of base 3 coats of clear. Enjoy



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_6814.jpg

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HEre is with the flash so you can see the metallics pop


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[Ninjabread]

Holy shit!!

[crono72000]

nice work ! im guna have to get me a decent gun

[Om1kron]

awesome sauce homie!

[sstraight]

dang..lookin good man. i wouldve guessed u were a pro. u should open ur own body shop lol. just make sure that u let the customers kno that u take ur time lol. at least theyll kno its perfect

[silpena]

thats it i know which gun i am buying next gti/ gfg plus! I allways heard good things about the gfg in laying clear like a champ. Even better than satas. You know you can buy a atmosphere cap pressure guage so you can have a constant amount of psi coming out of your gun when you spray different parts. Other than that just remember to leave your gun at the same fan pattern and trigger settings and you should no issues blending. Jambs dont matter when blending on a whole new car. Just doing things like fenders, hood, quarter that matter.

I've told ppl here numorous times habor freight sucks and finally someone here used a good gun and it proves they do suck. I have a devilbiss gun for primer and an iwata lph100 for painting. Gonna get a new set up soon. Either lph400 paired with satajet RP or the devilbiss setup. Btw how much did the guns run you new? around 400-600?

[gsracer]

300.00 shipped for the plus brand new withi 3 tips, if you want pm me and ill point you in the right direction.

[gsracer]

Here it is on the car, for me the jury is still out on the color. It sure is a shiny turd though.

I guess what i dont like about it is it just is so dull, i wanted something that would pop more I guess. Believe it or not i think it looks better at night.

Im thinking in order of importance

1. Super gloss black
2. Mercedes AMG silver
3. Mazda 3 red
4. The color I have now ( indium grey ) mercedes

Any suggestions guys?? the car will be painted this coming friday come hell or high water. Just sucks i may have to buy a different color paint, after already spending 250 for the gallon of this one.




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[silpena]

300 bleh i would just get the gun itself and 3m pps system with it. The cup alone is like 120.00. I usally get them slightly used from ebay. Never got a bad one yet or i just rebuild them myself.

[Om1kron]

I say paint the car that color, you will appreciate how it looks on the car once it's done....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/om1kron/greycar.jpg

especially in the sun... a dark grey isn't going to pop it's going to look black and then have the gray lay on top of it where the sun hits. You get the best of both worlds, a car that looks black but has an awesome color where the sun hits.

Another great color for this is Dark Amethyst Pearl.

http://www.jtuned.com/wire/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/015.jpg

but hey I personally dig the color you're going to paint it, you want it to pop more, polish your wheels. LOL!

[xs240]

Shouldn't have went metallic, honestly I found the 90s metallic paint fad really lame. I know EXTREME flakes and metallics have been raped to death with 'drift cars' but honestly... what is there to it? It's an excuse for a poor paint job (not saying yours is).

Pure colors like pure blackest black, pure redest red (like ferrari red) with proper polishing jobs are where it's at imho... when you can see yourself as in a mirror... while looking wet.

[gsracer]

Man i never thought this would be such a hard choice to make.

If this wasnt so subjective it would be a no brianer for me. IE if black was faster than red it would be a no brainer lol. Im leaning towards a gunmetal right now.

In either case come hell or high water the car will be painted on thurday or friday, i have both days off of work and the car is ready to go. Ill probably pick the color at the last minute and end up regretting it later like i always do when i have a hard choice lol. What can you do, stay tuned.

[xs240]

Just for inspiration, the cheapest blackest black that can be had (this is a secret :P)

Examples of a good choice of blackest black pure colors:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/1987_Buick_Grand_National.jpg/800px-1987_Buick_Grand_National.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/1987_Buick_Grand_National.jpg/800px-1987_Buick_Grand_National.jpg
http://www.rayskillmanclassiccars.com/images/cars/1987%20BUICK%20REGAL%20GRAND%20NATIONAL%20BLACK%20 R302%20002.jpg
http://www.motorcities.com/media/image/640/03IOC263406903A/1987-Buick-Grand-National-GNX-black-A.jpeg
http://www.shophotrods.org/CarAdPhotos/GM/Buick%20photos/S87GNX.jpg
http://www.carfolio.com/images/dbimages/zgas/models/id/9151/a_gnx_from_www.ascglobal.com.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/mrbuick/50_3.jpg
http://www.gmphotostore.com/images/53217634_pr.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q42/JayDiv/buickGNX.jpg
http://www.suburbanradio.com/gnx1.jpg
http://www.midwestcruise.com/images/Buick.jpg
http://www.prattslawn.com/gn/pictures/gnx02.jpg
I had an old man who had a GNX in my family's old building when I was still in high school heh'

It's a nice to find blackest black that can be had, I will paint my hatch with this.

[gsracer]

yes black is definitly the cheapest color especially in chromabase coming in at 170 a gallon with red being the most expensive just shy of 400.00

Like i posted before im just worried about any waves that might show up due to something i may have missed in the prep that is keeping me away from black. Thats where metallics help.

Anyone know of a nice metallic black ( say with silver metallics).

[gunluvS14]

dang, nice progress

[Om1kron]

yes black is definitly the cheapest color especially in chromabase coming in at 170 a gallon with red being the most expensive just shy of 400.00

Like i posted before im just worried about any waves that might show up due to something i may have missed in the prep that is keeping me away from black. Thats where metallics help.

Anyone know of a nice metallic black ( say with silver metallics).

Nighthawk Black Pearl from honda.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/johnny--2k/05TL/IMG_2021.jpg

They suck at capturing the pearl but yeah.

My car was the same color, but they left out the pearl...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/om1kron/My%20Cars/1996%20240sx%20Kouki/2008-03-18%20-%20the%20purchase/blackkouki2.jpg

The prep job that was done was horrible and the paint ended up cracking off in sections, hence the repaint.

[gsracer]

That looks good, i may have to see it in person.

I just saw a new subaru sti , in dark grey metallic code 61k, and that shit looked hot. Im liking that one.

[Om1kron]

Yeah the pearls in nighthawk are silver and blue.

[articdragon192]

What about the gunmetal off an R32. I forget the exact color, but it's a nice metallic gunmetal with flakes in it. Great color!

[omgjacki]

This is my friend Ryan's STi. I'm not sure what the actual color is, but we're calling it Anthracite. I want to go with this for mine. Maybe darker. I thought I'd share this with you. I know you mentioned a gunmetal color, this seems to be a little lighter, though.

http://www.mikespock.com/sog14.jpg

http://www.mikespock.com/sog12.jpg


http://www.mikespock.com/sog13.jpg

[hybrid_eg]

My .02 cents, I always like to stick with light colors, espeically the AMG silver so sexy.. I think it will look perfect on the car..

plus mad props to you for all the DIY work, simply unbelievable! I wish i was your neighbor, I would be asking you for a paintjob! seriously!

[gsracer]

well bad news for me, Stuff came up at work so i wont be able to take weds, thurs, and friday off to finish the car, so i wont be painting this week. I guess ill do the backs of the doors and trunk this weekend and see when i can reschedule my days off to finish.

[SleepySR]

early z32's had a black pearl paint , diamond black pearl .code 732 , ppg #9762 ( pulled from my PPG chip book from my shop)
its got a silver cast to it but still looks deep black.

[INeedNewTires]

yes black is definitly the cheapest color especially in chromabase coming in at 170 a gallon with red being the most expensive just shy of 400.00

Like i posted before im just worried about any waves that might show up due to something i may have missed in the prep that is keeping me away from black. Thats where metallics help.

Anyone know of a nice metallic black ( say with silver metallics).


Dude first off great thread, cant believe i havent come across it sooner! loved the Zenki with stock aero but awesome wheels.... also loved the OEM green, however it looked more like DN1 (kouki green) but i'm a little biased as thats my color, and i love it.

A really nice black metallic thats in the nissan family is black onyx from the infiniti QX56 its paint code G10 its got silver and rainbow metallic flakes. Pretty sweet color. heres a close up from when my body shop (at work) let me design a G37 two tone

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee309/ineednewtires/Car%20Pics/DSCN2949.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee309/ineednewtires/Car%20Pics/DSCN2947.jpg

and the final product, some of you will hate it, others might like it but thats a different thread...

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee309/ineednewtires/Car%20Pics/DSCN2943.jpg

Anyway i vote you paint it something brigher than the turd brown, black is always classic and nice, but its been done. Ferrari red or lambo orange pearl would be sick, but i dont know if thats what your going for. Either way i can tell your a perfectionist so gloss (non-metallic) colors would be harder, but it seems like you've put in enough prep work to make it fine, and i know that anyone other than yourself isint going to see any minor flaws..... Plus like you keep saying your just going to beat it up anyway so fuggit, go with what you like but keep it simple enough that you will be okay with re-doing it multiple times over. Cant wait to see the finished product.

oh and i'll buy your over fenders if you're done with em and wanna cut me a good deal. LMK

[gsracer]

shot another test panel with a black pearl that i sort of made a special mix of....




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_6847.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_6848.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_6850.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_6851.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_6854.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_6855.jpg

[hybrid_eg]

Hey can i come over and have you spray my car? awesome work man!

[Om1kron]

I think it looks good but try to refrain on a pearl overload... your car is going to look like a piece of deli meat, that reflective iron glaze you see on turkey cutlets or some shit lol.

[articdragon192]

732 Black Pearl Metallic
Thats the name and paint code. Subtle sparkle in it. Looks amazing.

[drftwerks]

i dunno, but paint the carbon.

[gsracer]

While i wait for the weather to clear up and some time off ive been double checking my body work. I posted earlier but this is an old tirck where you wet the sanded panel down and you get to see how it looks painted.




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6861.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6862.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6863.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6865.jpg






How a G picks the color to paint his car


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6867.jpg

[Om1kron]

red it is? LOL!!!

[alkemyst]

actually a real G puts 12 or so women in a dark room...whoever after the money shot is made, the light go on.

That's the color you go with...if the carpet doesn't match the drapes you do a two tone.

[gsracer]

Paintin the car... paintin the car.

pics soon

[gsracer]

Ok well here goes

Woke up this morning and built a spray booth.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6870.jpg


Got a fan with a filter to blow in fresh air


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6871.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6884.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6910.jpg




Here is the before, it took almost 1.5 hours to tape this car up, i hated it lol...



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6873.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6874.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6875.jpg


Gave it a coat of sealer


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6878.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6879.jpg



1st thru 3rd coat of jet black


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6880.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6881.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6882.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6886.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6888.jpg


1st coat of clear

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6893.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6896.jpg




2nd and 3rd coat of clear

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6898.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6899.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6901.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6903.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6905.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6907.jpg




Thanks for looking


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6897.jpg

[turtle m3th]

wow! came out great! I can't wait to see some finished pictures out in the sun!

[s13dan]

Im geussing that is the sealer.. You know that primer is very porose and acts like a sponge.. rain water=bad thing. BUT it looks great! keeps us posted.

[silpena]

love it man! i'm guessing that gun is dooing wonders huh? i'm getting one also soon. Cant wait to see pics in the sun.

[gsracer]

pushed the car out for a bit today, no sun at the time overcast but heres the pics


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6916.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6920.jpg



Also got the fenders and doors done as well...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6925.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6926.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6930.jpg

[bardabe]

Looks awesome. man good job. wish i had patience for body work lol

[Tearlessj]

Hey man I sent you a PM regarding paint guns. You have inspired me. What gun are you using to prime?

[Greddy323]

wo wee wee woo my name a bor-rat
looks flunkin good, paint my car i hate body work

[93superHICAS]

what kinda sealer did you use, is it the same as primer?
anydifference?

[Slammed180]

If you were to guess, how many hours did you put into this?
Also what would be your cost for materials?

[gsracer]

Heres some pics



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6934.jpg

[renegade_ewok]

So you removed all the molding around the glass? Did you do this yourself? I want to get a shell and paint it this summer, so I was wondering if there is any way to get around taking off the glass entirely. Can one just remove the molding and leave the glass and simply taping that up?

[Om1kron]

godamnit you didn't paint your hood!!! *shakes fist*

[blueshark123]

Funny how your thread title was almost the total opposite of how u infact painted it. Sick job

[dori_sil8t]

car looks awsome man good stuff turnd out better then mine
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii46/dori_240sx/101.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii46/dori_240sx/109.jpg
im gonna try again but with a different colour. any tips

[Z33dori]

do go flat... lol


gracer, car looks good. Can't wait to see omse pics once the good ole florida sun breaks out in full stride.

ps. dope maro in the back. lol

[Om1kron]

do go flat... lol


this is the only tip necessary!

[silpena]

looks good man, guessing u havent cut'n'buffed yet? man, i think ill finally redo my car again and get her pretty again this year.

[burnsauto]

car looks awsome man good stuff turnd out better then mine
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii46/dori_240sx/101.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii46/dori_240sx/109.jpg
im gonna try again but with a different colour. any tips

was that supposed to be a flat finish? :keke:

waay too much dryspray. You're either holding the gun too far away, or you're moving too quickly. Also, watch your overlap...its hard to see from the pics but your hood may be sporting some bad tiger stripes. How many coats of clear did you give it?

I saw some guys asking about primer guns, I'm a fan of the GTI primer guns, and I usually use a SATA HVLP 3000 for base/clear (1.3 spray nozzle on average, every paint manufacturer has a tip size they recommend) . Or sometimes a SATA Jet 3000 RP for clear, that gun lays clear on nice and smooth, You just have to be a little bit quicker with your pace when using the RP +clear.

[dori_sil8t]

no clear. after i drop a peice of plastic on the paint and it chipd off. i gave up

[Tearlessj]

In that case it might not look so bad with clear.

About the spray guns, I'm buying a Devilbiss GFG670 this weekend with the dekup system. At first I was thinking of using a cheap HF gun to lay the primer. I'm not really sure anymore since I dont want to ruin the final finish.

[MisawaJason]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6934.jpg

Is he eyeing your car from a future competition standpoint? "my camaro will smoke your POS" haha

Car looks good man

[Om1kron]

probably his dad.

[xs240]

you went black :D

Congratulations :D

The car is officially hot

[gsracer]

godamnit you didn't paint your hood!!! *shakes fist*

I will when i can feel my hands again, sanding has me numb..


probably his dad.

yea thats the old man



Started some of the wet sanding and buffing today

mirror? you decide..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6939.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6945.jpg

[97nismo]

wow, looks great still unsure why the engine bay and interior is different from the outside of the car??

[JRas]

paint looks amazing

suddenly curious to know what it would be like to drive without a windshield on the freeway..

[silpena]

In that case it might not look so bad with clear.

About the spray guns, I'm buying a Devilbiss GFG670 this weekend with the dekup system. At first I was thinking of using a cheap HF gun to lay the primer. I'm not really sure anymore since I dont want to ruin the final finish.

if u want a good primer gun, i would recommend the pri gun from devilbiss. Lays primer so well, it'll reduce prep and sanding. Get gfg plus for clear, gti millenium for base. Alot of guns but designated guns are better. I'd go with dekups system or 3mm pps system. Works awsome for painting over head or odd angles. I wish i could afford sata jet...... 3000 series with 1.3-1.4 tip and rp with 1.4 tip would be my choice.

[boske]

In that case it might not look so bad with clear.

About the spray guns, I'm buying a Devilbiss GFG670 this weekend with the dekup system. At first I was thinking of using a cheap HF gun to lay the primer. I'm not really sure anymore since I dont want to ruin the final finish.

I wouldn't waste your time with the harbor freight guns. I have tried a few, really bad orange-peel from the first one I bought, was about $50 I think. I used it for a long time spraying the primer for bedliners, still works to this day, but the paint cup lid broke so I stopped using it. I bought their gun on sale for $12.99, I just wanted a new cup for my other gun. The 13 dollar gun sprayed primer GREAT, just as nice as my Iwata. The thing started falling apart in the middle of spraying, and the paint cup broke like my last one. Now I don't use either of them, waste of $63.

[Tearlessj]

Wow thats a good amount of money. I originally planned on spending around $350 for any kind of spray guns I would need. With the prime gun, I'm looking at about $550 total. I might have to rethink my plans. =/

[driven_]

my good sir. i like your style.
keep it up.
one day mines shall be black.. or if i'm lazy.. rustoleum white... LOL.

[dori_sil8t]

In that case it might not look so bad with clear.

About the spray guns, I'm buying a Devilbiss GFG670 this weekend with the dekup system. At first I was thinking of using a cheap HF gun to lay the primer. I'm not really sure anymore since I dont want to ruin the final finish.

i used a combo of two different guns grav and suction i had a easier time with the suction cuz it laid the paint wider. so it was easier to overlap. keep in mind i have no clue what im doing and i used the duplicolour easy to spray paint. also a 5 gallon comp with no water separator.

[soldiaboy]

dude you are the fucking man, always looked up to your car, seen you around before at countyline

looks great

[iwishiwas-all*]

excellent job, how much to spray my ride, lol?

[opponheimer]

your exhaust is crazy

[kalypso123]

wow your killin it

[sc ka24e]

So you removed all the molding around the glass? Did you do this yourself? I want to get a shell and paint it this summer, so I was wondering if there is any way to get around taking off the glass entirely. Can one just remove the molding and leave the glass and simply taping that up?

how did u remove the rear side windows..????:naw:

[gsracer]

I removed them by cutting them out carefully, theres a tool that i bought to remove windows its air powered and sort of cuts them out. Yes you can paint around them but it is not the optimal way to do it..


Well started putting the bish back together..


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_69621.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6964.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6971.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6972.jpg

[dookiedang]

wow very nice! should start opening up a body shop lol, id deffinetely go to it. are you gonna keep the front bumper stock? or you already got a lip for it? dam v8 in s14 = sex!! although a fmic would look very nice with the car...hhmmmm should boost the vk45...:naughty:

[kalypso123]

black was the best choice,

ok so now... whats next

[renegade_ewok]

how did u remove the rear side windows..????:naw:
No, haven't touched them yet, just seeing how to do it...

[burnsauto]

glad to see you used 3M's cut/buff system. works really well..doesnt it? :)

[Tearlessj]

Wow thats a good amount of money. I originally planned on spending around $350 for any kind of spray guns I would need. With the prime gun, I'm looking at about $550 total. I might have to rethink my plans. =/
Screw it, getting both. Yay!

[boske]

Screw it, getting both. Yay!

I use an Iwata lph400 lv, 1.3 tip. Its an amazing all around gun, its really all you would need. Some people say its not the BEST for spraying metallic basecoats, but if I were to recommend one gun it would be an Iwata. I have a few guns but now I just use my Iwata and change the cup for spraying primer, just to keep one really clean for spraying paint.

[silpena]

ive used iwata also but i hate changing cups/tips and having to clean it. It is a great gun for base coats. Spreads mettalics great idk what ppl are talking about. Just parts sucks to get.

[norcal_black240]

Car is looking good, sick to see a diy paint job come out really clean.

[boske]

ive used iwata also but i hate changing cups/tips and having to clean it. It is a great gun for base coats. Spreads mettalics great idk what ppl are talking about. Just parts sucks to get.

Really? I have always thought it was the easiest gun to clean, it is completely chrome plated unlike most guns. Also, it only has the paint needle attached to the trigger, most guns have the needle and air valve you have to clean on the trigger. I don't change tips, but the paint cup comes off like any other gun.

[chairmnofthboard]

Awesome job. Nice to see people taking their time doing things right.

[gsracer]

Ok swo my hands where falling of wetsanding not ot mention i couldnt get it right, so i bought this kit from 3m called the perfect finish.

It comes with some 1500 / 3000 grit discs and an adapter for the DA sander, and 3 different compound, not to mention a dvd with instructions. It cost me 100 at the local body supply.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/3mstarterkit.jpg


All i can say is wow, what would have taken me 2-3 days i did in a matter of hours.

Here is the process with the 1500 disc on the sander


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_7001.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_7003.jpg


Wiped down and ready for 3000 grit, matte black FTL


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_7007.jpg


Here you can see the difference with the 3000 grit on the left and 1500 grit on the right. With the 3000 the surface already starts to shine before you even buff


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_7010.jpg


This is complete, my camera died on battery so i didnt get the in between steps


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_7014.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_7015.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_7017.jpg

[DreamN]

One word:


SICK!

[xs240]

I told you black looks amazing :D

[kalypso123]

i know little about body work, tell me

what benefit does this serve your new paint job.

[sidewayz240]

^^Takes out any orange peel and imperfections in the paint and makes it look like glass.

Looks amazing man, I might have to grab me one of those kits when/if I end up doing my car. Did you use up all the supplies that came with it?

[gsracer]

It came with a few sanding disc which i used all of, as for the compounds/glazes i have enough for probably 15 more cars.

[s13dan]

WOW, its really coming together now. Looks great.

[minuszero_315]

dude like 500 ppl have said already, looks amazingly fresh...dont think anyone has used that one yet

[hybrid_eg]

i'm seriously driving to FL for you to paint my car! hahaha

but on a sidenote, 3M stuff is amazing especially all of their glazing! I used to do auto detailing for years and stuck with their compounds for hard to do jobs and cars that really had oxidized paint where you just have to wipe some clear off to get the shine.. for all that you have done at home, amazing!!

[ze12o]

I can see the size of your arms now from all the sanding lmao. very nice finish big big props.

[rican_nick]

wow the paint looks great.. good job man!

[ms!3]

looks awesome! black is the way to go.

did you not have to wetsand in between coats?

[gsracer]

nope wetsanding between coats was not needed

[ms!3]

maybe thats just spray paint jobs. haha

car looks awesome though. kept up with your car the past couple of years.

[nrmskate]

I just bought a couple of guns today.

HPLV With a 1.4 tip. And a smaller one that has a 1.0 tip (HPLV)

Hopefully these work just as good as yours did.

I really want the Sata 3000 but that shits expensive

[nieko]

your lame.

you live in miami.

i would pay to paint my car haah

good shit man

[silpena]

Really? I have always thought it was the easiest gun to clean, it is completely chrome plated unlike most guns. Also, it only has the paint needle attached to the trigger, most guns have the needle and air valve you have to clean on the trigger. I don't change tips, but the paint cup comes off like any other gun.
yeah the chrome plating does it make it easy to clean dont worry about it since i never submerge my guns in lacquer thinner AT ALL. I usally clean the cups first then run clean lacquer untill it turns clear(no need to take out the needle just clean the passagw where material flows through). . I just hate having to make sure all of the material is out between sealer, bases, clears. Wastes time and cuase a chemical or aheadsion problems in the feature if ur not on one system.

to op man the car came out looking great after the cut n' buff. Now the gay parts comes with having as black sexy car... keeping it clean and swirl free and driving it in the summer ha ha ha.

[s14freak]

any updates? I'd love to see this thing finished.

[s13tilldeath*]

nice thread bro and good job on the paint....

[gsracer]

Yea its done, i still need to get a front lip and do something in the rear but paint and bodt wise im good. Concentrating on another project now, i may be posting shortly.

Heres pics



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_7090.jpg


LOL is that a skyline motor?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/miami86/HMSW/29.jpg

MY FAV

http://pics.shorty.org/files/12/koni%20cup/DSC_0211.jpg

http://pics.shorty.org/files/12/koni%20cup/DSC_0187.jpg

http://pics.shorty.org/files/12/koni%20cup/DSC_0190.jpg

[240sxnlr]

This ride is sweet! I do however have one question. Why did you not blend in the overfenders on the rear? I am not critiqueing your choice, but just curious as to the reason.

[JRas]

your car is sick.. kinda miss the Zenki front end though :(

[gsracer]

Thanks!!! :)

I didnt mold the rear because this car is not a show bitch, it will get driven hard, and should anything happen i want to be able to replace/repair easily.

[240sxnlr]

ahhh I c, cool deal

[Leo-kun]

Sweet car bro!

Paint came out great!

[Tearlessj]

Screw it, getting both. Yay!
Just thought that I would update, I ordered a Devilbiss PRi primer gun from Spraygunworld a few months back. It ended up being a giant scam, there are plenty of reviews about people not receiving this items. I think it turned out that the owner of the site too a bunch of money and ran. Sucks, now I kinda lost the motivation to paint my car.

[s13silvia123]

i cant believe you painted your car outside man. isnt there any dust on your paint while you were painting or fell on your car when it was drying.

[d501]

I really enjoyed reading this thread, great job on the paint and bodywork

[zaquanh]

thanks this is super helpful

[eklips3]

wicked .. i will follow this thread step by step come spring time :)


..subscribed

[secondtonone317]

absolutely sick

I usually read these threads an never post but this deserves the thumbs up

[KoukiMonsta]

hey guys im looking to paint bumpers and skirts 97 nissan black. what all would i need to buy to do so(not including gun, compressor etc) like primer/paint/clear wise

whats a good place to buy from? thanks!

[duffman1278]

hey guys im looking to paint bumpers and skirts 97 nissan black. what all would i need to buy to do so(not including gun, compressor etc) like primer/paint/clear wise

whats a good place to buy from? thanks!

Are you serious? There's a million and one threads out there about painting your car/parts at home.

[gsracer]

bringing this up

Unfourtunatly i blew a tire out at 95 mph at it blew a big chunk of the wide body quarter panel (fiberglass) off the car. So i ordered a replacement and removed the old one and stuck it on the wall.


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well this happened


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/fix/23ca7a82.jpg




this hurt

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/fix/03a92413.jpg




i hate this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/fix/1b6f0a0e.jpg



this went on the wall

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/fix/6f8756b7.jpg




Lesson learned no more nankangs, back to hankook or falken for me

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/fix/30ab83d8.jpg



New panel instalation priming and sanding

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/CrashedAgain/100_1343.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/CrashedAgain/100_1344.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/CrashedAgain/100_1345.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/CrashedAgain/100_1348.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/CrashedAgain/100_1349.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/CrashedAgain/100_1351.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/CrashedAgain/100_1354.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/CrashedAgain/100_1383.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/CrashedAgain/100_1385.jpg





Ready for paint in the morning


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/80c68be2.jpg

[drftmark]

That sucks so hard,

nothing like finishing something, and then having to redo it all over again haha

[rollout240]

damn dude. that sucks. but it looks like you got everything under control man. props to you dude. and some heavy drifting. It's tight to see that your hard work gets put to work!! Power to ya man.

[JDM Sil4ty]

damn .. o well, atleast you still have a nice loooking pussymagnetcar .. haha
with soon to be new paint ..

[kam]

The same will happen again dude, you need to do something with your arches, like this:

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g158/P0l0200sxy/04102007946.jpg

[gsracer]

yea that would of been good, too late now lol




as if it never happened.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/CrashedAgain/100_1404.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/CrashedAgain/100_1405.jpg



Right out of the gun, devilbiss plus best gun ive ever owned.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/CrashedAgain/042a8f01.jpg

[PNgo12]

kinda random but.. you look a lot like jamie kennedy in that pic of yourself a couple pages back :P

[Nick_04K]

Do you have any link to the 3m kit you used? I can't seem to find it anywhere on the internet! :bash:

[Maximamike]

Do you have any link to the 3m kit you used? I can't seem to find it anywhere on the internet! :bash:

3M changed the name of the system a few months back that he may used. This is the current system that is available at any authorized body shop supplier. If you have any issues getting it, I can help you out with that. 3M? Perfect-It? Paint Finishing System - A fast and effective way to produce a swirl-free automotive finish US 3M (http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3MAutomotive/Aftermarket/Products/Featured_Products/Perfect-It/)

[BoxerJackJohnson]

S14 lookin Sweet

[240sxluver4life]

Man, your paint looks flawless! Mad props for actually completing your car unlike 50% of 240 owners who give up and sell it as a project. You happen to know what kinda power ypur putting down?

[redline240sx]

Wow, thats all I can say about this thread. I am on the verge on taking my car to the body shop, but after seeing this I think i might reconsider and paint the car myself!!! This thread is definetly a huge modivation to those who are stumble on painting their car themselves. Amazingggg body work man!!

[gsracer]

its actually pretty easy once you do it. Like i said, prior to this i had zero paint and body experience outside rattle canning a few things.

Just use quality materials, a decent gun and most importantly take your time, just the bodywork ( non paint portion ) took me 3 months the first time ( weekends mostly) because i knew if you dont get that part right you can lay the most beautiful paint in the world but it will still look like crap.

After the experience i could knock out a whole car with no major damage in a couple of weekends, hell when i redid the quarter panel it took basiclly 6 hrs.

[93nismo]

its beautiful.. :eek3: i hope mine comes out this good if/when i get around to restoring my s13. although if i get this 240z im going for that's going to get all of my attention. it looks amazing man. i just finished my training for collision and refinishing and that looks better then the cars that came out of our shop by far.