1997-1998 Front End Conversion [Archive] - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Grant

07-09-2002, 05:37 AM

Well I recently did the 1997-1998 conversion on the car. I thought I'd put down a list of what is needed and the lil modifications required to complete the installation.

The installation was quite simple took about 3 hours (2 people).

Parts Required from a 1997-1998:
Hood
Fenders
Headlight Assembly
Corner lights
Grille
Bumper reinforcement
Bumper cover
bottom fender lining (not necessary)

I suggest you have all the parts painted before installing.

Remove corner lights, headlights, and grille.

Remove turn signals and corner lights.

Remove or peel back fender lining on both sides

Remove all the bolts that hold the bumper cover to the bumper reinforcement (about 8 of them). there will also be two bolts on each side that hold the bumper cover to the fender (must be accesed from inside the fender.

Remove the bolts that attach the underbody plastic lining to the car.

Basically to remove the fenders there are 2 behind the doors (the bottom bolt must be accesed from inside the fender) and 3-4 bolts holding it to the car under the hood. (10mm bolts)

Remove the 4 bolts that hold the hood. Make sure you have someone help you hold the hood while unbolting.

Remove the 95-96 bumper reinforcement assembly.

Now install the new fenders, mounting points are exactly the same. You may need to realign the doors, most likely not.

Install and align the hood.

Now line up the lights, you'll notice the inner 2 bolts that hold the headlight are misaligned (only one hole fits, and trhe plastic stub on the light doesnt line up.), drill a new hole (using the hood to align the light).

Now you need to wire up the headlights. i think its a red and black lead. best way is to use a voltometer to test when you have the light on low beam to see if the lead is hot. if you have USDM light, you might not need to modify high beam wires. Once that is done, take headlights out again.

Now install the 1997-1998 bumper reinforcement assembly on the car

You may need to drill holes for the bumper retainer bracket.

Install the 97-98 bumper cover is is up to you if you want to put in the foam padding or not.

Install the 97-98 headlights and put the corner lights in.

Install the 1997-1998 Grille (it snaps into the headlights instead of bolting onto the bumper reinforcement like the 95-96 did.

Reinstall the turn signals and side markers

Put the Fender lining back into place

Put the underbody plastic lining

You'll notice the plastic lining that goes from bumper to wheelwell doesnt quite fit. its not necessary to get 97-98 one unless you want to. just take it out.

This should comeplete the install. and it should look like this:

http://home.earthlink.net/~stofer007/conversion.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~stofer007/conversion2.jpg

Thank you Jared (teampulse) for helping me with the install.

Danio

07-09-2002, 05:47 AM

Your car's beautiful. ;_; Hehheh I like how the hood's blue. ^_^

Grant

07-09-2002, 05:49 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Danio @ July 09 2002,04:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your car's beautiful. ;_; Hehheh I like how the hood's blue. ^_^</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Thank you..

I chose not the have the parts painted for now. I want to repaint my whole car that starfire blue or Toyota black (209).

sil80

07-09-2002, 11:59 AM

I went to your site and have to say your car looks a lot better with the S14b front end.
I have been thinking about doing the same to my S13 but not sure about the fitment though.

Very nice!!!!!

Grant

07-09-2002, 04:31 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sil80 @ July 09 2002,10:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I went to your site and have to say your car looks a lot better with the S14b front end.
I have been thinking about doing the same to my S13 but not sure about the fitment though.

Very nice!!!!!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
thanks. s14b actually refers to the old model (Before minor change).

but I dont like the A and be label...

basically older models are called zenki (first model)
new ones are called kouki (last model)

or s14 m/c

thats how i understand it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

SimpleS14

07-09-2002, 05:08 PM

Very very nice  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

Do you have any other pics of the install besides the finish product? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

I'm going to do the same thing, but on my own and I was looking more alittle more info. Actually I was waiting to see S14vaxlr8 do a write since he took tons of pics. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

BadMoJo

07-09-2002, 09:50 PM

That blue does look sweet. I have yet to see it in person though. maybe at the convention.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Grant

07-09-2002, 10:41 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (GT specR @ July 09 2002,4:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Very very nice <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

Do you have any other pics of the install besides the finish product? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

I'm going to do the same thing, but on my own and I was looking more alittle more info. Actually I was waiting to see S14vaxlr8 do a write since he took tons of pics. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
sorry, I did not bring the camera with me to my friend's place to do the swap. It is fairly simple, nothing that can't be figured out easily

SimpleS14

08-02-2002, 11:20 AM

how much did this install cost you?

Grant

08-05-2002, 01:55 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (GT specR @ Aug. 02 2002,10:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">how much did this install cost you?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
$1200 and counting, my swap is not complete yet. I am also missing the side skrits.

KoukiS14

08-05-2002, 02:17 PM

Grant: Are those 200SX or Silvia headlights?  And where did you get them from? =)

Also, what size bulb is in the low beam? I know our US spec ones are H1. . . but I've heard rumors about those being H4?  

-Rob

SimpleS14

08-05-2002, 03:07 PM

I was about to ask the same thing.....where did you get your JDM projectors from?

1200....damn thats cheap...you must have some kind of hook-up  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

KoukiS14

08-05-2002, 03:43 PM

Actually, if they ARE JDM. . . how hard was it to aim them correctly for LHD?  If they're from a LHD 200sx. . .  Where did you get them from?  I'm actually  in the process of shopping for a xenon kit, but if I can find some euro headlights before, that'd be cool. . then I can have both. =)  

But if not. . then I'm going to keep my USDM lights. . hey. . anyone out there with a LHD 200sx wanting to trade headlights?  You can get that cool USDM look everyone wants, right? haha

-Rob

Grant

08-06-2002, 12:49 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KoukiS14 @ Aug. 05 2002,2:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually, if they ARE JDM. . . how hard was it to aim them correctly for LHD? If they're from a LHD 200sx. . . Where did you get them from? I'm actually in the process of shopping for a xenon kit, but if I can find some euro headlights before, that'd be cool. . then I can have both. =)

But if not. . then I'm going to keep my USDM lights. . hey. . anyone out there with a LHD 200sx wanting to trade headlights? You can get that cool USDM look everyone wants, right? haha

-Rob</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
its the JDM Silvia headlights. Jspec.com imported a set so I picked em up instead of going to the dealer to get new headlights.

The beam pattern is not that far off, is shifted a bit towards the left.  I havent even bothered to aim the lights, they are fine to me.

rumors of the projectors being H4 is false. my lights use H1 bulbs.

Compared to the Silvia ones, I think the USDM lights look rather ugly.

there is a guy here at san diego (mossy nissan) that can import these lights. he actually has one set he imported. It's for sale for about $680-700.

you might be seeing that set of lights on Badmojo's car.

Danio

08-06-2002, 03:45 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Grant @ Aug. 05 2002,11:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Compared to the Silvia ones, I think the USDM lights look rather ugly.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
What's the difference?

SimpleS14

08-06-2002, 06:36 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Danio @ Aug. 05 2002,05:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What's the difference?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Here's a quick comparison:

JDM:
http://home.earthlink.net/~stofer007/s14mc/mc7.jpg

USDM:
http://images.cardomain.com/installs/194000-194999/194060_18_full.jpg

Notice the projector is bigger on the JDM version.

Grant

08-06-2002, 12:41 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (GT specR @ Aug. 06 2002,05:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Danio @ Aug. 05 2002,05:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What's the difference?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Here's a quick comparison:

JDM:
http://home.earthlink.net/~stofer007/s14mc/mc7.jpg

USDM:
http://images.cardomain.com/installs/194000-194999/194060_18_full.jpg

Notice the projector is bigger on the JDM version.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
the projectors are also spread further out, and if you look closely the projector and high beam are actually seperate housings.

SimpleS14

08-06-2002, 06:26 PM

Did you get some kind of hook up on this conversion?  Because $700 for headlights are alot.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

240silvia

08-10-2002, 10:17 AM

Now I can say that his car IS JDM, I thought that mine was until I talked to Nissan.  They told me that beam pattern was illegal so I went with the USDM headlights.  I have a 1995 240 and I did the 97-98 conversion to the front.  But I have to hand it to you man, looks nice.  

 http://members.tripod.com/eastcoastillusions/0f3037c0.jpg

Grant

08-11-2002, 03:02 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240silvia @ Aug. 10 2002,09:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Now I can say that his car IS JDM, I thought that mine was until I talked to Nissan. They told me that beam pattern was illegal so I went with the USDM headlights. I have a 1995 240 and I did the 97-98 conversion to the front. But I have to hand it to you man, looks nice.

http://members.tripod.com/eastcoastillusions/0f3037c0.jpg</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>  nonononononono... my car isnt JDM at all just the headlights and grill.. bumper is still usdm..

It does look like a euro spec 200sx however  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>  

Thanks...

NZO

08-25-2002, 02:14 PM

240silvia what front bumper is that? Looks really nice.

SimpleS14

08-25-2002, 02:46 PM

It's the Omega Bumper made by VIS.....

Silviaspeed

09-06-2002, 10:09 AM

I want to do the conversion myself, but I want to get H.I.D. too.  If I got the H.I.D. kit for my car now, would it fit with the Kouki front end, or do you think I would have to get a new kit specifically for the conversion?

Grant

09-06-2002, 10:25 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Silviaspeed @ Sep. 06 2002,09:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I want to do the conversion myself, but I want to get H.I.D. too. If I got the H.I.D. kit for my car now, would it fit with the Kouki front end, or do you think I would have to get a new kit specifically for the conversion?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
if you have a zenki front right now, no

SimpleS14

09-06-2002, 04:22 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Grant @ Sep. 05 2002,12:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteBegin--Silviaspeed+Sep. 06 2002,09<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Silviaspeed @ Sep. 06 2002,09<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>9)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I want to do the conversion myself, but I want to get H.I.D. too. If I got the H.I.D. kit for my car now, would it fit with the Kouki front end, or do you think I would have to get a new kit specifically for the conversion?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
if you have a zenki front right now, no</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
is it ok to get a HID kit once you change the front to Kouki....since the headlights have a different bulb requiring a different kit from the Zenki.

Oh yea what are the bulbs for high beam and low beam?

Silviaspeed

09-07-2002, 06:30 PM

My low beams on the Zenki are 9003, not sure what the high beams are.  Maybe 9006?

Sniper-X

09-11-2002, 02:13 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Grant @ July 09 2002,2:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well I recently did the 1997-1998 conversion on the car. I thought I'd put down a list of what is needed and the lil modifications required to complete the installation.

Parts Required from a 1997-1998:
Hood
Fenders
Headlight Assembly
Corner lights
Grille
Bumper reinforcement
Bumper cover
bottom fender lining (not necessary)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I was wondering if when you mention the parts such as the headlight assembly and corner lights, does that also include the lense and housing, and cover?  And for the hood does that also mean that hood seals and bumpers are also needed?

SimpleS14

09-11-2002, 11:07 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sniper-X @ Sep. 10 2002,04:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I was wondering if when you mention the parts such as the headlight assembly and corner lights, does that also include the lense and housing, and cover? And for the hood does that also mean that hood seals and bumpers are also needed?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
The headlight assembly and corners includes the housing, lenses and cover.  As for the hood everything is included, I can give you part numbers if you want to order this stuff from the dealership.

Sniper-X

09-12-2002, 10:07 AM

Yeah, part numbers would be perfect.

Grant

09-12-2002, 01:30 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (GT specR @ Sep. 11 2002,10:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sniper-X @ Sep. 10 2002,04:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I was wondering if when you mention the parts such as the headlight assembly and corner lights, does that also include the lense and housing, and cover? And for the hood does that also mean that hood seals and bumpers are also needed?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
The headlight assembly and corners includes the housing, lenses and cover. As for the hood everything is included, I can give you part numbers if you want to order this stuff from the dealership.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
hey GT specR can you get me the part number for the gasket that goes between teh hood and headlight? (basically the rubber trim at the edge of the hood where it meets the headlights). i need that.

SimpleS14

09-12-2002, 09:29 PM

Here are the part numbers and "suggested" pricing for each part. If your lucky you will not

have to pay the suggested price. I'm lucky that I find a dealership that will offer me

wholesale pricing, so I can get everything for under $1500 and just a bit over once you add VA tax. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

If you need any part numbers for other parts, such as foglamps or front lip let me know. Even parts from the Nismo International Catalog.

( R )Head Lamp Assembly: 26010-81F25 - $205.95
( L )Head Lamp Assembly: 26010-81F25 - $205.95

( R )Park Lamp Assembly: 26170-81F25 - $47.23
( L )Park Lamp Assembly: 26175-81F25 - $47.23

( R )Fender w/o side spoiler: F3100-80F30 - $237.08
( L )Fender w/o side spoiler: F3101-80F30 - $237.08

Grille Assembly: 62310-81F25 - $144.49

Bumper Cover: F2022-81F25 - $291.48

Retainer: 62290-80F00 - $84.92

*( R )Front Fender Liner: 63840-81F00 - $34.24
*( L )Front Fender Liner: 63841-81F00 - $34.24

Hood Assembly: F5100-81FCM - $330.80

* optional

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hey GT specR can you get me the part number for the gasket that goes between teh hood and headlight? (basically the rubber trim at the edge of the hood where it meets the headlights). i need that.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

I just noticed that piece is seperate when you buy the hood, anyways here is the part number.

But I would just double check to see if its right....all the catalog says is "Seal, Core Support" and points to a seal from a pic of the hood and various parts.

Seal: 60895-50M01 - $0.64

DuceDual0

09-20-2002, 08:38 AM

i feel that H.I.D. is the best way to go, even though the kit is a little bit pricy, i think if you can afford to buy the headlights then you can afford the kit!

-s14-

09-21-2002, 10:13 PM

Does anyone know if there is any differences in the JDM and USDM corner lights for the S14a? If they were made in that transparent glass look like the JDM headlights that look BEAUTIFUL!!

Grant

09-22-2002, 02:03 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (-s14- @ Sep. 21 2002,9:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Does anyone know if there is any differences in the JDM and USDM corner lights for the S14a? If they were made in that transparent glass look like the JDM headlights that look BEAUTIFUL!!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
there is no difference in the corner lamps

Orgazmo

10-18-2002, 09:29 PM

I know this is a old forum but anyways i still hope that someone will read this and help me out...i can't find the parts that are posted here by GT SPECR....

the items have been discontinued..can anyone tell me where else to get the parts for the conversions?? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

SimpleS14

10-18-2002, 10:10 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Orgazmo @ Oct. 17 2002,11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I know this is a old forum but anyways i still hope that someone will read this and help me out...i can't find the parts that are posted here by GT SPECR....

the items have been discontinued..can anyone tell me where else to get the parts for the conversions?? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
That's weird.... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>

Have you check another dealership or Parts.com (http://www.parts.com)

Orgazmo

10-20-2002, 06:51 AM

ok i found it from parts.com...thanks man

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>  i love you man..peace out

Silviaholic

10-22-2002, 03:21 PM

This thread isnt THAT dead... I have a question regarding the converions.  I have the 89 240 and I would really like to do the s14a conversion with the JDM lights.  Will there be a massive ammount of chopping required?

SimpleS14

10-22-2002, 03:37 PM

IIRC, it will require some custom work to get that front end on your car.  So basically yea you would need to do some chopping and buy the rad support.

I like the S13 front end (triple projector) or just a nice bumper (Type-X) on a '89 240SX.....but thats just me.

HonorableCheng

10-26-2002, 01:21 PM

I read your post and after doing a little surfing i decided to do the following: I going to take a 89 240sx and bolt up the front end off a 95-99 240sx. I gonna use a cf hood for a 99 240sx (us), lights from 95-99 (us), and fenders from 95 (us). this will work right? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/exclamation.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':x:'>

SimpleS14

10-26-2002, 05:44 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HonorableCheng @ Oct. 25 2002,3:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I read your post and after doing a little surfing i decided to do the following: I going to take a 89 240sx and bolt up the front end off a 95-99 240sx. I gonna use a cf hood for a 99 240sx (us), lights from 95-99 (us), and fenders from 95 (us). this will work right? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/exclamation.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':x:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
No

Not trying to sound mean, but there is no such thing as a '99 240SX, maybe 200SX but thats something different.

Nothing will bolt up (easily), everything will require custom work.  Also you can not mix and match pieces (95 fenders with 98 hood).  The 95-96 has a different front end from the 97-98.  I'm assume you want the 97-98 look, so you will need all the parts listed on page one....

PLUS: Rad. support, turn signals, and side markers.  

You need the radiator(sp) support, thats a must.  It will make the install easier, but a place to mount the headlights.  The side markers may not be needed depending on what bumper you get.  As for the turn signals, you might have to get USDM or JDM depending on your bumper.  Also if you want a CF hood you need one for the 97-98 240SX.

Once again that will require some custom work, and if you have the $$$......good luck!  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>anyone chime in if I missed something</span>

Sniper-X

10-26-2002, 05:46 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HonorableCheng @ Oct. 26 2002,10:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I read your post and after doing a little surfing i decided to do the following: I going to take a 89 240sx and bolt up the front end off a 95-99 240sx. I gonna use a cf hood for a 99 240sx (us), lights from 95-99 (us), and fenders from 95 (us). this will work right? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/exclamation.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':x:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Nope. that won't work and here's why....
There is no 99 US spec 240sx.
There are two types of lights for the 240 from 95-98. 95-96 are zenki, and 97-98 are kouki.
and the fenders for the 95-96 are different from the 97-98 along with the hood.

and none of those parts will just bolt right up to an 89 240sx. There's going to have to be some chopping involved.

*edit: damn I knew you were going to beat me in posting this by a few seconds!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cry:'>

Red Comet X

10-27-2002, 12:31 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There are two types of lights for the 240 from 95-98. 95-96 are zenki, and 97-98 are zenki. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Correct me if I am wrong, but arent the 97-98 refered to as "Kouki Style"?

Sniper-X

10-27-2002, 05:02 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Comet X @ Oct. 27 2002,08:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There are two types of lights for the 240 from 95-98. 95-96 are zenki, and 97-98 are zenki. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Correct me if I am wrong, but arent the 97-98 refered to as "Kouki Style"?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
thanks for pointing that out!  Perhaps I should proofread my posts a little better next time.  it has since been corrected!

SimpleS14

10-28-2002, 07:55 PM

Hey Grant, do you really need the 97-98 bumper reinforcement assembly?

HonorableCheng

10-29-2002, 07:53 AM

Sorry about that, I jumbled what i meant to say.

Importfan.com is offering a free cf hood w/ the purchase of a body kit or bumper. it is made for the s15. will it fit on the us 89 240sx (s13, 180sx)? I intend to replace the 89 240sxfenders and lights with those from a us 95-96/97+ 240sx and make a us sil80 instead of a jdm one. is this possible and which would be easier.

Sniper-X

10-29-2002, 06:23 PM

Sorry to burst your bubble again man, but an S15 hood will only fit on an S15 front end.  The lights and fenders won't line up other wise.  And remember that you can't mix and match front end parts from a 95-96 and a 97-98 240sx.  Their designs are different.  Both will involve cutting and welding in order to fit onto a 89 240sx so they will both probably be equally difficult to do, unless you can find a special kit that makes the conversion a bolt on affair but I doubt that.  
The easiest scenario would be to just do a regular Sil80 conversion because the 180sx and S13 share the same chasis in the US and unless I'm mistaken (and I could be) it would be a bolt on affair maybe w/ a few exceptions.

Sniper-X

11-02-2002, 07:00 AM

Hahahahahahhahahaha!!!!  I got my parts in for my Kouki conversion a while ago but I haven't had the opportunity to check out all the parts till tonight.  My dad works for nissan so he's the one who ordered me my parts (I'm the one who paid for them so I don't want to hear anything about mommy and daddy paying for my shi*).  Well when I opened the box for my headlights....JDM headlights baby!! hahahahahahhaahhahahahha!!!!!!  I've been drinking so don't mind my enthusiasm.....but still! hahahahhahaahhaha!!!!!  JDM HEADLIGHTS!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

SimpleS14

11-09-2002, 12:18 AM

lucky you <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

Well I just finshed my conversion and it was pretty simple, just time consuming. The only mod I had to do are the headlights (because getting them to work). I have to drill three holes into the rad. support for the headlights. One for the plastic knob and the other two for the screws. There is one part I forgot to mention, which is very important to have.

Bumper reinforcement: 62290-80F00 - $200.00 (estimate)

This will add some extra support for the bumper, right now since I don't have it my bumper hangs and its not flush to the lights. But everything else was a direct bolt and I recommended you have a second hand on the hood.

I did everything by myself and it took me roughly 4 hours.

<span style='font-size:10pt;line-height:100%'>EDIT:</span> Forget my wiring idea that Grant quoted from me.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

Grant

11-11-2002, 10:48 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (GT specR @ Nov. 08 2002,11:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">lucky you <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

Well I just finshed my conversion and it was pretty simple, just time consuming. The only mod I had to do are the headlights (because getting them to work). I have to drill three holes into the rad. support for the headlights. One for the plastic knob and the other two for the screws. There is one part I forgot to mention, which is very important to have.

Bumper reinforcement: 62290-80F00 - $200.00 (estimate)

This will add some extra support for the bumper, right now since I don't have it my bumper hangs and its not flush to the lights. But everything else was a direct bolt and I recommended you have a second hand on the hood. As for wiring the lights its was pretty east, but it took me 15 minutes to figure it out.

What you do is snip the red and black wire off the connector on the headlight....JUST CLIP THEM, DO NOT CUT THE WIRES COMPLETELY OFF (as in have enough slack connect to the housing of the bulbs). What I did is take the black wire and connected it to the top slot from the power source for the headlights. Next I took the red wire and slipped it into the left slot of the power source. I recommended you have these wires exposed, such as having the metal exposed. This makes sliding them into the slots much easier. After doing this test your headlights, if it doesn't work or look dim switch the red wire to the other side slot. It will take you some time to get it just right so that when you put the headlights in and screw them down, the wires won't become unloose. Once you have the lights working and already bolted down, don't worry about it disconnecting while driving. I took my car on rough roads and hard turns and no problems.

I did everything by myself and it took me roughly 4 hours.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Do NOT do it that way...  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

baddd, GTSpecR, BADD!!!!! down boy!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Doing it your way can be a fire hazard, and may lead to corrosion of the wires although you may not notice it right now

anyways to do it the correct way is to find the other end of the harness off a 1997-1998 (i think it is avaliable thru the dealer, or you can find it off some sivlia k's clips) and splice it into your 95-96 wiring, just cut off the H4 harness because from here on that harness is use less.

I will try to post pictures of mine when I do get a chance.

luckily i bought my bumper support and foam off some guy here for only $30.. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>.

Sniper-X

11-14-2002, 04:01 PM

Please post your pictures soon man, cuz I'm maybe a day or two from wiring my headlights and I don't want it to be some half-ass job.  I'm having a hard time visualizing what you're talking about that's why.

SimpleS14

11-14-2002, 09:35 PM

Hey!!!   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

my way may seem crappy but I took some time to double check on everything.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'>

Someone should have mentioned the headlight harness when he made this thread.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

I will eventually get a HID kit and blind everyone on the street.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>

damn you and your cheapness and hook ups.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>  I had to get my reinforcement for $155.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

SimpleS14

11-15-2002, 11:43 AM

Ok, I bought some new harness from the headlights....but what can I connect them too?

Did you get a full engine harness? because I can get the connector that plugs into the headlight without buying the full harness.

I need help soon..... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unhappy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':unhappy:'>

Sniper-X

11-15-2002, 01:47 PM

Yes, I need a more specific description of what Exactly is required for the headlights because i'm quickly approaching the part where I actually install those things and I'd like to be able to drive at night.  If i'm going to need a new wiring harness for my headlights I'd sure like to know rather than splicing wires.

*on a side note, that post that I made about JDM lights...when i look at them while i'm sober i don't really think they are JDM lights.  hahaha!  Drunken Stupors will do that to you I guess.   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

SimpleS14

11-19-2002, 12:21 PM

Someone just told me that there is a H4 > H1 conversion kit that you can use besides splicing up wires.

He told me that Speed Alliance (http://www.speedalliance.com) sells them for $125, but only at request.

Sniper-X

11-20-2002, 09:41 PM

Ok, so even with the USDM lights, they need to be rewired?  Or is it only for the JDM lights?

SimpleS14

11-22-2002, 10:34 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sniper-X @ Nov. 19 2002,11:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok, so even with the USDM lights, they need to be rewired? Or is it only for the JDM lights?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
It's for both, because they both use H1's for low beams.  However the high beams should be the same.

Right now I'm taking the cheaper route, which is buy the H1 connectors and splice them with the wiring that powered the H4 connectors.  Oh yea I also bought new harness for the ones I cut.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'>  In total it cost me $42, but I'm still waiting on the H1 connectors.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

Matt_240

11-24-2002, 01:30 PM

so wait... i gotta buy the H1 connectors, take off the H4 connectors to the low beams and then splice the H1's w/ the wires?  do you guys know how much H1 connectors are cause the other parts for the conversion are costing me a fortune. i think i'll be officially broke by Christmas.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

SimpleS14

11-24-2002, 06:47 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Matt_240 @ Nov. 23 2002,3:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">do you guys know how much H1 connectors are cause the other parts for the conversion are costing me a fortune. i think i'll be officially broke by Christmas. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I bought mine for $22.00 off some site I found. I belive an auto shop will have them, but I went searching and found nothing.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/turn.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':turn:'>

SimpleS14

11-25-2002, 04:45 PM

Here's my car....
http://mason.gmu.edu/~ggaisey/after/fquarter.jpg

http://mason.gmu.edu/~ggaisey/after/rquarter.jpg
now I need to recoat the rest of my car....

I will post pics of the headlight wiring, once I get my connectors.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

Sniper-X

11-26-2002, 02:07 PM

Well the my conversion is progressing nicely, considering it started w/ a collision.  So today the parts should be painted and then my wiring harness should arrive either today or tomorrow and should be good to go since my pops knows a crapload about Nissans.  Also it turns out that when my parts arrived, the grille didn't so a friend of mine who does work w/ carbon fiber is going to make me a custom grille <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

I'll post up pictures ASAP.

Matt_240

11-27-2002, 12:16 AM

hey sniper, tell me how it goes yah? I still have to get the headlights, cornerlights, bumper reinforcement, connectors, and wire harness but im hoping to do it by Jan or so. You're in Hawaii right?

Matt_240

11-27-2002, 12:17 AM

car looks nice gt.

SimpleS14

11-27-2002, 08:57 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Matt_240 @ Nov. 26 2002,02:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">car looks nice gt.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Thanks,

I forgot to mention that you need the get the stays along with the reinforcement.   Yes the name of the part is "STAY" left one and right one.  What they do is screw onto the reinforcement and hold up the bumper bracket so that the bumper can......well......STAY in place.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Sniper-X

11-28-2002, 02:53 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Matt_240 @ Nov. 27 2002,09:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hey sniper, tell me how it goes yah? I still have to get the headlights, cornerlights, bumper reinforcement, connectors, and wire harness but im hoping to do it by Jan or so. You're in Hawaii right?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hey man, it's going very well.  The car is pretty much finished but I just don't have my wiring harness for my low beams yet and my grille isn't finished being made.  But other than that, it's pretty much done.  I don't want to post any pictures until after it's totally complete though.  

And yeah, I'm in Hawaii.  you here too?

gatonmy3

11-28-2002, 07:44 PM

gatonmy3

11-28-2002, 07:46 PM

im in the process of converting to a kouki front end. wondering if its at all possible to use bumper support from a 95-96 because my bumper is aftermarket anyway, can i drill new holes or jigger rig something so that it gives good support or is it just too short. if anyone has any information and would like to email me with it please do so at [email protected] i will also check back here. thanks

SimpleS14

11-28-2002, 08:40 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (gatonmy3 @ Nov. 27 2002,9:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">im in the process of converting to a kouki front end. wondering if its at all possible to use bumper support from a 95-96 because my bumper is aftermarket anyway, can i drill new holes or jigger rig something so that it gives good support or is it just too short. if anyone has any information and would like to email me with it please do so at [email protected] i will also check back here. thanks</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You can't use the 95-96 support because everything on the Kouki sticks out more. Also if you try to fit any kouki bumper you will notice that the old reinforcement gets in the way, plus the bumper bracket does not perfectly sit on the reinforcement because it stick out more.

edit: I just noticed you posted twice......never used the "edit" button?   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':withstupid:'>