Oil Filters?

[Dustxking]

Ok heres the situation, me and a buddy changed the oil in my s13 last night, (i have a broken hand so i cant do it by myself) before we changed it he made me go get a nipon oil filter which cost 4.95 + tax. I said to him dude does it really mater? why cant i just use a different brand? He went off saying that nipon only!! and wouldnt stop.

My question is, does it mater which oil filter you use? Yes? Then what one do you prefer.

Note, engine is KADE

[azndoc]

Can't go wrong with OEM.

I used to use FRAM, but everyone keep telling me it sucks, so I switched back to OEM.

[Kuzumi]

remember there is a reason why the manufacturers chose that filter. Purolator used to be good but the size of them decreased.

[stinky_180]

i noticed fram oil filters changed in size over the past few years. oem is always the way to go.

[EAT Motorsports]

fram filters suck major balls they are very thin walled compaired to others and usally leak... go with OEM, if not then moblie one or wix

[rb25_s13*CHUKI]

Mobile 1!! :bigok:

[LongGrain]

k&n for me

msglngth

[burnsauto]

yeah i've ALWAYS been told oem is great. but if i dont have time to run down to the stealership...mobile 1's are pretty nice as well.

[IStop4NoMan]

purolator pure 1, has the most filter paper inside. kinda hard to find though

[lil240sx95]

fram always breaks when i take em off, so i just switched to mobil 1! but i have heard oem is a lot better.

[burnsauto]

purolator pure 1, has the most filter paper inside. kinda hard to find though

dude advance auto parts sells the pureone...

[jspaeth]

Balling with the $11.00 Mobil 1 filter extended life hahahah even though I change it every 4-5K hahaha

[MrChow]

OEM or K&N here..

[Gnnr]

Buy OEM. You can read up on Fram here:

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html

[suaknee]

^good info

where do you get oem and what is the product number? at napa?

[EAT Motorsports]

if you really want to be baller i got the SARD Mag filters, that are like $27 http://www.eatmotorsports.com/products/?id=3734 lol the only time i use them is breaking in engines sometimes alittle over kill even for that:cool: :cool:

[Gnnr]

where do you get oem and what is the product number? at napa?

OEM=Original Equipment Manufacturer. In this case that would be Nissan. So you can buy it at the Nissan dealer.

[Anto]

Fram X2 & Fram Extended Guard are the best of the fram lineups. Compareable to Mobil1 and Purolator in construction and design. Motorcraft FL-400S (oversized), Purolator 20195 (oversized)
All good filters

Motorcraft is the cheapest one. wal mart stocks them

[BlckBeautyVTEC]

i use bosch 3400

[Unit-121]

Plzzzzzzzzzzzz guys no OEM nissan filters i heard in testing from my automotive instuctor said it did allot worse in testing than the fram and FRAM sucks ass Bosch, Mobil 1 r the ones I use after hearing wat the techniocian instructor said and because i work at nissan as a lube tech all the tech says is that OEM nissan oil filters r no good SORRY 2 say

[TheSquidd]

For my KA I used the OEM because I didn't care.

On my SR I use K&N because I work here, I know our shit rocks, (better than Mobil 1 some cases), and the nut on top makes changing that SR oil filter 100x easier.

But FRAM? NEVER. It's made out of recycled junk mail.

[Irukandji]

I use K&N on my VQ, but I used to use Bosch on my KA since I worked right next to a Kragen. I would avoid Fram like the plague.

[chester_ff7]

personally i wouldnt trust the 5 dollar filters... you get what you pay for.. i use the K&N oil filter...

[d3m14n]

i use bosch and mobil 1 because it's a pain in the ass to go to the dealership. autozone is closer.

and lol @ chester's sig.

[Viet-Tam]

Wix oil filter.

[Gnnr]

Plzzzzzzzzzzzz guys no OEM nissan filters i heard in testing from my automotive instuctor said it did allot worse in testing than the fram and FRAM sucks ass Bosch, Mobil 1 r the ones I use after hearing wat the techniocian instructor said and because i work at nissan as a lube tech all the tech says is that OEM nissan oil filters r no good SORRY 2 say

Link to said testing? Your going to have to show some proof of this. Why would Nissan make crappy filters so that the cars they sell can then come back with problems, witch they would have to cover under warranty. Yeah. Makes no sense. They'd lose a lot of money that way. You can tell its not cheap. For instance, the KA Oil filter is a heavy mofo and if I remember the picture that someone took of the filter inside it was pretty thick aswell...

[Sir]

PH8A pureone - thing is HUGE!!

[hstylez]

Mobile 1!! :bigok:

+1. Mobil 1 Oil and Filter. Wouldn't have it any other way.

[nvrplzd240]

I either use K&N or pure1.

[sultan]

motorcraft fl400s, i would get purolator but the closest place with them is like 20 minutes away and i'm too lazy to go there.

[importdude]

purlator cheap 3 buck shit, right now

until friend finds the 4 wix that he has

[LongGrain]

motorcraft fl400s, i would get purolator but the closest place with them is like 20 minutes away and i'm too lazy to go there.

yea, thats pretty lazy. the CLOSEST place to buy parts is at least 20 minutes from me...

[KAZA]

any oil filter is good but if its over 9 buck forget it. just go fram lol

[Anto]

Daaang
you guys trip over frams like mad.
Like I said, Fram X2 & extended guard are really good filters.
metal endcaps, silicone anti drain back valve, coil-spring loaded bypass, and thick synthetic media. The only thing is that they are overpriced.

And to the guys who think OEM is good -
hot off the press:
http://mysite.verizon.net/michael_canlas/pics/filter_1.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/michael_canlas/pics/filter_4.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/michael_canlas/pics/filter_5.jpg

http://mysite.verizon.net/michael_canlas/pics/filter_6.jpg

http://mysite.verizon.net/michael_canlas/pics/filter_7.jpg



That's riiight son. Nissan OEM's are now

MADE IN CHINA

with those great cardboard endcaps too :|


Go on BITOG. you will learn much

Props to IBJanky for the pictures.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com

[yarou]

^that looks a WHOLE lot different than the blue ones I get where I live. And yeah BITOG is a great forum/site to read up about oils and independent tests

[Gnnr]

Well thank you Anto for providing proof. Does this go the same for the Blue colored filters too? Can you get a better picture from the side of the filter?

[smurfgcr]

its all about the wix/nascar filters that napa sells. like 7 bucks and has the cyclone rotating something or other. works good for me

[dose]

No one carries purolator in my area (small town) so I use a Wix usually or a K&N premium Performance Gold filter.

The K&N is kinda nice due to the one inch nut on the top of it so removal is even easier than usual.

[Unit-121]

Anto good shit.

[Anto]

WIX'es are good as well

As for the blue OEM nissan ones, check the labeling on the box. If it still says "Made In Japan", you're probably in the green. Once it says "Made In China", you better watch out though.
I'm not sure if they're doing this with all the filters, it MIGHT just be the filters that the newer cars use. In any case, be on the lookout.
Nissan is probably cutting corners & saving money on the small stuff.. they don't care about it, as the filters will probably be good for no more than 4-5k miles of regular driving.

I know for a fact that with a GOOD oil & matching filter, you can pull off 8k-10k oil change intervals easily.

Original Thread:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=977780#Post977780

[yarou]

Yeah, I'm 99% sure the blue ones say made in japan. Thanks for the info on the shady grey ones

[Anto]

OR

if you want to know that bad

cut open a blue one.

$7 peace of mind.

[Gnnr]

Yeah, I'll probably get an extra one next oil change and pop one open. I'm also pretty sure they say made in Japan. And it feels different from the other Nissan filters I buy for my household (01 Sentra SE and 99 Altima SE).

[Flybert]

I use mobil1 because of some online oil filter comparison I read a while back.

[kouki_s14]

dont know what part numbers those filters are for but i got these from Mikey at superior and Justin while he was at performance
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6100/cimg0811rr5.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8336/cimg0812jf9.jpg
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/4503/cimg0815ky7.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1186/cimg0816uc9.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2158/cimg0819xo0.jpg
Both made in Japan
i've used both on my RB, the smaller one actually has RB25DET listed as an application, larger blue one does not.
I asked Mikey for the RB25 oil filters, he gave me the smaller ones. Justin told me to just use the larger KA ones for more oil capacity. Both fit, both worked.

[Anto]

Yeah, you can use oversized filters on the KA for better filtration.

To recap for those of you looking for a regular 3-5k Oil filter that's cheap, there is NOTHING wrong with the filters that have cardboard endcaps. Although cardboard, they still hold up to the task of regular oil change intervals, given that they are not pushed past ~5k. If you're at a trackday or driftday, i'd recommend a better filter.

A quick recap of the good filters:

Purolator 20195 (Oversized app)
Mobil1
K&N
Wix, NAPA
Motorcraft FL-400s (Oversized app)
Fram X2 & extended guard
Wal Mart Supertech

Motorcraft filters are the easiest to access, they are sold at wal mart for $4 something and have the same internals as a Purolator. Use FL-400s for the KA, it's a slightly bigger filter (only a few ozs) that has more pleats for more filtration. It's what I use on my DD.

[steve shadows]

K and N

:zzz:

[kaotic]

Ive always used Fram filters.. The no slip grip has always been enough to sell me on them..