Upper timing chain guide?

[lonelydrifter]

I was told by someone at enjuku that the upper timing chain guide that bolts into the head was not needed. Is this true or should I start looking for that little guy?

[ntraserz]

technically it serves absolutely no purpose.. the other guides have contact with the chain. the very top "guide" doesnt. i left it cause it didnt have any affect on car either way

[mRclARK1]

He speaks the truth. It's not needed, and tends to break and/or cause the timing chain to rattle against it. Pull the valve cover and it's two easy to get at bolts... done and done.

[snappy]

Yep, I took mine out and cut down out the timing chain rattle a lot. I recommend you do it.

[lonelydrifter]

Alright awesome guys, thanks for the input.