I need 4 lug brake upgrade- where?

[TantrumEvil S13]

I know you guys must have covered this a million times, but i tried the search and it would show nothing, so i just wanted to ask. I need a brake upgrade for my s13, and my friend and i haven't been able to find one anywhere. I need the 4 lug set up though, as i really don't want to order new rims and wait another 3 months to get them. thanks guys

[KiDyNomiTe]

Your best bet is getting a predrilled 4 lug Z32 Brake swap.

Heavy Throttle (http://www.srswap.com/brakes.htm) sells predrilled Z32 Brakes, so does PDM, and I am sure there are many more, but make sure that either they predrill them, or you do it.

Here are some pics of them:
http://www.srswap.com/pics/products/Brakes.jpg
http://www.srswap.com/pics/products/brembo300ZXKIT.jpg

[240Stilo]

Another thing to pay attention to is the clearance. Gotta make sure your rims aren't too small. I don't know what exactly size rims work but i keep hearing you need 17's and offset is "critical." Maybe someone else can help with that. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

[Roly]

I was in the same boat... So I just went to Raceconcepts.net on a group buy they have going on Groupbuycenter (http://groupbuycenter.com) and picked up 4 Brembo drilled/slotted rotors for my 95 non-abs 4lug for $230 shipped. And picked up Axxis pads from Cox Import also from the groupbuy for $55 shipped both front and rear. I've owned Brembo rotors before and loved them as well as Axxis originals not the metal masters which are both dust free pads, and this combo worked incredible for me in the past. Going to a bigger brake system just lets the non-abs car lock up quicker, this is my reasoning to upgrade on the stock level.

[Frappe]

Brembo Vs. Powerslot, opinions?

I know the Brembos are higher quality, but by how much? anyone have experience with both?

-Frappe

[Roly]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Frappe @ July 18 2002,07:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Brembo Vs. Powerslot, opinions?

I know the Brembos are higher quality, but by how much? anyone have experience with both?

-Frappe</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Powerslot/stop use Brembo base rotors and then add their own cadium plating and patterns.

[240 2NR]

Going to bigger brakes does not JUST let your wheels lock up quicker, that is total misinformation. &nbsp;I can lock up the stock system in an 88 mazda 626 with 130,000 miles, but the brakes could still stand a lot of improvement. &nbsp;Locking your brakes is not the goal of any braking system. &nbsp;Modulation, stopping power, and fade resistance are. &nbsp;Having a setup like the 300zx brakes will allow much more modulation of the brakes and will be much stronger in it's stopping ability (go for a ride in a 240 so equipped and tell me you still don't see the point of better brakes). &nbsp;If you see any track time, their fade resistance will be a very welcomed feature when you have to haul down from 100+ to make the next turn, though I have run the stock brakes with performance pads and quality brake fluid without fade (though never for more than four laps, if I were building a true race car big brakes would top my list, for now it's just a solo racer/daily driver).

Now many of these reasons may not apply to you and stock brakes may be your best bet, but because they lock them up quicker is not one of them. &nbsp;If you are locking your tires up often with your stock brakes, it may be time for a new set of tires too. &nbsp;Brakes slow your wheels, but tires stop your car.

Good places to start looking for 240 brakes:
pdm-racing
strano parts
unstable-hybrids
stillen
colletti mortorsports (used to have the best prices, but I can no longer find them)

[Roly]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240 2NR @ July 18 2002,08:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Going to bigger brakes does not JUST let your wheels lock up quicker, that is total misinformation. I can lock up the stock system in an 88 mazda 626 with 130,000 miles, but the brakes could still stand a lot of improvement. Locking your brakes is not the goal of any braking system. Modulation, stopping power, and fade resistance are. Having a setup like the 300zx brakes will allow much more modulation of the brakes and will be much stronger in it's stopping ability (go for a ride in a 240 so equipped and tell me you still don't see the point of better brakes). If you see any track time, their fade resistance will be a very welcomed feature when you have to haul down from 100+ to make the next turn, though I have run the stock brakes with performance pads and quality brake fluid without fade (though never for more than four laps, if I were building a true race car big brakes would top my list, for now it's just a solo racer/daily driver).

Now many of these reasons may not apply to you and stock brakes may be your best bet, but because they lock them up quicker is not one of them. If you are locking your tires up often with your stock brakes, it may be time for a new set of tires too. Brakes slow your wheels, but tires stop your car.

Good places to start looking for 240 brakes:
pdm-racing
strano parts
unstable-hybrids
stillen
colletti mortorsports (used to have the best prices, but I can no longer find them)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yes that is correct,...I'm sorry, but I really put my context very vague. Break feel and response will be improved due to the larger brake surface area compared to the stocks. But fade resistance can also be eliminated by upgrading the stockers, replacing the lines front and rear, also replacing the brake fluid. But also remember that now rotational weight becomes a factor as well. I don't have the exact weight difference between the stock vs. Z32, but it's safe to say that the Z32 brakes do weigh more. I'm a firm believer in stock upgrades including the Z32 brake upgrade but only if the system stays balanced. This is similar to the Hondas with upgrading civic brakes with integra brakes, but the step that most people forget is upgrading the brake proportioning valve in which distributes the proper amount of brake fluid to each caliper. But, in this case, I do "believe" that drilled and/or slotted stock upgraded rotors with new pads and brake lines will perform better than the Z32 upgrade. Note: This is my opinion based on upgrading Honda's in the past. SCC did an article with Big Brake upgrading on a Civic, and in the end results, upgrading the front only stopped a little worse than stock, but upgrading all 4 corners did alot better than stock. Not stock upgrade, but stock. What do I consider Big Brake upgrade?... it's when you must replace the original wheels for clearance of new brakes.

[hopeful]

wouldnt it be the weight of the rotors you would have to watch for? like the weight of the rotor and not the brakes/calipers.

[Roly]

Yes.... correction... weight of the rotor.

[TantrumEvil S13]

Would the Z32 brake set-up clear a 17x7.5 rim with a 32mm offset? otherwise I gotta find something else. I'm gonna call Heavy Throttle tomorrow and see what they got offered, as I saw posted above. Thanks for the direction guys, now I got options <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[camppain]

16 inch rims clear the z32 calipers and rotors and one of the oem 15 inch s13 wheels clear the 26 mm z32 setup i dont know which one though.

just go 5 lug while ur at it &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[gman240]

Here is a question for the gurus. I have a set of 15 inch wheels off of the Nissan altima going on my car. Can I do the 300 zx swap underneath these particular alloys? any info is greatly appreciated