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MarketPlayer
06-20-2002, 01:00 PM
Okay when i am shifting through the gears, i feel the clutch ingage and when i try to get back on the throttle it doesn't want to accelorate fast, then 1-2 seconds later it kicks in really hard and throws occupants back into the seats!  
Also when i am going like 5mph in 1st and around 15mph in second and i let off the gas it won't smoothly deccelorate it will violently jurk?  It is really pissing me off!  
Both of these problems are making me seem like a bad manual transmission driver, but i drive sticks all the time, and pride myself on being pretty good at it.  Any useful help is always appreciated,

-zac penn

Natty
06-20-2002, 02:31 PM
Yeah, I get the same probelms, and it makes me look like an ass &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>
My problem is this: my pedal gets caught sometimes. Something with the throttle body not working smoothly. Well, when I shift, I let out the gas, shift, then get back on the gas. When I get back on the gas, the pedal/throttle isn't very smooth. Then it kicks in and gives gas. I need to adjust it and clan it out some. Also try a tuneup.
If neither or these fix it, it is my tranny being low on oil, or my actual gears &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'>
Good luck.
Jeff
Oh, it sucks giving girls rides too &nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

dr2if4ta0sx
06-20-2002, 08:47 PM
You might wanna try accelerating a little bit slower... but if thats not the case it could be the clutch... same thing thats happening to my car... gotta replace the clutch soon...

when you slow down do you down shift?... maybe you are dropping the clutch too fast. &nbsp;That would probably cause the jerking... i say just use the brakes... &nbsp;it cost less to replace the brakes then the clutch...

camppain
06-20-2002, 09:59 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dr2if4ta0sx @ June 21 2002,09:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You might wanna try accelerating a little bit slower... but if thats not the case it could be the clutch... same thing thats happening to my car... gotta replace the clutch soon...

when you slow down do you down shift?... maybe you are dropping the clutch too fast. That would probably cause the jerking... i say just use the brakes... it cost less to replace the brakes then the clutch...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
accelerating a lil slower? what kinda technique or fix is that?

try cleaning your throttle body and also see if your throttle cable is snug

mine was very loose when i bought my car felt like i didnt know how to drive stick tightned it and all is well <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

MarketPlayer
06-20-2002, 11:11 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (camppain @ June 20 2002,10:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dr2if4ta0sx @ June 21 2002,09:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You might wanna try accelerating a little bit slower... but if thats not the case it could be the clutch... same thing thats happening to my car... gotta replace the clutch soon...

when you slow down do you down shift?... maybe you are dropping the clutch too fast. That would probably cause the jerking... i say just use the brakes... it cost less to replace the brakes then the clutch...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
accelerating a lil slower? what kinda technique or fix is that?

try cleaning your throttle body and also see if your throttle cable is snug

mine was very loose when i bought my car felt like i didnt know how to drive stick tightned it and all is well <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
calm down guys...I have seen alot of hostility lately in a few threads, and i am not too happy. &nbsp;I never thought i would be the one to say this, but if someone poste something yuo don't like, just try and forget it was ever posted. &nbsp;I am pretty sure it might have something to do w/ the throttle body, but am not sure. &nbsp;I know how to drive a stick, so it isn't the fact that i am dropping the clutch, b/c i am already in gear. &nbsp;

Think of it this way. &nbsp;At work, i have to go from 0mph to about 15mph then there is a speed bump, then i can speed up again, so after i get to 15mph then let off the gas...Instead of it smoothly comming to a stop when i &nbsp;let off the gas, it jerks around and pisses me off. &nbsp;I have been told that jerkyness is sometimes related to needing a new exhaust system, and i am planning n that in the near future.

If anyone has any more info that they would like to share feel free to poste it.

-zac

240Driver39
06-20-2002, 11:56 PM
yeah, i know what ur talkin about, i wasnt sure what it was either, happens in first when ur touchy on the accelerator, and when in higher gears when u get on it it has a slight buck, and then it will go, i have a orig clutch that has higher mileage on it so i just thought it was slipping, but being knew to stick i havent experienced a newer clutch, so if u guys figure it out id like to know too..

camppain
06-21-2002, 12:04 AM
i wasnt mad otherwise i woulda posted &nbsp;"<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'> " those faces.

i just questioned his thinking and post. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>

dr2if4ta0sx
06-21-2002, 02:39 AM
hey sorry if i misinformed you... but thats simliar to what i am experiencing... i was told it was something due to the clutch... telling him to accelerate slower can save the clutch a little before replacing it... maybe i read the post wrong... sorry if again if i misinformed you...

SHOW SOME LOVE BROTHA &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'> &nbsp;lol

HKrpS13
06-21-2002, 03:27 AM
I kinda agree with dr2if4ta0sx. When it's in first gear, gas pedal gets very sensetive. You can't push or let go all of a sudden or it'll jerk.
MarketPlayer, have you driven any other car besides the 240SX (manuel trans.)? Did the same thing happen?

Natty
06-21-2002, 09:17 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HKrpS13 @ June 20 2002,05:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I kinda agree with dr2if4ta0sx. When it's in first gear, gas pedal gets very sensetive. You can't push or let go all of a sudden or it'll jerk.
MarketPlayer, have you driven any other car besides the 240SX (manuel trans.)? Did the same thing happen?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yeah, that is what I meant to say (post &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> ) earlier.
First is really sensitive, going in a parking lot or traffic is almost violent, getting on and off the gas. I do think it is becuase there is slack int he throttle wire. I am doing a full tuneup, fluid change, and I'll check the throttle stuff this weekend.
Oh, this is my first manual, but I have a new clutch &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>
Jeff

mrdirty
06-21-2002, 03:43 PM
I learned to drive stick on my 240 and didn't think anything of the bucking in 1st; then i drove a friends car a while later and noticed a HUGE difference. I think that it's due to the low end torque, and you will get used to it; it just takes a bit of time. In the end you will just move your foot a LOT less to slow down in 1st.

If u want to keep the power on in 2nd, slip the clutch in a little; I shift 1-2 @ 6k and don't notice the bogging, but anything under that and it's there (unless it's really hot and the LSD doesn't engage right away, then it chirps a bit).

BEISSEN
06-21-2002, 03:57 PM
Try putting your car in neutral when stoping and brake at teh same time and then your car will stop smoothly and then put it back into first afterwards.

NutzDrifta
06-21-2002, 04:22 PM
Just a question, does your car start up fine and idle at the correct rpm? &nbsp;If it doesn't then it could be something to do with the distrubitor or fuel system. &nbsp;If not, then I would clean the throttle body like others said first to see if that makes a difference. &nbsp;Other things you might want to check is the spark plugs, the spark plug wires, and your fuel filter. &nbsp;Hope this helps.

logo20
06-21-2002, 04:51 PM
I think the jerking in 1st gear is due to the old clutch.
I had a 90 integra before the 240sx, and it was a lot worse.
Short after I sold it, the guy told me the clutch went out.

mrdirty
06-21-2002, 05:11 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (logo20 @ June 21 2002,5:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think the jerking in 1st gear is due to the old clutch.
I had a 90 integra before the 240sx, and it was a lot worse.
Short after I sold it, the guy told me the clutch went out.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Maybe i don't understand his problem exactly, but if the clutch is slipping when it shouldn't or not dis-engaging when it should then yeah, bad clutch; but I think what he's talking about is throttle sensitivity &nbsp;in 1st which is not an indicator of a bad clutch; just a lot of torque.

....most of my friends can't drive my car worth shit in 1st, they stay in second; i like 1st for low speed, it just takes a lot of foot precision.

MarketPlayer
06-21-2002, 08:07 PM
After reading everyones postes, it seems as though mrdirty is correct. &nbsp;I think i just need to clean my throttle body, and adjust the throttle cable slack. &nbsp;If someone could recommend the correct way of doing this I would really appreciate it. &nbsp;thanks everyone for the rapid responses and keeping it civil.

campain...I didn't mean to make it look like you were being a dick or anything, cause you weren't! &nbsp;I just like for everyone to keep it sweet and too the point w/out useless dribble.

thanks again,
-zac

fastpace
06-21-2002, 08:14 PM
Well i think i know what yall are having a problem with and i believe somebody has already said it, the clutch. I knew something was messed up with my car. I thought it was either the clutch or the carborater (it is a '87 toyota corolla 5 speed). I put the car in first and all it will do is rev really high. It did that through all of the gears. Today i went on the freeway and it was sad because cars i would be passing were passing me like nothing, even soccer moms were too. The speed limit is 55 mph and i was barely going that, it really pissed me the hell off. But anyway while usually in first gear i alternate like playing on a see-saw, but for about two weeks i didn't have to do that. I jumped off of the clutch and the car didn't even jerk. I couldn't take it anymore so I took it to the family mechanic and he test drove it and said that the clutch was sleeping and needed to be replaced. I am going to ask him for the old clutch tomorrow so i can see what it looks like.
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; If anybody has a problem like this it is the clutch, but if it is different, then I don't know but i hope this helps.

MarketPlayer
06-21-2002, 11:25 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (fastpace @ June 21 2002,9:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well i think i know what yall are having a problem with and i believe somebody has already said it, the clutch. I knew something was messed up with my car. I thought it was either the clutch or the carborater (it is a '87 toyota corolla 5 speed). I put the car in first and all it will do is rev really high. It did that through all of the gears. Today i went on the freeway and it was sad because cars i would be passing were passing me like nothing, even soccer moms were too. The speed limit is 55 mph and i was barely going that, it really pissed me the hell off. But anyway while usually in first gear i alternate like playing on a see-saw, but for about two weeks i didn't have to do that. I jumped off of the clutch and the car didn't even jerk. I couldn't take it anymore so I took it to the family mechanic and he test drove it and said that the clutch was sleeping and needed to be replaced. I am going to ask him for the old clutch tomorrow so i can see what it looks like.
If anybody has a problem like this it is the clutch, but if it is different, then I don't know but i hope this helps.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Actually it doesn't... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

I appreciate you trying, but i would defenatly know if it was a clutch problem. &nbsp;It is just the fact that tis engine really likes to accelorate really fast and in the process of that it makes for a jumpy/uncomferatble ride unless you adapt to the engine. &nbsp;I have pretty much fixed the jurking problem, but the fact that i am not accelerating as fast as i think i shlould, after shifting gears, But it doesn't feel, too me, like it is a clutch problem. &nbsp;If it was do to a slipping clutch, wouldn't the rpms go up?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> &nbsp;In my case they actually drop?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> &nbsp;Also this might add a little something, or maybe fix a problen that was pleaging me, but when i am idling and i push on the gas the rpm's don't accelerate as they should. &nbsp;The only example i can think of right now is...When playing Gran Tourismo 3 on PS2 when you hit the X button the revs go up really fast, well mine don't rev up fast until like a second delay.

P.S. I am sorry if this doesn't make sense, but i am drunk, so read according too...

-zac

misnomer
06-22-2002, 01:42 AM
First thing to consider, as it has already been said, is that the 240sx is a torquey car that doesn't have a great top end acceleration. Beyond that, I would think trouble with the fuel system. When is the last time your fuel filter or spark plugs were changed? Check out the injectors if you can, or at least run some cleaner through, make certain the throttle cable is secure.

Of all this I emphasize the fuel filter, mine went significantly past due and I noticed a big change in engine response when I replaced it.

gh6o6
06-22-2002, 11:17 AM
if its reving and then ingauges hard, could it be the slave cylinder for the cluch line? im not sure, but id like to help

srJOEYdet
06-22-2002, 05:06 PM
I have a jeep cherokee with a 4.0 liter straight six. The thing is torquey as hell, and if I let off the gass even a little suddenly in first or second gear, my passengers leave teeth marks on the dash. I think it happens the same way engine braking does. That is my explanation on the car jerking upon deceleration. On acceleration, my jeep will jerk real good if its in powerband. I agree with whoever said it was the torque. Don't know about the delay though.

Joey

ghosts14
06-22-2002, 05:38 PM
some one had mention tightening the throttle cable. &nbsp;How exactly do you do that? &nbsp;I was checking mine just out of curiousity and noticed it was pretty loose.

KyoLo
06-23-2002, 10:25 PM
your clutch is DEAD, same thing happens to me, gotta change my clutch soon....

drift into a curb
06-26-2002, 01:26 AM
I HIGHLY doubt it's your clutch. &nbsp;If you haven't had the chance to check your throttle cable, just try letting go of the gas pedal slowly when you're decelerating at 15mph. &nbsp;It only happens when you let go of the accelerator quickly right? &nbsp;This happens in my 98 GSR as well, so I've learned to let go of the gas pedal gently and it makes the ride smoother.

Red
06-26-2002, 08:16 PM
I use to have the same problem in my 95 5spd, Then I stopped dropping the gas so fast in 1st and no more jerkin nice smooth sailing, I dont think its the clutch you just needa be nice in 1st.. I know my clutch aint bad and mine will do the same thing if I let off the gas quick in 1st <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>