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alexchanman · 05-15-2006, 06:16 PM

setup looooks sooo crazy i love that bracket, looks like a big company with alot of money made it.

JohnC · 05-16-2006, 12:39 AM

Thanks for the compliments Zilvians.
Drew935, The rears will wait a little while untill Willwood get back
to me or rather "TIG Engineering" that did the work on the car. They requested
information about the willwood mechanical spot calipers. Once they
have the info and they are satisfied I will do the rears.
The tires are Potenza RE-070 which provide plenty of grip.
The bracket is the best looking part in the whole setup although
it will never be seen

I hope. Anyway, made by shop
that does very high quality custom fabrications from the brackets
you see here upto designing engines from bare blocks. They are the
shit!!!!!! their decal is on my car because they are great guys and you
I have much respect for them and their abilities.

*SaintlyCharBoy* · 05-16-2006, 07:21 PM

you know if "TIG engineering" is willing to sell more brackets?

a raw aluminum finish would be awesome

JohnC · 05-16-2006, 09:27 PM

I am sure they would.
I will ask them for a price.

John

turtl631 · 05-17-2006, 03:10 AM

Too bad evo rotors are so expensive. Hard to beat $20 Z32 blanks when you're doing a lot of track days and just wearing them out anyways.

**mrmephistopheles** · 05-17-2006, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tre

You can have the biggest brakes in the world and still not outbrake a stock car, if you're tires don't allow you too.

Stupid post. 225/45 RE070's are nice sticky tires. Your argument is crap given the context of this thread.

aznxplayer · 05-20-2006, 02:47 PM

question, those willwood ebrake calipers, anyone use em on their car? thinkin bout gettin em for either zbrakes if i dont wnna do the ebrake assy or if i get somethin else in the rears...cause that would be cool as fuck to have 2 calipers on the back haha
thx!

JohnC · 05-22-2006, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aznxplayer

question, those willwood ebrake calipers, anyone use em on their car? thinkin bout gettin em for either zbrakes if i dont wnna do the ebrake assy or if i get somethin else in the rears...cause that would be cool as fuck to have 2 calipers on the back haha
thx!

I will be using them in about 2 weeks.
Received the information I needed and it
looks like its a go as far as using them for
a mechanical ebarke. I will update after they are installed.

Saintlycharboy, I got a total of 5 people wanting these brackets
made. The price including shipping will be around 290 shipped just for
one but if we get 5 it will be around 220 shipped. Aluminium they will not
do for brake applications. Liability etc..... They used 4340 steel (or something like that :-P )
on m brackets since it is very very strong material. Weight saving will be
addressed in a couple of weeks when we atke them out to install my floating rotors.

John

REDSH!FT · 05-22-2006, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnC

messagelength

JohnC · 05-22-2006, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REDSH!FT

They look great , If I may say so, under the wheels I bought from you dont
they Ian?

a_ahmed · 05-26-2006, 02:46 PM

hey that is awesome,

im here in canada,

i just did the 300zx front and rear, except my fronts are 26mm

still better than stock heh... and the rears i also got powerslot rotors.. PDM racing stainless steel lines all around.

This looks pretty cool though, looking forward to a detailed writeup, too much information in this thread, it was kind of confusing hehe, but i did go through the whole thread, it was interesting!

hybrid_eg · 05-27-2006, 07:29 PM

just wondering what steelbraided lines did you guys use? will S13 steelbraided lines work that some of us are using for Z32 caliper setup front and stock caliper rear?

Also, for the ebrake cable, can you just reuse stock s13 cable and connect it to the STI brembo caliper?

and one more last but rather important question.. with the front bracket and STI caliper, how different is this set up going to be then Z32 for wheel to caliper clearance? My wheels are 17x9 +20 all around, and i run 10mm spacer, wonder if this combo would clear or will need even a bigger spacer
Many tks!

JohnC · 05-27-2006, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hybrid_eg

just wondering what steelbraided lines did you guys use? will S13 steelbraided lines work that some of us are using for Z32 caliper setup front and stock caliper rear?

Also, for the ebrake cable, can you just reuse stock s13 cable and connect it to the STI brembo caliper?

and one more last but rather important question.. with the front bracket and STI caliper, how different is this set up going to be then Z32 for wheel to caliper clearance? My wheels are 17x9 +20 all around, and i run 10mm spacer, wonder if this combo would clear or will need even a bigger spacer
Many tks!

STI Steel braided lines up front woked great. Rear has yet to be modified + I have a S14 so IDK. I MB Wheels 17X9 with 15 or 17 offset and I have room for another caliper between the brembos and the spokes. I can get almost 3 fingers inbetween the caliper and wheel.

khmerguy618 · 05-28-2006, 06:33 AM

man this is a great write up and those brakes look awesome. Tracked them yet?

JohnC · 05-28-2006, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khmerguy618

man this is a great write up and those brakes look awesome. Tracked them yet?

first,
Thank you KRINKOV!!!!!!!!!! for bringing this upgrade to life.
I had a chance to put them to the test on a mountain run several times in the past weekend.
Downhill no problems at all with fade, if you use the brakes right, due to increased initial bite and
clamping force of the complete system you can brake harder, later and for a much shorter time.
Trail braking has become an easy task due to increased feedback from the brake system.
I run ferodo 2500 pads. Chasing a couple of friends with evo's required very hard braking from
high speeds and at no point was I not confident about the brakes.
I autox'd with them one time on a 1.4 mile course with segments of up to 95mph and then very hard braking
and all I can say is this system works great!!!

This is as close as it can get (snap shots taken from a video of this weekends run).

hybrid_eg · 05-28-2006, 12:47 PM

i plan on putting them on an S13, so i would assume STI steel braided lines will work up front, just not sure about the rear.. perhaps sti as well?

*SoSideways* · 05-28-2006, 01:03 PM

Nice! Bet you your buddies in their Evos were like

when they saw you right on their ass.

Then they were probably like

KA24DESOneThree · 05-28-2006, 01:11 PM

You don't need Evo brakes to get on Evo ass. You just need wide tires, the right suspension, and a grippy pad compound.

Of course, if we're talking about getting on their asses continually in 92-degree heat, you do need something bigger than stock, or Z32 for that matter. For doing so on a budget, I don't really see any idea better than this.

JohnC · 05-28-2006, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

You don't need Evo brakes to get on Evo ass. You just need wide tires, the right suspension, and a grippy pad compound.

Of course, if we're talking about getting on their asses continually in 92-degree heat, you do need something bigger than stock, or Z32 for that matter. For doing so on a budget, I don't really see any idea better than this.

Thats right!
It was actually 95

. I had the z32 as stock brakes with ferodo 2500 and braided
lines and sloted rotors but I would always need to brake about half a second to a second earlier. Not anymore. Confidence in your brake systems
gives you more then just better braking ability, it allows you to concentrate on your driving hence going faster is "easier".
Sosideways: somewhat surprised. They always got away from me with accel and braking but I would close with entry speed and mid corner speed now they are holding me back a little going downhill. one of the evo's with dunlop direzza rubber (my next tire)

PITCH · 05-28-2006, 03:13 PM

JohnC add me to the list for thoes brackets. I want a set.

JohnC · 05-29-2006, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PITCH

JohnC add me to the list for thoes brackets. I want a set.

Added,

I have contacted one of the moderators to get permission to setup
an organized GB. Once I have an answer I will see how we will do this.
I will not be making any profit, all the payments go directly to the shop.

*SoSideways* · 05-29-2006, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnC

Added,

I have contacted one of the moderators to get permission to setup
an organized GB. Once I have an answer I will see how we will do this.
I will not be making any profit, all the payments go directly to the shop.

Will the shop be willing to make more than the initial batch of like 5 sets of brackets?

And also, will there be a bracket for the Wilwood e-brake calipers when you get your's done?

Those should be interesting, as I want to see how that setup will work out for you.

JohnC · 05-29-2006, 11:16 AM

The shop will produce as many as needed the more
the better.
the wilwood caliper requires the willwood bracket that
they sell or making your own. it is not car specific so
fabrication is required anyway.It creates another mounting ppoint and needs to be
welded on the hub. I will post the needed parts and results once
I get the parts in and mounted.

gsracer · 05-29-2006, 11:32 PM

I just did this setup, using cadillac CTS v series F40 style calipers, mustang cobra rotors, and mitsu evo pads.

The only problem I have is that the cobra rotors dont center perfectly on the hubs. Anyone have a fix for this?

Before

After

JohnC · 05-29-2006, 11:40 PM

That looks great gsracer.
You will need hubcentric rings made up to solve
the centering issue. Take the measurment and get the machined.
The yellow ones shown in this picture

are to center the wheels and made from polycarbonate
but same idea applies to the rotors.
How are those calipers performing?

gsracer · 05-29-2006, 11:58 PM

The problem i get is that the center of the hub is 66 mm and the center of the rotor is 70mm. The ring would have to be 2mm thick. I dont know of anyone who could make something like that.

As for how its performing , dont know yet havent driven it. But i will be doing 4 piston rears as well with a manual ebrake.

JohnC · 05-30-2006, 07:18 AM

Find a machine shop,a good one, 2mm is not so hard to make. I bet you thought
about that already

make it from steel and have is coated to avoid rust. What 4pot
will you be using for the rears?

*SoSideways* · 05-30-2006, 02:02 PM

Most hubcentric rings are around 2mm thick anyway I thought?

Because most wheels are made with like 70mm center bore to fit most of the makes/models of cars, and us Nissan guys have 66mm center bore, so...

I mean, I have some plastic ones I got from SPLparts.com and they're 2mm thick IIRC. I have 5zigen FN01R-Cs on my car, so...

gsracer · 05-30-2006, 05:45 PM

I got a line on the hubcentric rings, new question.

Does anyone know the rotor height from the 350z track with the brembos?

cosmoworks · 05-31-2006, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsracer

I got a line on the hubcentric rings, new question.

Does anyone know the rotor height from the 350z track with the brembos?

Don't trust the answer I already gave you?

49mm.

-Cosmo

05-16-2006, 12:39 AM	#122
JohnC Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 321 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: JohnC	Thanks for the compliments Zilvians. Drew935, The rears will wait a little while untill Willwood get back to me or rather "TIG Engineering" that did the work on the car. They requested information about the willwood mechanical spot calipers. Once they have the info and they are satisfied I will do the rears. The tires are Potenza RE-070 which provide plenty of grip. The bracket is the best looking part in the whole setup although it will never be seen I hope. Anyway, made by shop that does very high quality custom fabrications from the brackets you see here upto designing engines from bare blocks. They are the shit!!!!!! their decal is on my car because they are great guys and you I have much respect for them and their abilities. __________________ John http://www.driftclub-il.com/johnc/Im...hn-tig-sig.jpg Last edited by JohnC; 05-16-2006 at 06:54 AM.

05-16-2006, 07:21 PM	#123
SaintlyCharBoy Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bow, NH Age: 27 Posts: 827 Trader Rating: (1)	you know if "TIG engineering" is willing to sell more brackets? a raw aluminum finish would be awesome __________________ 92 vert - KADE + VH41 + GM MA5 = too many parts in the garage 95 base - retired

05-16-2006, 09:27 PM	#124
JohnC Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 321 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: JohnC	I am sure they would. I will ask them for a price. John __________________ John http://www.driftclub-il.com/johnc/Im...hn-tig-sig.jpg

05-20-2006, 02:47 PM	#127
aznxplayer Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fremont, CA (bay area) Posts: 278 Trader Rating: (0)	question, those willwood ebrake calipers, anyone use em on their car? thinkin bout gettin em for either zbrakes if i dont wnna do the ebrake assy or if i get somethin else in the rears...cause that would be cool as fuck to have 2 calipers on the back haha thx! __________________ black 91 hatch R.I.P black 90 hatch sr20 R.I.P black 90 hatch!!!!

05-28-2006, 06:33 AM	#134
khmerguy618 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 408 san jeezy CA Age: 27 Posts: 1,866 Trader Rating: (11)	man this is a great write up and those brakes look awesome. Tracked them yet? __________________ Watch speed channel 12/9 @7.30PM for drifting at HIN! http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w.../Sigs/Ssig.jpg sereitun@gmail.com IF you bought stuff from me write me a review HERE \|\|VEXMOTORSPORTS \|\| DMAX-USA \|\| RPS CLUTCH \|\| BAB AUTOBODY\|\|

05-15-2006, 06:16 PM	#121
alexchanman Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: boston, ma Posts: 428 Trader Rating: (0)	setup looooks sooo crazy i love that bracket, looks like a big company with alot of money made it.

05-17-2006, 03:10 AM	#125
turtl631 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 701 Trader Rating: (1)	Too bad evo rotors are so expensive. Hard to beat $20 Z32 blanks when you're doing a lot of track days and just wearing them out anyways.

05-26-2006, 02:46 PM	#131
a_ahmed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 751 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: a_ahmed	hey that is awesome, im here in canada, i just did the 300zx front and rear, except my fronts are 26mm still better than stock heh... and the rears i also got powerslot rotors.. PDM racing stainless steel lines all around. This looks pretty cool though, looking forward to a detailed writeup, too much information in this thread, it was kind of confusing hehe, but i did go through the whole thread, it was interesting!

05-27-2006, 07:29 PM	#132
hybrid_eg Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 588 Trader Rating: (8)	just wondering what steelbraided lines did you guys use? will S13 steelbraided lines work that some of us are using for Z32 caliper setup front and stock caliper rear? Also, for the ebrake cable, can you just reuse stock s13 cable and connect it to the STI brembo caliper? and one more last but rather important question.. with the front bracket and STI caliper, how different is this set up going to be then Z32 for wheel to caliper clearance? My wheels are 17x9 +20 all around, and i run 10mm spacer, wonder if this combo would clear or will need even a bigger spacer Many tks!

05-28-2006, 12:47 PM	#136
hybrid_eg Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 588 Trader Rating: (8)	i plan on putting them on an S13, so i would assume STI steel braided lines will work up front, just not sure about the rear.. perhaps sti as well?

05-28-2006, 01:03 PM	#137
SoSideways Corgi massa Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: where old people go to die Posts: 3,326 Trader Rating: (3)	Nice! Bet you your buddies in their Evos were like when they saw you right on their ass. Then they were probably like

05-28-2006, 01:11 PM	#138
KA24DESOneThree Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: N. SD County SoCal Age: 23 Posts: 2,038 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KA24DESOneThree	You don't need Evo brakes to get on Evo ass. You just need wide tires, the right suspension, and a grippy pad compound. Of course, if we're talking about getting on their asses continually in 92-degree heat, you do need something bigger than stock, or Z32 for that matter. For doing so on a budget, I don't really see any idea better than this. __________________ Your copycat car reflects your copycat life. Banned- Calguns.net 1/4/09

05-28-2006, 03:13 PM	#140
PITCH Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: GA Age: 28 Posts: 779 Trader Rating: (0)	JohnC add me to the list for thoes brackets. I want a set. __________________

05-29-2006, 11:16 AM	#143
JohnC Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 321 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: JohnC	The shop will produce as many as needed the more the better. the wilwood caliper requires the willwood bracket that they sell or making your own. it is not car specific so fabrication is required anyway.It creates another mounting ppoint and needs to be welded on the hub. I will post the needed parts and results once I get the parts in and mounted. __________________ John http://www.driftclub-il.com/johnc/Im...hn-tig-sig.jpg

05-29-2006, 11:32 PM	#144
gsracer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami Age: 26 Posts: 1,204 Trader Rating: (2)	I just did this setup, using cadillac CTS v series F40 style calipers, mustang cobra rotors, and mitsu evo pads. The only problem I have is that the cobra rotors dont center perfectly on the hubs. Anyone have a fix for this? Before After __________________ ANTI-STRETCH NAZI Vh45de powered S14 aka 450sx GOT V8?

05-29-2006, 11:40 PM	#145
JohnC Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 321 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: JohnC	That looks great gsracer. You will need hubcentric rings made up to solve the centering issue. Take the measurment and get the machined. The yellow ones shown in this picture are to center the wheels and made from polycarbonate but same idea applies to the rotors. How are those calipers performing? __________________ John http://www.driftclub-il.com/johnc/Im...hn-tig-sig.jpg Last edited by JohnC; 02-11-2007 at 01:30 PM.

05-29-2006, 11:58 PM	#146
gsracer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami Age: 26 Posts: 1,204 Trader Rating: (2)	The problem i get is that the center of the hub is 66 mm and the center of the rotor is 70mm. The ring would have to be 2mm thick. I dont know of anyone who could make something like that. As for how its performing , dont know yet havent driven it. But i will be doing 4 piston rears as well with a manual ebrake. __________________ ANTI-STRETCH NAZI Vh45de powered S14 aka 450sx GOT V8?

05-30-2006, 07:18 AM	#147
JohnC Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 321 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: JohnC	Find a machine shop,a good one, 2mm is not so hard to make. I bet you thought about that already make it from steel and have is coated to avoid rust. What 4pot will you be using for the rears? __________________ John http://www.driftclub-il.com/johnc/Im...hn-tig-sig.jpg

05-30-2006, 02:02 PM	#148
SoSideways Corgi massa Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: where old people go to die Posts: 3,326 Trader Rating: (3)	Most hubcentric rings are around 2mm thick anyway I thought? Because most wheels are made with like 70mm center bore to fit most of the makes/models of cars, and us Nissan guys have 66mm center bore, so... I mean, I have some plastic ones I got from SPLparts.com and they're 2mm thick IIRC. I have 5zigen FN01R-Cs on my car, so...

05-30-2006, 05:45 PM	#149
gsracer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami Age: 26 Posts: 1,204 Trader Rating: (2)	I got a line on the hubcentric rings, new question. Does anyone know the rotor height from the 350z track with the brembos? __________________ ANTI-STRETCH NAZI Vh45de powered S14 aka 450sx GOT V8?

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