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*driftking777* · 12-09-2005, 10:27 AM

just make sure once you get that ebrake setup working make sure to post that up to...congrats on getting everything fitted!

*SoSideways* · 12-09-2005, 01:31 PM

Hey Krinkov, you can try something like this:

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=93175

I'm thinking about going that route, if I end up getting brake upgrades other than Z32 fronts.

andrewmp6 · 12-11-2005, 05:04 AM

id like to see more pics of everything done you should make a kit and sell it

BIGBX1 · 12-11-2005, 08:59 AM

This looks like a great brake upgrade, I will try it out on my next project thanks for sharing the tech info.

sXi · 02-04-2006, 03:07 AM

Krinkov, I've just purchased a whole brake system off a totaled 05 sti

so the combo you used were
front: sti caliper / front evo rotor
rear: sti caliper / rear evo rotor

I also got the ebrake from the sti. do you think it would work on the 240sx?
for the evo rotors. any good place to buy them? you said the front sti rotor would not work. How about the rear sti rotors?

Will you make me a set of brakets? I will pay for them ofcourse.

Thanks for the clear up

white smoke · 02-04-2006, 01:54 PM

Very good info here.
You should contact Fast Brakes and see if they will machine some brackets for you. If were looking at ~1500 for this setup I think many people will be interested.

Another thing to note is that the paint on the Sti rotors blows the EVO's out of the watter. Who wants pink calipers? lol

DRFT180 · 02-04-2006, 03:55 PM

A friend of mine has just finished the rear (STI caliper/EVO rotor) and should be finishing the front tonight.

sXi · 02-04-2006, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRFT180

A friend of mine has just finished the rear (STI caliper/EVO rotor) and should be finishing the front tonight.

did you friend aslo do the ebrake setup?

*SoSideways* · 02-04-2006, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sXi

Krinkov, I've just purchased a whole brake system off a totaled 05 sti

so the combo you used were
front: sti caliper / front evo rotor
rear: sti caliper / rear evo rotor

I also got the ebrake from the sti. do you think it would work on the 240sx?
for the evo rotors. any good place to buy them? you said the front sti rotor would not work. How about the rear sti rotors?

Will you make me a set of brakets? I will pay for them ofcourse.

Thanks for the clear up

You can't use the STi rotors that are drilled for 5x100. I think the latest STi's have a bolt pattern of 5x114.3, so you could use those, but I think they cost more or the rotor hat offset is different or something.

sXi · 02-04-2006, 08:53 PM

yeah. 04 sti were 100x 5 and 05 up is 114.3x5.

Krinkov did tried the sti front rotors and there were not fitting because of the center hub hole was too smalls. and the evos were bolted right up.

I belive the one that im getting is 04. so.. I will still need evo rotors.
the ebrake still concerns me.

KA24DESOneThree · 02-05-2006, 01:51 AM

I went through all of this and didn't see one critical thing: weights.

How much do the Brembos weigh and how much do the Evo rotors weigh? This is critical information for anyone interested in keeping unsprung weight down.

*nsn240* · 02-05-2006, 01:17 PM

this is an awesome idea, id like to hear your reaction to driving with them and then ill probably do this myself. Im sure plenty of people, including myself, would e interested in a "parts package" with the brackets and spacers

*SoSideways* · 02-05-2006, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

I went through all of this and didn't see one critical thing: weights.

How much do the Brembos weigh and how much do the Evo rotors weigh? This is critical information for anyone interested in keeping unsprung weight down.

Would you rather not run brakes at all and use your feet to stop your car like Fred Flintstone just to keep your unsprung weight down?

sXi · 02-05-2006, 04:24 PM

awesome. I just got my brake calipers off the 04 sti.
I am shopping for the evo rotors now. and will fab the brackets out soon. Thank you for all the info.
[IMG]htpp://stu.aii.edu/~xjl181/brembo/v.jpg[/IMG]

anyotherone · 02-11-2006, 02:25 PM

Great info! I'm picking up a set of STi brembos next week.

KA24DESOneThree · 02-11-2006, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoSideways

Would you rather not run brakes at all and use your feet to stop your car like Fred Flintstone just to keep your unsprung weight down?

Would you rather run six pistons instead of four and have larger pads in addition to lighter weight?

Wilwood six-piston Superlite calipers weigh about 5.5lbs, hats 2lbs, and 332x35 rotors 16lbs. Wilwood four-piston Dynalite calipers weigh about 2.5lbs, hats 2lbs, and 310x21 rotors 9.6lbs. Associated bracketry probably adds about a pound per wheel. I want to know how much heavier (if any) the Evo big brakes are so I can do a cost-benefit analysis.

*SoSideways* · 02-12-2006, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Would you rather run six pistons instead of four and have larger pads in addition to lighter weight?

Wilwood six-piston Superlite calipers weigh about 5.5lbs, hats 2lbs, and 332x35 rotors 16lbs. Wilwood four-piston Dynalite calipers weigh about 2.5lbs, hats 2lbs, and 310x21 rotors 9.6lbs. Associated bracketry probably adds about a pound per wheel. I want to know how much heavier (if any) the Evo big brakes are so I can do a cost-benefit analysis.

Probably quite heavy seeing as they are OEM equipment afterall. They look to be about 10 pounds for the 4 pistons and about 7 pounds each for the 2 piston rears.

Oh, and how much would that Wilwood setup cost?

nlzmo400r · 02-13-2006, 03:03 PM

I just finished the whole setup myself. Must say that the 300zx m/c and maybe even the brake booster from the z32 is needed. They look great however. I used STi calipers/ evo rotors and ferrodo ds2500 pads with stainless lines all around. The brembo calipers are actually lighter than my previous z32 calipers. The rotors are however, a little heavier due to being much bigger. Of course going to an aluminum hat rotor would save lots of weight but cost lots more $$. If you're willing to spend the extra $$ for the lighter rotors, itd be lighter than a z32 set up im sure. Thanks for the idea krinkov. I'll get DRFT180 to post pics of my car with em on

- Rob

DRFT180 · 02-13-2006, 06:07 PM

^^4-lug too...............

turtl631 · 02-13-2006, 06:43 PM

has anyone calculated the bias on this setup?

KA24DESOneThree · 02-15-2006, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoSideways

Oh, and how much would that Wilwood setup cost?

$2190 with proportioning valve and line lock, 4- or 5-lug.

*SoSideways* · 02-15-2006, 06:08 AM

Wow, that's pretty steep.

The STi or Evo setup may run up to $1200 at the most (that I have seen on eBay anyways), but then again, those are used parts...

And we're probably taking only like a few pounds of difference total between your Wilwood setup and this Brembo setup. So I guess if those few pounds are worth the extra grand, then go for it man, since it sounds really nice.

JohnC · 02-19-2006, 02:20 PM

Krinkov, Thanks for this

I will be taking the STI calipers I have at home, from my suby days,
and start working on this. We got the cars EU spec so they already came
with 30mm Z32 calipers as standard so I guess I am upgrading an "upgraded" system.
Ordered AP Racing rotors for Evo and ferodo pads.
brembo's http://192.115.8.73/Images/a21.jpg
I will be upgrading the rears and the link to cncbrakes.com setup
got me looking for a more OE style setup and I came across this:
http://www.prepfab.co.uk/Parts/ and their product: Hydraulic Handbrake (Std)
This will enable me to keep a OE look to my handbrake. kind of pricey at 133 uk pounds.
If someone knows of a place to get this similar setup/design for less let me know.
and btw, If someone wants my Z32 30mm calipers let me know.

JohnC · 05-15-2006, 01:56 PM

UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
REAR SOLUTION FOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look at end of the thread!!!!
Ignore the follwing comment!

Rear Conversion Bad news for those wanting to keep the Z32 E-Brake.
If you do not keep the E-Brake, No need to read further just fir the rotors and calipers.
The evo Rotor will not fit over the Z32 ebrake assembly.
Evo rotor inner diameter when new is 166mm and an allowed max
of 168mm. I tried fitting the rotors over the assembly and it is a no go!!
The z32 rear inner diameter is 172 and there you go, that makes all the difference.
Sorry, just thought I would save others the disappointment.

Finished the front.
I went a little crazy and had TIG Engineering desgin me
brackets. I know i could have kept it simple but since I had some
other things for them to do I figured what the heck.
I think they did a great job designing and eventually installing them.
Brackets were $250 to design, manufacture and have them coated.
If more will be made the price will be a lot cheaper.
What do you think?

Started with this:

Brackets:

Mounting:

Mounted:

Finished Product:

93 240sxfastback · 05-15-2006, 05:10 PM

Cool I'll put my evo brakes on my 240 and my 300zx brakes on my evo....

drew935 · 05-15-2006, 05:20 PM

Looks good John. Did you do the rear as well?

tre · 05-15-2006, 05:20 PM

You can have the biggest brakes in the world and still not outbrake a stock car, if you're tires don't allow you too.

tre · 05-15-2006, 05:22 PM

i hate not being able to edit, but shit looks hot haha

*Pank* · 05-15-2006, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tre

You can have the biggest brakes in the world and still not outbrake a stock car, if you're tires don't allow you too.

this is true, but everyone here pretty much runs nice rubber. with the exception of myself, who gets free takeoffs from a VW dealership, thanks to my roommate.

16" Passat 205/55/16's ftw

g6civcx · 05-15-2006, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tre

You can have the biggest brakes in the world and still not outbrake a stock car, if you're tires don't allow you too.

This may be true for a one-time emergency braking situation, but is not true for repetitive hard braking typical of roadracing. The stock brakes will start fading after several hot laps on a moderate to high speed course.

02-05-2006, 01:51 AM	#101
KA24DESOneThree Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: N. SD County SoCal Age: 23 Posts: 2,038 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KA24DESOneThree	I went through all of this and didn't see one critical thing: weights. How much do the Brembos weigh and how much do the Evo rotors weigh? This is critical information for anyone interested in keeping unsprung weight down. __________________ Your copycat car reflects your copycat life. Banned- Calguns.net 1/4/09

02-05-2006, 01:17 PM	#102
nsn240 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: lancaster Posts: 593 Trader Rating: (0)	this is an awesome idea, id like to hear your reaction to driving with them and then ill probably do this myself. Im sure plenty of people, including myself, would e interested in a "parts package" with the brackets and spacers __________________ mike

02-05-2006, 04:24 PM	#104
sXi Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0)	awesome. I just got my brake calipers off the 04 sti. I am shopping for the evo rotors now. and will fab the brackets out soon. Thank you for all the info. [IMG]htpp://stu.aii.edu/~xjl181/brembo/v.jpg[/IMG] Last edited by sXi; 02-05-2006 at 07:04 PM.

02-13-2006, 03:03 PM	#108
nlzmo400r Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: louisiana Posts: 1,238 Trader Rating: (0)	I just finished the whole setup myself. Must say that the 300zx m/c and maybe even the brake booster from the z32 is needed. They look great however. I used STi calipers/ evo rotors and ferrodo ds2500 pads with stainless lines all around. The brembo calipers are actually lighter than my previous z32 calipers. The rotors are however, a little heavier due to being much bigger. Of course going to an aluminum hat rotor would save lots of weight but cost lots more $$. If you're willing to spend the extra $$ for the lighter rotors, itd be lighter than a z32 set up im sure. Thanks for the idea krinkov. I'll get DRFT180 to post pics of my car with em on - Rob __________________ 'my drinking team has a racing problem' http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3.../DSC001552.jpg http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...DSC0001300.jpg 13.213@108.75mph - gt32 .6bar

02-19-2006, 02:20 PM	#113
JohnC Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 321 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: JohnC	Krinkov, Thanks for this I will be taking the STI calipers I have at home, from my suby days, and start working on this. We got the cars EU spec so they already came with 30mm Z32 calipers as standard so I guess I am upgrading an "upgraded" system. Ordered AP Racing rotors for Evo and ferodo pads. brembo's http://192.115.8.73/Images/a21.jpg I will be upgrading the rears and the link to cncbrakes.com setup got me looking for a more OE style setup and I came across this: http://www.prepfab.co.uk/Parts/ and their product: Hydraulic Handbrake (Std) This will enable me to keep a OE look to my handbrake. kind of pricey at 133 uk pounds. If someone knows of a place to get this similar setup/design for less let me know. and btw, If someone wants my Z32 30mm calipers let me know. __________________ John http://www.driftclub-il.com/johnc/Im...hn-tig-sig.jpg

12-09-2005, 10:27 AM	#91
driftking777 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 478 Trader Rating: (2)	just make sure once you get that ebrake setup working make sure to post that up to...congrats on getting everything fitted!

12-09-2005, 01:31 PM	#92
SoSideways Corgi massa Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: where old people go to die Posts: 3,325 Trader Rating: (3)	Hey Krinkov, you can try something like this: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=93175 I'm thinking about going that route, if I end up getting brake upgrades other than Z32 fronts.

12-11-2005, 05:04 AM	#93
andrewmp6 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: kentucky Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (0)	id like to see more pics of everything done you should make a kit and sell it

12-11-2005, 08:59 AM	#94
BIGBX1 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newnan,Ga Posts: 33 Trader Rating: (0)	This looks like a great brake upgrade, I will try it out on my next project thanks for sharing the tech info.

02-04-2006, 03:07 AM	#95
sXi Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0)	Krinkov, I've just purchased a whole brake system off a totaled 05 sti so the combo you used were front: sti caliper / front evo rotor rear: sti caliper / rear evo rotor I also got the ebrake from the sti. do you think it would work on the 240sx? for the evo rotors. any good place to buy them? you said the front sti rotor would not work. How about the rear sti rotors? Will you make me a set of brakets? I will pay for them ofcourse. Thanks for the clear up

02-04-2006, 01:54 PM	#96
white smoke Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: MD Posts: 66 Trader Rating: (0)	Very good info here. You should contact Fast Brakes and see if they will machine some brackets for you. If were looking at ~1500 for this setup I think many people will be interested. Another thing to note is that the paint on the Sti rotors blows the EVO's out of the watter. Who wants pink calipers? lol

02-04-2006, 03:55 PM	#97
DRFT180 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 365 Trader Rating: (1)	A friend of mine has just finished the rear (STI caliper/EVO rotor) and should be finishing the front tonight.

02-04-2006, 08:53 PM	#100
sXi Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0)	yeah. 04 sti were 100x 5 and 05 up is 114.3x5. Krinkov did tried the sti front rotors and there were not fitting because of the center hub hole was too smalls. and the evos were bolted right up. I belive the one that im getting is 04. so.. I will still need evo rotors. the ebrake still concerns me.

02-11-2006, 02:25 PM	#105
anyotherone Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 323 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: anyotherone	Great info! I'm picking up a set of STi brembos next week.

02-13-2006, 06:07 PM	#109
DRFT180 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 365 Trader Rating: (1)	^^4-lug too...............

02-13-2006, 06:43 PM	#110
turtl631 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 701 Trader Rating: (1)	has anyone calculated the bias on this setup?

02-15-2006, 06:08 AM	#112
SoSideways Corgi massa Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: where old people go to die Posts: 3,325 Trader Rating: (3)	Wow, that's pretty steep. The STi or Evo setup may run up to $1200 at the most (that I have seen on eBay anyways), but then again, those are used parts... And we're probably taking only like a few pounds of difference total between your Wilwood setup and this Brembo setup. So I guess if those few pounds are worth the extra grand, then go for it man, since it sounds really nice.

05-15-2006, 01:56 PM	#114
JohnC Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 321 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: JohnC	UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! REAR SOLUTION FOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Look at end of the thread!!!! Ignore the follwing comment! Rear Conversion Bad news for those wanting to keep the Z32 E-Brake. If you do not keep the E-Brake, No need to read further just fir the rotors and calipers. The evo Rotor will not fit over the Z32 ebrake assembly. Evo rotor inner diameter when new is 166mm and an allowed max of 168mm. I tried fitting the rotors over the assembly and it is a no go!! The z32 rear inner diameter is 172 and there you go, that makes all the difference. Sorry, just thought I would save others the disappointment. Finished the front. I went a little crazy and had TIG Engineering desgin me brackets. I know i could have kept it simple but since I had some other things for them to do I figured what the heck. I think they did a great job designing and eventually installing them. Brackets were $250 to design, manufacture and have them coated. If more will be made the price will be a lot cheaper. What do you think? Started with this: Brackets: Mounting: Mounted: Finished Product: __________________ John http://www.driftclub-il.com/johnc/Im...hn-tig-sig.jpg Last edited by JohnC; 04-19-2007 at 07:23 PM.

05-15-2006, 05:10 PM	#115
93 240sxfastback Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: CA Posts: 55 Trader Rating: (0)	Cool I'll put my evo brakes on my 240 and my 300zx brakes on my evo....

05-15-2006, 05:20 PM	#116
drew935 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Silver Creek - San Jose Posts: 994 Trader Rating: (0)	Looks good John. Did you do the rear as well? __________________ I'm driving fast -drew

05-15-2006, 05:20 PM	#117
tre Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 544 Trader Rating: (0)	You can have the biggest brakes in the world and still not outbrake a stock car, if you're tires don't allow you too. __________________ I didn't buy an Audi because it is a Great Car, but for more of a reason to be an asshole.

05-15-2006, 05:22 PM	#118
tre Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 544 Trader Rating: (0)	i hate not being able to edit, but shit looks hot haha __________________ I didn't buy an Audi because it is a Great Car, but for more of a reason to be an asshole.

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