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Old 11-04-2008, 09:11 PM   #361
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bam! that's the answer I was looking for through all the boosheet! lol thank you sir!
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This man speaks the truth. R34's on my old S14.



Right now I am doing Evo fronts on my S13. I will post up once I finish everything up.
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Then go buy some G35/350z Brembos They Fit as well. All you need to do is drill out the mounting holes to 14mm.
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ok,

As promised here are some pix of EVO-YES-EVO Rear Caliper On My S14...No Plate Needed...Details with pix next week when i install my HKS Coilover...



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Then go buy some G35/350z Brembos They Fit as well. All you need to do is drill out the mounting holes to 14mm.
Those things are heavy as heck.
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Those things are heavy as heck.
2-piece rotor > All

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The calipers are heavy.

They should make some cross-drilled and slotted calipers to save weight. Maybe i'll drill holes in mine.
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Excellent! I need the info maddly and can't wait for see how you did.

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As promised here are some pix of EVO-YES-EVO Rear Caliper On My S14...No Plate Needed...Details with pix next week when i install my HKS Coilover...



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Those things are heavy as heck.
And you think the brembo off the R34 is light weight? Its practically the same caliper. Its not like the STI/EVO brembos are light either.
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ok,

As promised here are some pix of EVO-YES-EVO Rear Caliper On My S14...No Plate Needed...Details with pix next week when i install my HKS Coilover...



I'm looking forward to hearing this
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I'm looking forward to hearing this

yeah mee too.
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And you think the brembo off the R34 is light weight? Its practically the same caliper. Its not like the STI/EVO brembo are light either.
Yes, actually those are lighter iirc.
No there different caliper from the Evo/STI. I believe the R34 is F50 series caliper. I forget the what the other ones are. I forget what STI and EVO's were. The 350z one is different from all the other brembo kits that they had on the skylines.

Brembo makes different kits for different manufactures. Nissan has 4 different ones for OEM non-tuned cars. I don't really know how many kit there are for different manufactures.
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I believe the R34 is F50 series caliper. I forget the what the other ones are.
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My Rear EVO ENDLESS Pads Said that they will fit on :

R32 - R33 - R34 - STI - EVO -

That's for rear brakes....
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Yes, actually those are lighter iirc.
No there different caliper from the Evo/STI. I believe the R34 is F50 series caliper. I forget the what the other ones are. I forget what STI and EVO's were. The 350z one is different from all the other brembo kits that they had on the skylines.

Brembo makes different kits for different manufactures. Nissan has 4 different ones for OEM non-tuned cars. I don't really know how many kit there are for different manufactures.
Yes i know Brembo makes different kits for different manufactures. Have you ever held a STI/EVO or CTS-V brembo caliper? They are heavy as heck too. The 350z/G35 brembo calipers are is slightly smaller than the R34 GTR brembo caliper. If i remember correctly, its based off the F40 caliper. The STI/EVO caliper is also based of the Brembo F50 caliper. Page 2 post #58 has already stated the STI calipers are Brembo F50 calipers. So if you want to go throwing around weight, stick with some Z32 alum 30mm calipers.
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Yes, actually those are lighter iirc.
No there different caliper from the Evo/STI. I believe the R34 is F50 series caliper. I forget the what the other ones are. I forget what STI and EVO's were. The 350z one is different from all the other brembo kits that they had on the skylines.

Brembo makes different kits for different manufactures. Nissan has 4 different ones for OEM non-tuned cars. I don't really know how many kit there are for different manufactures.

You're stil right but just to clear this up a bit


EVO calipers & sti calipers are found on the 456 GT Ferrari

F50's are found on the F40 and F50 but they have some ridge bumps at the top side of the caliper. Also the bolt hole locations are different from the R34 and the F50 calipers.
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Guys,

If you want "Light weight" Brembo caliper i have some options for you :

Merceds-Benz AMG E55 (6 piston front and 4 rear)
Jaguer XJR 2007+ (The Same)
MB AMG S63 (8 Piston Front And 4 Rear)


So I Don't Think The Caliper's weight will harm you...get 2-piece Rotor and you will save a ton of weight
Stock EVO Brembo Rotor = ~18Lbs
Brembo 2-piece Rotor = 11Lbs

Thats 7 Lbs PER Corner...

Happy,

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Ali, how did you get them to fit!! Do tell!!! lol I'm being inpatient!!
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soo!! where are the info!!!!!!
Sory,

I've been busy all week....Wrapped my front rotors on the track (Damn you ralliart pads) and bought a 300ZX BMC...

Time...give me Some Time...

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Those AMG and Jag brakes are great but who makes brake pads for them?... or OEM only?... I need race pads and currently run Hawk Blues or Carbotech XP10s...

I'm going to make my own adapters for the EVO calipers and I don't think I'll be able to "out race" them at all...

Point of diminishing returns for the race track... But for the show circuit I get it...
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Why don't you just get the azcar brakes??
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Those AMG and Jag brakes are great but who makes brake pads for them?... or OEM only?... I need race pads and currently run Hawk Blues or Carbotech XP10s...

I'm going to make my own adapters for the EVO calipers and I don't think I'll be able to "out race" them at all...

Point of diminishing returns for the race track... But for the show circuit I get it...
FYI

S63 AMG Run On 8-Piston Caliper Front A FOUR Pads...And 4-Piston Rear And Two Pads...Stop The Mamouth On A Dime = WAY WAY over Kill For S1x...

Oh And On The Track You Need Suspension - Tires - Brakes....Miss one = Fail <-- happend to me last week @ the track...Full EVO Brakes With "Race" Pads And Hankook S1 EVO Tires And STOCK-Repet-STOCK Suspension....

Results are :

2x Front Wrapped Rotors (Front).
Failed to make any decent Time.
humiliated my self.....

On the got side i 've got New-ish rotors with less then 2k miles on them..
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1226689475

Will post pix and detailes of the rear setup somwhere in the next week or two...

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How would stock suspension be responsible for warped rotors?
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How would stock suspension be responsible for warped rotors?

duno,

i'm asking the same qustion.....
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How would stock suspension be responsible for warped rotors?
+1 I would like to know as well.
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i would think the owner/driver is a bigger factor than the suspension
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ok,

As promised here are some pix of EVO-YES-EVO Rear Caliper On My S14...No Plate Needed...Details with pix next week when i install my HKS Coilover...



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Failed to make any decent Time.
Brake selection 101...

It's a simple equation that takes into account:

1. HP of the car
2. weight of the car
3. track layout
4. time on the track
5. tires
6. driving style (most important)

ALL BRAKES WILL LOCK THE TIRES IF YOU PUSH ON THEM HARD ENOUGH... Big or small...

The difference is how much brake modulation you have and how much heat the rotors and the fluid can withstand...

My old setup was stock brakes with race pads... They had no problem locking the fronts... The downside of the small brakes is that it's like an on/off switch when threshold braking(braking at the limit of traction)... Larger brake setups will give me more of a progressive feel as well as better "rate" of braking...

The other limitation is the front tires where I was running 245 street tires in the front but now I'm going to run 255 R compound tires... The larger the tire and softer the compound, the greater need for the larger brake modulation... But make no mistake, my old stock setup would be able to lock up the fronts with 255 R compound tires as well...

Track layout and HP affect how fast you will accelerate through the course and therefore need the brakes... With 155WHP, I was able to accelerate up to about 115MPH at the fastest section of Buttonwillow Raceway... With 300WHP I expect to raise that by at least 15MPH more so hence the brakes will feel it... Track layout is pretty simple to understand in that a smaller course will yield slower peak speeds but fast courses like California Speedway where you are at top speed is the opposite...

Last I want to say is driving style... That's why your rotors are warping... I always like to use the engine to brake the car tandem with the brakes for the purpose of saving the pads/rotors but also to keep the momentum of the engine up for corner exit... A lot of people make the mistake of learning how to drive on a high HP car and end up just looking for places to accelerate and brake instead of crusing through the course with finesse... It's a good idea to minimize the amount you use your brakes unless you are running a timed Time Attack lap where the car only needs to prove itself for 3 laps... Notice how Endurance drivers budget their brakes and Time Attack drivers just use as much as they can... I have videos of both driving my car...

Evo/Sti Brembos are perfect for us... Any bigger is not going to yield you any better braking... And if you can find the limit of Brembos with race pads, you are a pretty damn good driver...

Here is my buddy driving the Evasive Evo with stock brakes and Carbotech pads...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HxUtTZ3gEs
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