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| Zilvia Junkie ![]() | ka24de timing issue (pics) ok car is a 95 s14 ka24de. ka24det if it really matters. so it was running perfect until oil pump went out. so i pulled the motor and replaced the oil pump along with a new timing chain kit. everything was installed according to fsm specs. car starts and idles good. but as soon as i give it gas it kinda struggles. it doesnt rev up like it used to. so i check the timing with a timing gun. its obviously off but i have to turn the distributor fully clockwise just to get it close to stock timing which is 20 degrees btdc. now i know thats not normal but car runs a little better but its still not right. i can drive normally but as soon as i mash the gas pedal the car goes nowhere. power is not there... just feels and hears like the intake is sucking a lot of air. i took top chain off and took pics putting it back together. crank pulley set at tdc. ![]() cam lobes facing outward. ![]() timing chain marks lined up with cam sprocket marks. ![]() cant really see it but silver chain link lined up with mark on idle sprocket. ![]() distributor marks lined up before putting it in. ![]() cant really see it but how the dizzy marks look when inserted. ![]() dizzy rotor lined up with #1 wire ![]() so did i do anything wrong?
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| Nissanaholic! ![]() Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: tecate Age: 29
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Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews | mines non T lol, but i had the same prob when you stepped on the gas. the timing was all messed up. i did the same thing as you, pulled out the dis, and fixed it. also changed the fuel pump, fuel filter, cleaned the sparkplugs, and sprayed some w40 on the maf. buuut, you could start by checking the ecu if it flashes any codes ![]()
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| Nissanaholic! ![]() Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orange Park, FL
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Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews | Quote:
As for no power - My money is on plugs wires out of order. It will start and idle fine if you mix up #2 and #3... ...i.e., firing order is 1-3-4-2 (going counter-clockwise on the distributor) ![]() If you have it 1-2-4-3, it will start and idle just like normal...but drive for shit. No power. So check that. - Brian
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| Zilvia Junkie ![]() | Quote:
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so can you tell where im a tooth off? if i have all the marks lined up do i just move the chain a tooth over to the right or left?
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| Zilvia Junkie ![]() | im using a z32 n62 maf
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| Nissanaholic! ![]() Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orange Park, FL
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You need to move it whatever way it needs to be moved so that ~20 BTDC is in the middle of the adjustment. Set it to TDC on #1, and use the #1 plug wire as a reference...and move the dizzy so that the rotor is pointing towards ~11-o'clock. - Brian
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| Zilvia FREAK! ![]() | your a tooth off on the dis restab the dis when u stab it wiggle the rotor so it clicks in your dis shaft picture you need to line up the mark shaft with the mark on gear(DIMPLE) left of where it is in the picture irrc i will check to make sure from fsm when i get back on the computer for you
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| Nissanaholic! ![]() Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orange Park, FL
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Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews | ^^^ What he said, kinda. You're a tooth off on the distributor. No matter what the marks show, it should be at 20-degrees when the dizzy is in the middle of the adjustment range. (EDITED - NVM, reread) - Brian
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| Zilvia Junkie ![]() | can anyone take a pic of their dizzy at tdc? i've tried putting the dizzy in many different ways but it still has to be adjusted away from the middle...
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| Zilvia Addict ![]() | tdc on the rotor should point around 9-10 o' clock. and spark plug 1 on the distributor cap can be lined up right before the rotor. doesnt have to be right dead in the center. like everyone said you can be a tooth off, so try rotating the dizzy. also...when you insert the dizzy, the rotor will rotate slightly clockwise. so make sure that prior to inserting the dizzy, the dot doesnt line up with the groove. have the dot line up a few mm to the left so that way once the dizzy is inserted and it rotates, it lines up when its in position. |
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| Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: jacksonville, fl Age: 28
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Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews | Same here idle is fine but from idle to approx 3000rpms its bogs amd is dumping fuel, I got a new distributer from oreilly auto parts and im still having the same issue |
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| Nissanaholic! ![]() Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: 661,Lancaster,CA
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Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews | Is there a new or different method of approaching this? I have the exact same problem and done everything this guy did. I am pretty sure i'm off a tooth any help will be appreciated. don't wanna start a new thread
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