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*WakeBHR* · 08-18-2009, 01:25 AM

Man me and my friends have been talking about that exact setup for about 3 years now, we just dont have the resources to pull it off. Its really good to see that theres till some innovative minds out there with the patience to pull it off.

+1 from me

*!Zar!* · 08-18-2009, 02:33 AM

Khmerguy618 had a supercharger setup that he ran for a while.

Probably will post up pics and info soon.

If not I will.

*ManoNegra* · 08-18-2009, 09:51 AM

WagDatto is piecing together one too
there are vids of a few on youtube aswell...

inuyasha3466 · 08-18-2009, 10:52 AM

Nice! The set up looks pretty good too.

240_fun · 08-18-2009, 11:13 AM

that is absolutly sick... if you can get a kit in production i would totally sell my KAT for it

SleepySR · 08-19-2009, 09:09 PM

I started to do a mild port job on the head tonight (cleaning up the ports and casting marks , gasket matching) before the head joins the block at the machine shop.

weisco 9:1 std bore
rings
Nissan OEM main and rod bearings on order .
picks tommorrow when i finish porting the head.

*S14_Kouki* · 08-19-2009, 09:16 PM

very nice I would of expected alittle more torque but its really cool to see what supercharged ka can do keep up the good work.

SleepySR · 08-20-2009, 05:50 PM

I also expected more torque than horsepower . I wish I dyno'd the stock motor to have a base line to go buy . New engine should be in by next weekend , and my friend is going to do a before and after on his S13 in the coming weeks with a similar set up.

homeeninja · 08-20-2009, 10:17 PM

how did you make your adaptor or did you use thomas knight kit b/c i talkd to him awhile and his whole kit was around 1300+ w/o charger or is yours alil cheaper than his pm me soon need to know asap

thanx man

Gorilla Unit 33 · 08-20-2009, 10:32 PM

I was on Ka-t.org a little bit ago and no one could ever remember seeing a dyno sheet at 300whp for a s/c ka, but i thought that would be sick! i have always been intrested in s/c my car but without seeing further proof of 300+ capabilities it really turned me off. Theres not a doubt in my mind that with a mild port job, pistons and some 248's you could reach that.... and if so that means that i'll be making plans for my car come december, even though my own car hasnt even hit the streets yet this summer lol. Why did you choose to use the q45 tb instead of the n60 that i see alot of people running? or is it basically the same? also if your going to cnc would you be making a smaller pulley as well? the only puleys i can find are all aluminum and i would much rather use one with a steel main sleeve and maybe and interchangeable outer pulley?

*wgJoY* · 08-20-2009, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleepySR

As far as producing these we"ll see.

At this time we're still in the prototype stage. During this first run of CNC parts were trying to finalize the design as bullet proof as possible while keeping it cost effective . Due to the intricate detail in the CNC file, the cost of the CNC running time can be rather costly. With that being said, were trying to find a more cost competitive shop because CNC time for these parts are costly, because more time in the machine = more money. When, and if, the product is finished we will then determine if it'll be cost effective enough to try producing the parts in limited quantities.

Sorry this is not the answer you probably wanted but if i quoted you a price now I'd be lying to you and myself. Right now there is just too many variables that are unknown and nothing is solid yet . We don't have finalized machining times and material prices based on volume. Pricing TBA when we know all the details. Feel free to check back in 2-3 weeks and hopefully well have more info on the details.

That's enough of an answer to have my subscription to this thread.

*VQMaxFan* · 08-21-2009, 02:17 AM

very nice.

Ill have to show this thread to a friend, he has the plate and s/c and most of the parts he needs to s/c his car. He has just been lazy to getting around to it, mebey this will help him get off his ass lol

CT93S13 · 08-21-2009, 02:55 AM

I would definitely be interested in purchasing this upgrade for my KA!! keep up the good work!! decent power and torque gains no doubt!! Looking forward to hearing of your progress!!

stealthsr20 · 08-21-2009, 03:14 AM

i have two ka's and i sold one with an install, just waiting for the car and one for play time. This is a grat idea because i love the power band that it makes. keep us posted on your updates and maybe a video of it running.

SleepySR · 08-21-2009, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homeeninja

how did you make your adaptor or did you use thomas knight kit b/c i talkd to him awhile and his whole kit was around 1300+ w/o charger or is yours alil cheaper than his pm me soon need to know asap

thanx man

We started this in Nov, of 2008 every thing is cnc'd from 6061 T6 aluminum except the alternator/tensioner bracket which is made of 7075 T6 because of some Solid Works FEA testing. By using the 7075 T6 the alternator/tensioner bracket is 13 times stronger than needed. We came up with our own mounting and brackets for this set up based upon some modeling/CAD we did in Solid Works.

As far as pricing there are to many unknown variables to date , but were are hoping to be more affordable than Thomas Knights kit.

SleepySR · 08-21-2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorilla Unit 33

I was on Ka-t.org a little bit ago and no one could ever remember seeing a dyno sheet at 300whp for a s/c ka, but i thought that would be sick! i have always been intrested in s/c my car but without seeing further proof of 300+ capabilities it really turned me off. Theres not a doubt in my mind that with a mild port job, pistons and some 248's you could reach that.... and if so that means that i'll be making plans for my car come december, even though my own car hasnt even hit the streets yet this summer lol. Why did you choose to use the q45 tb instead of the n60 that i see alot of people running? or is it basically the same? also if your going to cnc would you be making a smaller pulley as well? the only puleys i can find are all aluminum and i would much rather use one with a steel main sleeve and maybe and interchangeable outer pulley?

As for as us producing pulleys , at this moment we don't have the capabilitiesor contacts that has a CNC lathe to make our own pulleys.

The reason behind the Q45 TB and Q45 MAF , is to free up inlet restrictions . On a supercharged set up your drawing air through the intake piping not forcing it through like a turbo set up . Imagine trying to breath with a coffee straw , then breathing through a 7/11 Slurpee straw . By using these parts we gained 2-3 psi with out swapping the pulley.

SleepySR · 08-24-2009, 09:48 PM

Block is at the machine shop 9:1 wiesco's , arp rod bolts , OEM bearings . heads getting a 3 angle valve job w/ new guides and seals. Rotating assembly is going to be balanced . Pictures of the rebuild when it comes back from the machine shop, and i get all the parts back from the powder coater.

Devil Man · 08-25-2009, 12:26 AM

get some pics and specs of the sc and the plate and brackets while its off the motor and what not. i want to see what this all looks like. keep us posted.

Gorilla Unit 33 · 08-25-2009, 01:31 AM

Understood now

good thinking, i would have never thought of that. What did you do as far as tensioners?

DrftKid(^_^) · 08-25-2009, 01:45 AM

WOW!!!! That's so freaken sweet I wish I still had my KA..nice work that's so unique. I bet u really pop eyes...lol

Grantspec · 09-25-2009, 08:27 AM

Any updates on this thing?? How did you run your IACV?

*Ceepo* · 09-25-2009, 02:56 PM

Wow this is awesome, did you ever sell your s14 i saw it for sale a ffew weeks back...

WISH ONE · 09-25-2009, 03:01 PM

I have one of the superchargers sitting around somewhere from when I worked at nissan... maybe ill screw with it finally lol

DailyDrivenS14 · 09-25-2009, 03:57 PM

who did your plate to mount the sc to the mani? I made some and wanna know if it works lol got the whole setup just havent installed yet because we are trying to fogure out how to do a belt tensioner...

jzepol1985 · 09-25-2009, 06:18 PM

you can find superchargers starting at a $100.

*chibo* · 09-25-2009, 06:45 PM

Any updates on this?

DailyDrivenS14 · 09-26-2009, 03:29 PM

well i can make the sc to manifold adapter plate if anyone needs it. I would really like to know if this is one i made to know for sure that there are no issues.... Get back to me Sleepy

xxxblingxxx · 10-08-2009, 08:50 AM

I am intrested in the pulley system specs. I got charger off xterra. I need plated for manifold and spec on pulley set up .

*fromxtor* · 10-08-2009, 08:58 AM

Sleepy is that Kyle's car?

s14unimog · 10-08-2009, 03:24 PM

That's a pretty awesome setup you've got there and props for the Solid Works skills; Life is better with Inventer though

. One thing I wonder about is why haven't we seen centrifugal units yet. Typical excuse might be that they are all too large but Rotrex makes them quite small and with lower HP consumption through the belt system than your typical rotory lobe or screw type....

If you are looking for some CNC help, I can quote you 3 axis work.

08-18-2009, 02:33 AM	#32
!Zar! Ezel verkrachtende schijteter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Milf Valley Posts: 9,450 Trader Rating: (2)	Khmerguy618 had a supercharger setup that he ran for a while. Probably will post up pics and info soon. If not I will. __________________ -=Mel=-

08-18-2009, 09:51 AM	#33
ManoNegra Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: SoCali Posts: 4,712 Trader Rating: (27)	WagDatto is piecing together one too there are vids of a few on youtube aswell... __________________ S-Chassis/Z32 Rear Upright Spherical Bearing Group Buy

08-19-2009, 09:09 PM	#36
SleepySR Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: @ Petty Enterprise Age: 29 Posts: 138 Trader Rating: (0)	I started to do a mild port job on the head tonight (cleaning up the ports and casting marks , gasket matching) before the head joins the block at the machine shop. weisco 9:1 std bore rings Nissan OEM main and rod bearings on order . picks tommorrow when i finish porting the head. __________________

08-20-2009, 05:50 PM	#38
SleepySR Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: @ Petty Enterprise Age: 29 Posts: 138 Trader Rating: (0)	I also expected more torque than horsepower . I wish I dyno'd the stock motor to have a base line to go buy . New engine should be in by next weekend , and my friend is going to do a before and after on his S13 in the coming weeks with a similar set up. __________________

08-20-2009, 10:32 PM	#40
Gorilla Unit 33 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philly Posts: 279 Trader Rating: (1)	I was on Ka-t.org a little bit ago and no one could ever remember seeing a dyno sheet at 300whp for a s/c ka, but i thought that would be sick! i have always been intrested in s/c my car but without seeing further proof of 300+ capabilities it really turned me off. Theres not a doubt in my mind that with a mild port job, pistons and some 248's you could reach that.... and if so that means that i'll be making plans for my car come december, even though my own car hasnt even hit the streets yet this summer lol. Why did you choose to use the q45 tb instead of the n60 that i see alot of people running? or is it basically the same? also if your going to cnc would you be making a smaller pulley as well? the only puleys i can find are all aluminum and i would much rather use one with a steel main sleeve and maybe and interchangeable outer pulley? __________________ gorillaunit33.wordpress.com

08-18-2009, 10:52 AM	#34
inuyasha3466 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Age: 25 Posts: 17 Trader Rating: (2)	Nice! The set up looks pretty good too.

08-18-2009, 11:13 AM	#35
240_fun Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pennington Age: 19 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (1)	that is absolutly sick... if you can get a kit in production i would totally sell my KAT for it

08-19-2009, 09:16 PM	#37
S14_Kouki VIPremium Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TPA Posts: 1,453 Trader Rating: (0)	very nice I would of expected alittle more torque but its really cool to see what supercharged ka can do keep up the good work.

08-20-2009, 10:17 PM	#39
homeeninja Join Date: May 2003 Location: chattanooga,TN Posts: 23 Trader Rating: (0)	how did you make your adaptor or did you use thomas knight kit b/c i talkd to him awhile and his whole kit was around 1300+ w/o charger or is yours alil cheaper than his pm me soon need to know asap thanx man

08-21-2009, 02:17 AM	#42
VQMaxFan Wrinkle Red = Vtak Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mobile AL Age: 20 Posts: 318 Trader Rating: (0)	very nice. Ill have to show this thread to a friend, he has the plate and s/c and most of the parts he needs to s/c his car. He has just been lazy to getting around to it, mebey this will help him get off his ass lol

08-21-2009, 02:55 AM	#43
CT93S13 Join Date: May 2009 Location: CT Age: 26 Posts: 9 Trader Rating: (0)	I would definitely be interested in purchasing this upgrade for my KA!! keep up the good work!! decent power and torque gains no doubt!! Looking forward to hearing of your progress!!

08-21-2009, 03:14 AM	#44
stealthsr20 Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: oklahoma Age: 25 Posts: 138 Trader Rating: (2)	i have two ka's and i sold one with an install, just waiting for the car and one for play time. This is a grat idea because i love the power band that it makes. keep us posted on your updates and maybe a video of it running.

08-24-2009, 09:48 PM	#47
SleepySR Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: @ Petty Enterprise Age: 29 Posts: 138 Trader Rating: (0)	Block is at the machine shop 9:1 wiesco's , arp rod bolts , OEM bearings . heads getting a 3 angle valve job w/ new guides and seals. Rotating assembly is going to be balanced . Pictures of the rebuild when it comes back from the machine shop, and i get all the parts back from the powder coater. __________________

08-25-2009, 01:31 AM	#49
Gorilla Unit 33 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philly Posts: 279 Trader Rating: (1)	Understood now good thinking, i would have never thought of that. What did you do as far as tensioners? __________________ gorillaunit33.wordpress.com

08-25-2009, 01:45 AM	#50
DrftKid(^_^) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Santa Ana Age: 19 Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0)	WOW!!!! That's so freaken sweet I wish I still had my KA..nice work that's so unique. I bet u really pop eyes...lol

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09-25-2009, 08:27 AM	#51
Grantspec Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 21 Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (1)	Any updates on this thing?? How did you run your IACV?

09-25-2009, 02:56 PM	#52
Ceepo Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cedar City, Utah Posts: 1,239 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: Ceepo	Wow this is awesome, did you ever sell your s14 i saw it for sale a ffew weeks back... __________________ 1995 240sx SE (current)

09-25-2009, 03:01 PM	#53
WISH ONE In time-out for misbehaving. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Age: 22 Posts: 1,175 Trader Rating: (2)	I have one of the superchargers sitting around somewhere from when I worked at nissan... maybe ill screw with it finally lol

09-25-2009, 03:57 PM	#54
DailyDrivenS14 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nashville Posts: 18 Trader Rating: (1)	who did your plate to mount the sc to the mani? I made some and wanna know if it works lol got the whole setup just havent installed yet because we are trying to fogure out how to do a belt tensioner...

09-25-2009, 06:18 PM	#55
jzepol1985 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 118 Trader Rating: (0)	you can find superchargers starting at a $100.

09-25-2009, 06:45 PM	#56
chibo I'm back. :sadface: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tempe and Scottsdale, Arizona Age: 22 Posts: 1,372 Trader Rating: (0)	Any updates on this? __________________

09-26-2009, 03:29 PM	#57
DailyDrivenS14 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nashville Posts: 18 Trader Rating: (1)	well i can make the sc to manifold adapter plate if anyone needs it. I would really like to know if this is one i made to know for sure that there are no issues.... Get back to me Sleepy

10-08-2009, 08:50 AM	#58
xxxblingxxx Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: atlanta Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0)	I am intrested in the pulley system specs. I got charger off xterra. I need plated for manifold and spec on pulley set up .

10-08-2009, 08:58 AM	#59
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10-08-2009, 03:24 PM	#60
s14unimog Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: under my car Age: 23 Posts: 1,466 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: s14unimog	That's a pretty awesome setup you've got there and props for the Solid Works skills; Life is better with Inventer though . One thing I wonder about is why haven't we seen centrifugal units yet. Typical excuse might be that they are all too large but Rotrex makes them quite small and with lower HP consumption through the belt system than your typical rotory lobe or screw type.... If you are looking for some CNC help, I can quote you 3 axis work. __________________ Fuking ginger bread man stole my wallet... SHIFT*lock_slide to side d3m3rs0n: if i have a baby im naming it Brandons Fault Emerson

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