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s0apgun · 06-30-2009, 06:51 PM

not angry

the v1 arms like dan said were not intended to run excessive camber they're to be used for correcting negative camber

w00tang refuses to accept that and still wants to run -4 camber and dan being a bang up guy offers to give him a pair of the new v3 so he can run his camber with all the clearance he wants

which dan didn't have to do but did probably because w00tang has bought many of their parts and supported them (patting eachother on the back)

then you brian come in here complaining that he's getting a part hookup and you can't even get a discount for an upgrade, what kind of a slap in the face is that?

simple enough v1 WORK fine for correcting negative camber but not for running excessive camber like most of the people on zilvia want and get mad when it won't clear, as far as other rubbing issues it depends on the strut design

*brian m* · 06-30-2009, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0apgun

which dan didn't have to do but did probably because w00tang has bought many of their parts and supported them (patting eachother on the back)

then you brian come in here complaining that he's getting a part hookup and you can't even get a discount for an upgrade, what kind of a slap in the face is that?

simple enough v1 WORK fine for correcting negative camber but not for running excessive camber like most of the people on zilvia want and get mad when it won't clear, as far as other rubbing issues it depends on the strut design

V1 won't work fine if they rub the spindle when the suspension gets compressed, which is why it was corrected in V2. Not so simple is the fact that they put a product out there that isn't fully developed around the world, just for running their products without telling potential customers the problems they might run into.

Being a customer oriented business doesn't mean the customer pays the company to do the R&D for them and when they give the feedback, tell the customer to pay full price for the improved version, which is why a certain company gives the customer a 1 time upgrade.

s0ap...

LoanShark · 06-30-2009, 07:19 PM

Yup, v1 are to be used with shocks and springs cause they wont clear old skinny coils and definately not the new fat coils like their own.

I remember when they first came out. They advertized the angle for more clearance and suspension geometry and whatever else for ''extra low cars''. Thats what it said.
I was like OH SHI- I NEED DIS.

Brian, we got punk'd.

*babowc* · 06-30-2009, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stpnov73

Is it possible that you are using an s14 ruca and not an s13? Most s13 rucas I've seen completely encircle the coilovers.

btw..
PBM rucas are all "half-moon" styles.

s0apgun.. I want to run enough negative camber to fit my wheel/tire combo.. like LoanShark stated, they advertised the arms and coilovers for extra low applications. If I'm any lower from where I'm at, I'll be rubbing the shock casing, versus the collar. My car is currently pretty low too.. right about tucking a stretched 35 series tire.

LoanShark · 06-30-2009, 07:48 PM

Its a misunderstanding. s0ap thinks the only reason it rubs is cause we are all running -4 which would be hard in my case since the car was completely off the ground during a failed attempt to install. It rubs no matter what. End of story.
Unless you're on AGX/Sportlines. Then, they will fix your camber...without rubbing. Ooh bonus!

why am i so vexed? It was a (small) headache I could've did without.

s0apgun · 06-30-2009, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoanShark

Its a misunderstanding. s0ap thinks the only reason it rubs is cause we are all running -4 which would be hard in my case since the car was completely off the ground during a failed attempt to install. It rubs no matter what. End of story.
Unless you're on AGX/Sportlines. Then, they will fix your camber...without rubbing. Ooh bonus!

why am i so vexed? It was a (small) headache I could've did without.

putting words in my mouth but k

240sxScores · 06-30-2009, 09:55 PM

Shouldnt they have found these issues in R&D before they decided to sell the V1's to public. Or maybe they did mock up using really skinny shocks. But they shoulda thought of other brands being thicker right. And i bought them because they were cost effective and advertised for super low cars and they were designed for cars with lots of camber right?

DC Dan MAX USA · 06-30-2009, 10:49 PM

nice job with the conspiracy theory guys

now settle down, dont get too ridiculous like Im not here all day long every day for the past two years servicing customers, listening and responding to their wants and needs, and constantly improving product based on those needs faster than any big company. I never claimed to have the perfect product, just trying to make a good stuff at a good price so take it easy. When it says were just a couple of drifters making parts that we want for our own cars its not marketing hype. MAX is not full of suspension engineers, it aint no damn corporation, we do learn more things as we go, we have our own ideas about the way we like things & we're not out to please everyone. If you're feeling our unique style and where we are going with things, thats great but if you're not you can buy elsewhere. No one can blame me for those things!

anyone who wishes to trade up from V1 to V3 camber arms can contact me for a reduced price

aztek_s13 · 08-26-2009, 08:47 PM

^on your website it only lists a verII ruca and says nothing about applying to the s13 chassis. has a bunch of japanese stuff then s14,s15 and more japanese characters. is version 2 also version 3? and does this also apply to the s13 chassis? thanks

06-30-2009, 10:49 PM	#38
DC Dan MAX USA Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,435 Trader Rating: (39)	nice job with the conspiracy theory guys now settle down, dont get too ridiculous like Im not here all day long every day for the past two years servicing customers, listening and responding to their wants and needs, and constantly improving product based on those needs faster than any big company. I never claimed to have the perfect product, just trying to make a good stuff at a good price so take it easy. When it says were just a couple of drifters making parts that we want for our own cars its not marketing hype. MAX is not full of suspension engineers, it aint no damn corporation, we do learn more things as we go, we have our own ideas about the way we like things & we're not out to please everyone. If you're feeling our unique style and where we are going with things, thats great but if you're not you can buy elsewhere. No one can blame me for those things! anyone who wishes to trade up from V1 to V3 camber arms can contact me for a reduced price __________________ #1 FAQ: How To order: (A) Ask me for a parts quote with shipping to your postal code (B) Send payment to maxusa@poweredbymax.net on www.paypal.com (C) Please write the item description in the "Email to recipient" notes section Last edited by DC Dan MAX USA; 06-30-2009 at 11:10 PM.

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06-30-2009, 06:51 PM	#31
s0apgun In time-out for misbehaving. Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (11)	not angry the v1 arms like dan said were not intended to run excessive camber they're to be used for correcting negative camber w00tang refuses to accept that and still wants to run -4 camber and dan being a bang up guy offers to give him a pair of the new v3 so he can run his camber with all the clearance he wants which dan didn't have to do but did probably because w00tang has bought many of their parts and supported them (patting eachother on the back) then you brian come in here complaining that he's getting a part hookup and you can't even get a discount for an upgrade, what kind of a slap in the face is that? simple enough v1 WORK fine for correcting negative camber but not for running excessive camber like most of the people on zilvia want and get mad when it won't clear, as far as other rubbing issues it depends on the strut design

06-30-2009, 07:19 PM	#33
LoanShark Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N/A Age: 28 Posts: 173 Trader Rating: (0)	Yup, v1 are to be used with shocks and springs cause they wont clear old skinny coils and definately not the new fat coils like their own. I remember when they first came out. They advertized the angle for more clearance and suspension geometry and whatever else for ''extra low cars''. Thats what it said. I was like OH SHI- I NEED DIS. Brian, we got punk'd.

06-30-2009, 07:48 PM	#35
LoanShark Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N/A Age: 28 Posts: 173 Trader Rating: (0)	Its a misunderstanding. s0ap thinks the only reason it rubs is cause we are all running -4 which would be hard in my case since the car was completely off the ground during a failed attempt to install. It rubs no matter what. End of story. Unless you're on AGX/Sportlines. Then, they will fix your camber...without rubbing. Ooh bonus! why am i so vexed? It was a (small) headache I could've did without.

06-30-2009, 09:55 PM	#37
240sxScores Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: New River, NC Age: 23 Posts: 205 Trader Rating: (0)	Shouldnt they have found these issues in R&D before they decided to sell the V1's to public. Or maybe they did mock up using really skinny shocks. But they shoulda thought of other brands being thicker right. And i bought them because they were cost effective and advertised for super low cars and they were designed for cars with lots of camber right?

08-26-2009, 08:47 PM	#39
aztek_s13 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ATL subs Posts: 1 Trader Rating: (0)	^on your website it only lists a verII ruca and says nothing about applying to the s13 chassis. has a bunch of japanese stuff then s14,s15 and more japanese characters. is version 2 also version 3? and does this also apply to the s13 chassis? thanks