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Broaner · 06-28-2006, 08:39 PM

Funny how people don't read sigs.

TurboB15sentra · 06-29-2006, 04:32 AM

Hey.. I didn't mean any disrespect or anything, if that's what you meant by that comment. I don't know "every" single person who's performed this swap. I know and talk to Allen.. so, that's why I mentioned his name.. I also said "others", which would entail those that I don't know of.

I put a lot of time and effort into doing swaps in other vehicles.. so I know how much work it is. That's why I give credit where it's due..

Good job..

Travis

Broaner · 06-29-2006, 08:23 AM

I wasn't implying you at all man. More "Tre"...

Anyway, thanks. Definitely hit me up if you've got questions.

Good luck with it.

TurboB15sentra · 06-30-2006, 06:40 PM

I think we have the body line worked out on this side.. now I have to glaze/block the other side.. This is a LOT of work.. lol

Broaner · 07-03-2006, 12:10 PM

Are those Version Select fenders? You got those to fit very well. Are they the widebody or OEM width? Cars looking good. I plan on doing the both lines on mine in a couple years.

SR240DET · 07-03-2006, 01:33 PM

what are you guys going to do about the speedometer? How are you going to hook it up?

tiresmokes13 · 07-03-2006, 02:14 PM

looks nice..hope to see more pics soon

SR240DET · 07-03-2006, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiresmokes13

speedo? who needs a speedo? all of the custom work that will be done for this and what not and you ask about the speedo haha sorry just find it funny...is the ac going to work too? jk

looks nice..hope to see more pics soon

hmmm... what was the point of that?

TurboB15sentra · 07-03-2006, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broaner

Are those Version Select fenders? You got those to fit very well. Are they the widebody or OEM width? Cars looking good. I plan on doing the both lines on mine in a couple years.

Not sure... I got them from Venus, along with the hood.. Honestly, I just wanted OEM fenders, but they sent me these instead..

I have been fighting with fitment, and, after some grinding/drilling, I have them bolted up and fitting pretty well.

The lower body line was out of the question for me... too much work..

TurboB15sentra · 07-03-2006, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SR240DET

what are you guys going to do about the speedometer? How are you going to hook it up?

I haven't looked at the speedometer signals between the Z and 240sx transmission.. But, we're probably going to use a microprocessor based system to convert the Tach, speedo and water temp signals to what the 240sx cluster is looking for. We did a similar box for our VQ swap into the Sentra chassis.. It converts the tach signal and actually controls the A/C system as well.

That was the prototype unit.. it worked out great.. here's the final version, which has several more input/output pins for more flexibility..

Travis

TurboB15sentra · 07-03-2006, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiresmokes13

is the ac going to work too?

It should.. just have to get the lines made for the compressor to condensor/evaporator.. The A/C will be cycled on/off using a timer based system, through the microprocessor. Basically, the compressor reads off of the pressure sensor, as a failsafe, and, as long as it doesn't get out of hand, pressure wise, the processor turns the A/C relay on/off, on a timed circuit, preset in a DOS program.

Travis

***S14DB*** · 07-03-2006, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboB15sentra

It should.. just have to get the lines made for the compressor to condensor/evaporator.. The A/C will be cycled on/off using a timer based system, through the microprocessor. Basically, the compressor reads off of the pressure sensor, as a failsafe, and, as long as it doesn't get out of hand, pressure wise, the processor turns the A/C relay on/off, on a timed circuit, preset in a DOS program.

Travis

Have a WOT swtich to disable the AC?

TurboB15sentra · 07-03-2006, 05:17 PM

Yup.. it's built into the system.. If the TPS voltage gets above 3.5 volts, the processor's cycle is interupted, and the A/C relay open circuits.. Once it falls back below 3.5 volts, the A/C cycle is started again.

SR240DET · 07-03-2006, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboB15sentra

I haven't looked at the speedometer signals between the Z and 240sx transmission.. But, we're probably going to use a microprocessor based system to convert the Tach, speedo and water temp signals to what the 240sx cluster is looking for. We did a similar box for our VQ swap into the Sentra chassis.. It converts the tach signal and actually controls the A/C system as well.

That was the prototype unit.. it worked out great.. here's the final version, which has several more input/output pins for more flexibility..

Travis

once you get somthing together ill buy one

TurboB15sentra · 07-04-2006, 02:21 AM

that's cool.. I'll keep you updated..

Broaner · 07-04-2006, 02:18 PM

SR240DET, I'm not sure if you were asking both of us. I run no speedo. All other guages are aftermarket. Water temp, oil temp, oil press, fuel press, tach, etc...

Thats some slick stuff Travis. So you're really going to try to keep this a civil daily. Impressive.

TurboB15sentra · 07-05-2006, 12:03 AM

Yup.. fully functional with A/C and heat, stock guages, and heated/power 350z seats!

SR240DET · 07-05-2006, 03:01 PM

if this was a track car then i would run no speedometer, but i need A/C here in florida and working guages since its a daily driver. I understand there is a guy out there that makes the spacer for the TO bearing but i cant get ahold of him anymore if you guys know where i can find this spacer, or specs to get one made at the machine shop that would be great.

TurboB15sentra · 07-05-2006, 04:40 PM

The only reason you would need that spacer, is if you were to run the VQ30 flywheel. The VQ35 flywheel sticks out further. The VQ30 flywheel must be used if the VQ30 ECU/harness is used. People who have done this swap, like to run the VQ stuff, because it doesn't entail using the immobilizer system and drive by wire. There is NO VQ35 ECU that doesn't use the immob and drive by wire.. There is a big ring on the outside of the flywheel, with a pickup sensor.. this is how the ECU knows where the engine is at in it's rotation, in relation to TDC. The teeth on the VQ30 and VQ35 rings are completely incompatible.. so, you can't use a VQ35 flywheel, with a VQ30 ECU, and vice-versa. However, I will be using the VQ35 ECU and harness.. and converting to drive by wire. I have plenty of knowledge about the control system, since I have been doing VQ swaps into the Sentra for the past year or so. So, I will retain the CVTC system, and I'll be able to use the 350z flywheel/clutch.. eliminating the need for a custom spacer.

Travis

*Xren17* · 07-05-2006, 08:01 PM

Awesome work especially with thte speedo and AC controller.

Broaner · 07-06-2006, 12:31 PM

That is all correct about the flywheel/sensor ring issues. The guy that made my spacer is on FA mostly. His SN is insndrv. The spacer pushes the Bearing 29mm away from the carrier and TO arm. The 29mm is the only important spec. All the the other specs can be gathered by ripping apart an OEM Z TO bearing.

SR240DET · 07-06-2006, 01:17 PM

thanks broaner

SR240DET · 08-24-2006, 10:12 PM

just seeing if there are any updates yet,... also do you know if the VG30 transmission fits? it looks similar but idunno.

*drifter808* · 08-24-2006, 10:31 PM

theres an article about this swap into an S14 in september Sport Compact Car. Should pick it up it explains just about everything here

TipStylez · 08-24-2006, 11:46 PM

AWWWW, you went with the vented front fenders...

That just look alot out of the smoothness of the body...i hate thos fenders.

But anyways, how much hp are you expecting and are you gonna make this a track car or all show?

onesickskyline · 08-25-2006, 12:23 PM

damn that is sweet, dont see too many of them swaps

Rusker · 08-25-2006, 05:10 PM

Impressive. I will check this thread often.

SinisterSntra91 · 03-24-2008, 11:59 PM

Thread revival.....What ever happened to this?

*babowc* · 03-25-2008, 12:02 AM

um..
almost 2 years ago?...

no update?
OP hasn't visited since 07-2006?

PROBABLY NOTHING.

SinisterSntra91 · 03-25-2008, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w00tang

um..
almost 2 years ago?...

no update?
OP hasn't visited since 07-2006?

PROBABLY NOTHING.

Thats my guess too, but I wasnt sure if anyone on here knew the guy....

06-28-2006, 08:39 PM	#31
Broaner Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Madison, WI Age: 23 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0)	Funny how people don't read sigs. __________________ VQ Powered S13 Coupe Homepage Video of the first VQ powered S13. Since people keep asking I guess I should say I do sidework. Regular stuff to motor swaps if you desire. PM me.

06-29-2006, 04:32 AM	#32
TurboB15sentra Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 29 Posts: 241 Trader Rating: (0)	Hey.. I didn't mean any disrespect or anything, if that's what you meant by that comment. I don't know "every" single person who's performed this swap. I know and talk to Allen.. so, that's why I mentioned his name.. I also said "others", which would entail those that I don't know of. I put a lot of time and effort into doing swaps in other vehicles.. so I know how much work it is. That's why I give credit where it's due.. Good job.. Travis __________________ www.fi-r.net Nissan Performance

06-29-2006, 08:23 AM	#33
Broaner Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Madison, WI Age: 23 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0)	I wasn't implying you at all man. More "Tre"... Anyway, thanks. Definitely hit me up if you've got questions. Good luck with it. __________________ VQ Powered S13 Coupe Homepage Video of the first VQ powered S13. Since people keep asking I guess I should say I do sidework. Regular stuff to motor swaps if you desire. PM me.

06-30-2006, 06:40 PM	#34
TurboB15sentra Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 29 Posts: 241 Trader Rating: (0)	I think we have the body line worked out on this side.. now I have to glaze/block the other side.. This is a LOT of work.. lol __________________ www.fi-r.net Nissan Performance

07-03-2006, 12:10 PM	#35
Broaner Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Madison, WI Age: 23 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0)	Are those Version Select fenders? You got those to fit very well. Are they the widebody or OEM width? Cars looking good. I plan on doing the both lines on mine in a couple years. __________________ VQ Powered S13 Coupe Homepage Video of the first VQ powered S13. Since people keep asking I guess I should say I do sidework. Regular stuff to motor swaps if you desire. PM me.

07-03-2006, 01:33 PM	#36
SR240DET Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Niceville, FL Age: 24 Posts: 1,466 Trader Rating: (0)	what are you guys going to do about the speedometer? How are you going to hook it up?

07-03-2006, 02:14 PM	#37
tiresmokes13 Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Socal Posts: 461 Trader Rating: (0)	looks nice..hope to see more pics soon Last edited by tiresmokes13; 07-03-2006 at 03:47 PM.

07-03-2006, 05:17 PM	#43
TurboB15sentra Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 29 Posts: 241 Trader Rating: (0)	Yup.. it's built into the system.. If the TPS voltage gets above 3.5 volts, the processor's cycle is interupted, and the A/C relay open circuits.. Once it falls back below 3.5 volts, the A/C cycle is started again. __________________ www.fi-r.net Nissan Performance

07-04-2006, 02:21 AM	#45
TurboB15sentra Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 29 Posts: 241 Trader Rating: (0)	that's cool.. I'll keep you updated.. __________________ www.fi-r.net Nissan Performance

07-04-2006, 02:18 PM	#46
Broaner Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Madison, WI Age: 23 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0)	SR240DET, I'm not sure if you were asking both of us. I run no speedo. All other guages are aftermarket. Water temp, oil temp, oil press, fuel press, tach, etc... Thats some slick stuff Travis. So you're really going to try to keep this a civil daily. Impressive. __________________ VQ Powered S13 Coupe Homepage Video of the first VQ powered S13. Since people keep asking I guess I should say I do sidework. Regular stuff to motor swaps if you desire. PM me.

07-05-2006, 12:03 AM	#47
TurboB15sentra Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 29 Posts: 241 Trader Rating: (0)	Yup.. fully functional with A/C and heat, stock guages, and heated/power 350z seats! __________________ www.fi-r.net Nissan Performance

07-05-2006, 03:01 PM	#48
SR240DET Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Niceville, FL Age: 24 Posts: 1,466 Trader Rating: (0)	if this was a track car then i would run no speedometer, but i need A/C here in florida and working guages since its a daily driver. I understand there is a guy out there that makes the spacer for the TO bearing but i cant get ahold of him anymore if you guys know where i can find this spacer, or specs to get one made at the machine shop that would be great.

07-05-2006, 04:40 PM	#49
TurboB15sentra Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 29 Posts: 241 Trader Rating: (0)	The only reason you would need that spacer, is if you were to run the VQ30 flywheel. The VQ35 flywheel sticks out further. The VQ30 flywheel must be used if the VQ30 ECU/harness is used. People who have done this swap, like to run the VQ stuff, because it doesn't entail using the immobilizer system and drive by wire. There is NO VQ35 ECU that doesn't use the immob and drive by wire.. There is a big ring on the outside of the flywheel, with a pickup sensor.. this is how the ECU knows where the engine is at in it's rotation, in relation to TDC. The teeth on the VQ30 and VQ35 rings are completely incompatible.. so, you can't use a VQ35 flywheel, with a VQ30 ECU, and vice-versa. However, I will be using the VQ35 ECU and harness.. and converting to drive by wire. I have plenty of knowledge about the control system, since I have been doing VQ swaps into the Sentra for the past year or so. So, I will retain the CVTC system, and I'll be able to use the 350z flywheel/clutch.. eliminating the need for a custom spacer. Travis __________________ www.fi-r.net Nissan Performance

07-05-2006, 08:01 PM	#50
Xren17 Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: San Diego / Cerritos Posts: 341 Trader Rating: (4)	Awesome work especially with thte speedo and AC controller.

07-06-2006, 12:31 PM	#51
Broaner Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Madison, WI Age: 23 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0)	That is all correct about the flywheel/sensor ring issues. The guy that made my spacer is on FA mostly. His SN is insndrv. The spacer pushes the Bearing 29mm away from the carrier and TO arm. The 29mm is the only important spec. All the the other specs can be gathered by ripping apart an OEM Z TO bearing. __________________ VQ Powered S13 Coupe Homepage Video of the first VQ powered S13. Since people keep asking I guess I should say I do sidework. Regular stuff to motor swaps if you desire. PM me.

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07-06-2006, 01:17 PM	#52
SR240DET Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Niceville, FL Age: 24 Posts: 1,466 Trader Rating: (0)	thanks broaner

08-24-2006, 10:12 PM	#53
SR240DET Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Niceville, FL Age: 24 Posts: 1,466 Trader Rating: (0)	just seeing if there are any updates yet,... also do you know if the VG30 transmission fits? it looks similar but idunno.

08-24-2006, 10:31 PM	#54
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08-24-2006, 11:46 PM	#55
TipStylez Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 855 Trader Rating: (0)	AWWWW, you went with the vented front fenders... That just look alot out of the smoothness of the body...i hate thos fenders. But anyways, how much hp are you expecting and are you gonna make this a track car or all show? __________________ http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...ts/XCELE39.png

08-25-2006, 12:23 PM	#56
onesickskyline Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: georgia Age: 28 Posts: 6 Trader Rating: (0)	damn that is sweet, dont see too many of them swaps

08-25-2006, 05:10 PM	#57
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03-24-2008, 11:59 PM	#58
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03-25-2008, 12:02 AM	#59
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