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csdcowboy · 05-19-2006, 01:09 AM

I got some D2s and finally got tires on them. I was told to go with the 45 aspect ratio. When they checked out the % difference at Costco, it was less than 3%, but when I did it on the 1010.com calculator, it was 3.05%. It says anything over 3% runs the risk of brake failure!

Makes me nervous and annoyed (should've gotten 40s apparently....gah!)

Is this going to realistically going to be an issue?

kouki_s14 · 05-19-2006, 01:19 AM

45s on a 17 sounds right to me

m072514 · 05-19-2006, 01:29 AM

you wont experience much, if any change in their behavior. just like for speedometer changes... the difference is minimal, but it does exist.

csdcowboy · 05-19-2006, 01:33 AM

It says when I'm going 60mph it'll read as 58.1mph. I can deal with that. I'm more concerned about my brakes exploding and causing a supernova or something similar.

kouki_s14 · 05-19-2006, 02:25 AM

um where did you read that your brakes will explode, i've never heard of this. come to think of it, i dont think i've heard of brakes exploding period......for any reason.....whatsoever

*Dousan_PG* · 05-19-2006, 02:33 AM

brakes exploding due to tire size hahahaha
thats too funny

kouki_s14 · 05-19-2006, 02:39 AM

man the internet has everything

Dr.Baby · 05-19-2006, 03:13 AM

your brakes will DEFINETLY overheat and your car will catch on fire...its happened to me before! a few times!!!!

Ugly_s14 · 05-19-2006, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csdcowboy

It says anything over 3% runs the risk of brake failure!

No way man. I've had a hundred different wheel size/aspect combos on a hundred different cars, and I've never experienced any brake failure due to the size of the wheel. That's ridiculous. Whoever told you that is reading warning labels from the book of BS.

Just my two cents. Those wheels are hot, btw. props =)

zads · 05-19-2006, 06:37 AM

The "brake failure" is most likely referring to ABS malfunctioning due to mismatched wheel speed and speedometer readings. Only happens with certain ABS control systems, though.

*Sil-Abc* · 05-19-2006, 09:21 AM

hmm if thats the case my brakes should have failed.....10930492835 times

guess im pretty lucky

OBEEWON · 05-19-2006, 10:04 AM

What about all those pimped out rides with 26 and 32 inch wheels? Never heard anything bad about those except tranny failure and wheels breaking off and flying into oncoming traffic.

cgguy · 05-19-2006, 10:50 AM

Hahaha, good stuff.

I've plus sized rim and tire combinations for years. I've never had any brake problems, abs malfunctions or anything like what you are describing. The thought of brakes overheating and exploding is totally rediculous.

wootwoot · 05-19-2006, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zads

The "brake failure" is most likely referring to ABS malfunctioning due to mismatched wheel speed and speedometer readings. Only happens with certain ABS control systems, though.

ding ding ding ding

mjjstang · 05-19-2006, 03:27 PM

think about it too, if they say 3 percent is fine, and your talking 3.05, its not a clear cut anything over exactly 3.0000000000000000000 will explode, there is grey area in which the 3.05 would be in anyway, if something has a rating, then theres always room here and there

drew935 · 05-19-2006, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

What about all those pimped out rides with 26 and 32 inch wheels? Never heard anything bad about those except tranny failure and wheels breaking off and flying into oncoming traffic.

They experience serious brake fade without any brake upgrades and rear end you in the arse

Ugly_s14 · 05-19-2006, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjjstang

think about it too, if they say 3 percent is fine, and your talking 3.05, its not a clear cut anything over exactly 3.0000000000000000000 will explode, there is grey area in which the 3.05 would be in anyway, if something has a rating, then theres always room here and there

Dude. Your brakes are going to be fine. They are not going to fucking explode or melt or supernova or any of that shit. Relax. If you are this worried about it, then KEEP YOUR STOCK WHEELS. I don't know why you are so freakishly concerned about this.

mjjstang · 05-19-2006, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly_s14

Dude. Your brakes are going to be fine. They are not going to fucking explode or melt or supernova or any of that shit. Relax. If you are this worried about it, then KEEP YOUR STOCK WHEELS. I don't know why you are so freakishly concerned about this.

dude are you new to the internet?

btw i just called discount tire and told em im running 17x8 +35 in front on s13 and said that my 225/45/17 are too big and i should go to a 16x6 and get a 215 oh and i need a spacer, if i wanna go anything larger than stock.

blackflag_Rms13 · 05-19-2006, 05:58 PM

Hahaha Costco FTL!

Oh and Ugly-s14, learn to read...

csdcowboy · 05-19-2006, 07:18 PM

at all you guys thinking I was serious about my brakes exploding/causing a supernova

hahahahha

Anyways, I just meant that it might wear out the brakes due to larger/heavier setup.

Thank you ZADS for the info about the ABS, I think that covers it all.

You guys crack me up

OBEEWON · 05-19-2006, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drew935

They experience serious brake fade without any brake upgrades and rear end you in the arse

True. Thats how I paid for my stillen body kit and custom paint on my maxima. Im still waiting for someone to rearend my S14 . . . Papa needs new paint.

mellojoe · 05-19-2006, 10:33 PM

I've seen brakes explode. But that was at Leguna Seca when one of the Speed GT Corvette's blew a front rotor to pieces. It was crazy.

But, you won't kill your brakes over wheel size.

The larger rotational mass will put extra strain on the brakes to slow the vehicle, so you might go through brakes 3% quicker. But, then again, your engine will also be working harder to turn those bigger wheels so you'll be going 3% slower.

Honestly, unless you are SERIOUSLY plus sizing (like putting 22" on an s13 with stock brakes), then you probably will not even notice a difference.

Ugly_s14 · 05-19-2006, 10:48 PM

Hmm. Wow, look at the flaming because you don't understand. My last post was meant to go ALONG w/ Mjjstang's comment about tolerances. It was not directed at Mjjstang, it was directed at Csdcowboy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackflag_Rms13

Hahaha Costco FTL!

Oh and Ugly-s14, learn to read...

And to Blackflag... no, you learn to read.

05-19-2006, 01:09 AM	#1
csdcowboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Corvallis, OR Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (0)	Just installed 225/45/17s...gonna be a problem? I got some D2s and finally got tires on them. I was told to go with the 45 aspect ratio. When they checked out the % difference at Costco, it was less than 3%, but when I did it on the 1010.com calculator, it was 3.05%. It says anything over 3% runs the risk of brake failure! Makes me nervous and annoyed (should've gotten 40s apparently....gah!) Is this going to realistically going to be an issue?

05-19-2006, 01:19 AM	#2
kouki_s14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,560 Trader Rating: (0)	45s on a 17 sounds right to me __________________ I'm amazed at how many people are idiots.

05-19-2006, 01:29 AM	#3
m072514 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0)	you wont experience much, if any change in their behavior. just like for speedometer changes... the difference is minimal, but it does exist. __________________ http://photos-176.facebook.com/ip007...30176_3951.jpg

05-19-2006, 02:25 AM	#5
kouki_s14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,560 Trader Rating: (0)	um where did you read that your brakes will explode, i've never heard of this. come to think of it, i dont think i've heard of brakes exploding period......for any reason.....whatsoever __________________ I'm amazed at how many people are idiots.

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05-19-2006, 01:33 AM	#4
csdcowboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Corvallis, OR Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (0)	It says when I'm going 60mph it'll read as 58.1mph. I can deal with that. I'm more concerned about my brakes exploding and causing a supernova or something similar.

05-19-2006, 02:39 AM	#7
kouki_s14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,560 Trader Rating: (0)	man the internet has everything __________________ I'm amazed at how many people are idiots.

05-19-2006, 03:13 AM	#8
Dr.Baby Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Anahiem, CA Age: 23 Posts: 445 Trader Rating: (9)	your brakes will DEFINETLY overheat and your car will catch on fire...its happened to me before! a few times!!!!

05-19-2006, 06:37 AM	#10
zads Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: san diego, ca Age: 26 Posts: 299 Trader Rating: (0)	The "brake failure" is most likely referring to ABS malfunctioning due to mismatched wheel speed and speedometer readings. Only happens with certain ABS control systems, though.

05-19-2006, 09:21 AM	#11
Sil-Abc You're A Towel!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bayarea Age: 23 Posts: 2,549 Trader Rating: (13) Rides Gallery: Sil-Abc	hmm if thats the case my brakes should have failed.....10930492835 times guess im pretty lucky __________________ IM JON WAYNE ESQ.... bitch

05-19-2006, 10:04 AM	#12
OBEEWON Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PHILLY Posts: 1,263 Trader Rating: (0)	What about all those pimped out rides with 26 and 32 inch wheels? Never heard anything bad about those except tranny failure and wheels breaking off and flying into oncoming traffic. __________________ S.O.L.O.

05-19-2006, 10:50 AM	#13
cgguy Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 129 Trader Rating: (0)	Hahaha, good stuff. I've plus sized rim and tire combinations for years. I've never had any brake problems, abs malfunctions or anything like what you are describing. The thought of brakes overheating and exploding is totally rediculous.

05-19-2006, 03:27 PM	#15
mjjstang Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,607 Trader Rating: (4)	think about it too, if they say 3 percent is fine, and your talking 3.05, its not a clear cut anything over exactly 3.0000000000000000000 will explode, there is grey area in which the 3.05 would be in anyway, if something has a rating, then theres always room here and there __________________ I was going to, but I can not think of a sig less than 75 characters.

05-19-2006, 05:58 PM	#19
blackflag_Rms13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,135 Trader Rating: (0)	Hahaha Costco FTL! Oh and Ugly-s14, learn to read...

05-19-2006, 07:18 PM	#20
csdcowboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Corvallis, OR Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (0)	at all you guys thinking I was serious about my brakes exploding/causing a supernova hahahahha Anyways, I just meant that it might wear out the brakes due to larger/heavier setup. Thank you ZADS for the info about the ABS, I think that covers it all. You guys crack me up

05-19-2006, 10:33 PM	#22
mellojoe Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ARKANSAS Posts: 518 Trader Rating: (0)	I've seen brakes explode. But that was at Leguna Seca when one of the Speed GT Corvette's blew a front rotor to pieces. It was crazy. But, you won't kill your brakes over wheel size. The larger rotational mass will put extra strain on the brakes to slow the vehicle, so you might go through brakes 3% quicker. But, then again, your engine will also be working harder to turn those bigger wheels so you'll be going 3% slower. Honestly, unless you are SERIOUSLY plus sizing (like putting 22" on an s13 with stock brakes), then you probably will not even notice a difference. __________________ http://jpdimaggio.com/other/avatars/240sx_banner2.gif

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