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Old 07-25-2009, 10:53 PM   #1
 
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Avoid Fullerton with modified cars

So I was trying to find a parking spot in downtown Fullerton last night, whilst driving my 240Z. Just so everyone knows, it looks like a race car. No bumpers, full exhaust, sits low, glass hood, gutted interior, etc. Well, one of Fullerton's finest pulls me and tell me he pulled me over because I have a modified exhaust and I'm not supposed to drive a race car on the street. Dumb, I know. Ultimately, he comes to the conclusion that my license is expired (to be honest though, I didn't really have the correct paperwork proving otherwise), and calls a tow truck. I had a licensed driver with me, but the po-lice man won't let him drive it out of there because the department wants their $120. Another police car shows up. Officer Borden (I believe) pops my hood, without permission, and starts pulling on wires to see where they go I guess. I ask what he's doing, he cusses me out, the conversation turns into an argument, and I get threatened to be peppersprayed. Car goes on tow truck (flat bed thank god). Today, get the release from the station, go to tow yard. "we can't release your vehicle today Mr. Britain." So I says "Why the hell not?" They reply "We can't release non-running vehicles when there isn't a lot foreman here." Fucking what?!?!?!?!? THe son of a bitch ran when it went on the tow truck! "Ah well the driver said about halfway here he heard what sounded like an explosion and observed smoke billowing from under the hood. He disconnected your battery and it stopped. He believes the solenoid exploded which caused an electrical fire." I have been driving it for 2 years and it has never exploded or caught on fire before. Bottom line, they're keeping it until the foreman gets back on Monday. Suprise, suprise, they're chargin me for those two extra days. Not only that, they say it's my fault that they're tow truck guy / the cops blew up my car because I "made it so difficult to operate." NO SHIT! That's how anti-theft works you damn homo!
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The economy is so shitty right now. People are just doing whatever they can to make sure they survive. Goes to show how we are no different from any other animal on Earth.

To the police-man that threaten to mace you, he can go fuck himself and die!!!
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cops are anal almost all around cali but you just happened to be at the very wrong place at the very wrong time with a very wrong car to be on the street with. good luck monday
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You should try pressing charges and or file a formal complaint.
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yep.. filed complaints are a headache for departments.. DO IT
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lol modded cars avoid CALI if possible po-pos out here more concerned with giving fix-it tickets thats all there good for anyways!! dont call them police just call them the citation squad hahaha econ so bad ref is more like your local safety check-point!!!
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Old 07-26-2009, 01:24 AM   #8
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I'd talk to a lawyer to see if you can get some form of compensation and file a complaint. I found first hand that some policemen will push step out of bounds sometimes. In my situation instead of losing my cool after I was harassed I went to the station with evidence and a month later the former officer was looking for another job. Far from the norm but it helps for them to get a reality check.
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Someone is deffinately paying for my car, whether it be the tow truck operator for failing to operate the car properly, or the police officer / department for not allowing me to properly show the tow truck driver how to operate my car. Every time I stepped off the curb to show the guy which switches he needed to flip and reset after he was done, I was cussed at by Officer Borden.
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Uf he asked you to stay on the curb that understandable but if you had it on you cell camera he probably would have changed his tone.
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meh......... driving a around without bumpers was stupid, much less around downtown Fullerton in a modded out 240 where the police is always on lookout for drunks and retards to grab. I don't know but the police in Fullerton are ok with me. When i get pulled over for car stuff, and trust me if they wanted to they could screw me over, I'm polite and only answer when asked something.

This sounds to me to be a thread looking for sympathy for being one of those retards grabbed lol. Gotta pay to play and grow a brain to figure out driving a attention getter in a high cop populated area is stupid!
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Get a badge number, and file a complaint. Best of luck in your ordeal. Granted, you were asking to get busted, but you and your car should not have been treated that way.
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Old 07-26-2009, 08:14 PM   #13
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1st. its a 240z so im pretty sure that means its smog exempt, so the hood popping was not only illegal because it was not consented to, even if he had midgets in there pedaling it wouldnt matter. This is bullshit, cops need to realize their job is to PROTECT AND SERVE not TICKET AND HARASS. good luck man. and remember CHP = Can't Handle Policework.
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well being that its a 240z im guessing its pre 76 right? so whatever u have done to your car shouldnt matter anywyas cuz its pre smog requirement? anyways.. another thing, dont cops have to be ase certified before they can open your hood? and as far as modified exhaust goes, i would take that shit to court too... up here in bakersfield there are bikes and trucks and v8 cars everywhere with rediculously loud exhausts but they only pull over imports... its stereo typing and its bullshit.. take him and the tow place to court... honestly it seems like the cop followed the tow truck made him pull over and fucked ur motor up... thats shitty
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Just because it's smog exempt, doesn't mean it's BAR exempt.
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take it to court sue the county, im going through the same thing right now. cop is out of line, im sure they got something under the table going on with the tow yard.
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get a lawyer, sue the FUCK out of them. thats bullshit.
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simple solution, hire a lawyer, tow companies have insurance and can be considered responsible for anything that happens to your vehicle regardless of what the situation is when they have possession of your vehicle. further more i would suggest filing a cival suit agains the city of fullerton for the police officer's behavior.

hood popping is legal, because upon getting your drivers license you waived that right when you signed to comply with the rules of the DMV. It is listed in the handbook that an officer can check any vehicle for smog modifications. save your self the time. Hire an attourney.
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holy shit thats fuckin sucky!

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Just because it's smog exempt, doesn't mean it's BAR exempt.


you are correct. just because smog modifications are not regulated on older cars doesn't mean they are not inforceable.

i had a 69 bug with dual carbs, and got ticketed and sent to the ref for it. i tried to fight it and ended up learning a little lesson, so i know what i'm talking about.

as far as going after the cop or the department for money, good luck. you'll need it. it might cost more to fight for it than it would to just fix the car.
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Man thats some horseshit power hungry ass cops. I got the same type of thing on a SCOOTER. A god damn scooter and they hassled me for it. Its not even worth suing or anything because you wont win. Did you actually have a license though? Was it expired? If you dont have it on you they can look it up on the computer even though the cop refused to do that for me. Lesson learned.
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Downtown Fullerton, eh? Was one of the cops a young white guy with dark blonde hair and glasses? If so, that guy is a giant weiner, and I'm not shocked at all that he gave you such shit.

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Pre-'76 imports raaaaarely get hassled, but it does happen.

Regardless of what year the car was made, you're still supposed to have all the OE smog stuff in place and whatnot. If you drive a '73 (insert car here) and it came with a cat, EGR, and a smog pump, you're supposed to keep all that shit in place.
If you drive a '63 (insert car here) and it came with none of that, you're good to go, as long as you keep the noise levels reasonable.
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Pre-1975 cars, while smog check exempt, are supposed to still have all their factory smog equipment kept in place i.e. air pumps, PCV valves, EGR's and whatnot. Luckily, I was not ticketed for that. My complaint is that the police popped the hood after the ticket had been writen and the tow truck had already arrived. Then they started fucking with wires to see where they went. All that was totall unneccassary.


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meh......... driving a around without bumpers was stupid, much less around downtown Fullerton in a modded out 240 where the police is always on lookout for drunks and retards to grab. I don't know but the police in Fullerton are ok with me. When i get pulled over for car stuff, and trust me if they wanted to they could screw me over, I'm polite and only answer when asked something.

This sounds to me to be a thread looking for sympathy for being one of those retards grabbed lol. Gotta pay to play and grow a brain to figure out driving a attention getter in a high cop populated area is stupid!
Eat it, ass. I didn't give the cops shit, and they didn't start fucking with me until Officer Birden showed up. But because I modified my car mainly within the law (hence no fix-it tickets written), but because it is modified, I shouldn't drive it? The vehicle I put so much time and effort in? I should just be afraid of the cops? No thanks. This is only the second time in my 9 years of driving I've been hassled badly by the police. Usually it's just down to business and they do what they gotta do. If you don't like the thread, don't post on it. Think I'm a retard that's looking for sympathy, come to a meet sometime and tell me all about it. I promise I'll be all ears.

To the rest of ya, thanks for the well wishes. I pick the car up this morning and will take some pics of the damage the tow truck driver did to my car.
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I just got pulled over for a modified exhaust about 10 minutes ago...i kept it coo and told him it was under db sound levels(hell no it aint, loud as shit)..checked my record or watever they do..thanked for cooperating and left..
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I just got pulled over for a modified exhaust about 10 minutes ago...i kept it coo and told him it was under db sound levels(hell no it aint, loud as shit)..checked my record or watever they do..thanked for cooperating and left..
jorge why are you out this late with that cop bait? lol
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tHAT sucks. good luck monday and put your bumpers on so dont get fuckd by the long dick of the law agian.
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I just got pulled over for a modified exhaust about 10 minutes ago...i kept it coo and told him it was under db sound levels(hell no it aint, loud as shit)..checked my record or watever they do..thanked for cooperating and left..
wtf... again?! lol
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I'd put a formal complaint in and talk to a lawyer. Officers are not trained technitians, which is why most officers will have you open your hood, to refrain from being liable.

Also, it is legal to drive a race car on the street. Spec miatas and a lot of vehicles who run stock spec classes cannot modify anything other than suspension and in some cases very minimal suspension adjustments. Thus, it is a false statement and can be credible to the officers statement.

Kinda like the time my friend got his case thrown out because the cop kept saying wastegate instead of blow off valve.
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