Need A Hook Up On Body Work

*LeftNutOfGowd* · 08-19-2008, 05:11 PM

So I'm saving up money to do a motor swap from a ka to a sr and so i decide to take some of that money and fix up my body damage on my car. I went to a local body shop and got quoted $400 for the hit and $200 to alien the trunk back up so this is what the damage looks like.

I'll take some more pics of the outside and inside and trunk when i get home. I would really like someone local maybe in the 714 area aka Santa Ana/Orange County.

Also note these pics were taken when i first got the car. I had a friend work on the body so the damage doesn't look as bad will post the more recent pics in a few hours.

**UPDATE**

Here's the damage as of now

NOTICE HOW THE TRUNK DOESN'T SEAT RIGHT

INSIDE

s13boy89 · 08-19-2008, 07:09 PM

yeah i was about to say it wasn't that bad after i got done with it

silpena · 08-20-2008, 01:41 AM

holy shit 400 aint to bad or price to get a hit that hard. If i live in socal i would help you out. Was that qoute paint,labor and everything? whats their rate? I doubt it would take along time to align the trunk if theirs no structral damage. gl with getting it fixed.

downshift_sideways · 08-20-2008, 03:04 AM

400 is a fucking steal.

I doubt you'd get any better.

*I10cruiser* · 08-20-2008, 05:32 AM

^for real its a suck ass place to get hit. . my car got salvage because of theexact same damage. . and the work the guy did is at best a 5 footer . .gl

downshift_sideways · 08-20-2008, 05:44 AM

Yea..as I mentioned..thats still not a bad price.

They have to heat it up and put it on the rack to pull the trunk back to it's original position.

I got a qoute on my s13 and s14 years back.

13 was gonna cost me $1400
14 was gonna cost me $1650ish.

(this is at a GOOD WORK body shop)for work on rear bumper, and QP work.

Does your qoute include prep and paint?

*DreamN* · 08-20-2008, 05:56 AM

seriously $600 for everything isn't bad at all considering the work involved. get other quotes just to compare. you could always give it a try yourself by renting out a stud gun and a sliding hammer.

quick how to: Fixing An Auto Body Dent With A Stud Welder and Slide Hammer

*I10cruiser* · 08-20-2008, 06:15 AM

so tahts what its called . a slide hammer

*LeftNutOfGowd* · 08-20-2008, 06:50 AM

Yeah $600 isn't bad but that price was to get the hit popped out and bondo without any paint. I really don't want a lot of bondo on my car. I mean there isn't and frame damage just the body but i have go to different shops and they quoted me around the same price.

Quote:

Originally Posted by I10cruiser

^for real its a suck ass place to get hit. . my car got salvage because of theexact same damage. . and the work the guy did is at best a 5 footer . .gl

I know man its a gay ass place to get hit but hey for $1000 bucks i got a RUNNING CAR, CLEAN TITLE, AND THE KA RUNS STRONG AS HELL I'm not going to complain about some little hit

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamN

seriously $600 for everything isn't bad at all considering the work involved. get other quotes just to compare. you could always give it a try yourself by renting out a stud gun and a sliding hammer.

quick how to: Fixing An Auto Body Dent With A Stud Welder and Slide Hammer

Na we tryed the hammer didn't help much at all. We need a frame pulller

silpena · 08-20-2008, 11:56 AM

aww man i have acess to a frame rack and badass chief system frame puller. Thing cost like 30k. I could set up ur car on the rack and do all the pulling and measurements for u. You can use an easy out or something to get most of it but you have to make sure how to relieve the metal and where to hit the trunk so it alignswell. yeah, you need to find a good shop that doesnt use a whole of body filler. trust me, i once worked on a scout that needed to be pulled and have the door frame aligned and as soon it started to come back to shape the qp fell apart. It was full body filler. Chunks flew off. It was funny though. Now theres cracks all over the place but the owner just wanted to pull the frame so the door would shut.

is there any buckling in the quarter panel or creases around the window frame?? You probley dont need a frame rack to pull it. Just a slide hammer, some clamps attachments, a chaine, a hammer to relieve the metal in areas as you pull. That should be it. A stud welder is useless for this since its so big that u would need a big ass strong pin to pull it out. A small tow dolly or heel dolly would help around the concave areas near your tail lights and such.

*Vision Garage* · 08-20-2008, 01:03 PM

Damn homie, thats alot of body work. Quarter panel damage is probably the hardest to fix since the metal is stronger where the tail lights meet it. If i were you, pull it out, primer it to prevent rust and overfenders!

*LeftNutOfGowd* · 08-20-2008, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silpena

aww man i have acess to a frame rack and badass chief system frame puller. Thing cost like 30k. I could set up ur car on the rack and do all the pulling and measurements for u. You can use an easy out or something to get most of it but you have to make sure how to relieve the metal and where to hit the trunk so it alignswell. yeah, you need to find a good shop that doesnt use a whole of body filler. trust me, i once worked on a scout that needed to be pulled and have the door frame aligned and as soon it started to come back to shape the qp fell apart. It was full body filler. Chunks flew off. It was funny though. Now theres cracks all over the place but the owner just wanted to pull the frame so the door would shut.

is there any buckling in the quarter panel or creases around the window frame?? You probley dont need a frame rack to pull it. Just a slide hammer, some clamps attachments, a chaine, a hammer to relieve the metal in areas as you pull. That should be it. A stud welder is useless for this since its so big that u would need a big ass strong pin to pull it out. A small tow dolly or heel dolly would help around the concave areas near your tail lights and such.

Ill post better pics in like 2 hours so you can tell me what you think i really don't know shit about body work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vision Garage

Damn homie, thats alot of body work. Quarter panel damage is probably the hardest to fix since the metal is stronger where the tail lights meet it. If i were you, pull it out, primer it to prevent rust and overfenders!

Yeah that's what I'm planning on doing. The guy who sold it to me told me to not even worry to just go wide body but i don't think the wide body would fit right with that hit.

*ericcastro* · 08-20-2008, 02:45 PM

Wide body

bang it out yourself.

get a bumper, a new tail light, and wide body that shit with the $600.

silpena · 08-20-2008, 03:56 PM

no on widebody.... fix it then widebody. depending on the damage it wont fit right or the new panels are going to fall off or crack(if fiber glass) later on. You might as well cut the qp pane completly off if ur going to do that....

*ericcastro* · 08-20-2008, 05:07 PM

Do you drift??

Do you run tandem??

If you answered yes, then you might as well not do shit, cause thats just gonna get hit again

otherwise $400 is really good.

*LeftNutOfGowd* · 08-20-2008, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericcastro

Do you drift??

Do you run tandem??

If you answered yes, then you might as well not do shit, cause thats just gonna get hit again

otherwise $400 is really good.

nope none of that this is my dd. I wanna build a track car later on but i wanna do it with a hatch

*ericcastro* · 08-20-2008, 05:30 PM

Aha.

then I would take that bumper off and have a look with it off. Make sure the bumper support didnt get pushed around. And that trunk is wierd, hard to tell from pics what happend. whats the gap on the other side look like?? did the trunk get rotated clockwise?? Is the hinge whats bent so funky??

Theres a real ghetto shop in El Monte me and alot of the 626 guys used. Just incase your spot changes thier mind

BTW, Im lookin for a daily too. I noticed that people are charging the same amount for S13 coupes as stock S14's. That shit makes no sense. So Imma probably save for a S14, drop it on rims and daily it. Screw 3K for a S13 lol!!!

*LeftNutOfGowd* · 08-20-2008, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericcastro

Aha.

then I would take that bumper off and have a look with it off. Make sure the bumper support didnt get pushed around. And that trunk is wierd, hard to tell from pics what happend. whats the gap on the other side look like?? did the trunk get rotated clockwise?? Is the hinge whats bent so funky??

Theres a real ghetto shop in El Monte me and alot of the 626 guys used. Just incase your spot changes thier mind

BTW, Im lookin for a daily too. I noticed that people are charging the same amount for S13 coupes as stock S14's. That shit makes no sense. So Imma probably save for a S14, drop it on rims and daily it. Screw 3K for a S13 lol!!!

The other side looks perfect like it should be i think its the hinges got warped or something. Yeah when i took it to the shop the guy said the bumper is garbage now the supports are warped too. I'm gonna take it to him again and see what he says now

Alright man El Monte isn't a far drive for me i got family out there so ill keep your suggestion in mind. I just don't wanna take it somewhere were there going to just pack on the bondo

I know i was thinking that too getting a s14 for the track but i much rather get a hatch i like the look of them. Or maybe ill get lucky and find another coupe for 1k like this one lol

silpena · 08-20-2008, 06:06 PM

ooo man. I can tell where u got hit and how. You got clipped huh? the reason the trunk isnt aligned anymore is becuase a: the damage spreaded upward cuasing a bulge at the corner or b: the bumper support moved something structrual to the unibody shifting the trunk upwards. My other guess it looks the who hit you.. hit u at an odd angle they must have been driving something that was lower than ur car. i would take the trunk off also and the rear support bar. get a new one and try it on and make references by measuring how far the mounting bolts are.
measure the distance between ur trunk mounting spots on the good side up and down and compare it to the damaged side like this ll. then after that measure it from the driver side to passenger side on the mounting bolts like this =. If You wanna take even more measure ments then do it cross ways like this X. this should help you determin how far you are off and should make aligned way simpler. You can do een more damage by beating the metal past it strecthcable limitby beating it out. You kinda made it harder to fix since u put alot of ripple dents and bulges all over the place. I'm 100% sure they are going to qoute a hella lot more next time you go to get another estimate. You just created alot more work for them to do. beofore it was just some simple pulling with a slide hammer/chain/frame clamps and a hammer to relieve the metal as you pull. Now you got alot of bump work, pulling and maybe some metal shrinking to get it back to place. Damn if i live close to id help you out for free.

*I10cruiser* · 08-20-2008, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericcastro

Aha.

then I would take that bumper off and have a look with it off. Make sure the bumper support didnt get pushed around. And that trunk is wierd, hard to tell from pics what happend. whats the gap on the other side look like?? did the trunk get rotated clockwise?? Is the hinge whats bent so funky??

Theres a real ghetto shop in El Monte me and alot of the 626 guys used. Just incase your spot changes thier mind

BTW, Im lookin for a daily too. I noticed that people are charging the same amount for S13 coupes as stock S14's. That shit makes no sense. So Imma probably save for a S14, drop it on rims and daily it. Screw 3K for a S13 lol!!!

buy my running coupe! 1100! s13 ftw

*ALEXTHESUS*PECT* · 08-20-2008, 08:15 PM

pay the $400 and continue driving it!

*LeftNutOfGowd* · 08-21-2008, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silpena

ooo man. I can tell where u got hit and how. You got clipped huh? the reason the trunk isnt aligned anymore is becuase a: the damage spreaded upward cuasing a bulge at the corner or b: the bumper support moved something structrual to the unibody shifting the trunk upwards. My other guess it looks the who hit you.. hit u at an odd angle they must have been driving something that was lower than ur car. i would take the trunk off also and the rear support bar. get a new one and try it on and make references by measuring how far the mounting bolts are.
measure the distance between ur trunk mounting spots on the good side up and down and compare it to the damaged side like this ll. then after that measure it from the driver side to passenger side on the mounting bolts like this =. If You wanna take even more measure ments then do it cross ways like this X. this should help you determin how far you are off and should make aligned way simpler. You can do een more damage by beating the metal past it strecthcable limitby beating it out. You kinda made it harder to fix since u put alot of ripple dents and bulges all over the place. I'm 100% sure they are going to qoute a hella lot more next time you go to get another estimate. You just created alot more work for them to do. beofore it was just some simple pulling with a slide hammer/chain/frame clamps and a hammer to relieve the metal as you pull. Now you got alot of bump work, pulling and maybe some metal shrinking to get it back to place. Damn if i live close to id help you out for free.

Damn man i was about to say ill drive to where ever you live so you can help me out. But then i googled map it and saw your like 8 hours away I'm like FUCK THAT hahaha. But thanks I'm gonna go get the estimate maybe tomorrow see what he says

Quote:

Originally Posted by I10cruiser

buy my running coupe! 1100! s13 ftw

Get that shit eric

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALEXTHESUS*PECT

pay the $400 and continue driving it!

I know but doesn't having a lot of bondo weaken your car i want a shop where they wont take the whole bucket of bondo and slap it on my car

*DreamN* · 08-21-2008, 08:48 AM

Twins Auto Body in Van Nuys will fix your shit up with as little bondo as possible. Mehdi does great body work.

15048 Oxnard St
Van Nuys, CA 91411
(818) 908-1629

*LeftNutOfGowd* · 08-21-2008, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamN

Twins Auto Body in Van Nuys will fix your shit up with as little bondo as possible. Mehdi does great body work.

15048 Oxnard St
Van Nuys, CA 91411
(818) 908-1629

thanks I might have to drive up there and see what they quote me if this guy bumps up the price

08-19-2008, 05:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
LeftNutOfGowd This is wat 10 bucks gets you Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: O.C Age: 21 Posts: 1,460 Trader Rating: (0)	Need A Hook Up On Some Body WorkUPDATED WITH RECENT PICS So I'm saving up money to do a motor swap from a ka to a sr and so i decide to take some of that money and fix up my body damage on my car. I went to a local body shop and got quoted $400 for the hit and $200 to alien the trunk back up so this is what the damage looks like. I'll take some more pics of the outside and inside and trunk when i get home. I would really like someone local maybe in the 714 area aka Santa Ana/Orange County. Also note these pics were taken when i first got the car. I had a friend work on the body so the damage doesn't look as bad will post the more recent pics in a few hours. UPDATE Here's the damage as of now NOTICE HOW THE TRUNK DOESN'T SEAT RIGHT INSIDE __________________ Signature filesize is WAY too big. Keep disobeying the rules with your signature, and I'll take away the privilege. -Kevin Last edited by LeftNutOfGowd; 08-20-2008 at 04:46 PM.

08-20-2008, 05:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
I10cruiser Dirty chukI! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: los angeles Age: 19 Posts: 2,066 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: I10cruiser	^for real its a suck ass place to get hit. . my car got salvage because of theexact same damage. . and the work the guy did is at best a 5 footer . .gl __________________ carloss is here to stay! 89coupe sold welcome! 93 coupe. . oh so sweet! bought /sold stuff to me? post in my review thread! http://zilvia.net/f/private-sellers/...10cruiser.html

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DreamN My car gets her wet ;) Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal (818) Mon★ Rep Power: ∞ Age: 23 Posts: 5,020 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: DreamN	seriously $600 for everything isn't bad at all considering the work involved. get other quotes just to compare. you could always give it a try yourself by renting out a stud gun and a sliding hammer. quick how to: Fixing An Auto Body Dent With A Stud Welder and Slide Hammer __________________ For Sale: S13 Coupe Part & Misc. S-Chassis Parts DreamN's Trader Rating

08-20-2008, 06:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
I10cruiser Dirty chukI! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: los angeles Age: 19 Posts: 2,066 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: I10cruiser	so tahts what its called . a slide hammer __________________ carloss is here to stay! 89coupe sold welcome! 93 coupe. . oh so sweet! bought /sold stuff to me? post in my review thread! http://zilvia.net/f/private-sellers/...10cruiser.html

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Vision Garage Love, Peace and Tire Screetch! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USDM Land Posts: 1,216 Trader Rating: (1)	Damn homie, thats alot of body work. Quarter panel damage is probably the hardest to fix since the metal is stronger where the tail lights meet it. If i were you, pull it out, primer it to prevent rust and overfenders! __________________

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08-19-2008, 07:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
s13boy89 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: anaheim Age: 19 Posts: 590 Trader Rating: (4)	yeah i was about to say it wasn't that bad after i got done with it

08-20-2008, 01:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
silpena Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LIVE OAK,CA Age: 21 Posts: 382 Trader Rating: (1)	holy shit 400 aint to bad or price to get a hit that hard. If i live in socal i would help you out. Was that qoute paint,labor and everything? whats their rate? I doubt it would take along time to align the trunk if theirs no structral damage. gl with getting it fixed.

08-20-2008, 03:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
downshift_sideways BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Leandro,CA. . . . . [The REAL Bay Area] Age: 22 Posts: 5,411 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: downshift_sideways	400 is a fucking steal. I doubt you'd get any better.

08-20-2008, 05:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
downshift_sideways BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Leandro,CA. . . . . [The REAL Bay Area] Age: 22 Posts: 5,411 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: downshift_sideways	Yea..as I mentioned..thats still not a bad price. They have to heat it up and put it on the rack to pull the trunk back to it's original position. I got a qoute on my s13 and s14 years back. 13 was gonna cost me $1400 14 was gonna cost me $1650ish. (this is at a GOOD WORK body shop)for work on rear bumper, and QP work. Does your qoute include prep and paint?

08-20-2008, 11:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
silpena Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LIVE OAK,CA Age: 21 Posts: 382 Trader Rating: (1)	aww man i have acess to a frame rack and badass chief system frame puller. Thing cost like 30k. I could set up ur car on the rack and do all the pulling and measurements for u. You can use an easy out or something to get most of it but you have to make sure how to relieve the metal and where to hit the trunk so it alignswell. yeah, you need to find a good shop that doesnt use a whole of body filler. trust me, i once worked on a scout that needed to be pulled and have the door frame aligned and as soon it started to come back to shape the qp fell apart. It was full body filler. Chunks flew off. It was funny though. Now theres cracks all over the place but the owner just wanted to pull the frame so the door would shut. is there any buckling in the quarter panel or creases around the window frame?? You probley dont need a frame rack to pull it. Just a slide hammer, some clamps attachments, a chaine, a hammer to relieve the metal in areas as you pull. That should be it. A stud welder is useless for this since its so big that u would need a big ass strong pin to pull it out. A small tow dolly or heel dolly would help around the concave areas near your tail lights and such.

08-20-2008, 02:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
ericcastro 626DRIFT Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Are you suggesting coconuts migrate? Age: 32 Posts: 1,989 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: ericcastro	Wide body bang it out yourself. get a bumper, a new tail light, and wide body that shit with the $600. __________________ Looking for ziptied vouch.

08-20-2008, 03:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
silpena Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LIVE OAK,CA Age: 21 Posts: 382 Trader Rating: (1)	no on widebody.... fix it then widebody. depending on the damage it wont fit right or the new panels are going to fall off or crack(if fiber glass) later on. You might as well cut the qp pane completly off if ur going to do that....

08-20-2008, 05:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
ericcastro 626DRIFT Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Are you suggesting coconuts migrate? Age: 32 Posts: 1,989 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: ericcastro	Do you drift?? Do you run tandem?? If you answered yes, then you might as well not do shit, cause thats just gonna get hit again otherwise $400 is really good. __________________ Looking for ziptied vouch.

08-20-2008, 05:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
ericcastro 626DRIFT Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Are you suggesting coconuts migrate? Age: 32 Posts: 1,989 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: ericcastro	Aha. then I would take that bumper off and have a look with it off. Make sure the bumper support didnt get pushed around. And that trunk is wierd, hard to tell from pics what happend. whats the gap on the other side look like?? did the trunk get rotated clockwise?? Is the hinge whats bent so funky?? Theres a real ghetto shop in El Monte me and alot of the 626 guys used. Just incase your spot changes thier mind BTW, Im lookin for a daily too. I noticed that people are charging the same amount for S13 coupes as stock S14's. That shit makes no sense. So Imma probably save for a S14, drop it on rims and daily it. Screw 3K for a S13 lol!!! __________________ Looking for ziptied vouch.

08-20-2008, 06:06 PM	#19 (permalink)
silpena Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LIVE OAK,CA Age: 21 Posts: 382 Trader Rating: (1)	ooo man. I can tell where u got hit and how. You got clipped huh? the reason the trunk isnt aligned anymore is becuase a: the damage spreaded upward cuasing a bulge at the corner or b: the bumper support moved something structrual to the unibody shifting the trunk upwards. My other guess it looks the who hit you.. hit u at an odd angle they must have been driving something that was lower than ur car. i would take the trunk off also and the rear support bar. get a new one and try it on and make references by measuring how far the mounting bolts are. measure the distance between ur trunk mounting spots on the good side up and down and compare it to the damaged side like this ll. then after that measure it from the driver side to passenger side on the mounting bolts like this =. If You wanna take even more measure ments then do it cross ways like this X. this should help you determin how far you are off and should make aligned way simpler. You can do een more damage by beating the metal past it strecthcable limitby beating it out. You kinda made it harder to fix since u put alot of ripple dents and bulges all over the place. I'm 100% sure they are going to qoute a hella lot more next time you go to get another estimate. You just created alot more work for them to do. beofore it was just some simple pulling with a slide hammer/chain/frame clamps and a hammer to relieve the metal as you pull. Now you got alot of bump work, pulling and maybe some metal shrinking to get it back to place. Damn if i live close to id help you out for free.

08-20-2008, 08:15 PM	#21 (permalink)
ALEXTHESUSPECT* TEAM SUSPECT Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Soul cal!! Age: 30 Posts: 3,780 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: ALEXTHESUSPECT	pay the $400 and continue driving it! __________________ *TEAM SUSPECT** 19x9 19x11 VIP Y33

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DreamN My car gets her wet ;) Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal (818) Mon★ Rep Power: ∞ Age: 23 Posts: 5,020 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: DreamN	Twins Auto Body in Van Nuys will fix your shit up with as little bondo as possible. Mehdi does great body work. 15048 Oxnard St Van Nuys, CA 91411 (818) 908-1629 __________________ For Sale: S13 Coupe Part & Misc. S-Chassis Parts DreamN's Trader Rating

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